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I’ve found a mint piece of software that no Kaiser owner should be without.
It comes with a trial period and u should check it out.
I was looking for some software that would help secure my phone and came across this. http://www.wimp-software.co.uk)
It’s supposedly designed to help you find your phone (yeh right, I aint gonna lose my £500 phone) but me and my mate have had a **** load of fun with it.
It’s pretty cool.
If you read the instructions, you can basically text the phone, but the other person doesn’t get the text message. The software grabs this coded text message and sends you back the gps position of the phone. It also gives you a link to google maps which is great if you’ve got Opera installed on your phone. (Don’t try PIE, it doesn’t work)
I gotta say, I’ve seen a lot of cool software around, but this one is SO cool. I only wish my girlfriend had a Kaiser. I could have so much fun with this.
The only thing I would add to the software though, is to know I was being WIMPED. Maybe a little SMS noise, or the icon changed or something, but I do suppose that it was written for phone theft. I haven’t tried it yet, but it also claims that if you change the SIM card in the phone it’ll SMS you with the number of the new SIM card.
sounds kinda cool!
All I can say is try it out. WIMP yourself lol. It's kinda fun finding out where you are
You gotta check this out - track your phone!
This is a great bit of kit - I just tried this out on my Eten M700 and gave it to my girlfriend whilst she went to the shop. I could text her and see exactly where she was - it sent me back:
Latitude:51°24.740913'N
Longitude:2°29.562757'W
Speed: 0 MPH
Satellites: 9
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.41234855,-2.49271261666667+(PHONE+LOCATION)&t=h&z=19
You've gotta try this out!
Yeh, same here, but mine was only where I was
I really wish my girlfriend had a WM6 phone with GPS.
Big brother, here we come.
lost phone
I can imagine this would be handy if I lost my phone (again). I accidently misplaced my last phone - at £500 a pop you can't do that too often. With this I would have been able to find exactly where it was, even if someone changed the SIM
WIMP and IIWPO on one phone would rock!
That's a brilliant idea.
I'm gonna email them and put a few enhancement requests in.
This is one of the best bits of software I've seen for ages, and I reckon the IIWPO would also benefit the software.
I've done a bit of googling and they must be fairly new as I can't find much on the software, but I'll keep you updated to see if I get a response.
not gonna be possible until the good chaps here work out how to unlock the extrom of the kaiser or something like that I would imagine - it needs to be installed again on hard reset to be of any theft recovery value.
I've seen it done on things like my Athena, so I don't think it will be long till it happens
eventually... yes.
Can't wait for IIWPO for my kaiser, sure I have it insured, but I would have to bring swift, brutal retribution in person on anyone who stole my beloved black beauty.
But being able to track them with it even when they weren't at the home address they typed in would maybe help get it back sooner, and open up ambush possibilities
Very true. I reckon it wont be long till they add it in personally.
I've seen loads of software out there that does SIM change notification, and owner change notification, but not the whoie package, including GPS location.
I think these guys are on to a winner, and I for one am certainly gonna buy this.
What can I say, It's mint!
wow, this is an awesome idea. i plan to try it out once i get my phone for sure. great find.
Brilliant find and brilliant software. I too will be trying this when I get my phone!
Talk about impulse buying.
I just bought it. It costs £10 GBP and you need to provide them with your email address and your IMEI number. The website only accepts paypal (not a problem for me)
The cool thing is as soon as the PayPal payment went through it came back immediately with the unlock code.
What can I say, I'm impatient, but it's great.
Interesting
So... I played around with it and it rocks... I am definately buying this.
Made me realize something kinda scary.... Just follow me for a second here.
The Kaiser has everything.......
1. Cameras on both sides.
2. GPS
3. A Microphone
3. A record of our:
A. Internet browsing History
B. Contact Info
C. Call History
D. Almost all of our personal info... (Depending on how we use it)
4. And... last but not least... and the most important... the ability to be connected to the net all the time...
With all these features... and a program that runs on a personal computer that connects to the phone via the web and can operate all of the above features, but not letting the phone user know the features are in operation.... turns the kaiser into the perfect spy device, or, BIG BROTHER bug.
Think about it... With the right aplication, one could know, where you are, what you look like, what your doing, what your saying, and any personal info you choose to store on your kaiser.
Kinda scary huh????
JB
I definately wish my girlfriend had a kaiser now
Absolutely valid points there JB. I reckon all software developers for mobile phones should check out this site. Then we would end up with the ULTIMATE bit of anti-theft, big brother, all singing and dancing software
alanplum said:
I definately wish my girlfriend had a kaiser now
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You could always buy her one.
alanplum said:
I definately wish my girlfriend had a kaiser now
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no need to worry, she is just fine, im taking good care of her
sounds like good software though, cant wait to get my kaiser and try this out on it.. sounds cheap enough to buy anyway..
