Let's say "Official"... - Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading

Hi everyone! I recently bought a T-mo Wing on ebay and as it's my first pda phone I did exactly the same every newbie does: I've messed things up.
The first problem was that I started to download and install every app I thought I would use. Soon realized that IN FACT I would use 10% of all that ans started uninstalling things. Till there, I was good, but then I found pocket mechanic pro and its "registry tweaker & cleanup" killed my voice command and made the phone loop forever on bootup unless I remove the memory card. Besides, I have memory shortage problems and lots of things I will never use like myFaves, t-zones, tons of icons and silly images .... So my questions are ....Is there any T-mo "official" ROM with all the T-mo stuff removed?? I don't have problems with the rest of the apps and bricking the phone is not an option: I'm latin american!! used wing was really a financial effort for me!! The second question would be: Is there any way to restore the registry keys that pocket mechanic erased?? I know the answers might have been already posted but I've been browsing the forums for about 6 hours with no success ..... Can anyone help me on this??
Thanks
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alvarete62 said:
Hi everyone! I recently bought a T-mo Wing on ebay and as it's my first pda phone I did exactly the same every newbie does: I've messed things up.
The first problem was that I started to download and install every app I thought I would use. Soon realized that IN FACT I would use 10% of all that ans started uninstalling things. Till there, I was good, but then I found pocket mechanic pro and its "registry tweaker & cleanup" killed my voice command and made the phone loop forever on bootup unless I remove the memory card. Besides, I have memory shortage problems and lots of things I will never use like myFaves, t-zones, tons of icons and silly images .... So my questions are ....Is there any T-mo "official" ROM with all the T-mo stuff removed?? I don't have problems with the rest of the apps and bricking the phone is not an option: I'm latin american!! used wing was really a financial effort for me!! The second question would be: Is there any way to restore the registry keys that pocket mechanic erased?? I know the answers might have been already posted but I've been browsing the forums for about 6 hours with no success ..... Can anyone help me on this??
Thanks
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The easiest way to go back is to do a hard reset. (Hold the two softkeys and press the soft reset key.) As far as "official" ROM, there isn't, but there are a lot of third party ROMs. If you hardSPL your phone (which runs the slight risk of bricking your phone) then you brick-PROOF your phone.

Wow!! I can't believe you ...I mean YOU, took som time to answer my post!! I read lots of stuff here made by you. Thanks man! I'm really honored.
The thing is that if I hard reset my wing all the T-mo stuff will be there again, and some of it is non removable. There are lots of pictures and icons that I won't ever use. What if I take the latest T-mo ROM and delete all that without modifying anything else?? I mean, no t-zones, no my faves and no TONS of avatar pictures.... would that be possible?? Again, thanks for answering

alvarete62 said:
Wow!! I can't believe you ...I mean YOU, took som time to answer my post!! I read lots of stuff here made by you. Thanks man! I'm really honored.
The thing is that if I hard reset my wing all the T-mo stuff will be there again, and some of it is non removable. There are lots of pictures and icons that I won't ever use. What if I take the latest T-mo ROM and delete all that without modifying anything else?? I mean, no t-zones, no my faves and no TONS of avatar pictures.... would that be possible?? Again, thanks for answering
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lol. Thanks for thinking so highly of me.
It's possible, you have to dump the ROM and then recook it, though.
You could also wait for my SuperJustKitchen and build your own custom ROM. ^_^ But either way, you HAVE to HardSPL. There are no ROMs that can be flashed with the stock SPL other than the stock one.

That's exactly what I'm going to do!! I'll wait for your SuperJustKitchen and remove all unneeded stuff from the latest official T-mo Rom. In the meantime, I will try to recover my voice command without hard resetting just for fun. I really don't need it because my spoken english is horrible and by the time it worked, almost never recognized what I said . Anyway, it really annoys me that a supposed registry cleanup made by pocket mechanic messed up the system that way. The Wizcode forum has a solution that actually works just for the full version of MVC. Nor upgrade nor OEM are fixed by that "patch". I would like to know if there's any way to decompile it and make the corrections manually. It's supposed to restore some deleted registry keys but I couldn't find wich ones ....Would that be possible??

