I searched but couldn't find anything about this app here so I thought I'd start a thread. If I missed it, please redirect me.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.lucid.qwerty
Has anyone else bought and installed this? When I saw it I didn't hesitate, just bought it because of all of Lucid's other work. No it's not a finished product -- as he says in the product listing, it's a work in progress and he's quite open to suggestions, revising it pretty much daily since it appeared.
The way it works is this: most keys have two letters on them and this lets him make each key larger than the keys on the standard keyboards. To get the 1st character, press once, to get the 2nd character, quick press the key twice. You may notice there's no left or right parenthesis - in the current version (1.51.06), while there's no hint on the keyfaces, you can long-press quite a few of the keys and you'll get alternate text. For instance, long-pressing the "jk" key will give you "(" and "l" will give you ")". I bought it and am keeping it because
1) I like to support active developers
2) I like to help shape an app -- Lucid responds quickly and well to suggestions and bug reports
Do I have it set as my default input method? No. But I use it regularly cuz, well, my fingers are big and it's easier to work with two letters per key than 3
I'll post some screenshots when I get a chance (unless someone else beats me to it).
short/y said:
I searched but couldn't find anything about this app here so I thought I'd start a thread. If I missed it, please redirect me.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.lucid.qwerty
Has anyone else bought and installed this? When I saw it I didn't hesitate, just bought it because of all of Lucid's other work. No it's not a finished product -- as he says in the product listing, it's a work in progress and he's quite open to suggestions, revising it pretty much daily since it appeared.
The way it works is this: most keys have two letters on them and this lets him make each key larger than the keys on the standard keyboards. To get the 1st character, press once, to get the 2nd character, quick press the key twice. You may notice there's no left or right parenthesis - in the current version (1.51.06), while there's no hint on the keyfaces, you can long-press quite a few of the keys and you'll get alternate text. For instance, long-pressing the "jk" key will give you "(" and "l" will give you ")". I bought it and am keeping it because
1) I like to support active developers
2) I like to help shape an app -- Lucid responds quickly and well to suggestions and bug reports
Do I have it set as my default input method? No. But I use it regularly cuz, well, my fingers are big and it's easier to work with two letters per key than 3
I'll post some screenshots when I get a chance (unless someone else beats me to it).
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Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
not cool to be cheap!
turboyo said:
Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
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I wholeheartedly agree with short/y's post. I really can contribute much to the community in yearned of developing so when I c a fellow xda members app in the market I buy. Sometimes I use it some times I dnt. I do it as a way of giving back to my fellow members of xda!
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Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
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Dude, the developers of HTC's IME aren't reading XDA nor is there any meaningful way to influence their development on a daily basis. The CooTek offering is a different story -- I was a beta tester before they released and I've used their keyboard on Windows Mobile every since -- they're good and they listen.
BUT, Lucid's HERE and listens on a daily basis. You can directly influence how it looks and how it works today. If you're not interested, that's OK. But Lucid's demonstrated time and again that he's interested in furthering Android and the community in general so I'm supporting it and him. That doesn't mean I can't support other methods, too.
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PocketCM is good, but I'm looking for something better. Even though PocketCM doesn't require a stylus, I'm still having a horrible time typing with it.
What I'm looking for is a thumb-friendly, on-screen keyboard that'll take advantage of predictive text to allow larger buttons. Something like the Blackberry Pearl keyboard (1 or 2 letters per key), or even the traditional phone pad (with 3-4 letter per key) would be enough.
Anyone have a suggestion?
cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find
Johnston411 said:
cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find
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Thanks! Searching now.
Here's the link to Cootek Touchpal, its the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334437
Did you spell it right? A search revealed nothing...
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Got link, thanks!
Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?
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Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?
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hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.
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hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.
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Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about it:
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.
It's not for one thumb but Spb Full Screen keyboard is the best I've used. I actully don't use the Kaiser keyboard and type 3 times faster with Spb. Also try Tengo its a one thumb kb with big keys.
Touchpal is nice ive used it before.. Im still waiting for PocketCM to release a newer versions as i had some issues with the current version..
