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Java & PQzII with Kaiser.....need help...Menneisyys where are you??!!

Hi all.
Of late I deceided to try out some QVGA Java games on my Kaiser and I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised at the sheer quality and volume of the midlets available.
Now my Kaiser can run most of them without issue using the D-pad in portrait mode (Landscape is not an option as the Games are 240x320!), but I have come across many games that really do need the use of more of the phone pad buttons i.e. we have buttons 2,4,6 and 8 for directional movement (in most games) with number 5, being the Action key..great! But in many of the more advanced games, one really needs access to some of the numbers (0,1,3,7 & 9)and or characters (* & #).
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In short, after reading Menneisyys's incredibly detailed and informative 'Button Enhancer Bible & great button config tips for Opera Mobile / Mini users', I am still no closer to understanding how to map and hardware buttons to application specific PQzII vitual buttons.
I really need some help here if there are any gurus here in this department.
I must stress the importance of this for me. I love the polished look and feel of Java games over the purpose built Pocket PC games and also love how virtually most apps are less than 1/2 a megabyte!!
Space saver or what? Besides my 2 children both have the HTC Wizard and are desperately wanting Dad to get this sorted...so please help an old fella out or take pity on my kids who are currently Javaless. lol.
No seriously any help is truly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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I'm not aware of any guides - the one coming with PQzII is pretty bad. Moreover, the GUI isn't really intuitive, unless you already know some other button enhancer tool. However, if you just play with PQzII, you'll surely learn it. It took me too some half an hour to learn its GUI.
Let me know if you don't succeed at it and I post a more detailed review as soon as I have some free time. (Dunno when - I'm very-very busy.)

Menneisyys said:
I'm not aware of any guides - the one coming with PQzII is pretty bad. Moreover, the GUI isn't really intuitive, unless you already know some other button enhancer tool. However, if you just play with PQzII, you'll surely learn it. It took me too some half an hour to learn its GUI.
Let me know if you don't succeed at it and I post a more detailed review as soon as I have some free time. (Dunno when - I'm very-very busy.)
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Oh well...not to worry. I'll keep at it. Thank you very much for replying though, it's appreciated.
For anyone else interested, Vito Button Mapper is supposed to be the best application for application specific button mapping...so I'm trying the trial version of that too. If anyone knows how to get this going foe Opera mini too, that would be great. Cheers.

Vibrating feedback on screen taps

Hi to the community, and great thanks to all the developers that help us polish our raw diamonds and make them shine ;-)
I love the phone, really the first usable device without keyboard that relies on dialling via virtual keyboard. Still have the Samsung Armani thing here waiting to go on Ebay...
What I would wish for (and couldn't find anywhere in a couple days of searching the web for it) is a tool that makes the device vibrate when you tap the screen, especially in number/letter entry situations, so that you have a tactile feedback on whether it has registered a keypress.
I would also love to be able to use the g sensor to flip the TouchFlo3D left and right...
If anybody else would like these two things added to the device, or if anyone knows if they already exist, please let me know.
take care
abel

Bump.
Anyone knows how to get vibrate feedback?
Greetings.

I'd like to see this actually, not for every screentap though just for using soft keyboard, it'd be nice to have a bit of feedback (it'd have to be near instant though for it to not annoy).
If only I knew how to go about writing a Windows Mobile app =']

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412491
allready under discussion...

Vibration Feedback

TO DEVELOPERS:
Do anyone think to develop a vibrating feedback system on touch, such as samsung omnia or other samsung touch screen? it should bee useful for sms and call sending...

I agree!! Would be really usefull!

i agree as well it isnt very difficult as someone did do it on my n95

Yeah would be really great!!

I like this idea but I imagine it would be a battery drain.
You would be better off sticking with sound until a more bulletproof batter is invented.

bullet proof batter - now thats gonna be a tough pancake

in polaris thread there was a program called VOA.exe this program makes it possible when u press akey or button or letter the phone vibrates and also its simple to use !! u can download it from here:
http://mahmood1.com/Documents/vibrate.rar
afer downloading unrar and put it in anywhere and make a shortcut in windows/startup folder and restart device or start the VOA.exe. if u don't like just delete the link in startup folder and thats it !! its only 2 KB !!

Has anybody tested this software for Diamond?
I will try and give feedback....
Gerry

HTC said they tried this (haptic feedback) and it sucked, so I don't think we need to doubt them.

it work on my diamond , vibration is strong too

It works, but I really don't like it, I found it too strong

Yeah it works, but maybe the application needs to be re-programmed a bit.
Are there any programmers that could do this? Options like:
- simple but usable interface
- Duration settings
- Strongness settings
- Choose which application must have vibration feedback
would be nice.

damn that's just plain awful to have running. Thank god that HTC decided not to include that on the Diamond.
(PS: the implementation on Omnia is way better than this one though, but still annoying).