If it's a cab, it can turned into a OEM/EXT package which lets you see the registry keys by themselves.

Sorry for the delay....
Hi again! It was not a .CAB .... It was a [email protected] .exe file. Tried to open with winRAR and 7zip but with no success. Finally i found the dump of the .reg file that voice command uses. I was not able to import it (there are some path errors and I know NOTHING about reg scripting), so i had to write all the keys and values manually. It worked!!!! After a soft reset voice command was there! After that I disabled it because my english sucks and VC could not understand what i said ..... but still works!! Still waiting for your kitchen to make a new ROM for my wing .... Thanks again for taking the time to answer me ...

I don't know well, but...
Maybe you can have good luck in hard-resetting and do not enter into customization, but soft-resetting.
Another way is going into Extended ROM and analizing the .cab files there, and erasing some of them (better if you save them into another place).
Please wait till someone "better than me" will confirm those data I told.
On the other way, if you don't like T-Mo ROMs the best you can do is Hard-SPL and flashing a new radio+ROM. You by yourself realized Ivan has good ROM's. And the one I'm using now is also good.

Related

HELP!

How safe are they?
will they brick my phone?
I'm looking for the nice looking dialer screen the one that covers the screen with nice numbers and cyan and black background.
Well as you see this is the first time im using a smartphone.
I think i will have to read a whole noobie guide explaining everything and not just the basics.
Thank you very much.
I'm loving the Tilt a lot.
cabs
cabs are installer files similar setup files on a pc (very overly simplified). most cabs can be successfully by going to settings-system-remove programs so you can try it out and remove it if you don't like it.
if you have the right installer/cab files for your particular device (ppc, smartphones don't have touch screens) you will not brick your device.
you will not brick your device if you first HardSPL (see sticky) and use the files Dutty has collected and has available.
READ THE WIKI FIRST - most general questions can be answered by reading it.
Harkadenn said:
How safe are they?
will they brick my phone?
I'm looking for the nice looking dialer screen the one that covers the screen with nice numbers and cyan and black background.
Well as you see this is the first time im using a smartphone.
I think i will have to read a whole noobie guide explaining everything and not just the basics.
Thank you very much.
I'm loving the Tilt a lot.
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A partial answer to your questions:
Regarding cab files. In general anything you find here will be relatively safe. BUT things do occassionally go wrong and indeed some cabs can change settings and change the behaviour of other applications in a way you do not like. For this reason you should (I would say MUST) use a good full backup application. I use SPB Backup but you might prefer Sprite. If you do a full backup before installing Cabs then you can always restore the backup if things go wrong. (It's also good practice anyway in case of fatal crashes or corruption)
The Kaiser is a PPC not a Smartphone (It's better he said controversially). There are differences, and indeed when googling for cabs and programmes you should go for the PPC (ARM) versions not the Smartphone versions.
Regarding dialer skins - use the search button or go to the "Search XDA-Dev using Google" sticky post for other search possibilities.
Don't forget to read the Wiki - linked on the brown bar near the top of the screen.
