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Sending phone back to t-mobile...

My phone is malfunctioning, before sending it in to get it replaced, does anyone know if I have to unroot and flash a tmobile rom back to the phone? Or will I be fine? If this has been covered before sorry, flame away, just point me in the right direction because I have searched here and google for a good 2 hours now.

Unroot your phone.

It has been asked before but hey, this is a Q&A forum :].
If you're turning it in with the manufactur's warrenty, then yes, you want to unroot it. If you're turning it in through T-Mobile's phone insurence (recommended) then you will not need to unroot it; that's a no-questions-asked service. Good luck!

alritewhadeva said:
Unroot your phone.
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Do this just for safety's sake, wouldn't it suck to send it in only to find out your warranty won't cover it just because it was rooted? I mean, all you have to do is flash the RC29 over again and wait for the OTA update to come and its as easy as that... you don't even need the OTA update... just flash the RC29 and you should be good.

Or if you want to be eccentric, brick it and say after you got an OTA update it wouldn't turn on

alritewhadeva said:
Or if you want to be eccentric, brick it and say after you got an OTA update it wouldn't turn on [/QUOTE
how can i brick it?
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downgrade the radio if you have the haykuro spl or pull out the battery while its flashing something

xsnipuhx said:
downgrade the radio if you have the haykuro spl or pull out the battery while its flashing something
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Haha - I'd say that's a little more sketchy than just returning to RC29.
But your choice.

akapoor said:
Haha - I'd say that's a little more sketchy than just returning to RC29.
But your choice.
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True, but he wanted to know how to brick

xsnipuhx said:
True, but he wanted to know how to brick
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Well if all else fails its good to have a plan to fall back on...

Advantages of 1.33.2005?

I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?

xsnipuhx said:
I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
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You can run Cyan on HardSPL or even the stock SPL. You only need the Haykuro SPL for more internal storage space for the OS in the phone, which allows for bigger ROMs to be used. It will also give you adequate space for whatever you may want on your phones internal memory

Well I am running HardSPL atm, but Hero kind of intrigues me and I wouldnt mind trying it out. But if really doesn't help out that much, I guess I'm going to stick with my setup right now. ty B-man0007

Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.

h.nocturna said:
Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
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I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.

xsnipuhx said:
I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
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Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)

B-man007 said:
Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
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You sir make a good point, I think I'll be staying at the HardSPL then.

If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...

h.nocturna said:
If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
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Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide

Haykuro's SPL is my favorite, because all that extra space makes things run much faster, on top of giving more room to Cache's if you have Apps2SD. Big time themes also fit onto it, and if you follow instructions closely, should have no problem installing it.

xsnipuhx said:
Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
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I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens

h.nocturna said:
I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
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I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!

lukekirstein said:
I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
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I'm running JacHero 2.5 w/o Rosie and my friend is using Cy and he was the one that pointed out myne may be even faster and he on Cy 3.6.7.2. That was from his mouth not mine. Not to mention There's now a go around to make sure you get EVERY text message on Hero so you never have to miss another one again

so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?

xsnipuhx said:
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
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If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!

AdrianK said:
If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
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Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?

you can still brick your phone even if you do everything right
xsnipuhx said:
Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
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It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?

I'm actually in the middle of backing up my SD card and setting up another SD card with the SPL update on it then I'm going to flash it. put the cyanogen rom on my partitioned card and hope everything goes smooth, ill report back when I'm done. Anyone know how to flash my EXT2 partition so i can start fresh?

ei8htohms said:
It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
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haha ya as soon as i heard cyan bricked it i wouldn't touch the dangerspl. thats when i stopped reading all the threads to insure i didn't get a brick lol
but he did flash the dangerspl after people said that it wouldnt flash with his recovery just to test it... so theirs still a chance i might do it lol
please note that there are apparently different versions of the 26I radio. Make sure you flash the one haykuro posted for safetys sake

