Occassionally (more often than not) my keyboard, button keys and touch screen are unresponsive, where I need to hold down the key, or press it multiple times for it to register.
I tried searching but wasn't sure what keywords to search for. Has anyone else had this issue, or know where I can find the info to resolve it?
Thanks!
ROM? Hard-SPL?
Ultimate-X.V8.2G
How do I find the spl?
Also, I had an issue with my previous ROM version. I figured it was due to the ROM, but since I reproduced the problem on the new one now I'm not so sure. Any ideas?
axebox said:
Ultimate-X.V8.2G
How do I find the spl?
Also, I had an issue with my previous ROM version. I figured it was due to the ROM, but since I reproduced the problem on the new one now I'm not so sure. Any ideas?
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Go into bootloader to find Hard-SPL i imagine you using 3.29 if you used the noob guide to flash and not upgraded since.
You can get into Bootloader by pressing camera button holding in for 2-3 sec and placing the stylus in the reset hole.
The way to find out if hardware would be to flash Stock ROM that is in the WIKI, if fine then may be worth updating to 3.34 then flashing custom ROM.
got the same problem. i think its an problem with my carrier. it seems, that my kaiser are trying to connect to an better antenna. those search tasks slow your kaiser down. you can try it by disabeling your cell phone function.
second to that, the carrier, i got the same problem, but just happend when the cell phone radio of my kaiser its on!!! i see this problem in a HP IPAQ 6XXX and in a TYTN 1 too, help plz its a horrible lag! i am tring to tweak some phone funtions with the registry, regards
Maybe should flash a new radio, check the wiki for 'how to'.
Or the ultimate radio thread. I also suggest everybody to read the wiki and the 'sticky's, sticky was set for a reason.
hey i got the 3.28.407.0 German Rom on my device. What is the best radio for it?
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Hello all,
I'm just now debating on whether or not I need to exchange my new Tilt in for another one, or if this is just normal break-in behavior.
The scroll wheel is very erratic, sometimes when scrolling down it will go up instead and reversing the scrolling motion will cause it to freak out (go down once then scroll up like crazy). Also pressing the scroll wheel in to select/click on something often doesn't work forcing me to try several times to "click" on what I have selected.
The scrolling action is nowhere near as smooth as my Hermes, is anyone else having these issues?
******* separate but related issue *******
If it is indeed a hardware issue, does anyone know of a way to restore the bootloader back to AT&T's ... I flashed HardSPL and think I should probably put it back to stock.
Thanks,
Dave
same problem
i am having the same issue, wondering if i should go back to that nasty blue slut of a rom
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
I guess using the SSPL-KAIS.EXE and then flashing an AT&T om would solve that.
Cheers,
Cactus
reitjam said:
i am having the same issue, wondering if i should go back to that nasty blue slut of a rom
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I was having the same problem with the AT&T ROM, but admittedly was not running it for very long before pof released HardSPL.
That's what makes me think it's hardware related.
le_cactus said:
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
I guess using the SSPL-KAIS.EXE and then flashing an AT&T om would solve that.
Cheers,
Cactus
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Thanks Cactus,
I haven't checked the SSPL thread today, I saw that pof closed it last night because it was bricking a lot of phones. Thought he mentioned that he was going to try to get a working one out soon.
Thanks again for the reply.
sirsycho said:
******* separate but related issue *******
If it is indeed a hardware issue, does anyone know of a way to restore the bootloader back to AT&T's ... I flashed HardSPL and think I should probably put it back to stock.
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SSPL v1 is just fine to flash an SPL or a splash screen, it will not work if you flash a full NBH containing OS becuase the NBH buffer is smaller on 0.92.
thanks pof!
Erratic scroll wheel persists across ROMs
Well I flashed back to AT&T ROM this morning and have been playing with it all day, and the erratic behavior is still there.
Given that only one other person complained here, I think it might be my device. Gonna go see my AT&T guy about an exchange.
Thanks for bearing with me.
sirsycho,
Let me know if you got a new device and it is better, please. I am having issues with having to click the scroll wheel really hard to get it to register at times. On another note, unlike all the other keys on my Tilt keyboard, the 's' key barely goes down when you press it and it doesn't click like all the otthers. This causes me to instinctively hit it multiple timessss so I get a lot of Ss in a row. Anyone else?
I have the same problem. It sometimes works and sometimes it dont.
willieb9000 said:
sirsycho,
Let me know if you got a new device and it is better, please. I am having issues with having to click the scroll wheel really hard to get it to register at times. On another note, unlike all the other keys on my Tilt keyboard, the 's' key barely goes down when you press it and it doesn't click like all the otthers. This causes me to instinctively hit it multiple timessss so I get a lot of Ss in a row. Anyone else?