Also don't forget that most apps and reg changes that apply to WM6 will apply well to the Kaiser. So if you search and find a WM6 cab or such on a forum for another device - it will likely be ok to install ok on your Kaiser. (But don't forget my backup suggestion above!)
Cheers
Mike
PS Welcome on-board, enjoy
EDIT: I see Apposite beat me to some of the above!!
Thanks very much.
Well a thing is I don;t know how to do backups.
I also tried downloading the colored kyeboard cab, but it didn't worked.
Anyways thanks again.
I'll be posting often
i always backup with spb backup,
it's quite good and i'm very satisfied.
I just started reading the Wiki
Fast question
What does flash do?
and from your last replay, Spb? backup
yes of course spb backup
No no I meant what is the SPB backup?
What it does/stand for, and how do i get it?
Messenger/AOL/Yahoo MSN
Every time I try to connect to any of this, It loads for a long times but never connects me.
Am I loosing something?
Harkadenn said:
No no I meant what is the SPB backup?
What it does/stand for, and how do i get it?
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Hello,
Go to the Spb Software House website site. Just google it and then you will find Spb Backup. I am new to the pocket pc world myself but try not to get in a hurry and install all the cool stuff (cabs) on this website. Make sure you understand what these programs are before installing. I made that mistake and after HOURS of reading and installing... I had to do a hard reset.
For backups I use Sprite, but will probably one day use Spb Backup as I use three of there products and all are GREAT! While on their website check out Spb Pocket Plus... It's AWESOME, IMHO
Many thanks for the help.
Another battery thread...
I know i know... a millions of threads asking issues and stuff about the battery.
Believe me, I have been looking deep into this site for battery threads but non have helped me.
I just want to know what is the best solution for my battery to last more than a day?
This phone drains it way to fast.
Is there any battery that can last a lot longer for this phone so I can order?
Thanks...
Harkadenn said:
I know i know... a millions of threads asking issues and stuff about the battery.
Believe me, I have been looking deep into this site for battery threads but non have helped me.
I just want to know what is the best solution for my battery to last more than a day?
This phone drains it way to fast.
Is there any battery that can last a lot longer for this phone so I can order?
Thanks...
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It made a huge difference for me when I installed the 10 button comm manager and turn off 3G during the day. I only turn it on when I'm using the web browser or downloading something. Battery now lasts 2x as long.
what the 10 Button manager does?
I already shut the 3g and wi-fi.
What is this cab called?
http://i12.tinypic.com/4zu14xe
Is the dialing screen the one im looking for.
Third Picture on the top from left to right.
Also where do i get it?
is it here?
http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
its the file i am attaching. reference this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225&highlight=retouched
I think the dialer is what your looking for.
-McMex
YEAH! it worked! finally the dialer lol!
Thanks a lot!
Hey I have another question...
I already downloaded this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350700
But I'm afraid something happens to my Tilt, and I don't know how to run flashes and stuff.
I downloaded a backup SPB but dont know how to use it.
The main reason I downloaded that big rom is because I just read somewhere around this forums that it's the best bettery saver rom ever.
Help...
Im learning abit more, just downloaded the 10 com mannager and disabled the same as you did.
Hope this helps.
You need to CID unlock to put that rom on your tilt.

