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Hi,
I've had my Tilt for about a month and a half now. I've taken very good care of it (or so i thought) and have never dropped it and actually keep it in a digital camera case when i carry it around.... anyways, the other day i noticed that when i pressed down on the OK softkey on the front of my tilt, it actually had a double-click "ability" just like the camera button on the side of teh device... a softer push on the OK softkey just activates the OK feature.. but if i press down just a little bit harder, the OK key actually activates the End Call feature, i know this b/c i can hear the same beep when pressing down on the OK key that i hear when i press the end call key from the home screen... ive also tried it during a call and it does end the call as well...
anyways, i went down to my local at&t to see if i could get it replaced, well they gave me the number to call since its been over a month... now i came home and started reading about how at&t just sends u a refurb... and with all the random bugs these things can have... im wondering if i should just suck it up and keep the Tilt i have... rather than take the chance with a refurb from at&t. I found numerous posts where people had to send back their refurbs 5 or 6 times until they got one that didnt have some quirky problem...
The button problem hasn't really bothered me or caused any problems, other than the fact that its a 1 and a half month old $400 device....
I would like to get some oppinions from people on what to do in my situation.. is getting an at&t refurb worth the risk? Other than this button thing, my i've had no other problems with my Tilt.
Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated...
Thanks much,
Shane
So just to confirm... the OK button Ends a call when pressed in fully?
yes, that is exactly right.. so i mean it really only would affect me if i was using the speakerphone and going through menus.. i guess it could accidentally end the call...
no recommendations?
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Hi:
Here is my 2 cents. I had a problem with my Tilt's speaker phone. I called and they sent me a NEW one (not refurb). The new one still had the same problem. Called again, and got another new one (not a refurb). Still had the same problem. I ended up keeping my original phone, because if I was going to be stuck with the bad speakerphone anyway, I figured I'd keep the phone I already have configured to my liking. I may one day call and try another one, since as I said I still have the original problem, but for now am sick of talking to warranty replacement department lol. They are actually pretty nice and helpful, much more so than in other departments, but there is ALWAYS time to wait on hold.
So, nice story, but here's my advice. I honestly don't think AT&T has refurbs yet. I think the phone is so new they are still sending out new replacemt units. At least that was my experience. One of the two replcaements even came in the full retail packaging, so I now have 2 batteries, 2 chargers etc...
I say you have nothing to lose, call them, and have them send you a replacement. If you don't like it/think it's buggy. or simply decide to keep your original, just send them back the replacement. I specifically asked if this was allowed, and they told me that as long as they get back a phone, it doesn't matter which on it is.
thats a great idea, thanks for the background info.. ill def give this a try.. like u said if i dont like the one i get ill just send it back. Thanks again.
so i can press the ok key on my tilt and if i press it with the meat of my thumb it will only click once, if i press it with the tip of my thumb (meat and fingernail), i do get the second click from the end key. the windows key does not do this with the talk key. without opening it up i would say its a design issue with the phone, and replacing it wont matter. i wonder if the real kaisers do this? or if its a design change in the tilt.
Photon, that is EXACTLY the problem i am having.. literally the way u described it with the thumb/fingernail is just how mine acts.. i wonder if this is indeed a problem that many of the tilts have...?
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Photon, that is EXACTLY the problem i am having.. literally the way u described it with the thumb/fingernail is just how mine acts.. i wonder if this is indeed a problem that many of the tilts have...?
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I have a Tilt, and I tried to reproduce this, but it didn't seem to do it for me. Of course I should add, I am a female, so my hands are probably much smaller than the gentlemen here
You're probably pressing the End button since they have the same cap.
Yeah I never really had a problem with it, but mine does the same thing. Just try to press the bottom of the ok button. It only seems to happen when I press it near the top. Whenever I end up opening my tilt I will rig it, but I'm not gonna open it just to fix this small issue.