As for another one, I flashed my Tilt to the AKU cooked rom thats floating around the forums and there is actually a SIP that is a phone pad that supports T9 input and I find it very handy and works well for one handed operations!
Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.
try to go to the htc asia website and download the official phone pad from HTC! I really find it useful!!
where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?
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where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?
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Here;
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/htm...Page=searchResults&id=prod5702026&sf=48190044
thank you. you guys are always so fast to help
If you buy the PRO version you can do that
This is the website:
http://www.cootek.com/index.html
srmz said:
Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.
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What about Resco Keyboard ?
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Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.
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yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!
Well, now that I've been using it for a while, I have several big problems. I don't know who to blame (M$ or Cootek), but here they are:
1) The program will only work if I use it in conjunction with sipchange. Once I do that, I cannot select any other keyboard. They come up in the choice list, but if I select them, nothing happens. So I'm stuck with it. If I'm using the stylus, I prefer the standard windows keyboard, which is why this is an issue
2) The program does not go down and stay down. Unlike the standard windows keyboard, TouchPal is always popping up in your face. It drives me nuts, as I only seem to actually need it 1/4 of the time it decides to pop up. It seems to take 2-3 times minimizing it for it to finally stay down... and when it does, it can pop up again for absolutely no reason.
3) It may be the most the most intuitive keyboard, but it's still not very "finger-friendly". I don't consider myself to have unusually large hands, but I still cannot reliably hit the right key every time, even when I'm careful. Another thing it will do is detect a capital letter (diagonal motion) when I very clearly touched it without a swipe. Not sure why this is...
I'm still in search of something better....
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yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!
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What about Resco Keyboard ?
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I'm curious about the same thing. I love the Fx mode that the Resco keyboards offer.
Is there a way to customize comm manager (change from 6 button to 10 or change the buttons--replace data connection with 3G) other than using Advanced Config. I can do it through Advanced Config but wondered whether there was another way to do it on the fly that I am missing. Thx.
Did you try looking into the stickied thread at the top of the forum that has all the cab files??
There's a 10 buttom comm manager right there.
I know. I am looking for a utility that switches from the 10 to the 6 or changes the order of the buttons on the 10 or 6. Maybe I am not explaining it well enough ....
Why would you want to change between the two? The 10 button has it all, including disabling data connection and 3G?
Aesthetics. The 6 button on/off looks good with certain themes/roms. Not a huge issue. I guess not a big demand for it.
If you use Kaiser Tweak you can customize the Comm Manager (doesn't change from 6 to 10 buttons or vice versa) but you can re-order the buttons. Give it a shot.
Got it. Thanks.
... Is there anyone that found a way to make the 10-buttons CommManager "dpad-friendly" ?
It's so annoying : you can navigate the homepage of your PDA with the dpad, and then start the commmanager... and there : you're stuck !
Have to touch the screen to choose any of the items (wireless, data, bluetooth...)
sebbes said:
... Is there anyone that found a way to make the 10-buttons CommManager "dpad-friendly" ?
It's so annoying : you can navigate the homepage of your PDA with the dpad, and then start the commmanager... and there : you're stuck !
Have to touch the screen to choose any of the items (wireless, data, bluetooth...)
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Yeah, because it's SUCH a pain to point your finger at the screen and push.
Wow, it's amazing the things people complain about.
If I took your logic, I would ask why Kaiser has a hard-keyboard ? It's so easy for ppl to press the screen
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I have the aluminum case, and the screen is behind a hardglass !
So you can give a try if you want... but I'd bet your won't even bend the glass.
You didn't say you had a hard case, did ya? I don't have one and I don't know anyone that does. Everyone I know uses the stylus on the screen, just like it's supposed to be used.
Just use AEB to assign a hardkey, I use the windoz logo key, double press toggles BT power, tripple toggles WiFi. You get the picture.
I'll give a try to AEB (my Win button is already reassigned, same for the camera button which triggers the CommMgr...)