New user

Hey y'all, I'd just thought I'd introduce myself to the Kaiser world seeing as I'm going to be spending a lot of time here. I'm a freshman at Notre Dame, and needed (..wanted) a smart phone to help me organize this mass of everything happening around me. Being the technology geek I am, I looked quite a bit into it and decided that the "Tilt" was far superior to my dad's heralded and suggested iPhone (plus I kinda loathe Apple. So eh. lol) Anyway, I received my Tilt as a gift last night, and realized that it came bloated with AT&T's crap and didn't look like the same home screen I saw on HTC's website. After spending more than a couple of hours here, I was successful in blindly following different instructions I found in at least 3 different threads to flash the Dutty's HTC ROM to my Kaiser, and I absolutely love it. Problem is though, I have no idea what hell is going on here. I don't know what a .RUU even is, and even though a .CAB was easy to figure out, I have no idea where to put them on phone. And before I get lambasted with the mantra of "use the searchbar" venerated by web forum's loyal users, I'd like to point out that if you take a step back, look at all of this info on here, and pretend you don't understand any of it, it's pretty damn hard to decipher this stuff. So if you guys know of any "Pocket PC New Users" guide written by knowledgable ppl on the web, and any XDA-Beginner guides or anything, please point them in my direction. I'm more than happy to read. However, reading 33 forum pages to figure out how to do 8 lines of instructions for one thing is extremely time consuming, cumbersome, and not that helpful. So again, it's nice to meet you all, and maybe y'all could help point me out in the right direction.
---Holy crap, that's a lot of text. Basically, hey y'all, nice to meet you, and do you think you could help out a newb who's able and willing to learn?
use the search bar!!!! hahahaha jk.....just read the wiki
As well as what's already been suggested, take time to read the manual and play around with the ppc. The importance of experiential learning can't be understated when it comes to these things. Unlike with full sized PCs, performing a hard reset to restore the ppc to an out of the box state is easy work.
So quick question. When I'm copying .CAB files or .EXE files onto my kaiser, where do I put them? I'm installing the iPhone app posted by Grumps, and I don't know where I should put it. Should I just make a file tree for every program I put on there under Program Files?
Hi, a .CAB file is just an executable installer. So best place it in the root of your storage card and delete it after installation of the app. During installation you will be asked where to install the app, PPC memory or storage card. Selecting the storage card will of course save memory, but for some reasons some apps don't work from storage card. You will have to try...
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So quick question. When I'm copying .CAB files or .EXE files onto my kaiser, where do I put them? I'm installing the iPhone app posted by Grumps, and I don't know where I should put it. Should I just make a file tree for every program I put on there under Program Files?
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I normally keep all my .cab files on my storage card so when I hard reset or re-flash I know where they are. Doesn't matter where you put them - I created a directory called (unoriginally) My Cabs. When you touch on them they will install to the necessary directory on the ppc, and can be uninstalled from the settings menu.
The .exe files could be a bit different. Some need to be installed from your pc - they will then install to the ppc next time you connect with activesync, and can be uninstalled in the same way as .cab files. Other .exe files can be stored anywhere on your ppc or storage card and will run each time you select them.
Heya. Let me be an opportunist and troll your thread to introduce myself here, too. hey all, homies n gyals, I'm Creiz, yes, it's my real name, pleased to meet y'all.