I just realize that mine does the same thing.But I need to pres it with a really heavy preasure so its not gona happen by accident. Look like you guys are little bit stronger with your fingers
just wanted to say thanks again to everyone else thats replied.. it seems like this is indeed somewhat of a common problem, but like a few of you have said.. i prob just noticed it b/c i just happen to push down really hard on it one time, and ever since then its just bothered me... anyways, i do appreciate everyones replys/comments.
Thanks!
Hi folks
I'm wondering if my Kaiser is defective somehow. On occasions, during phonecalls, people are complaining about not being able to hear me loud enough, then after a few seconds they can hear me loud and clear again, without me doing anything.
This happens to almost every phonecall I make, which makes my skin crawl each time, as I'm afraid I could be using an expensive, yet defective Kaiser
Has anyone else experienced this, and if so found a solution?
Thanks for your interest!
Possible App conflict
I encounter the same problem and found out that a 3rd party application (resco audio recorder) is the culprit. Aparrently I enabled an option to record all voice calls and in effect, causes the 3rd party not to hear me. maybe you have the same issues
Try uninstalling any applications that might use the built in microphone and try.
Otherwise, you could have a defective Kaiser.
Try a different radio.
i have the same problem too. What is the best radio to use???
Doesn't upgrading the radio require a ROM update?
Upgrading the radio does indeed require a ROM update, but this is not the same part of the ROM as you would flash for example the AT&T or Dutty's latest to. You can change the radio ROM independantly of the 'application' ROM.
For my personally, the .17 radio ROM seems to work best, but others feel .31 feels best for them. You will have to consult the radio ROM thread (Kaiser -> Upgrading) for further information as to how to change them, and which ROM is compatible with your system.
EDIT: Note that this may or may not help with your issue, I simply do not know and you will have to try it yourself. It's just a suggestion that may fix this issue for you.
well why the hell cannot HTC do this at factory??? they really are dumb arses.
i dont expect to have to play with a phone changing files etc just to allow the person i am calling to hear me.
I wish NOKIA OR SAMSUNG had made it
If you've got a stock rom and radio - completely un flashed from new, then the problem is more likely to be hardware related. If you've changed the rom then there is a good chance that the problem is because the radio also needs to change.
Check here for which radios work with which roms.
I can't help with which will work for you but I've tried most radios and I've found 1.27.12.17 and 1.27.12.32 work well with stanfard HTC rom and also all of Dutty's and Schaps roms.
Yah, the same problem and found so far a brick wall as far as resolution. I am unsure if new radio will resolve the problem as one user has returned his "tilt" phone 3 times under warranty just for the speaker problem and each time the speakerphone did not work even when "replaced". Also, other users have tried different radio/rom as well as "replacing" there phone through warranty: each time result the same; speakerphone did not work.
Here are a couple links relating to the problem but each time the problem seemed to remain.
Here is first post under xda (5 pages i think;relates to speaker problem; you will see users tried different radios and such but no resolution to problem ever found):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337931&page=5
here is another link from mobile planet that i started....
http://www.mobileplanet.com/ft.aspx?k=104689
resolution to this problem remains elusive. Some speculate that its due to non duplex design of the hardware while others speculate there might be some type of hack to correct this; but so far no fix has been found. Given the poor state of video drivers for this device; one has to wonder though if this is a software issue; but who knows.
Discussions regarding "callers not been able to hear me" seem to have died off.
I am still having this issue having tried many many different radios and roms. It's got to the point where I don't use the phone for calls anymore.
Today I flashed my phone back to the Taiwanese ROM and restored the OEM bootloader and went into the HTC service center. Of course the first thing they tried to do was test it on the spot by calling me in the shop. True to form it didn't show the issue which led them to believe it was more of a reception/network issue, even though I know it isn't. I have left it with them to send to their "technicians" and will await their outcome.
I asked another friend today if he's had the same issue where callers can't hear him and he does. Does anyone else still get "sorry I can't hear you" on nearly every call? I had always put this issue down to the crappy cellphone network in Taiwan but I had the same issue when I went back home last month where I've never had any phone call quality issues in the past (Vodafone NZ).