Mahmood said:
in polaris thread there was a program called VOA.exe this program makes it possible when u press akey or button or letter the phone vibrates and also its simple to use !! u can download it from here:
http://mahmood1.com/Documents/vibrate.rar
afer downloading unrar and put it in anywhere and make a shortcut in windows/startup folder and restart device or start the VOA.exe. if u don't like just delete the link in startup folder and thats it !! its only 2 KB !!
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it was not a bad program, at least the author got the right direction. It only needs some polish:
Instead of hooking onto the screen touch event, the vibration should be active by "focus" and "unfocus" events. Anyone one has played Wii will know, when the onscreen pointer focus to a new target(button) the little internal motor vibrate a tiny bit, just enough to let the user to know "yes, you hit the right spot"

mayby it's just a matter of tweaking... just try the Teeter -game, theres quite good feedback from the ball.

ArtoD2 said:
mayby it's just a matter of tweaking... just try the Teeter -game, theres quite good feedback from the ball.
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yes, u are right.

ArtoD2 said:
mayby it's just a matter of tweaking... just try the Teeter -game, theres quite good feedback from the ball.
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I had try it.... feeling is good....
but how is the tweaking to be done???
any idea???

I think some of you guys started bashing this program too soon... sure, the vibration feedback in this case is annoying and sure enough puts quite a load on the battery because of the long vibration.
But, on the other hand, I used to have a "force feedback" mouse years ago, it had a small vibration motor just like our phones do, and it was AMAZING - you could FEEL window boundaries, buttons, even textures! If it was possible to make the Diamond vibrate just a tiny little bit, similar to what Teeter does, it could give a feedback close to how it feels to press a button.
Think about Teeter, you could imagine there's a tiny hard rubber ball inside the device with your eyes closed.
If there was a configurable, fast, memory-efficient vibration feedback I would pay money for it. The key issue is responsiveness, the vibration HAS TO occur immediately when the keypress or screen tap is registered, otherwise this haptic feedback feels way more sluggish than a visual feedback that comes a tenth of a second too late.
Please, programmers, do something, I lack time, experience and Visual Studio to do it myself.

I think some of you guys started bashing this program too soon... sure, the vibration feedback in this case is annoying and sure enough puts quite a load on the battery because of the long vibration.
But, on the other hand, I used to have a "force feedback" mouse years ago, it had a small vibration motor just like our phones do, and it was AMAZING - you could FEEL window boundaries, buttons, even textures! If it was possible to make the Diamond vibrate just a tiny little bit, similar to what Teeter does, it could give a feedback close to how it feels to press a button.
Think about Teeter, you could imagine there's a tiny hard rubber ball inside the device with your eyes closed.
If there was a configurable, fast, memory-efficient vibration feedback I would pay money for it. The key issue is responsiveness, the vibration HAS TO occur immediately when the keypress or screen tap is registered, otherwise this haptic feedback feels way more sluggish than a visual feedback that comes a tenth of a second too late.
Please, programmers, do something, I lack time, experience and Visual Studio to do it myself.

Only hooking the keys is possible on Windows Mobile.
So it is not possible to hook the mouse (touch on the touchscreen)...

Lucid REM's keyboard

I searched but couldn't find anything about this app here so I thought I'd start a thread. If I missed it, please redirect me.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.lucid.qwerty
Has anyone else bought and installed this? When I saw it I didn't hesitate, just bought it because of all of Lucid's other work. No it's not a finished product -- as he says in the product listing, it's a work in progress and he's quite open to suggestions, revising it pretty much daily since it appeared.
The way it works is this: most keys have two letters on them and this lets him make each key larger than the keys on the standard keyboards. To get the 1st character, press once, to get the 2nd character, quick press the key twice. You may notice there's no left or right parenthesis - in the current version (1.51.06), while there's no hint on the keyfaces, you can long-press quite a few of the keys and you'll get alternate text. For instance, long-pressing the "jk" key will give you "(" and "l" will give you ")". I bought it and am keeping it because
1) I like to support active developers
2) I like to help shape an app -- Lucid responds quickly and well to suggestions and bug reports
Do I have it set as my default input method? No. But I use it regularly cuz, well, my fingers are big and it's easier to work with two letters per key than 3
I'll post some screenshots when I get a chance (unless someone else beats me to it).

short/y said:
I searched but couldn't find anything about this app here so I thought I'd start a thread. If I missed it, please redirect me.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.lucid.qwerty
Has anyone else bought and installed this? When I saw it I didn't hesitate, just bought it because of all of Lucid's other work. No it's not a finished product -- as he says in the product listing, it's a work in progress and he's quite open to suggestions, revising it pretty much daily since it appeared.
The way it works is this: most keys have two letters on them and this lets him make each key larger than the keys on the standard keyboards. To get the 1st character, press once, to get the 2nd character, quick press the key twice. You may notice there's no left or right parenthesis - in the current version (1.51.06), while there's no hint on the keyfaces, you can long-press quite a few of the keys and you'll get alternate text. For instance, long-pressing the "jk" key will give you "(" and "l" will give you ")". I bought it and am keeping it because
1) I like to support active developers
2) I like to help shape an app -- Lucid responds quickly and well to suggestions and bug reports
Do I have it set as my default input method? No. But I use it regularly cuz, well, my fingers are big and it's easier to work with two letters per key than 3
I'll post some screenshots when I get a chance (unless someone else beats me to it).
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Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..