Very cool app, I loaded it and gave it a spin. Sent it the code and watched the Kaiser wake, spark up the orange GPS indicator for about 20 seconds and within about 1 minute my other phone received the text message with Lat/Lon and Google Map Link. I only wish there were a way to do this from a PC, the google link would be a lot easier to work with then.
I purchased the prog. Two Issues;
1 - The Wimp web site asked for my IMEI number but their form accepted all but 2 digits of my code. Their site processed my order and emailed me a s/n code which is now not accepted by the prog. I've got an email in to their support folks.
2 - This prog places an icon in the task bar at the bottom of the screen. I don't like any icons there. Is there a way to get rid of that Icon and allow access to the prog thru an Icon/Link placed in "Settings" or "Programs"?
Other than that, I never would have believed that there could be such a clever and small application!
Edit, Tech support sorted the code by re-issuing a new code based on my full IMEI, their site is new and just getting started. Their response was really quick. Also you can enter the app and select "quit", the app will clear from the task bar, BUT, it will still respond to the code request. After a request, the icon will return to the task bar, hmmm a way to know if you've been "Wimped"
Also, I also tried it one time when a fix was not possible. It woke and tried to get a fix for it's allotted time period (3min default setting). After the timeout, it sent a text message telling me that it could not get a fix. So at least you would know that the phone is talking to you!
Hi everyone.
I am new to this forum but have owned several HTC phones in the past and have always been happy with them until now!
After reading through this forum for many hours and signing the tytn II petition I decided to phone HTC UK direct and speak with their customer services department regarding the issues with the camera/Video drivers.
I spoke to a nice chap who told me that they are aware of the issue and need more people to actually phone in and tell them directly about the problem as they do not monitor the forums themselves. He also said that they will be working on a fix but need more proof as they could not replicate the problem with their own tytn II. (So,how can they be aware but not be able to replicate the problem we are all having??)
He also told me that if I where to put video footage of the problem on youtube and phone him back with the link he could forward this as proof to the relevant people............Seems a bit strange, but thats what he told me to do.
The problem is I do not posess a seperate video camera to actually video the tytn II playing video (if that makes any sense). So,if any of you lads or lasses can take some video footage of the problems and let me have the link,I will phone HTC again and get it sorted.
Do you think I was being fobbed off,and does anyone here think that the youtube video would actually be taken seriously by HTC?
Take care all..........Richard
This basically confirms what they told me and some other chaps as well:
1. They need more people calling in. Just signing the petition and discussing the matter on this forum doesn't really bring us any closer
2. They are somewhat aware of the issue but since too few people who buy this primarilly business oriented product do demending video stuff (like emulation, full res video, touch screen gaming, 3d gaming etc) they can't really see the issue on a broad scale. (Which brings us back to 1: they need more people calling support about this).
If someone has the ability to capture a video of playing a 640x480 XviD, playing a touchscreen 2D-game, trying to launch a GL ES game and trying say a demanding emulator and then uploading it to youtube then we could send the link to HTC for "proof".
I could try to capture it using mymobiler but I don't have the appropriate application for vista to do it and I don't have a video camera.
The number I phoned was a standard 0845 number so the cost of the phone call was standard rate,no expensive tech support lines which is good.
Everyone phone their local tech support lines and maybe they will finally get something done.
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Do you think I was being fobbed off,and does anyone here think that the youtube video would actually be taken seriously by HTC?
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Yeah, right. YouTube on my Kaiser... What else, huh? Maybe free porn for everyone too? And how about PROPER BLUETOOTH HEADSET & VOICE DIALLING SUPPORT?!?!
Sorry about that, but I just can't stand all that moaning about video drivers/issues/whatever in business-oriented phone, which was definitely NOT designed to be all-you-can-eat-multimedia-monster. Of course, it would be nice to watch full-quality movies, but what I'd really, I mean *really*, like to have is properly working voice over Bluetooth headset, just like it used to work in Wizard and Hermes, just like it SHOULD work on phones such as Kaiser... This is quite serious bugger, for some even disqualifying Kaiser as a primary phone, but apparently not that many people seem to care about it, anyway.
And please, do not respond to this post - I am not going to subscribe it, so no replies will come into my mailbox. Thanks.
Hey mate.
I am replying anyway
I think you got the wrong end of the stick,not youtube videos on the kaiser,just a video posted on youtube showing the Kaiser faults so they can see for themselves the issues we are having.
I also agree with you on the bluetooth issue but for me the video is more important as I use the phone as a general entertainment device whilst travelling.
Cheers.......Richard
I've started this by doing a video of the extremely reduced performance when using the stylus.
I'll follow it up soon enough with videos of the absent GLES, and generally poor video performance. Please feel free to spread and link this as much as you want. If you want the original .avi-files let me know and I'll send them to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHG377wkQU
For those of you who want to capture your own videos I recommend these applications:
http://www.mymobiler.com/ (For getting the video output of your phone on your computer screen)
http://www.etrusoft.com/screen-recorder/ (For capturing only the active video area of your phone through mymobiler)
Just capture using the default settings and then upload to youtube and presto.