I'll post the outcome from HTC on Mon 6th Oct.
I'll probably get shot down in flames here but ...
The company I work for bought 200 Kaisers for our techs .... within a few days we people were complaining that the person on the other end of the phone couldn't hear them. It didn't take a genius to work out that with the STUPID mic location and the way you held your phone, the base of your thumb would completely cover the mic and make you inaudible!!
I do this daily without realising it!!!
Might be something to look at when/if I get my phone back. Out of interest... where is the mic???
The fact that the sound cuts in out out for my callers would suggest that it is a different issue though. It goes very very faint for them and then comes back to normal all without me moving or raising my voice.
Bottom right of the phone.... under the "reset" button.
Wow, I never knew that's where the mic was! Thanks!
That tiny hole next to the mini USB? It's almost on the back of the phone and definitely not close to the mouth when holding with your right hand.
I'll have to keep that in mind and see if it helps...
Yeah that's the one .... hold your phone in your right hand and let your hand relax a little and see where the mic ends up!! Completely covered by your hand!!
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i wouldn't say that unless you wanna piss alot of people off
DRZ400 said:
It didn't take a genius to work out that with the STUPID mic location and the way you held your phone, the base of your thumb would completely cover the mic and make you inaudible!!
I do this daily without realising it!!!
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You're right!! I got my phone back from HTC and they couldn't fault the mic. When i got home I tested it with my usual hand grip and sure enough it blocks the mic completely and nothing can be heard by the person on the other end.
Fault = I have fat hands
Hopefully this thread will help anyone else with similar issues.
LOL ... I wonder how many they get daily due to this!!
I'm a leftie so my hands aren't blocking the mic. I also had this problem with the Qtek 8310
I just got my Diamond back from repairs and wanted to compare experiences:
1)
I first bought a Diamond two months ago. It came with 1.37 ROM series on it, the screen wasn't too yellowish, but touch function wasn't responsive and the GPS was a MESS!
(of course, I tried many ROMs official and unofficial, almost every Radio ROM and various Hard-SPL. None of that fixed the problems.)
I could cope with with the other flaws, but I just couldn't bear my GPS wasn't getting a fix, no matter how much sattelits were in view...
It worked at first, but soon started to display '66666' instead of the location and finally, it would never display any location again.
I tried every tips and tricks and softs, it helped giving me more and more satellits in view and apparently active, but at the end my crappy GPS could never turn the datas received into a proper location...
2)
I sent my device back to warranty (after flashing back to official ROM and SPL) and had to wait for about a month.
(the technician at first tought I was just a noob unable to set his phone properly, but after two days of attempts, he had to admit that there was something wrong with my phone and sent it to the the headquarter for replacement of motherboard and so on.
3)
The new phone I got came directly with 1.93 ROM and a little bit more yellowish screen, though, there is no spot or stain on it. So the coulour doesnt bother me.
But from the beginning I noticed the new phone was much more responsive even at the slightest touch.
From the first try, the GPS got a fix in about 1 mn time, with only 3-4 satelits in view.
I installed Hard-SPL and the latest Australian Official ROM, and though the screen seems now a little less responsive than before, the GPS is still working, fine.
I'm a VERY happy user of Diamond now, but I'm still wondering one thing:
it looks like once the warranty technicians understood that I was very demanding about quality and complete functions, they took time but gave me a phone totally different in terms of behaviour and quality of the components sensitivity of screen, GPS etc.
Is there some bad production series that they never tells publicly about, and much more better series that they give you as a replacement once they understand you will bother them until the end of time if you are not satsified?
Plz tell your experience about having received two new diamonds with totally different behaviour and quality of the components.
I guess you are totally right!!!
My first device was pealing paint in the aluminium frame on the second day, work very good by the way.
Now i´m on the second device and i my hardware keys, especially the call button is sometimes irresponsive and i have to push it several times to enter the dial.