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You didn't say you had a hard case, did ya? I don't have one and I don't know anyone that does. Everyone I know uses the stylus on the screen, just like it's supposed to be used.
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Like I said, why would people buy a phone with real keyboard, as there's already onscreen keyboard... That's exactly same scenario.
My question was not about "how could I reeducate myself", but how to turn this smartphone into something even smarter...
Even the ComMgr on the HTC Tornado can be manager from the joystick... (running WM5)
So it's a shame if HTC did remove this so simple thing as focus-ordered buttons...
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Like I said, why would people buy a phone with real keyboard, as there's already onscreen keyboard... That's exactly same scenario.
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You bought it, didn't you? Why did you buy it? I'll tell you why - it's one thing to have an on screen keyboard, it's a totally different thing to have a real, tactile keyboard with real keys to give your fingers feedback. You're comparing apples and oranges. Your logic doesn't fly with me, sorry. You can't touch-type with an on screen keyboard (i.e. type by feel).
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You bought it, didn't you? Why did you buy it? I'll tell you why - it's one thing to have an on screen keyboard, it's a totally different thing to have a real, tactile keyboard with real keys to give your fingers feedback. You're comparing apples and oranges. Your logic doesn't fly with me, sorry. You can't touch-type with an on screen keyboard (i.e. type by feel).
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WOW. You have been nothing but a condescending prick in every one of you posts on this thread. Sorry you don't like the new kids on your block asking questions. If you don't want to contribute anything in an amicable manner, please, leave us to cry in the corner.
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WOW. You have been nothing but a condescending prick in every one of you posts on this thread. Sorry you don't like the new kids on your block asking questions. If you don't want to contribute anything in an amicable manner, please, leave us to cry in the corner.
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LOL. Thanks for the laugh. You made my night.
The OP had a question, and I answered it. If it's not what he was looking for, then he should learn how to phrase his questions in a better way.
I don't apologize for my wording. I am short and to the point.
Lastly, some people will complain about anything and everything. You can't help that or change that.
Ok fine, so you're apparently upset about people asking for tips & tricks... Then I assume your Kaiser was just perfect as-is right ?
(...so I guess you kept the stock ROM untouched, and didnt apply any of the great XDA-dev patches/fixes then)
Anyone with a more constructive feedback, like maybe importing the CommMgr of a different HTC pdaphone ?
I have the Tilt with the stock AT&T ROM. It does everything I need it to. I have, however, applied many of the tweaks and fixes available here. I ask very few questions and do LOTS of reading. I read almost every thread in this forum looking for little tweaks to make my phone even better than it already is.
I have no problems with people asking questions. That is what this forum is for. What bugs me is people who post the same question over and over without reading ANYTHING. (not that I was referring to you)
I was trying to be a little sarcastic with my first reply, but I guess you took it the wrong way.
So then, if you said I was posting without reading anything ...
Do you mean you were able to find a way ? (finaly we'll get something constructive)
I am not really new to XDA-dev, so I know how searching the place works...
Unfortunately, neither the 6buttons nor the 10buttons CommMgr is able to do (apparently) what I'm trying to get.
Hence the post...
Well I highly doubt that you will be able to switch between the 6 and 10 buttom comm mgr. They are both cab installs and require a SR after install.
What about RemE's suggestion? Did you try that? You could also remap the PTT button.
P.S. I wasn't referring to you when I said people don't read before posting.
Hardware Keyboard - $ 100 Reward
100 USD PRIZE MONEY
Dear All,
I love my X1. The only thing I am not happy with is the (lack of) tactile feedback on the Hardware Keyboard of the X1. As there is little to no 'feel' to when you press the hardware keys.
There is an application out there from Snailslug which produces a small vibration whenever the touchscreen keyboard is pressed... see the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
Now I am looking for the same thing with the HW keyboard. If anyone out there is up to creating an application (with a very small footprint) that produces a small vibration (around 25ms) after each key on the hardware keyboard is pressed, I will give that person 100 USD as a big thank you. To make it fair, here are the rules:
- Deadline: 31st of August (not that someone comes two years later and wants a prize for an application I dont need anymore
- First application that does not slow down my X1 and provides the requested result will be rewarded
Thanks and all the best,
why did you open a new thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544306
He want to pay a total reward of $200... I guess...