It will even be a lot easier on the eye than a videocam capture.
Youtube is on the Kaiser, pr0n is free to anyone anyways
i couldnt find the number, do you mind posting the whole number so i can call them?
will also make a video tomorrow, i have Call Of Duty, and its appauling the software rendering .. because it has no hardware drivers whatsoever, only cpu =/
also eva_d, if you bought a pc with an 8800GTX, and it couldnt play an old game or even run an emulator that your 5 year old laptop could play, wouldnt you just be asking yourself: "whats the point in paying so much for it?"
Anyone have a USA Number?
Here's another one (extreme case) that shows of the lousy video performance when using directdraw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb8-m5opDA
Since I already have this set up feel free to send me/link/tip about apps that I can capture videos of to show HTC. (For an example, I don't have any GL ES game at the moment)
Also make sure you rate the videos high and comment them etc.
Also if someone can capture a video of the extremely slow camera that would be nice as well.
For some reason it's not possible to capture that image using mymobiler (probably bypassing the normal interfaces for increased performance which makes it even sillier since it's so slow )
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Anyone have a USA Number?
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Check my signature. (Or just htc.com )
That is great, I will contact HTC UK again tomorrow morning and give them the link to the youtube video.
Post up the Uk tel number
i am still shocked that HTC could not have sorted the camera out . its like having a Aston Martin and a 8 track player to listen to music with.
huh... i will make a comparisson with my wizard xD... its really stupid that the wizard supports a simple game as Pocket breakout and the kaiser just sucks in it =/...
[[ makin video x)]]
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Post up the Uk tel number
i am still shocked that HTC could not have sorted the camera out . its like having a Aston Martin and a 8 track player to listen to music with.
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Check my sig, or just to to www.htc.com and click support.
HTC UK technical support number http://www.europe.htc.com/en/support/csbyphone.html
I did not give them my serial number as my TyTN is a Tmobile branded MDa vario III
Since we've already have to people requesting the info:
Here are all HTC telephone numbers:
http://www.htc.com/support/care_hotline.htm
call everyone!! Call!!!
I just called HTC. The lady said she just got off the phone with someone else complaing about the exact same thing... she said it is just a falut of the Tilt. She said HTC will release a ROM update in a month or so but may or may not address the video drivers; she didn't know. She said email support and see if they know.
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I just called HTC. The lady said she just got off the phone with someone else complaing about the exact same thing... she said it is just a falut of the Tilt. She said HTC will release a ROM update in a month or so but may or may not address the video drivers; she didn't know. She said email support and see if they know.
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HTC never replies to e-mails anyway so that won't help, call again and keep pestering them 'til they go get their supervisor or call their second tier support.
I did that twice, fortunately the HTC support doesn't need much pestering to break (my ISP and cellphone operator needs constant bombardment for 10 minutes straight before they connect me to a supervisor or really go away and try to find anything out with their colleagues)
htcwiki.com
I just got off the phone with US Tech Support. No help at all. All he said was to go to http://www.htcwiki.com/ and state the issue there.
I just purchased a Tilt last week. I did not know about all the issues with slowness and lack of video drivers till after I brought it home. After reading through this forum I have determined that I should probably take advantage of AT&T's 30 day return policy and return this phone.
The problem is I do not know what the alternative from AT&T is. My new employer is requiring that I have a PDA/smartphone that supports MS activesync. So that eliminates the iphone. What is the best alternative from AT&T? Treo? Moto Q?
Thanks for the help.
I have had my TyTN II for two months now.
I have NO issues with slowness or anything else. I play full feature movies, games and many apps and it is definitely much faster than my iMate KJam (Wizard).
My advice is keep it and enjoy it.
There are many posts here that don't slate the device.
Some people want live feeds from Mars etc.
I can honestly tell you that I am very very happy with mine, but then again I don't fix things that aren't broke.
It is the best business tool on the market at present IMHO, and I did lots of research before buying the TyTN II.
Yes please take advantage of the 30 day return policy by taking 30 days to get to know the phone.
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I just purchased a Tilt last week. I did not know about all the issues with slowness and lack of video drivers till after I brought it home. After reading through this forum I have determined that I should probably take advantage of AT&T's 30 day return policy and return this phone.
The problem is I do not know what the alternative from AT&T is. My new employer is requiring that I have a PDA/smartphone that supports MS activesync. So that eliminates the iphone. What is the best alternative from AT&T? Treo? Moto Q?
Thanks for the help.
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My brother once told me of the phenomenon of being awakened to negativity of something while being completely ignorant of it before. in other words, from the way it sounds, you did not really notice all the "bad things" associated with the product until someone told you of them.
I sometimes fall into the same trap. I got my phone right around when it was released, and I was completely blown away by it. I've never really had a pda phone before and it was just amazing for me. I then read all the negative comments about it then got worried and wanted to blindly replace it for the "perfect device".