Tried cooked rooms as well, and the call button issue still remains, so i´m a little unhappy with my diamond experience.
I've noticed that whenever i turn on my display after having left the diamond unused for sometime the lcd doesn't switch on smoothly, what i mean is that it first displays a grey pattern(only for a ms or so) and then the desktop( lcd off>>grey flash>>desktop). Usually the transition from off to desktop is quite smooth, but in my case its not!
Is this a s/w issue or h/w ?
I've never experienced that particular problem myself, but sounds like H/W problem to me...
just been through a couple of other threads related to the grey screen of death...i've had it once...it happened while i ended a call, had to soft reset to resolve it.
take a look at the grey screen of death i'm talking about
Pretty scary indeed!
It might not be a coincidence that you experienced both: grey transition when switching on the screen and once, the grey screen of death after a call...
Two different effects of the same defective part in your H/W?
a solution!, almost
untill now i've had auto brightness control switched off and the brightness was set to minimum to save battery life, but now i just tried switching on auto adjust backlight and the problem seems to have vanished.....coming out of standby is smooth as ever!
although i've to say that i don't quite understand the logic behind it.
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it doesn't help for long
blufade said:
a solution!, almost
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it doesn't help for long
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This is what I was worrying about...
Your method sounded like a work around to avoid the display failure. But as a matter of fact, there must be a reason for the display to fail. (bad screen, power supply or something...)
By the way, I'm more and more convinced about my assumption that there are bad production series and better ones:
Today I had my device connected to my PC through USB for a couple of hours. In the meantime, I was downloading and deleting messages, watching google video on opera, after that I used wifi etc.
In this situation, my first Diamond would have got hot like hell and my hand could barely stand the pain...
Since many people were complaining about over-heat problems, I thought that was a common problem with Diamond.
But the new one did not get that hot. Just a little over-warmed, but definitely not too hot. From that phenomenon, I can see what I felt about a better touch-flow behaviour, a better GPS and so on is a part of a whole:
I was first sold a ****ty phone, and now I finally got a proper Diamond!
People with bad series, you don't have to cope with all those troubles, ask for a replacement phone!
my diamond gets heated up quite a bit at times....but i dont fully uderstand what exactly is the cause.....i've had experiences with the diamond getting pretty hot while using wifi & or gps and on another occasion i was watching a DVDRIP via wifi(@ full power) using core player and also with gps cycle running in the backgroud, still the diamond stayed well within reasonable limits.
i think it has to be a software problem, possibly the radio s/w
would you mind sharing the radio version of your diamond?
As written in my signature, I'm using the 1.00.25 which is included in all latest official ROMs.
By the way, I hope you did not cast a spell on me! (just kidding)
Today I experienced my first grey screen!!!
My Diamond was connected to the PC through USB cable, downloading e-mails, and I got a phone call. When I hung the phone, It suddainly happened, for the first time in my Diamond user carreer!
Just for one second, looking like an old black and white TV screen trying to tune on channels.
Hope that was the first and last time. In ordinary calls, (without being synchronized to the PC at the same time, it never happened so far...
sorry to hear that my friend
My Diamond was connected to the PC through USB cable, downloading e-mails, and I got a phone call. When I hung the phone, It suddainly happened, for the first time in my Diamond user carreer!
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I'd the same experience except for the fact that my diamond wasn't connected to a PC.
I hard reseted my diamond yesterday, but the grey splash while i turn on the display from standby(post 3) still exists ( ......i don't suppose its a software problem anymore.
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i don't suppose its a software problem anymore.
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Why not trying to send it back to the seller and get a new one?
This problem is easy to demonstrate to the technicians, and I don't think they will be cheeky enough to say that's a normal phenomenon!
This problem is easy to demonstrate to the technicians, and I don't think they will be cheeky enough to say that's a normal phenomenon!
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not that easy.....the thing is that if we turn on & off the lcd without a gap of atleast 4-5 min(dono exactly) i dont see that grey splash
i think im going to wait another 3-4 months before i approach for warranty.