As for your quick question, If you use windows XP with dotNet framework 2, you can use this niifty utility called CabViaAciveSync to directly install your .cab files from the PC.
Right click the .cab => CabViaActiveSync.
Magic.
;P i´m noob too if you dont mine i'll use this thread to intruduce me too hehe and make a question. if i put a new rom my guarantee expires? and is good to change the default rom? what do you "kaiserians" think is the best rom for kaiser and how it works, if i make hard-reset the default rom appears? sorry but im really a noob in pocket things...
well i'm ricardo o/
fightin4theirish said:
Hey y'all, I'd just thought I'd introduce myself to the Kaiser world seeing as I'm going to be spending a lot of time here. I'm a freshman at Notre Dame, and needed (..wanted) a smart phone to help me organize this mass of everything happening around me. Being the technology geek I am, I looked quite a bit into it and decided that the "Tilt" was far superior to my dad's heralded and suggested iPhone (plus I kinda loathe Apple. So eh. lol) Anyway, I received my Tilt as a gift last night, and realized that it came bloated with AT&T's crap and didn't look like the same home screen I saw on HTC's website. After spending more than a couple of hours here, I was successful in blindly following different instructions I found in at least 3 different threads to flash the Dutty's HTC ROM to my Kaiser, and I absolutely love it. Problem is though, I have no idea what hell is going on here. I don't know what a .RUU even is, and even though a .CAB was easy to figure out, I have no idea where to put them on phone. And before I get lambasted with the mantra of "use the searchbar" venerated by web forum's loyal users, I'd like to point out that if you take a step back, look at all of this info on here, and pretend you don't understand any of it, it's pretty damn hard to decipher this stuff. So if you guys know of any "Pocket PC New Users" guide written by knowledgable ppl on the web, and any XDA-Beginner guides or anything, please point them in my direction. I'm more than happy to read. However, reading 33 forum pages to figure out how to do 8 lines of instructions for one thing is extremely time consuming, cumbersome, and not that helpful. So again, it's nice to meet you all, and maybe y'all could help point me out in the right direction.
---Holy crap, that's a lot of text. Basically, hey y'all, nice to meet you, and do you think you could help out a newb who's able and willing to learn?
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Hi:
I am really a newbie too, only had the Tilt for 2 weeks now. But, I have read hundreds of threads here already, so I'm learning. My suggestion to you is, be sure to install Kaiser Tweaks, it is a great app, which will make it very easy to perform certain registry edits on your phone. The most important of which being, it enables you, with one click to enable hsdpa (faster than 3G internet). For some insane reason AT&T has this disabled on the Tilt. Although, maybe with your new ROM on there you may not need it. I am still using the AT&T ROM, so I'm not sure which features are or aren't on Dutty's ROM.
Anyway, just keep reading, it's amazing how much there is to learn here
My suggestions for best apps for the Tilt are:
Kaiser Tweaks (one click reg edits for many useful items)
SPB Pocket Plus (today screen interface, which looks cool, and is so useful for quick access to programs, files etc.)
All SPB products are pretty cool, and there are several to choose from depending on your needs
S2U2 (slide to unlock program, very useful, although the Tilt seems locked when in suspend mode, it really isn't)
PS: You're right alot of people do just tell you to go search, but believe it or not, there are MANY people here, who are willing to help a newbie, and understand that sometimes searches don't give us the answers we need. I have received tons of help from very nice people here.