I know realize that it doesn't exist and most likely, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. play with the phone and if you are happy with it, keep it regardless of what other people say is wrong with it.
BTW, you most likely won't get helpful advise about what other phone to get on a fanboy forum about the product you want to get rid of...
just my 2 cents
Oh this is a good one. I'm sure you won't have any performance problems with this one.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...y+Ericsson+Z310a+-+Jet+Black&q_sku=sku1020097
Integrated VGA Camera
Bluetooth® wireless capable
Unique external hidden display
Colored light effects for caller ID
Polyphonic MIDI and MP3 ringtones
Multimedia messaging - Send text, photos, and sounds
Instant messaging - AIM®, Yahoo!®, and MSN®
Day and evening themes change at preset times
Illuminated keypad with color light effects
Download ringtones, games, and graphics
Vibrating alert, calendar and calculator
High-speed EDGE capabilities
Internet and email capable
Tri-band world phone
Superb battery life
Preloaded games
Rated for Hearing Aids: M3
Thats the lick
It's all about gamez and ringerz
You will also read that some of us with the Tilt do not notice the issues you are speaking about. I don't feel that my Tilt's driver issues affect what I use it for. I don't watch movies all day long and play games with it, if I did I might change my tune...
No matter what, it's a step up from my 8525!
I looked through AT&T's VAST selection of PDA/smartphones and read the reviews there and elsewhere, and came to the conclusion that the Tilt would do what I needed. Mostly Office functions and what not. The Wifi was another major reason. I didn't get the phone for it's multimedia reasons.
IMO, stick with the Tilt, and if you want to watch movies, get a portable DVD player.
man I stream movies and watch them on the SD. It all works well enough for me. I just think the damn thing could run a bit smoother.
A lot of these posts are niggly things and not majors.
I see both sides and whilst this is slower than my Wizard for screen orientation flips, its got GPS built in. Big win immediately.
That alone wins for me, and ok, some things are slightly longer but let's face it, these are PDA's with phone functions, not phones with PDA functions (in which case look at s730 from HTC as an alternative).
Joe
ChumleyEX said:
Yes please take advantage of the 30 day return policy by taking 30 days to get to know the phone.
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This sounds like the best advice to me...
Don't flash a new rom or hard-spl (in case you want to return the phone - instead try as many programs, games, videos etc over the next week or 3 and see if the phone works ok for you - stress it a bit. If everything works ok and you want to keep the phone then you WILL get better performance from a cooked rom - if not then you've lost nothing except for a bit of time.
FWIW, I love my Kaiser - a few niggles but I know my way round them - I'm not going to change and will probably upgrade to Kaiser 2 or whatever in the future.
Here's the thing... there is no perfect phone on the market!
If you visit the forums for any phone on the market, you'll find things ranging from minor nits to severe bugs.
The best thing you can do is ask yourself if the issues of a particular phone are things you can deal with. Some are fixable with utility programs (tweaks) and some need new drivers. Some just plain won't ever be fixed in the lifetime of the phone.
What's a severe limitation to some, is not an issue to others. For me, the video driver issue isn't a problem, since I don't use my Tilt that way. But, for others, it's a show-stopper.
So, yes... do your research (preferably before buying the phone) and use your new phone for everything you can think of during the trial period. Ask yourself what your requirements for the phone are, and if you can live with whatever limitations/issues it comes with.
...have your Diamond drop out of your pocket in a restaurant.
My Diamond was stolen today. We have the guy who found it on camera, and turns out he gave it back to the guy behind the cash register, who then, most likely, took it home with him. As the footage isn't sharp enough to absolutely say he did it, we couldn't search him, and so he went home with what most likely is my months' salary.
Poor me. Time to get a new one, I guess. Bye, bye, month of work.
Thats why I have a phone insurance.
You need www.wimp-software.co.uk or Ultimate Theft Alert.
Oh, and a baseball bat. lol
Yep W.I.M.P. and the next time should be fun.
tha_rami said:
...have your Diamond drop out of your pocket in a restaurant.
My Diamond was stolen today. We have the guy who found it on camera, and turns out he gave it back to the guy behind the cash register, who then, most likely, took it home with him. As the footage isn't sharp enough to absolutely say he did it, we couldn't search him, and so he went home with what most likely is my months' salary.
Poor me. Time to get a new one, I guess. Bye, bye, month of work.
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Hey man if life taught me something is that what comes around goes around the asshole that stole your phone is gonna get hit by Karma.
Im sure this jerk probably doesent even know what the hell it is.
Anyhow that sucks dude!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
sounds great also
How does WIMP work exactly?
What triggers the event to send SMS with GPS co-ordinates? Also what if there isn't GPS reception?