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My new device is on the FedEx truck for delivery today... I'm going to try it out with the standard AT&T ROM for a bit to get a good baseline and then flash to HTC's... I'll try to post an update tonight.
Thanks.
sirsycho said:
Well I flashed back to AT&T ROM this morning and have been playing with it all day, and the erratic behavior is still there.
Given that only one other person complained here, I think it might be my device. Gonna go see my AT&T guy about an exchange.
Thanks for bearing with me.
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Not you're device. I had this issue prior to unlocking, then with the htc rom and again now with the att rom. To me, it looks either hardware issue, or something lower level is the OS that is common to all current roms. PErhaps the sensitivity of the wheel needs tweaking somehow.
I had issues with my scroll wheel as well. Coming from an 8525 I was like WTF did they do to this wheel? Sometimes the click wasn't registering, but either it's broken in, or I've adjusted my habits because it seems OK now, though not as solid feeling as the 8525 was. I'm sitting here with both the 8525 and Tilt in my hands and the wheel on the 8525 is definitely better.
I'm experiencing the same problem. The wheel feels scratchy when rotated, unlike my Hermes which was smooth. Usually wheels of this type are metal contacts against a circuit board, which use a binary gray code to register direction. I'm thinking its been designed poorly. Perhaps the Hermes unit was $.02 more money.
I wonder if we can replace it with a Hermes unit?
thanks sirsycho.. Update us once you get your new one.
Update with new Tilt and ATT ROM
ok... I'm still running the ATT ROM and still having the scroll wheel issues. Exactly the same things mentioned by others here... scrolling doesn't always register and when pressing in on the wheel I have to do it a couple times before it actually works.
On a side note, it seemed to be getting better on the older device before I switched, but as was mentioned above, that might just be me getting used to the substandard hardware (both of my Hermes work sooo much better).
I'll probably try this out through tomorrow before I flash the HTC ROM... I'll post again if anything improves.
Same scroll wheel problems for me (I have a Tilt). It sounds like maybe it improves as you break it in, so I'll give it a few more days before returning. Grrr....
Same problem here with my first Tilt. I returned the next day because this thread hadn't popped up yet so I thought it was just me and one defective unit. I subsequently got one that (knock on wood) has performed much better. Still notice a few jutters here and there, but the wheel doesn't feel as "scratchy" as mentioned before.
When I had my first Tilt, I noticed it much more when moving the wheel slowly. Here's hoping the problem doesn't start again because so far so good with my new one.
hello i'm using htc Tytn II
rom version : 1.81.707.0 WWE
rom date : 09/05/07
Radio version : 1.27.12.11
Protocol version : 22.45.88.07H
CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 1825.0.4.2)
and everything works fine up,down and push.....
cheers
Just got a Tilt 3 days ago
Just got a Tilt 3 days ago and Im having the same erratic scroll wheel problem.
I see that this is an old thread, so I'm wondering if any conclusion as to this being a hardware or software problem have been made?
Thanks
Hi
First of all, I am a complete newbie and needs directions from experienced.
Bought AT&T Tilt on eBay and this is my very 1st smart phone of any sort.
It came with Schaps 4.30 Rom.
I have 3 questions.
1. Where do I start as far as cooked Rom is concerned ?
I've started reading Kaiser and AT&T specific wiki but not sure if I should
try and upgrade. I see there are other variants for WM6 and WM6.1 but I
don't even know how bad is the stock one.
Is there comparision/bench marks for different Roms ?
Btw, I won't be using any internet-related program for next 6 months.
Assuming I stick to Schaps 4.3 Rom for while, I have 2 issues.
2. Whenever I go to Setting->System->Screen->Align, the phone freezes
and only way out of it is to soft reset.
All buttons don't work and the screen doesn't respond to tabbing.
What is wrong ?
4. Alarm clock. I have been using my old mobile phone to wake me up every
morning. It's loud and continuous until I press stop or snoop in which case
it goes off again in 5 mins or so.
However, the one in Setting/Clock in Kaiser is no way near annoying.
Its volume is very low and all the alarm sounds that I can choose are too
friendly to wake me up.
Is there a better alarm program out there ?
Any advice/tip appreciated.
Thanks.
Some of your problems sound like the could be related to YOUR device specifially. Look up all the "newbie" guides to flashing in the search section. (top right...lower...lower..there it is.) Try changing your rom. I use mostly Alex's and dutty's stuff. They're dummy proof.
well it all depends if u want to flash ur phone to another rom..no one else is gonna make that decision for u...just make sure if u do read all the wikis...ALL of them and make sure u have a good understand of it...make sure u read other wikis relating to it as well...
the more you read and understand the less you make problems for yourself to dig out of
I see the thread is closed. I was in the process of replying when it must have been closed. I think you might have some hardware problems from what you describe. I would NOT flash a new ROM until you try to pin down the cause of the lack of screen response and buttons not working. These two problems can be associated with a loose d-pad connector or ribbon connector.