disable cab delete

Why doesn't anybody cook this into roms? For that matter, why isn't this toggleable somewhere in Settings by default, huh Microsoft?!
Looks like someone didn't read the sticky...
[UPDATED] >> !! - ALL Important LINKS - !! < > !! Noobs and ALL read carefully !! <<
Before starting to post or even to modify your Device
read all carefully
VERY IMPORTANT - watch carefully
raduque said:
Why doesn't anybody cook this into roms? For that matter, why isn't this toggleable somewhere in Settings by default, huh Microsoft?!
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As funny as dooby's reply was, oddly enough, some people do not like having the cabs stay on their device. It wastes space and is a bit annoying to navigate after reflashing a rom. With the advent of the UC capable roms, I would have to say that if you like keeping your cabs around, customize it into your setup. You can read about UC here and here.
phreke
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You be quiet with that oversized waste of space post.
I was complaining about WM deleting cabs from my storage card. It doesn't bother me to delete them from the device itself. I still think it should be a toggleable setting at least to exclude the SD card.
Its actually kind of helps me to have the cabs delete themselves. I just keep a folder on my PC with all the cabs -- then when I put it on my Storage Card after a Hard Reset or New Rom, I can tell what is installed easy cuz the cabs disappear. I don't want them to stay on the phone. Just my preference.
raduque said:
You be quiet with that oversized waste of space post.
I was complaining about WM deleting cabs from my storage card. It doesn't bother me to delete them from the device itself. I still think it should be a toggleable setting at least to exclude the SD card.
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I know what you were asking. I linked you to the video because "it is always better to reply than to start a new thread" and I think you should have made use of XDA's "best kept secret, the Search button."
The former would allow you to ask specific ROM makers why they don't include. The latter would have given you the answer you seek from the ROM makers themselves (since they've all been asked this question before).
You didn't actually think you were the first to ask this question, did you?
Nope, not that it matters. It was an open question to all, except smart asses like you. I wasn't asking rom makers specifically but everybody and their opinions.
I know how to Search, I do it all the time, except I don't have the time for it as I'm at work right now.
I thank you for wasting time ans space again, though, with a second 100% unhelpful post, my good sir.
Edit: I'm done here.
raduque said:
Nope, not that it matters. It was an open question to all, except smart asses like you. I wasn't asking rom makers specifically but everybody and their opinions.
I know how to Search, I do it all the time, except I don't have the time for it as I'm at work right now.
I thank you for wasting time ans space again, though, with a second 100% unhelpful post, my good sir.
Edit: I'm done here.
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I for one did wanted to cook it into my past and current releases but never had any luck getting it to work. The only rom I've every used that had it working correctly was pdaviet roms. But I have spent some time with my up coming rom and was able to cook it into it. So my next release Open Touch v4.0 does have it included.
For me it has been a learning process working with the base rom itself and there are many things we want it to do but some times it just will not work the way we want it to.
Regards,
Well a read only cab file stays after installation. I assign all my cab files "read only" attributes, either from desktop PC before I put in on my phone, or use total commander to do that.
I didnt know this was a Debate just why it has access to remove the cabs from our memory cards. I myself hate cab delete because ive used a number of roms lately all of them Crash hard on me. I think i figured out what is going on but i work 12 hour shifts and if it freezes up and i have to hard reset at work i need to get the things i use most back up on the phone.
Try sprite backup...
After hard reset I can get back to the original state in minutes.
Backup folder
Just copy your cabs twice. Once to the phone for install, and once to your PIM backup folder. That way you'll always have a spare. You can copy those and reinstall your important apps anytime.