There is also Sprite Terminator http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/?pid=195#
They have discount offer when upgrading (if needed) the Sprite Backup, which is included on the Diamond Appliacation disk (could be region specified).
to avoid these situations:
i cooked mjustice into my ROM
very simple and easy job to cook in
the software also simple and it is free...
you can also install it but a hard reset deletes it. so go cooking..
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice
Sorry to hear that Rami.
I guess I should think about cooking a anti theft tool in my rom as well. Any tutorials on this avaible?
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How does WIMP work exactly?
What triggers the event to send SMS with GPS co-ordinates? Also what if there isn't GPS reception?
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Once wimp is installed, you (or anyone) can send an sms to the phone with your password and the phone then tries to get a GPS fix and then texts back not only with the co-ordinates, but also a hyperlink to google maps!
If it can't get a fix within a set time (you can set this period) then it texts you back to say this. I'm not sure if it keeps trying, but I think you have to send another text later if you get no fix from the first attempt. None of this is shown or alerted on the phone - but the diamond GPS getting hot may give it away!
It's also good if want to find out where someone is - a child, elderly relative etc. I do some late night call out work, and have given the password to a few people just in case.
Getting my new Diamond today. Still a major bummer.
What if someone replaces the SIM-card, the phone would have a different number, right? So how would I SMS it?
at least this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203 is also triggered by SIM-change (have not tried it though)
the most thing I;m concerned about: more and more people are beginning to know how to flash a new ROM...one's a new ROM is installed, you can really say bey bey to your phone.
About the SIM change: when changed, All anti-theft programs will sent you the new number of the sim to a predefined cellphonenumber you have set.
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Getting my new Diamond today. Still a major bummer.
What if someone replaces the SIM-card, the phone would have a different number, right? So how would I SMS it?
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You set it up to automatically text your chosen number when a SIM is changed. You then have the thief's new number to text
It’s been a bitter sweet journey for me and my tilt over the last year. We've been through many different ROMs many different Mods, and many different apps. We've spent hundreds of hours on this board searching for the newest and greatest tricks a tools we've even spent some times actually being productive. But 2 weeks ago we went our separate ways. In a spat of extreme frustration I renewed my contract with ma bell and enslaved myself to the blue and orange for another 2 years and purchased an iPhone.
While my Tilt could do just about anything I wanted it to do it could do none of it well or consistently. My #1 biggest frustration with the Tilt which ended up being the nail in the coffin was how windows mobile dealt with networking. It never worked reliably moving form edge to wifi and back was painful with apps needing to be restarted an occasionally the phone needing rebooted. Outlook would stop syncing with exchange for days at a time then after a reboot everything would be fine. It was never as simple as pick up the phone and surf the web or pick up the phone and check your email. A very close second is SPEED I had dumb phones 10 years ago that i could pick up and make a call with quicker than the tilt. The windows mobile interface is just not designed for hand held use. Even with the stylus it is extremely frustrating to navigate.
The apps I used most on the Tilt were as follows:
1. Push Exchange/Outlook for Calendar email and contacts <-- This is a must for any device that i will have now or in the future.
2. Beyond Pod for Podcasts <-- I have a long commute and podcasts are a godsend.
3. Palringo <---wonderful app but could not leave it open because of the battery drain
4. Kinoma Freeplay <-- the best media player for WINMO hands down they got a lot of stuff right I was all set to purchase the full version when 3g came to our area but still no 3G an now no Tilt
5. Windows remote desktop client <--- very handy worked well even over edge
6. Opera Mini <-- excellent browser especially for edge i dont thing there is anything that can beat it on edge. I would love to have seen a native version of opera mini because the JVM's (I tried them all) for WM suck I hate to open an application just to open an application yea there were some tricks and shortcuts but nothing completely seamless.
7. Gremote<-- excellent for controlling an HTPC or from the couch. This app paired with a capacitive touch screen would be amazing. Kudos to the author on this simple elegant app.
8. The Phone <-- The tilt was not a good phone. making a phone call to someone not in your address book was extremely painful however if the person is in your address book the smart dialer worked very well. I went through multiple dialer on multiple roms none of them worked well
Apps I used occasionally
1. ICS for tethering via usb <--- Great when it works active sync must be installed on the computer that you want to tether (for usb atleast).
2. WMwifirouter -- for when ICS failed <--- Must be plugged into the wall this program drains the battery faster than anything I have ever seen however it works very well
3. kevtris & Bubble Breaker <-- good to pass the time
4. Alarm clock <--- works as advertised
Now on to the iPhone. I have not Jail broken the iPhone yet. I'm not sure that I need to.
I'll start out with what I don't like
1. No background tasks <-- this reminds me of the days with my Palm IIIc
2. Running in the back ground is key to any instant messenger app so using Palringo on the iPhone is almost worthless
3. most apps do not exit gracefully or save state when you exit especially when you exit unexpectedly like when answering a call.