Or not?
the reward is $100. this thread was created as the last title wasn't 'clear enough' as to what the subject is about. good luck with the application. 100 bucks are waiting
go to advanced edit and change the title of the thread if thats all u wanted to change btw
Next time I know ;-)
............
Was anyone able to come up with an application? Shouldnt be that difficult for those that are able to programm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Maybe this will work...
If so, I want my 100 USD!
casklaverstijn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Maybe this will work...
If so, I want my 100 USD!
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That's different. He wants feedback for when the hardware keyboard is pressed, not the screen.
Features:
- Vibrate always on touch events (mouse down, or mouse up)
- Vibrate only if SIP is active
- Vibrate on Key press (hardware keys)
- Adjustable vibration (duration in ms)
- configuration over command line parameters
- fully event based, so only battery consumption while vibrating
- No runtimes needed (pure C++ application)
- Works with WM 5+ (not 2003)
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I think this will do it, but i think the dev has stopt al long time ago. But it has the features WDM wants.
Oh..the 100USD is for the Developer...lol
this should be entirely possible and maybe even easy to do, IMO
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this should be entirely possible and maybe even easy to do, IMO
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so expect an app from you then?
Actually I'm not sure this is that easy to do at all.
I thought ok I'll take a look so created a new device application in visual studio, getting the device to vibrate is easy, this is well documented.
Trapping key events when you have a form / control with focus is also easy. The problem comes when you want to trap key events without having a form or focus.
I've read several posts online pointing to coredll.dll, but nothing definitive.
Lol you need a hook. Sure this exists on WinMo just like on desktop Win.
Great comments guys. Looks like there are at least a few willing to put some thought and effort in this. any chance of one of you coming up with the application anytime soon?
Firefall! said:
Lol you need a hook. Sure this exists on WinMo just like on desktop Win.
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I know I need a hook, which hook, which dll, documented where, that being my point.
I'll have another look at this tonight.
richard.ian.brown said:
I know I need a hook, which hook, which dll, documented where, that being my point.
I'll have another look at this tonight.
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You never stated so. There is not much to such a hook actually I would create the app myself if I had the means. That's about 5 lines of code, just make the device shake and pass the key on. The only trouble you will run into is that the keys seem to be hooked already, so you have to make sure you don't mess with that and prioritize your function.
Thanks Firewall. Is there anyone out there that would be able to write a few lines of code. It appears to be simple enough, if you can programm (which I cannot) which is why i am asking the pros here ;-)
AndroidSPIN is reporting that an HVGA version of Swype is now available, letting those of us with Eris' finally take a crack at this thing.
Which would be great, if it functioned. The install process goes okay (a step above the poor G1 users out there), but the keyboard then ... nothing. It's as though it doesn't exist. The Settings options are there (under Locale + Text), but nothing seems to happen. adb logcat revealed nothing in particular.
Anybody know what's up here?
You might want to follow this thread and see if it works for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622144
I would try it but I'm more of a two handed typer myself...
I like the HTC Keyboard... (maybe because I just got the phone and I'm not tired of it yet). I had swype on my Omnia before I sold it, and it worked ok there because the small, lower res screen made touch typing difficult. I'm not finding that on the Eris. Although Swype would be more fun with a capacitive screen, I had to really push hard to get to work right on the Omnia...
I agree, the HTC keyboard is top-notch. I'm already at near-native typing speed on common words. It was more out of curiosity than anything. I'm always fascinated by emerging input technologies for embedded devices, and this seemed the most clever one to cross my desk in a while.
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I agree, the HTC keyboard is top-notch. I'm already at near-native typing speed on common words. It was more out of curiosity than anything. I'm always fascinated by emerging input technologies for embedded devices, and this seemed the most clever one to cross my desk in a while.
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I like it...i use it on my Xperia...
I tried this one out on my Eris and its okay..but landscape is slow and lame...
