Hardware Keyboard - $ 100 Reward
100 USD PRIZE MONEY
Dear All,
I love my X1. The only thing I am not happy with is the (lack of) tactile feedback on the Hardware Keyboard of the X1. As there is little to no 'feel' to when you press the hardware keys.
There is an application out there from Snailslug which produces a small vibration whenever the touchscreen keyboard is pressed... see the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
Now I am looking for the same thing with the HW keyboard. If anyone out there is up to creating an application (with a very small footprint) that produces a small vibration (around 25ms) after each key on the hardware keyboard is pressed, I will give that person 100 USD as a big thank you. To make it fair, here are the rules:
- Deadline: 31st of August (not that someone comes two years later and wants a prize for an application I dont need anymore
- First application that does not slow down my X1 and provides the requested result will be rewarded
Thanks and all the best,
why did you open a new thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544306
He want to pay a total reward of $200... I guess...
Or not?
the reward is $100. this thread was created as the last title wasn't 'clear enough' as to what the subject is about. good luck with the application. 100 bucks are waiting
go to advanced edit and change the title of the thread if thats all u wanted to change btw
Next time I know ;-)
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Was anyone able to come up with an application? Shouldnt be that difficult for those that are able to programm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Maybe this will work...
If so, I want my 100 USD!
casklaverstijn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Maybe this will work...
If so, I want my 100 USD!
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That's different. He wants feedback for when the hardware keyboard is pressed, not the screen.
Features:
- Vibrate always on touch events (mouse down, or mouse up)
- Vibrate only if SIP is active
- Vibrate on Key press (hardware keys)
- Adjustable vibration (duration in ms)
- configuration over command line parameters
- fully event based, so only battery consumption while vibrating
- No runtimes needed (pure C++ application)
- Works with WM 5+ (not 2003)
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I think this will do it, but i think the dev has stopt al long time ago. But it has the features WDM wants.
Oh..the 100USD is for the Developer...lol
this should be entirely possible and maybe even easy to do, IMO
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this should be entirely possible and maybe even easy to do, IMO
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so expect an app from you then?
Actually I'm not sure this is that easy to do at all.
I thought ok I'll take a look so created a new device application in visual studio, getting the device to vibrate is easy, this is well documented.
Trapping key events when you have a form / control with focus is also easy. The problem comes when you want to trap key events without having a form or focus.
I've read several posts online pointing to coredll.dll, but nothing definitive.
Lol you need a hook. Sure this exists on WinMo just like on desktop Win.
Great comments guys. Looks like there are at least a few willing to put some thought and effort in this. any chance of one of you coming up with the application anytime soon?
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Lol you need a hook. Sure this exists on WinMo just like on desktop Win.
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I know I need a hook, which hook, which dll, documented where, that being my point.
I'll have another look at this tonight.
richard.ian.brown said:
I know I need a hook, which hook, which dll, documented where, that being my point.
I'll have another look at this tonight.
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You never stated so. There is not much to such a hook actually I would create the app myself if I had the means. That's about 5 lines of code, just make the device shake and pass the key on. The only trouble you will run into is that the keys seem to be hooked already, so you have to make sure you don't mess with that and prioritize your function.
Thanks Firewall. Is there anyone out there that would be able to write a few lines of code. It appears to be simple enough, if you can programm (which I cannot) which is why i am asking the pros here ;-)
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But yet with all the talent on this board...
We can't figure out how to get the damn keyboard light to stay on longer than 5 seconds (8125)... Errrrrrrr
Just my rant! Thanks for stopping by.
5 secs is more then enough for me, if I dont type, I dont need the keyboard light on...and when I start typing, it goes on again....no problem at all
I did some work on this, but without a Wizard I can't test any ideas out.
For anyone interested or with a fusion powered brain, have a look through the battery driver. That's where this is effected on the Universal.
V
Keyboard light
Yeah - I am not a geek, just a user. Having said that, I simply keep my left thumb on the "dot" key and tap it if I need the light. Do I have to say that I tap it again when I want to type a non-special key?
I understand the light is a creature comfort, but, sheesh, the machine is already soooo awesome, this seems like a very trivial complaint.