4. I hate the slide to unlock. You’re not going to accidentally dial someone with a capacitive screen when it’s in your pocket. It’s an unnecessary extra step
5. Lack of configuration options <-- I never thought I’d say this but this might be a blessing in disguise.
6. Lack of physical keyboard. It’s by far the best onscreen keyboard I’ve ever used but still not as good as the worst physical keyboard I have ever used.
7. Lack of a user exposed file I like to know where my files are and how to get to them. This hasn’t been a problem so far but I would feel better being able to browse a file system
That's really about all that I don't like about the iPhone here is what I like
1. Speed Speed Speed compared to my Tilt this thing is fast opening and closing most apps take about a second to open compared to 3 to 10 on my tilt depending on which app I open.
2. The display and capacitive touch screen together are both beautiful and extremely responsive
3. Visual Voice mail <-- love it I tried a bunch of visual voicemail apps for the tilt none worked as well as this. not making a call to check voice mail is great
4. The dialer <-- Its simple and it works when I dial a phone number all 10 digits show up as opposed to the tilt where I don’t think I ever dialed a 10 digit number correctly on the first try. I do miss the smart dialing from the tile though.
5. Networking <-- Other than problems with a hidden SSID's networking is smooth and transparent never had a problem switching from wifi to edge leaving WIFI on all day does not kill the battery haven’t had a problem with one app being able to access the internet while another cant
6. Battery <--- I can get through the whole day with a single charge on my iPhone I've even watched a half hour of streaming video over wifi at the end of the day before i was warned about a low battery. On my tilt if I used wifi or played back any kind of media or had Palringo open I needed to charge my Tilt before I got home in the evening.
I have yet to sync the phone with iTunes I haven't really found a need to yet. Although i probably will soon because there is a firmware update available
The apps I use
1. RSS Player <-- Great for downloading podcasts I can’t really compare it to how iTunes handles podcasts… I haven’t figured out how the iPod app handles audio playback especially in cases when you get a phone call while playing something. I will assume that the Apple apps have the power to run in the background
2. Orb Live <--- the 9.99 app was worth every penny it’s a sling box killer in I have access to my entire music collection my cable tv and recorded programs it works great and the video play back is great on the iPhone's screen
3. RDP lite <--- Simple RDP client it works well I am not limited to 640x480 as on the tilt it works more like the WM version of the Citrix Client
4. Stanza<--- I like ebooks I can read ebooks with this I actually prefer MS reader on the WM platform I have a trusty old Axim X5 with PPC 2002 on which I do a lot of reading at night. I can’t imagine buying a kindle and not being able to read in the dark on a side note the X5 has great rubber grips on the side and the buttons are in just the right place for page turns. you can probably pick one of these up for 10 bucks on eBay and have a great ebook reader for your night stand. While legitimate books are harder to find for MS reader most publishers produce versions of their books in the .lit format they are usually more expensive than kindle books but you'd have to buy a lot of books to make up for the price of the kindle.
I’ve spent hours on these forums tweaking and tinkering with my Tilt It was fun, I learned a lot but now I am done. Anybody else make the switch? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on what you used on WM that you don’t have on the iPhone or what you have on the iPhone that you didn’t have on WM.
I might make the same move someday. I'm really on the fence as to whether I want to give WM another chance and get the Touch Pro 2, or just bail for the iPhone's snappy OS (background apps and openness be damned).
I can't stand how bad the Tilt is (and, I assume WM6 in general) at moving between WiFi and cellular data. I have to forcefully close Outlook since it always wants to stick to whichever method it first used. Does it do that for everyone, or just because I'm using IMAP?
It's going to be a tough choice this fall between the Touch Pro 2 and, presumably, an updated iPhone. I think I'm just very soured on WM. The resolution of the Pro2 and the keyboard have huge appeal to me. If Apple ups the resolution, I think I'll be sold on them, since their touchscreen is a lot more accurate for typing the I had even though possible.
I'm getting ready to ditch the Tilt as well. Too slow, hesitant, and mostly Windows related problems. Had to do a hard-reset which didn't work as the keys were frozen. Ended up flashing another ROM once I got past the Serial port in the Red-Green-White windows and it said USB.
I cannot believe even Microsoft has no news group on their Windows Mobile software. Probably would scare other manufacturers off if they did. Even the buggy ActiveSync as well.
I had a couple of Nokias with Symbian OS and they ran fine. Never hesitated at all or froze requiring a reset. And their volume was LOUD compared to the HTC.
The Tilt is a gadget boy's toy, but it really is buggy.
Maybe the Nokia N96 next. They offered on their website a trade-in of $84 for the old Tilt.
Mack
The network issues were the nail in the coffin for me. the speed problems and quick battery drain were a close second. So far every time I open up Safari my web pages load no pop ups telling me how its now trying to "dial" the network the seamless transition between wifi and GPRS lets me use the device and not think about which network I'm on. With the Tilt if I left the wifi on battery was dead by noon and I always had to manually put my Tilt to sleep because there was always some app that would keep it awake with the back light burning draining my battery.