Should I wipe before I flash the Radio and stuff from haykuros google page?

need help recovering G1

okay i really need some help.
ive tried all the steps to recover my phone.
i get to the g1 screen when i power it up.
i can still get in to recovery menu.
ive tried to do a wipe.
please i need help.
ive also tried reinstalling rc29 with the original spl
but my radio is still 2_22_19_26I
PLEASE I NEED HELP!
or if there is a way that i can make it look like i never touched it then im still able to return it
so anything would help. links also

if you put the DREAIMG.nbh on your phone via bootloader it will reset the radio and spl to stock and everything else will be stock so that you can return the phone as though you never did anything to it

sweet. i guess i cant fix my phone. good thing i only got it 3 days ago.
whats a good thing to tell them when returning my phone?

G-Fetus6 said:
sweet. i guess i cant fix my phone. good thing i only got it 3 days ago.
whats a good thing to tell them when returning my phone?
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if your phone is not messed up then there is no reason to return it. if you keep it at stock rc29 then it will update to 1.5 firmware within 72 hours supposedly or if you still want root follow these steps in this thread. this is the probably the most reliable way to root your phone, and since it is not as automated as some of the other threads, you might learn some things about your phone in the process http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

david1171 said:
if your phone is not messed up then there is no reason to return it. if you keep it at stock rc29 then it will update to 1.5 firmware within 72 hours supposedly or if you still want root follow these steps in this thread. this is the probably the most reliable way to root your phone, and since it is not as automated as some of the other threads, you might learn some things about your phone in the process http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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well the thing is im stuck at the G1 boot screen.
and cant get it to do anything after that.
so i might as well save me time and just return it tomorrow

G-Fetus6 said:
well the thing is im stuck at the G1 boot screen.
and cant get it to do anything after that.
so i might as well save me time and just return it tomorrow
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do you have a modified recovery image on the phone or were you able to get that far. if not just take it by where you got it and tell them you got an ota update then wouldn't boot up past the g1 screen

david1171 said:
do you have a modified recovery image on the phone or were you able to get that far. if not just take it by where you got it and tell them you got an ota update then wouldn't boot up past the g1 screen
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i got that it back to looking stock. so that is better if they try to do a hard reset for me.
yeah ill just tell them that an ota did it. cuz the phone is only 3 days old so im sure theyll say "oh yeah it must of been cupcake"
thanks

danger spl D=

i had to reroot my phone because somehow i lost the recovery image and it wouldnt let me flash anything
so i went re did everything
and i put the danger spl on here and now its stuck at the Tmobile G1 screen
am i screwed or is there something that i can do

Did you flash the radio first?

no
i didnt i couldnt remember which one was first

Remember when you flash the new spl you HAVE TO flash the rom again after it. Did you do that?

it doesnt even let me get to the recovery image to do that i had just flashed to jf 1.51 btw

roguestatuskat said:
no
i didnt i couldnt remember which one was first
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if you can't boot into recovery (home and power) or bootloader (camera and power) then your phone is bricked. you can either call your provider or htc and say something about an update, and see if you can get a replacement phone.

can i just go to the tmo store tomarrow? and then they can just give me a new one?

roguestatuskat said:
can i just go to the tmo store tomarrow? and then they can just give me a new one?
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you could try it, sometimes it is better over the phone, but you can try in store.
make sure you sound as dumb as possible, like you don't know anything about xda, rooting, flashing, brick, or anything technical. just say something about an update, then afterward it started back up, that it wouldn't boot.

im mexican so i can be all like
i was like eschool nd then the thing was like update nd i turn off pero no turn back on
phone or Tmo store which one is faster?

roguestatuskat said:
im mexican so i can be all like
i was like eschool nd then the thing was like update nd i turn off pero no turn back on
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haha, i imagine that one would work

hopefully very well

The same exact thing happened to me a few monthes back, I called them and after some bs story they sent out a replacement phone. Then once you get the replacement, you just put your original phone back in the box and ship it back to them.