Faster TILT after Hard Soft Reset for Newbies

Reason For this thread:
New easy to find Quick alternative for NEWBIES wanting to know ho to obtain a safe fast responding Tilt without messing the Device.
I THINK AT&T SCREWEDUP this beautifull piece of TECH with the Bloatware and not including HTC custom add on.
Have to say my Tilt was ok out of the box BUT NOW IS WAY BETTER.
Now I'm not expert (I'm more of a newbie) but theese is something I did and is really True and it WORKED.
I kindly ASK
***** Only people with FACTS/EXPERIENCE will POST HERE what they think is not HERE***********
****** NEWBIES with NO EXPERIENCE or with NO FACTS DO NOT POST HERE just READ, so we can keep it clean for all people without knowledge and no time to read QUESTIONS******
What to do:
Just:
1. Hard Reset
2. Soft Reset before the count down of 3 secs end.
So the AT&T SLOWING BLOATWARE (Crap Software from AT&T like Stupid DEMOS and Tricky Charging services, etc.) are not installed.
All this BLOATWARE make your Tilt SLOW.
Bennefits:
1. Faster Respponse "Overall" and I mean "Overall"
2. The so mentioned Slow DIALER, is no more SLOW, now it respond FASTER.
And let me tell you that I have over 300 contacts in my Tilt.
3. Way more free space for you to install direct to the device all Plugins and tools You Want.
4. When accessing WINDOWS folder, is FASTER.
5. Notice Faster Camera auto focus Shoot.
ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC.................................
Now I know there are some people who post already discussed topics.
How do I know this? BECAUSE I READ ABOUT IT ABOUT 100's of time about it.
And Because I read and someone should put toguether some specific threads (already saw some of them). And is very hard for me to read a thread that is maybe 80% guessing, I don't know, maybe, I heard of, etc, etc, etc.
I did this for all those people that DON't have time to go thru a Thread with over 50 posts mostly of craps and finding the answer somere in the post # 41.
NOW FOR YOU THAT HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE and PLEASE!!!! no "GUESSING" Tell us about additional beneffits, or what important APPS are missing once You REJECT the BLOATWARE if any by replying to this POST and using the Title:
Title: Beneffits
or
Title: Missing
Thanks!!! to all of you.
Thank you for your effort. I didn't know fo all the benefits from rebooting at the 3-second count, I am to used to the custom ROM's, but this is great guide for those who want to stick with the AT&T ROM.
Its already been talked out many times here and on the ATT forums. Its even been added in the Tilt Specific WiKi already at the bottom and shows the difference an whats installed before and after the bloatware removal:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TiltSpecificWikiPage
But basically the
Benefit: It removes all the trial ware that you'd probably never buy and frees up space.
Missing: Still not as good as a custom rom that has all the performance tweaks to speed up the device (although the newest official ROM is close). If you know what your doing most of these can be fixed afterwards like the registry tweaks. But if your going to go through all that trouble you might as well just cook your own ROM or find one thats set up to your liking.
True
PsyOpWarlord said:
Its already been talked out many times here and on the ATT forums. Its even been added in the Tilt Specific WiKi already at the bottom and shows the difference an whats installed before and after the bloatware removal:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TiltSpecificWikiPage
But basically the
Benefit: It removes all the trial ware that you'd probably never buy and frees up space.
Missing: Still not as good as a custom rom that has all the performance tweaks to speed up the device (although the newest official ROM is close). If you know what your doing most of these can be fixed afterwards like the registry tweaks. But if your going to go through all that trouble you might as well just cook your own ROM or find one thats set up to your liking.
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But the Problem is that some like to play safe, and I think those are the people without time to read long threads because all the questions.
Then after alot of time reading (again long confusing threads) when you think you found what you where looking for, somewhere appears a known problem you don't want to have.
In my case for example wouldn't like to lose Basic Dialer Alternatives and still confused if it will aslo remove those options if I install any of the dialers or if it will create conflicts and so on, like ohhh!!!!! I install some app and now I'm having problems with something, and then GUESS WHAT, somtimes people end up HARD RESETTING.
Another thing is for example pop up messages that are shown in a specific color that match your theme, then you install something, and BAM POP UP MESSAGES WITH PINK COLORS and so on.
My intention was to make an easy to find info for newbies. Believe me I have read but not alot of time to play, and try to go thru previous POSTS but no response.
Now I put this new threads and for the replies I recived I think I had better results than by going thru old post and actualy thanks for the replies I know that probably people will read this and now will be directed to the wikki.
Like I will do, just Hopping it is complete and accurate info.
Thanks for replies.
I just updated my rom to
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe
I'm trying to remove the bloatware BUT it reinstalls it everytime. Is there something in the new ROM that prevents me from removing it or is there something new I need to do.
I had no problems removing it from the previous ROM. Thanks
JerryG said:
I just updated my rom to
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe
I'm trying to remove the bloatware BUT it reinstalls it everytime. Is there something in the new ROM that prevents me from removing it or is there something new I need to do.
I had no problems removing it from the previous ROM. Thanks
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You must do the soft reset before the 3 second countdown.
From what I know of the trick to soft reset worked only with WM6 ROMS, not with the newer WM6.1 ones.
soft reset works with WM6.1
I am one of the "play it safe" guys and the soft reset does work with WM6.1, you just have to catch it BEFORE the customize 3 second countdown even appears. I have used registry tweaks and jacked up my phone plenty, resulting in hard resets and each time i catch it before the countdown. if you miss it, just soft reset and start over again.
Newbs Unite!
Its really not that hard to flash a custom rom, besides you think your device is fast now? Well flash a rom.
kilrah said:
From what I know of the trick to soft reset worked only with WM6 ROMS, not with the newer WM6.1 ones.
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I'll second that. I've tried soft resetting at every imaginable point after the restore and every time it just resets and goes right back into the customization garbage.
**After reading Stu's post I'm going to try it one more time. I'll post my results.**
Yessir..it does work. Thanks Stu!
this works on dutty's rom even while it shows the countdown...