This is great, 3 people with a total of 46 posts coming on the Kaiser forum to tell us how much they hate the Kaiser and love the iPhone,I personally could care less what you think and don't want to hear it.
We can't say goodbye if you don't actually LEAVE ................. Bye , farewell, au revoir, have you left yet ?
Just so you know where to go, here are a bunch of other people enjoying their new phone
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=245
OK everyone, I have had both the tilt and Iphone. I have had my tilt since the begining and I have had a blast tweaking it into my personal reflection of my persona. i had an opportunity to get an Iphone through my work and i almost broke it with frustration. not only that it ask for $40 to connect and have internest access but I can't find my files anywhere where it is stored. I am a heavy Excel user and I had trouble with opening spreadsheets on outlook atachments. It took me a long time just to text a simple sentence since i have fat fingers. My tilt on the otherhand, I use both of my thumbs for texting and composing emails through outlook and it just boggles me that the iphone can be used by busy professionals. I still enjoy my tilt everyday. My favorite application is SLingbox, Avantgo, Tomtom, and about 50 games stored in my Micro 16g card. I have 18 of my favorite DVD movies stored and if you hook it up in your car through the headphone jack, you can watch and entertain your children on long trips. I love the tilt until some other HTC device replaces it.
You'll likely be back
I left my tilt...wanted something more finger-friendly, with a more touch-responsive (I.E. capacitive) screen. I opted for the Tmobile G1 using Android. The phone is gorgeous, the widescreen fabulous, trackball surprisingly useful, and the OS beautiful. I was blown away....and then reality set in.
The G1 is nearly useless without an internet connection, and I don't use a data plan, just wifi. The Android OS is indeed lovely, but there are only a handful of really useful programs. The tie-in with Google is worse than anything Microsoft ever crammed down your throat. 75% of video formats just don't work. I guess the bottom line is: crude. The applications are crude, the OS lacks so much as a file manager (tho 3rd party ones are available), and if you want to do anything vaguely resembling work, you are in the WRONG place.
Like a beautiful woman who's too dumb to use a toilet.
The G1 is up on ebay, and a new Tilt will be mailed to me tomorrow.
Hello Tilt
I wanted to get a iPhone and found some fundamental flaws. For a start, do you know that you can't do something as simple as "Cut & Paste"?
No removable battery. Try go on a trip for >5 hours and you know what you miss.
... a lot more.....
so, I bought myself a Tilt.
Hehehehe, any of you TyTN II/Tilt haters can send me your phones. I will gladly ship you a self addressed stamped BOX to dump your miserable horrible phone into, I will give it a proper pyrotechnic destruction (just trust me on that).
PM me or post here if you want a box sent to you for disposal of your terrible miserable lousy TyTN II/Tilt.
*grins*
I understand the fustration, my TyTNII have a love hate relationship, when it is running well I love it, even though the Touch Pro is out I won't upgrade. When it is slow and unresponsive I've looked at other phones and nothing does what this phone can do for the price.
I know people with Iphones and some are happy others are fustrated so YMMV.
I suggest jailbreaking and get an app from cydia called backgrounder it allows apps to run in the background which I think will be a solution to you IM apps!!
lol
denco7 said:
This is great, 3 people with a total of 46 posts coming on the Kaiser forum to tell us how much they hate the Kaiser and love the iPhone,I personally could care less what you think and don't what to hear it.
We can't say goodbye if you don't actually LEAVE ................. Bye , farewell, au revoir, have you left yet ?
Just so you know where to go, here are a bunch of other people enjoying their new phone
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=245
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best post of the century?
Awww... the link actually worked
Denko7,
I was truly expecting to get rickrolled when I clicked on your link, only to find that i was inundated with actual Iphone stuff. For those of you who are confused about rickrolling someone (or a forum) just click the below link:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling
replacement of Kaiser
i don't feel....there is any phone on the market now that makes me wants to makes a jump from kaiser,
touch pro.....nah...
touchHD...tsk...still not good enough, sure will misss the keyboard
X1...makes me wanna laugh at Sony ericsson
coming:
N97...symbian platform still lack the variety compare to winmo
touchpro2...yawn!! (just a quick make up over TP1)
OmniaHD...maybe if they include hardware keyboard i'll think over
seems to me no one cares to just make an all rounder(with useability and reliability in mind) that dominates the market...
they just keep on producing tons of new models and incorporating flaws in them intentionally and kinda just to force the consumer into it
and people yelling "yay, consumers right"
denco7 said:
This is great, 3 people with a total of 46 posts coming on the Kaiser forum to tell us how much they hate the Kaiser and love the iPhone,I personally could care less what you think and don't want to hear it.
We can't say goodbye if you don't actually LEAVE ................. Bye , farewell, au revoir, have you left yet ?