IMHO
TR
vijay555 said:
I did some work on this, but without a Wizard I can't test any ideas out.
For anyone interested or with a fusion powered brain, have a look through the battery driver. That's where this is effected on the Universal.
V
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If you need a beta tester for a work around for this let me know. I can load it up and let you know if it works.
something to try
There is a backlight hack in the Univelsal wiki forum Try to do that
wiki.xda-developers.com
vijay555 said:
I did some work on this, but without a Wizard I can't test any ideas out.
For anyone interested or with a fusion powered brain, have a look through the battery driver. That's where this is effected on the Universal.
V
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Howdy Vj -
I was going to start poking around the Wiz driver soon. Can you point me to any forum posts I can reference on the relevant locations within the Uni driver?
summiter - hi! I spent quite a while disassembling the Universal stuff, because we know that does use the reg key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\QKeyLedTimeout
to control backlight time.
I traced this back to the battery driver, which also has some other useful stuff. Then I think I got bored, but you can check the Wizard driver to see if it has an equivalent. Otherwise I tried to hook directly into the driver to activate the backlight directly with an IOCTL, but not successful at the time. It doesn't export a function directly to activate the backlight I think.
I did try and it did not work, simulating a keypress, modifying the input queue, and various techniques for spoofing keyboard input, but the backlight is activated by the driver at a hardware level, not because of spoofed keyboard presses. So I think best way is to reverse engineer the driver and hack into the backlight there... but I moved on to other things first...
V
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summiter - hi! I spent quite a while disassembling the Universal stuff, because we know that does use the reg key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\QKeyLedTimeout
to control backlight time.
I traced this back to the battery driver, which also has some other useful stuff. Then I think I got bored, but you can check the Wizard driver to see if it has an equivalent. Otherwise I tried to hook directly into the driver to activate the backlight directly with an IOCTL, but not successful at the time. It doesn't export a function directly to activate the backlight I think.
I did try and it did not work, simulating a keypress, modifying the input queue, and various techniques for spoofing keyboard input, but the backlight is activated by the driver at a hardware level, not because of spoofed keyboard presses. So I think best way is to reverse engineer the driver and hack into the backlight there... but I moved on to other things first...
V
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Wow.... Like I said lots of brain power, and yet the solution to a simple task eludes even the most bright...
As for all current reg hacks none of the work on the 8125.
DXL007: don't know if that's a complement or an insult, but I have to choose my battles: as the famous quote says, this type of stuff is "99% perspiration and 1% inspiration"... I had to do quite a lot of reversing just to get to an educated point of failure Then I just play call of duty until I'm ready to do the next one! And I'm working on several new, unrelated apps first.
But as I said, I don't have a Wizard, and there are a lot of other guys on the board capable of this! But I'll try to have another look when I get time... I tend to drift between projects subject to time.
V
DXL007 said:
vijay555 said:
summiter - hi! I spent quite a while disassembling the Universal stuff, because we know that does use the reg key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\QKeyLedTimeout
to control backlight time.
I traced this back to the battery driver, which also has some other useful stuff. Then I think I got bored, but you can check the Wizard driver to see if it has an equivalent. Otherwise I tried to hook directly into the driver to activate the backlight directly with an IOCTL, but not successful at the time. It doesn't export a function directly to activate the backlight I think.
I did try and it did not work, simulating a keypress, modifying the input queue, and various techniques for spoofing keyboard input, but the backlight is activated by the driver at a hardware level, not because of spoofed keyboard presses. So I think best way is to reverse engineer the driver and hack into the backlight there... but I moved on to other things first...
V
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Wow.... Like I said lots of brain power, and yet the solution to a simple task eludes even the most bright...
As for all current reg hacks none of the work on the 8125.
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VJ handled your message quite gentlemanly. I on the other hand think you should take your sense of entitlement elsewhere.
vijay555 and summiter,
I hope DXL007 meant this more as encouregment than it came across, but I hope you guys realize that the vast majority of the people on this forum appreciate what you do for us and don't feel it's something you owe us. There aren't many people that can and will provide such useful software and information and not expect an arm and a leg for it. Mainly because of the two of you my 8125 is the perfect pda and keeps getting better.