I had that "gray splash" problem with my Kaiser and Diamond.
Hard reset also didn't work like above. For both devices the fix was simply flashing to a different (cooked) ROM.
As mentioned in another thread, the grey screen problem was fixed (as least for me when I flashed to dutty's rom)
blufade said:
not that easy.....the thing is that if we turn on & off the lcd without a gap of atleast 4-5 min(dono exactly) i dont see that grey splash
i think im going to wait another 3-4 months before i approach for warranty.
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You can stay there and wait for 5 more minutes in the shop while they are attending other customers, just to proove your point.
If they are honest, they will not deny the fact!
foxium said:
I had that "gray splash" problem with my Kaiser and Diamond.
Hard reset also didn't work like above. For both devices the fix was simply flashing to a different (cooked) ROM.
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As mentioned in another thread, the grey screen problem was fixed (as least for me when I flashed to dutty's rom)
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There might be some tweaks in the cooked ROMs that avoid the problem, or it might be due to some bad flashing or defective hardware.
If not, how do you explain that I've never experienced this with my previous HTC phones (wizard, Trinity...) nor I experienced it with my Diamonds (the first one and the new one) with stock or cooked ROMs.
except for that very special time, when I received a call while downloading messages through Active Sync.
Hey guys,
I have a samsung Galaxy Ace and I have been really happy using it. It is the best budget phone out there till date and it's a completely satisfying experience. However I hit a major bump past week when I accidentally dropped my phone and the screen (digitizer) just cracked like a thin ice. The touch sensitivity of the phone was still as smooth as it was before the crash.
I promptly went to my mobile repair expert and got the digitizer changed. The buttons and screens seemed to work with a little resistance which wasn't a deal breaker. However I found a couple of more disturbing niggles on the phone.
1) The touch seems to have a mind of its own. Especially so when I have to use messaging or whatsapp. The keys, are not accurate. "How are you today?" comes up like "Hpw are ypu tpday?". The spacebar and backspace buttons are hyperactive. One touch and the phone keeps adding spaces crazy number of times or just deletes the whole sentence. That's really annoying.
2) Whenever I place a call, the display goes blank (which happens when you place the phone near your ear, anyway). But the display doesn't come up even after it's kept away from my ears. So technically I stare at a blank screen and pretty much can't do anything if I have to cut the call or put the phone on the loudspeaker.
For an android lover, especially an ace lover, this problem can be pretty disturbing. I am thinking of going back to the expert and have him check it. But I want to know if this is a problem with the digitizer or a hardware of the phone has given up. Here's a shout out to all the Android Gurus to shed some light into my predicament.
regards,
Vivek
Check out this section somebody already reported the digitizer problem and how to simulate that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1553042
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Hi all
More than a month ago I sent my z3c to assistance because the magnetic charger sideburn was unsticking.
It came back a week later with a new one, all was perfect looking. But then a new problem appeared.
In the next days people started telling me that my voice was too weak during calls. I decided to check and have some tests. I found that my the voice at the other side of the call was really too weak and too low, not consistant, with interruptions, and that when i try to activate the speaker, it gets even worse. They can hear a loud background noise and the return of their voice, plus others rumors, with the result that having a normal call is almost impossible.
Since that moment, I already sent my phone twice to the service summing up to 4 times, (the first was this summer for the sim flap which couldn't close). I'm sending them emails every time explaining the problem; once they made an electrical fix, the second time they changed the logicboard, but the problem is still there.
I'd like to know if some of you has or had the same problem and how they fixed it. I asked to change mine with another but it seems like they don't want to.
It's always been stock, i don't think another rom could fix the problem
I want my phone operative... I even had to buy something else in the meantime otherwise i would have been for more than a month without a phone (I bought a OPX )
Thank you for the attention
Anyone?
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Hi,
really no one knows something? Today I got my phone back for the 5th time, and again it has the same issue.... And they don't want to give me another one..
I honestly don't know what the hell could I do...
Thanks