I have been able to replace a g1 in the store. Just don't take no for an answer. And if you have to take a hostage.

supremeteam256 said:
I have been able to replace a g1 in the store. Just don't take no for an answer. And if you have to take a hostage.
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hahahahaha
but seriously though, you should try a little harder before resorting to re-rooting. You know that it may not always be possible to fall back to RC29 if HTC decides to change the keys, right? You should learn how to troubleshoot so you wont have to resort to that

damnit google, just give us root and this wont happen

roguestatuskat said:
damnit google, just give us root and this wont happen
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lmfao they have. it costs $424 + shipping
google android developer phone

sorry google i apologize despite your cockliness towards cyanogen
what i meant to say is damnit Tmobile give us all dev phones

Rooted phones would do more harm than good to the average user...
As for your situation, does holding the Camera or Home key not boot you into SPL or recovery, respectively?
It's likely than when you went back to RC29 to reroot, your radio is reverted back along with it, and then you flashed the dangerSPL to brick your phone.

cigar3tte said:
Rooted phones would do more harm than good to the average user...
As for your situation, does holding the Camera or Home key not boot you into SPL or recovery, respectively?
It's likely than when you went back to RC29 to reroot, your radio is reverted back along with it, and then you flashed the dangerSPL to brick your phone.
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flashing the DangerSPL then the RC29 image should have any detrimental affect on the phone. People has successfully downgraded directly to RC29 with success.
I've read many posts to that extent, but I cannot be 100% as I haven't done it myself

OMG I just flashed my SPL Before my radio >.<!!!!

I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????

what radio did you have? if it was the latest radio to begin with, you are all good. if not, you probably screwed the pooch

Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<

Why is it that every other day someone starts a new thread on bricking their phone?!?! SEARCH! Either way you have a brand new paperweight...I suggest to all that brick their phones...DON'T MONKEY WITH IT! Get a new phone and stick with stock. Cheers

Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
matthenry87 said:
Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<
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matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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You should return that phone anyway, the Nexus or some new andro with snap dragon will be released or maybe phone with sense?
Seems you lack common-sense for doing what you did. When you think about it that spl is only for spec roms, so things like cyan dont need it.

bestwebs said:
Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
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Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.

matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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i tells you what you can do. this worked for me. i did the same **** on my replacement g1. i said "when i got the replacement it was running 1.1. i was prompted to update, and i did so. when the phone rebooted it never went past the g1 screen. u have to make big stink about this
i did that and they shipped me one next day air. being that that was the third replacement they sent me within 1 week, and i never had to make an embarrassing thread about bricking my phone

Thanks b0ricuaguerrero that makes me feel a lot better about the phone call I'm bout to make to T-Mobile.
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P

matthenry87 said:
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
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I agree. I very nearly bricked my phone when first I flashed the new spl. Back then, I was using the old CM recovery (where you had to rename to update.zip), and flashed the update, then renamed the spl, and was about to flash it, but then something told me to double-check... and I realized that the first update I flashed was not the latest radio, but was, in fact, a different update.zip. I was one click away from brick. The thing is, you don't have to be an idiot to brick when you play on XDA.
matthenry87 said:
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
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You SHOULD suggest that idea to Amon-RA about the reminder for anything with spl in it. Sounds stupid, and sure, idiots shouldn't root their phones, but they do. It would certainly help keep the forums cleaner.
matthenry87 said:
I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P
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Thank you, times a million, for not posting in Development!

HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
pjcforpres said:
Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.
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bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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He flashed the spl BEFORE the radio, that always causes a brick, no questions asked. If you flash the spl wrong you cannot get into the OS, Recovery, or Bootloader- essentially you have a very nice paperweight that has a very nice screen

bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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And what exactly does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
OP, really am sorry to hear you made a mistake you knew better than. Hopefully you can get T-Mo to replace it for you using the "failed update" method.