Thanks,
Mike H
summiter said:
DXL007 said:
vijay555 said:
summiter - hi! I spent quite a while disassembling the Universal stuff, because we know that does use the reg key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\QKeyLedTimeout
to control backlight time.
I traced this back to the battery driver, which also has some other useful stuff. Then I think I got bored, but you can check the Wizard driver to see if it has an equivalent. Otherwise I tried to hook directly into the driver to activate the backlight directly with an IOCTL, but not successful at the time. It doesn't export a function directly to activate the backlight I think.
I did try and it did not work, simulating a keypress, modifying the input queue, and various techniques for spoofing keyboard input, but the backlight is activated by the driver at a hardware level, not because of spoofed keyboard presses. So I think best way is to reverse engineer the driver and hack into the backlight there... but I moved on to other things first...
V
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Wow.... Like I said lots of brain power, and yet the solution to a simple task eludes even the most bright...
As for all current reg hacks none of the work on the 8125.
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VJ handled your message quite gentlemanly. I on the other hand think you should take your sense of entitlement elsewhere.
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LOL...I always like messages like this. Yeah, it's a simple task so it must be that these "experts" are all lazy and liars. Takes me back to the old days (yesterday?) when a Pocket PC could do anything a laptop could do but the evil Microsoft hid all the features in the registry. Yep, whatever you say and good luck with that. :lol:
Is there a way to customize comm manager (change from 6 button to 10 or change the buttons--replace data connection with 3G) other than using Advanced Config. I can do it through Advanced Config but wondered whether there was another way to do it on the fly that I am missing. Thx.
Did you try looking into the stickied thread at the top of the forum that has all the cab files??
There's a 10 buttom comm manager right there.
I know. I am looking for a utility that switches from the 10 to the 6 or changes the order of the buttons on the 10 or 6. Maybe I am not explaining it well enough ....
Why would you want to change between the two? The 10 button has it all, including disabling data connection and 3G?
Aesthetics. The 6 button on/off looks good with certain themes/roms. Not a huge issue. I guess not a big demand for it.
If you use Kaiser Tweak you can customize the Comm Manager (doesn't change from 6 to 10 buttons or vice versa) but you can re-order the buttons. Give it a shot.
Got it. Thanks.
... Is there anyone that found a way to make the 10-buttons CommManager "dpad-friendly" ?
It's so annoying : you can navigate the homepage of your PDA with the dpad, and then start the commmanager... and there : you're stuck !
Have to touch the screen to choose any of the items (wireless, data, bluetooth...)
sebbes said:
... Is there anyone that found a way to make the 10-buttons CommManager "dpad-friendly" ?
It's so annoying : you can navigate the homepage of your PDA with the dpad, and then start the commmanager... and there : you're stuck !
Have to touch the screen to choose any of the items (wireless, data, bluetooth...)
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Yeah, because it's SUCH a pain to point your finger at the screen and push.
Wow, it's amazing the things people complain about.
If I took your logic, I would ask why Kaiser has a hard-keyboard ? It's so easy for ppl to press the screen
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I have the aluminum case, and the screen is behind a hardglass !
So you can give a try if you want... but I'd bet your won't even bend the glass.
You didn't say you had a hard case, did ya? I don't have one and I don't know anyone that does. Everyone I know uses the stylus on the screen, just like it's supposed to be used.
Just use AEB to assign a hardkey, I use the windoz logo key, double press toggles BT power, tripple toggles WiFi. You get the picture.
I'll give a try to AEB (my Win button is already reassigned, same for the camera button which triggers the CommMgr...)
Lidberg said:
You didn't say you had a hard case, did ya? I don't have one and I don't know anyone that does. Everyone I know uses the stylus on the screen, just like it's supposed to be used.
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Like I said, why would people buy a phone with real keyboard, as there's already onscreen keyboard... That's exactly same scenario.
My question was not about "how could I reeducate myself", but how to turn this smartphone into something even smarter...