Panel Manager Downgrade?

I was wondering if it is possible to downgrade back to the original panel manager, and if anyone has the installer for it? I recently downloaded and installed the R3A panel manager, and since then, my X1 has been freezing having errors much more often.
Can anyone help me out here?
It should be possible .. panelmanager only occupies one folder in program files .. replacing all the files should work. Rename the old dir to avoid deleting active EXE.
However I don't have the old files anymore.
I want to do the same.
Where can I find the old Panel Manager?
Sign me up for this as well! Frustrating to get a "we're sorry" all the time.
as far as im aware you just uninstall the updated pannel manager and all will go back to normal.
i too dislike the updated version.
Jasand said:
as far as im aware you just uninstall the updated pannel manager and all will go back to normal.
i too dislike the updated version.
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You just uninstall it? Doesn't that remove the x-panel functionality?
pm me a mail so i can send you the old panel manager (folder). You only have to terminate the posses and then replace the folder.
sorry guys, but what's exactly wrong with the new one? I have no problem with mine and it actually works faster and more fluently.
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sorry guys, but what's exactly wrong with the new one? I have no problem with mine and it actually works faster and more fluently.
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After installing the new one, my phone gives me the "we're sorry" screen, and continues "a problem has occurred with PanelContainer.exe"
Ends up with the phone freezing completely, and a soft-reset is required.
Yes, if you unistall the panel manager, the panel interface is gone too.
The problem is, it seems like every time I push the panel button, the thing freezes, or it comes up with a slew of errors, as about 3 programs crash.
Honestly, who put that stupid 'upgrade' here? It's hardly stable at all. What is it, an alpha version? If it were up to me, I'd remove it from the site, because it's more trouble than it's worth, and has nearly made my X1 unusable. I'm considering a hard reset to get things back to normal.
Xuanlong said:
Yes, if you unistall the panel manager, the panel interface is gone too.
The problem is, it seems like every time I push the panel button, the thing freezes, or it comes up with a slew of errors, as about 3 programs crash.
Honestly, who put that stupid 'upgrade' here? It's hardly stable at all. What is it, an alpha version? If it were up to me, I'd remove it from the site, because it's more trouble than it's worth, and has nearly made my X1 unusable. I'm considering a hard reset to get things back to normal.
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Probably you don't read before installing something. Go here and read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498934
You have to install ActiveX Deployment first...
lol... look junior... this thing works perfect. do as guy above said. damn... You should be more grateful for having so much extra stuff for free.
Anyway, at least I installed ActiveX_Deployment_signed.CAB before the new panelmanager. The attitude ain't helping, "senior".
ok
the thing is that he should READ MORE before moaning. come on. why so many people cannot live without spoonfeeding????????? why should we agree to read his rants??
I DID install the ActiveX deployment, thank you very much.
It does not work 'perfect', just because one person out of many doesnt have constant problems with it.
If you dont have something helpful to contribute to the topic, dont bother replying. What exactly is it that we're supposed to be reading. I got it from this topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498934
The first post has nothing but a download link, and the 2nd has about 2 lines saying that it's been tested (hard to believe) and urges people to upgrade in caps lock no less.
We're not a bunch of idiots who cant read. And we're not moaning, but if shell out a good deal of money for a smart phone, and you install some update that screws up half of the features, you'd want some answers too.
I install everything but panel cause too many problem. Hard reset mine coming up
Try this one
install it in device then soft reset ....
stock R2a panel manager ......
as im aware you just uninstall the updated pannel manager and all will go back to normal.
i too dislike the updated version.
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I think if this worked then people wouldnt be looking for the R2A panel manager.
I had same problesm as many getting the new R3A cabs to work, and as a result had to just hard reset the phone, after this the phone has been working pretty stable. The Media 2 Panel didnt install, and to be honest until i can easily make playlists it crap to me.
Another thing, I dont know what it is about those that have been on the forum a long time compared to us noobs. Theres no need to talk down to other people, just because a person has made 3 posts, doesnt make them an idiot.
This whole R3A stuff thats come out, probably works fine for those experienced in developing etc... but for those that arent it is difficult for them to get working, like myself. And although this a forum is for the hardcore developers, and not noobs like me, please understand that many like myself really appreciate the work you do here.
If werent for this place, I'd have sent the phone back already and waited for the Idou. So keep it up and be kind to us noobs
Kofi
Xuanlong said:
I DID install the ActiveX deployment, thank you very much.
It does not work 'perfect', just because one person out of many doesnt have constant problems with it.
If you dont have something helpful to contribute to the topic, dont bother replying. What exactly is it that we're supposed to be reading. I got it from this topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498934
The first post has nothing but a download link, and the 2nd has about 2 lines saying that it's been tested (hard to believe) and urges people to upgrade in caps lock no less.
We're not a bunch of idiots who cant read. And we're not moaning, but if shell out a good deal of money for a smart phone, and you install some update that screws up half of the features, you'd want some answers too.
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The second post has to lines ,but it also says that you have ti install ActiveX deployment FIRST. I was just trying to help
Also noone told you to do this update. Those cabs are not SE official updates and there are beta too. It is up to you to take the risk...
I did install the ActiveX thing. I read and understood the post just fine.
Part of the problem is, I had no idea if it was official or not, if it was a beta, or anything. Had I known, I likely would not have installed it, or at least not been surprised when I had problems. If it's beta, or if it's unofficial, it should that instead of "DEFINITIVELY WORTH UPGRADING!!!" Then all of us who read the post as you all keep saying to, would know. It's obviously misleading, I bet a lot of people thought they were getting a stable piece of software.

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