not cool to be cheap!
turboyo said:
Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
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I wholeheartedly agree with short/y's post. I really can contribute much to the community in yearned of developing so when I c a fellow xda members app in the market I buy. Sometimes I use it some times I dnt. I do it as a way of giving back to my fellow members of xda!

turboyo said:
Dude htc ime has that option, its compact qwerty instead of qwerty, works real well, its free, and its probably just as good as the iPhone keyboard when it come to correction and all that.. but hey if you want to support the dev cool but it looks like his idea is a little to expensive in a market where that already exist, to little to late.. also the new touchpal keyboard has the same option and i believe theres a free beta..
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Dude, the developers of HTC's IME aren't reading XDA nor is there any meaningful way to influence their development on a daily basis. The CooTek offering is a different story -- I was a beta tester before they released and I've used their keyboard on Windows Mobile every since -- they're good and they listen.
BUT, Lucid's HERE and listens on a daily basis. You can directly influence how it looks and how it works today. If you're not interested, that's OK. But Lucid's demonstrated time and again that he's interested in furthering Android and the community in general so I'm supporting it and him. That doesn't mean I can't support other methods, too.

$ 100 Reward for Vibration Application for Hardware Keyboard

Hardware Keyboard - $ 100 Reward
100 USD PRIZE MONEY
Dear All,
I love my X1. The only thing I am not happy with is the (lack of) tactile feedback on the Hardware Keyboard of the X1. As there is little to no 'feel' to when you press the hardware keys.
There is an application out there from Snailslug which produces a small vibration whenever the touchscreen keyboard is pressed... see the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450256
Now I am looking for the same thing with the HW keyboard. If anyone out there is up to creating an application (with a very small footprint) that produces a small vibration (around 25ms) after each key on the hardware keyboard is pressed, I will give that person 100 USD as a big thank you. To make it fair, here are the rules:
- Deadline: 31st of August (not that someone comes two years later and wants a prize for an application I dont need anymore
- First application that does not slow down my X1 and provides the requested result will be rewarded
Thanks and all the best,

why did you open a new thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544306

He want to pay a total reward of $200... I guess...
Or not?

the reward is $100. this thread was created as the last title wasn't 'clear enough' as to what the subject is about. good luck with the application. 100 bucks are waiting

go to advanced edit and change the title of the thread if thats all u wanted to change btw

Next time I know ;-)

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Was anyone able to come up with an application? Shouldnt be that difficult for those that are able to programm

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Maybe this will work...
If so, I want my 100 USD!

casklaverstijn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425063
Maybe this will work...
If so, I want my 100 USD!
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That's different. He wants feedback for when the hardware keyboard is pressed, not the screen.

Features:
- Vibrate always on touch events (mouse down, or mouse up)
- Vibrate only if SIP is active
- Vibrate on Key press (hardware keys)
- Adjustable vibration (duration in ms)
- configuration over command line parameters
- fully event based, so only battery consumption while vibrating
- No runtimes needed (pure C++ application)
- Works with WM 5+ (not 2003)
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I think this will do it, but i think the dev has stopt al long time ago. But it has the features WDM wants.

Oh..the 100USD is for the Developer...lol

this should be entirely possible and maybe even easy to do, IMO

matthewpapa said:
this should be entirely possible and maybe even easy to do, IMO
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so expect an app from you then?

Actually I'm not sure this is that easy to do at all.
I thought ok I'll take a look so created a new device application in visual studio, getting the device to vibrate is easy, this is well documented.
Trapping key events when you have a form / control with focus is also easy. The problem comes when you want to trap key events without having a form or focus.
I've read several posts online pointing to coredll.dll, but nothing definitive.

Lol you need a hook. Sure this exists on WinMo just like on desktop Win.

Great comments guys. Looks like there are at least a few willing to put some thought and effort in this. any chance of one of you coming up with the application anytime soon?

Firefall! said:
Lol you need a hook. Sure this exists on WinMo just like on desktop Win.
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I know I need a hook, which hook, which dll, documented where, that being my point.
I'll have another look at this tonight.

richard.ian.brown said:
I know I need a hook, which hook, which dll, documented where, that being my point.
I'll have another look at this tonight.
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You never stated so. There is not much to such a hook actually I would create the app myself if I had the means. That's about 5 lines of code, just make the device shake and pass the key on. The only trouble you will run into is that the keys seem to be hooked already, so you have to make sure you don't mess with that and prioritize your function.

Thanks Firewall. Is there anyone out there that would be able to write a few lines of code. It appears to be simple enough, if you can programm (which I cannot) which is why i am asking the pros here ;-)