Even the ComMgr on the HTC Tornado can be manager from the joystick... (running WM5)
So it's a shame if HTC did remove this so simple thing as focus-ordered buttons...
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Like I said, why would people buy a phone with real keyboard, as there's already onscreen keyboard... That's exactly same scenario.
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You bought it, didn't you? Why did you buy it? I'll tell you why - it's one thing to have an on screen keyboard, it's a totally different thing to have a real, tactile keyboard with real keys to give your fingers feedback. You're comparing apples and oranges. Your logic doesn't fly with me, sorry. You can't touch-type with an on screen keyboard (i.e. type by feel).
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You bought it, didn't you? Why did you buy it? I'll tell you why - it's one thing to have an on screen keyboard, it's a totally different thing to have a real, tactile keyboard with real keys to give your fingers feedback. You're comparing apples and oranges. Your logic doesn't fly with me, sorry. You can't touch-type with an on screen keyboard (i.e. type by feel).
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WOW. You have been nothing but a condescending prick in every one of you posts on this thread. Sorry you don't like the new kids on your block asking questions. If you don't want to contribute anything in an amicable manner, please, leave us to cry in the corner.
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WOW. You have been nothing but a condescending prick in every one of you posts on this thread. Sorry you don't like the new kids on your block asking questions. If you don't want to contribute anything in an amicable manner, please, leave us to cry in the corner.
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LOL. Thanks for the laugh. You made my night.
The OP had a question, and I answered it. If it's not what he was looking for, then he should learn how to phrase his questions in a better way.
I don't apologize for my wording. I am short and to the point.
Lastly, some people will complain about anything and everything. You can't help that or change that.
Ok fine, so you're apparently upset about people asking for tips & tricks... Then I assume your Kaiser was just perfect as-is right ?
(...so I guess you kept the stock ROM untouched, and didnt apply any of the great XDA-dev patches/fixes then)
Anyone with a more constructive feedback, like maybe importing the CommMgr of a different HTC pdaphone ?
I have the Tilt with the stock AT&T ROM. It does everything I need it to. I have, however, applied many of the tweaks and fixes available here. I ask very few questions and do LOTS of reading. I read almost every thread in this forum looking for little tweaks to make my phone even better than it already is.
I have no problems with people asking questions. That is what this forum is for. What bugs me is people who post the same question over and over without reading ANYTHING. (not that I was referring to you)
I was trying to be a little sarcastic with my first reply, but I guess you took it the wrong way.
So then, if you said I was posting without reading anything ...
Do you mean you were able to find a way ? (finaly we'll get something constructive)
I am not really new to XDA-dev, so I know how searching the place works...
Unfortunately, neither the 6buttons nor the 10buttons CommMgr is able to do (apparently) what I'm trying to get.
Hence the post...
Well I highly doubt that you will be able to switch between the 6 and 10 buttom comm mgr. They are both cab installs and require a SR after install.
What about RemE's suggestion? Did you try that? You could also remap the PTT button.
P.S. I wasn't referring to you when I said people don't read before posting.
I just installed the latest build of PointUI (www.pointui.com) on my TyTN II, and really like the slick interface and touch capability. Anyone else running this app, and if so have you run into any issues? The fact that the software will remain a free product makes it worth the "testing".
Thanks.
James
Theres a couple of threads on this already. I have installed it but my TyTN II locks up every time within 2 minutes of starting, even after a soft-reset so have given up for now.
I may give it another go when they fix all the bugs listed on their forums and add more features to make it more usable and by then hopefully my lockup issues will be solved as well.
I did use it for some days but I hate that the 'close' button is not an actual close button at all. It just minimizes the app instead of closing it. So it is very memory consuming.
But I did like the interface and the way it worked. Just wait a little longer to have them some issues solved.
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
just installed it on my phone and it works for about 2 mins before freezing, once already its reduced my screen to randon red and yellow dots, so thats getting uninstalled.
shame really as the 5 mins i did get to spend playing with it i was quite impressed
or i would if it had a proper uninstaller
very nice!
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
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plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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This is a great update! I didn't like the idea of all my apps running in the background. Thanks for pointing this out.
yay! it lets me get to the hardware buttons!
Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
plexat said:
Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
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No problem. I dont really know how I found it I have a tendancy to go to forums and open all threads that interest me by holding ctrl down and clicking on them. Then I read through and close them as I go.
I just happened to come across the update in one of the threads I was reading! One of the developers had posted a link to the file in the middle of a thread.
diar said:
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
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The cube activating is due to your touchflo config file. All you need to do is edit the config file to exclude pointui and the cube will not activate while pointui is open.
badaccent said:
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
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Where did you get an emulator from, i would be interested in this.
PointUI - some notes
Great app, but the problem is it cannot start my 3G connection when e.g. updating weather, or using update manager.
DAMN!
When I start the connection manually from normal WM6 interface, it works then, but it's annoying...
Any help with this?
Thanks,
Gabriel
You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
I'm note sure I would pay $100 for the UI, but I do agree that this is exactly what Windows Mobile needs. Overall function is great and with just a few minor fixes/changes this would be the killer app for any WM device.
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You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
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I cannot agree more than what you say. HTC is a superb tool designed by engineers with some "help" from designer people. I love it, but my god the interface is sometimes not sexy at all (just compare the icons of pointui as an exemple
Iphone is a superb tool made by designers. I love it from a purely design point of view, but it lacks a lot of things engineers love (openness, 3G+, GPS, etc.)
Now the TYTNII plus a pointUI type interface would be the top must. The very few minutes I spent with pointUI, I loved it. I will keep it as soon as it really work and have more customization.
Now, I am sticked to HTC, because it is quite easier to adapt a new interface to an existing device, than the contrary
Thx
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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Read the uninstall instructions on the PointUI forums.
leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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I had the same.. fairly easy to fix:
get yourself a registry editor (PHM for example)
navigate to: \HKCU\software\microsoft\today\keys\112
change: Default string to 'phone' (from Home)
change: Open string to '\windows\cprog.exe'
then i'd do a soft reset.
should work..
hth.
I searched but couldn't find anything about this app here so I thought I'd start a thread. If I missed it, please redirect me.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.lucid.qwerty
Has anyone else bought and installed this? When I saw it I didn't hesitate, just bought it because of all of Lucid's other work. No it's not a finished product -- as he says in the product listing, it's a work in progress and he's quite open to suggestions, revising it pretty much daily since it appeared.
The way it works is this: most keys have two letters on them and this lets him make each key larger than the keys on the standard keyboards. To get the 1st character, press once, to get the 2nd character, quick press the key twice. You may notice there's no left or right parenthesis - in the current version (1.51.06), while there's no hint on the keyfaces, you can long-press quite a few of the keys and you'll get alternate text. For instance, long-pressing the "jk" key will give you "(" and "l" will give you ")". I bought it and am keeping it because
1) I like to support active developers
2) I like to help shape an app -- Lucid responds quickly and well to suggestions and bug reports
Do I have it set as my default input method? No. But I use it regularly cuz, well, my fingers are big and it's easier to work with two letters per key than 3
I'll post some screenshots when I get a chance (unless someone else beats me to it).
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I searched but couldn't find anything about this app here so I thought I'd start a thread. If I missed it, please redirect me.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.lucid.qwerty
Has anyone else bought and installed this? When I saw it I didn't hesitate, just bought it because of all of Lucid's other work. No it's not a finished product -- as he says in the product listing, it's a work in progress and he's quite open to suggestions, revising it pretty much daily since it appeared.
The way it works is this: most keys have two letters on them and this lets him make each key larger than the keys on the standard keyboards. To get the 1st character, press once, to get the 2nd character, quick press the key twice. You may notice there's no left or right parenthesis - in the current version (1.51.06), while there's no hint on the keyfaces, you can long-press quite a few of the keys and you'll get alternate text. For instance, long-pressing the "jk" key will give you "(" and "l" will give you ")". I bought it and am keeping it because
1) I like to support active developers
2) I like to help shape an app -- Lucid responds quickly and well to suggestions and bug reports
Do I have it set as my default input method? No. But I use it regularly cuz, well, my fingers are big and it's easier to work with two letters per key than 3
I'll post some screenshots when I get a chance (unless someone else beats me to it).