Just so you know where to go, here are a bunch of other people enjoying their new phone
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=245
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Amen. I'm willing to hear negative opinions from someone who made an effort to use their phone. Not from someone who never tried to do anything with it
I'm as picky as they come, and I'm happy with my tilt. It takes some effort, but the roms that are out there now are ready to go after a flash. I'm waiting for a MUCH better phone before I leap. And honestly, my tilt will go to another family member.
PS: Once that guy gets his Iphone, we should totally try to MMS him..... ;-)
I like the Tilt but...
.. I didn't foresee having to spend so much time tweaking and fixing it. What's more, the jog wheel stopped functioning in 9 months (and I am a REAL careful user, didn't drop it even once), the screen stopped responding 3 months later, and oh, Activesync has been ruining my contacts and schedules databases regularly to the point I simply stopped sync'ing, which is a pity.
I want a smart phone for productivity. That's the bottom line. While I enjoy tinkering around with it, being a software engineer myself, I'd rather not have to spend quite so much time on dealing with phone or WM's issues.
My lowly Nokia 7110 allowed me to be far more productive.
WMNovice said:
.. I didn't foresee having to spend so much time tweaking and fixing it. What's more, the jog wheel stopped functioning in 9 months (and I am a REAL careful user, didn't drop it even once), the screen stopped responding 3 months later, and oh, Activesync has been ruining my contacts and schedules databases regularly to the point I simply stopped sync'ing, which is a pity.
I want a smart phone for productivity. That's the bottom line. While I enjoy tinkering around with it, being a software engineer myself, I'd rather not have to spend quite so much time on dealing with phone or WM's issues.
My lowly Nokia 7110 allowed me to be far more productive.
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I hate to tell you this, but the problems you describe above are due to user error... and probably it is the fact you are a software engineer in a world OTHER THAN Windows Mobile.
However, your comments about the phone being for productivitiy... you're right on! I don't care how perfect something is, if it doesn't work for _ME_, I'm not going to keep working it!
For people who enjoy tinkering
I enjoy tinkering with software as much as anyone else. But not on something as vital for business as a smart phone. And the problems I've described are not due to user error, but to a poorly designed and counter-intuitive Windows Mobile OS.
And clearly, WM-based phones, HTC or otherwise, have a lot of issues that serious users and seekers of productivity should be concerned about.
Try using Active Sync on WM 6.0 sensibly, for one. If you're not careful, your entire database of contacts and calendars can be wiped out by this treacherous piece of junk that goes under the name of software.
For those of you who spend an inordinate amount of time installing the latest ROM and checking out the latest "freeware", think about it: Is it worth spending so much time on a phone that could have been used productively elsewhere?
WMNovice said:
I enjoy tinkering with software as much as anyone else. But not on something as vital for business as a smart phone. And the problems I've described are not due to user error, but to a poorly designed and counter-intuitive Windows Mobile OS.
And clearly, WM-based phones, HTC or otherwise, have a lot of issues that serious users and seekers of productivity should be concerned about.
Try using Active Sync on WM 6.0 sensibly, for one. If you're not careful, your entire database of contacts and calendars can be wiped out by this treacherous piece of junk that goes under the name of software.
For those of you who spend an inordinate amount of time installing the latest ROM and checking out the latest "freeware", think about it: Is it worth spending so much time on a phone that could have been used productively elsewhere?
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HEhehehe, maybe the 'productivity' is entertainment in making something work? I for one, spent 60 minutes downloading (meaning, I spent 10 seconds clicking 'Download' and picking where to put it, then 59 minutes doing other things till it popped up saying it was done), then about 5 minutes flashing. Then, about 10 minutes putting my SIM back in, re-entering data connection stuff, and re-syncing my contacts. that was it, and I was up and running with a "for me" bug free PDA v17 ROM...
Inordinate is a rather subjective term... inordinate for my grandfather is picking the phone up in the first place... inordinate for me is spending more than one night of sleep setting it up... HEhehehe
Bottom line, to each his own... and for you, you don't like WinMo...
So, what DO you like? What other OS is giving you ANY business productivity other than making phone calls, sending text messages, and composing e-mail? Any mobile phone will do those things, what are you saying you are missing for productivity in the WM world that you get from any other? (honest question, I simply don't know and refuse to say you can't, unless you can prove to me you can't)
So, I'll gladly send you a SASE to send me your 'dead' Tilt... let me know!
Every time I think I want to switch phones, I go look at all the options from AT&T and Verizon on phonescoop and the bottom line is this:
Touch screen - check
MiniUSB connection instead of some shoddy input that ends up breaking after a month - check
Windows Mobile so I can configure it exactly how I want - check
Qwerty keyboard that isn't just on screen - check
I have yet to find another phone that meets all these and is anywhere near better than the Kaiser/Tilt. My sister has the iPhone and it's crap IMO. My best friend has the Voyager and it's worse than that! Another has the ENV2 which is actually nice if you don't care to ever do any configuring of software because there's no WM and the Verizon interface is so limited.
So there. Have fun with all your subpar phones. I'll stay with mine.