Good Stuff though..
But like Pink I tried it just because its new....lol
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I tried this one out on my Eris and its okay..
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Oh, you got it to work? Was there any special trickery you did? Or did it just *POOF* work for you?
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Oh, you got it to work? Was there any special trickery you did? Or did it just *POOF* work for you?
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lol...no trickery...just MAGIC! lmao.
Just download it...
Then go into settings/locale&text/ and check the swype box.
Then head into your text or email app, and long press your dialogue box, it will ask you which input you wanna use swype or default keyboard and select swype!
Only prob I am having is that when i am in landscape mode, it will type but it wont show what i am typing on the screen, but if i switch to portrait it is there? weirdness...
Works just fine for me. make sure to disable audio sounds in the swype settings, there is a bug with the sounds.
I tried using it yesterday but it just wasn't my cup of tea...
here... http://rapidshare.com/files/354228280/Swype.micro.1.16.apk
this version is working fine for me, no expire warning. micro version = no tutorial/help file.
i really love swype on the eris.. it makes typing soooooo easy.
Hi
I've recently got myself a Motorola Razr i running Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and am very keen to find a really good T9-style alpha-numeric keypad because I can't get on with full size QWERTY keyboards on small devices.
I've looked at all the different options on Play but I have a question regarding the built-in keyboard options on this device/OS:
If I lock the phone with a PIN a really nice T9 keypad comes up to unlock the phone yet this is not available in other aspects of the OS such as messaging.
Does anyone know why this is, please, and is there any way to make it available elsewhere?
Thanks,
Paul
WinRazri said:
If I lock the phone with a PIN a really nice T9 keypad comes up to unlock the phone yet this is not available in other aspects of the OS such as messaging.
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It's actually a basic number pad.
I too highly dislike (hate actually) qwerty boards and I can highly recommend the (EvenBetter)NumberPad which I'm sure you've seen on the Store.
It was the first app I bought on buying the phone nearly 12 months ago and works pretty flawlessly, although for whatever reason there has been no update to it since July 2012 and the developer hasn't replied to previous emails I've sent.. As you've probably gathered there's a dearth of T9 keyboards and although I've tried some of the freebie ones since nothing comes close IMO.
My unlock screen isn't just a basic number pad - it has letters on the keys too.
Thanks for your thoughts on the other offerings out there. I have indeed seen the EvenBetter product on Play but was reluctant to spend money on something that might not have been any better than the free ones out there. In what way(s) is this one so much better than the free ones?
Thanks again for your response.
Is your phone retail or network? Curious as to why my unlock screen is just a number pad (not that it matters).
I can’t give a definitive answer as to why I find NumberPad better than the others I played around with as it’s a good ten months since I tried them and my memory won’t stretch back that far!, so let me say what I find so good about it.
The UI is simple, straightforward, and with everything you need to access on one screen: predictive text, ABC mode, add to dictionary, punctuation, numbers, caps lock, space, return, delete. Everything is perfectly sized and intuitive, and the only reason you’ll need to switch to the stock keyboard - accessed by a single button press - is if you want to insert any special characters.
Without it I would never have moved to Android (I had experienced it beforehand on a friends handset) as I detest qwerty boards on a phone, and to me its priceless.
I got my handset from a 3 store and was expecting it to be locked to that network but this is not the case. The 'System version' detail in the 'About phone' section makes reference to 'retail' if that answers your question.
Thanks for the additional feedback on the EvenBetter keypad. You obviously think it's worth spending money on so I'll give it some serious consideration.
Free keyboard app Multiling will give you either qwert kb or t9. I use its qwert kb with Light theme which looks like iphone kb and reduce my mistyping when compared with other themes..
WinRazri,
Have you discovered something on built-in T9 keyboard? I got Swype preinstalled on my "I", and now i study to use it but anyway miss so much easy to use T9 i have had on my SonyEricsson LwW.
As an alternative T9 on Play market i found Smart Keyboard Pro, but you got to pay for it a little and dispite of all its advantages it's not a built-in app((