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Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
not cool to be cheap!
turboyo said:
Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
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I wholeheartedly agree with short/y's post. I really can contribute much to the community in yearned of developing so when I c a fellow xda members app in the market I buy. Sometimes I use it some times I dnt. I do it as a way of giving back to my fellow members of xda!
turboyo said:
Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
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Dude, the developers of HTC's IME aren't reading XDA nor is there any meaningful way to influence their development on a daily basis. The CooTek offering is a different story -- I was a beta tester before they released and I've used their keyboard on Windows Mobile every since -- they're good and they listen.
BUT, Lucid's HERE and listens on a daily basis. You can directly influence how it looks and how it works today. If you're not interested, that's OK. But Lucid's demonstrated time and again that he's interested in furthering Android and the community in general so I'm supporting it and him. That doesn't mean I can't support other methods, too.
100 USD PRIZE MONEY
Dear All,
I love my X1. The only thing I am not happy with is the (lack of) tactile feedback on the Hardware Keyboard of the X1. As there is little to no 'feel' to when you press the hardware keys I
There is an application out there from Snailslug which produces a small vibration whenever the touchscreen keyboard is pressed... see the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
Now I am looking for the same thing with the HW keyboard. If anyone out there is up to creating an application (with a very small footprint) that produces a small vibration (around 25ms) after each key on the hardware keyboard is pressed, I will give that person 100 USD as a big thank you. To make it fair, here are the rules:
- Deadline: 15th of August (not that someone comes two years later and wants a prize for an application I dont need anymore
- First application that does not slow down my X1 and provides the requested result will be rewarded
Thanks and all the best,
very smart but its a shame others will use the app and wont pay. surely the guy/ lady who makes this should keep it just for you unless you dont mind.
LET THE GAMES BEGIN
I dont mind if the developer 'shares' it with others. My only suggestion would be for him to charge a small 'fee', the proceeds of which (or at least a part of it) could be donated to the xda developers site. I have had 6 or 7 HTC phones and have been getting tips and help from day one. This site is so underrated and helpful. Those maintaining need the support
WDM said:
100 USD PRIZE MONEY
Dear All,
I love my X1. The only thing I am not happy with is the (lack of) tactile feedback on the Hardware Keyboard of the X1. As there is little to no 'feel' to when you press the hardware keys I
There is an application out there from Snailslug which produces a small vibration whenever the touchscreen keyboard is pressed... see the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
Now I am looking for the same thing with the HW keyboard. If anyone out there is up to creating an application (with a very small footprint) that produces a small vibration (around 25ms) after each key on the hardware keyboard is pressed, I will give that person 100 USD as a big thank you. To make it fair, here are the rules:
- Deadline: 15th of August (not that someone comes two years later and wants a prize for an application I dont need anymore
- First application that does not slow down my X1 and provides the requested result will be rewarded
Thanks and all the best,
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I'm pretty sure you could just write up a macro with MortScript.? if not I could write something up but I'm sure someone will by the time I do.(I'm on vacation and didn't bring my pc)
Hi ibeQuint, would be great if you could come up with something. Enjoy your vacation
thanks for the questions. for most of you programmers this shouldnt be a problem to come up with the vibration app. good luck and keep it up
WDM said:
100 USD PRIZE MONEY
Dear All,
I love my X1. The only thing I am not happy with is the (lack of) tactile feedback on the Hardware Keyboard of the X1. As there is little to no 'feel' to when you press the hardware keys I
There is an application out there from Snailslug which produces a small vibration whenever the touchscreen keyboard is pressed... see the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
Now I am looking for the same thing with the HW keyboard. If anyone out there is up to creating an application (with a very small footprint) that produces a small vibration (around 25ms) after each key on the hardware keyboard is pressed, I will give that person 100 USD as a big thank you. To make it fair, here are the rules:
- Deadline: 15th of August (not that someone comes two years later and wants a prize for an application I dont need anymore
- First application that does not slow down my X1 and provides the requested result will be rewarded
Thanks and all the best,
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REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\KeyState]
"KeyVibratorState"=dword:00000000