This depends on which buttons are not responding.
If you flash with a broken digitizer then you will face problems when you come to thw automatic alignment screen following the flash. To flash would be a gamble. It could solve your problems BUT it could mean you cannot get past the alignment settings screen.
Mike
Hi Guys,
My apologies if this has been posted already, but I couldn’t seem to find anything on it.....I have had my Diamond for about 2 weeks and the camera hardly ever works. 90% of the time when i start it all i get is the Photo logo and then a blank screen. If i push the capture button, a few seconds later I get the error "Unable to capture photo. Unable to get frame data from camera device". I have done the latest HTC official update to ROM 1.93, I have soft reset and hard reset and no luck Sometimes if I do a soft reset it will work for a little bit and then just stop working again.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks
Grim
you may need to install one of x-dev custom ROMs, or try hard reseting your diamond. if the problem still exist after Hard Reset, probably it is hardware trouble.
read read and read before you install Cooked roms from xda-developers. you need to do HardSPL before instaling any other ROMs
Thanks for the response!
I have hard reset the device a few times, and no luck. I dont reallt want to install a cooked ROM, I dont think I can handle it to be honest. I will take it that it is a Hardware fault and I will be sending it back tmrw. Thanks again!
Hi Grim! I have the same problem. I've installed 1.93 official ROM and even SwiftBl 7.5, I've upgraded my Radio From .05 to .08 , but my camera is still like yours.
Have you find a solution? Did HTC service Center change your device?
Thanks..
İ have the same problem and could not find a solution for it...
Dear All,
I have same problem. Camera crashes after 1 or two photo. I have black screen.
Tried many Rom's. no fix .
How could you fix ?
anyone got a solution for this problem?
is the diamond camera hopless?
no solution for this error till now?
This issue realy bugs me now. Every time I've change the OS it work for a bit then it dies. realy anoying. Anyones suggestion may be usefull.
If it is the hardware - is it the camera? Could it be just gone loose?
There´s few steps to take.
If camera works sometimes, I think, it´s not a camera problem on itself.
(IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO PARTS AND YOU KNOW WHAT U`RE DOING)
Try this:
Exchange flex and flash (use official RUU htc).
Or:
Put phone inbootloader, disconnect flex from board (while working and booloader on) and flash.
If everything else fails, I´m affraid the PCB has internal flash IC problems.
Dont have parts but will open it and check flex. If flash is gone how come mtty does not flag some segments as bad. Checking around the web looks like I am not the only one with this problem.
all you Coders... please help us with the camera issue.
Hey guys..
this camera for touch diamond is screwing..
tried various methods.. flashed everything possible..
still no luck..
if any xda user outthere.. who has the solution for this problem..
please help up..
my device is out of warranty..
thanks
I've found out if you take the battery out for 10 secs and put it back the camera works again untill you run another app. It feels like as soon as you run something else with camera it is screwed!
I bought an ATT tilt quite a while ago. It is out of warranty now, and wouldn't you know it, something went wrong.
I'm currently using Dutty's Diamond ROM (with the keyboard fix installed), but the same happened before with the official ROM. While I text some keys don't work. I'll be typing away, just to look at the screen and see that I am missing a bunch of letters, rendering the message unreadable. I then have to go back and fill in all the blanks, and even then sometimes it takes several tries to get it to go. The same happens with the backspace key; sometimes it just doesn't work, other times it does (oddly enough, when it doesn't work normally, it usually lets me hit "function" and use it as the delete key).
My other concern is that there is a ton of lag while typing. It takes a while for letters to show up. Is that normal (for the Tilt, at least. I'm still wishing I had bought a BlackBerry)?
Yeah, I had similar troubles. I just upgraded my SPL and hopefully will be testing it further testing.
what SPL are you running?
I'm not entirely sure, it was a while ago that I flashed the ROM. How do I find out what it is? I tried Device Information, but it wasn't there.
you have to put it in Bootloader mode.
hold power and camera button while resetting with the stylus, then you'll come to the tricolor screen which will give you the SPL info.
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
crushbup said:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
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You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
mech_supernova said:
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
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What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
crushbup said:
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
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cnn.cn has them for cheap AFAIK!
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
whistler4ever said:
You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
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I got the same SPL he has, I did a hard reset afterwards then downgraded back to 1.0 because I saw no improvement.
I thought RomeOS worked best with 3.29.
crushbup said:
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
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http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-p4550-keyboard-flex-p-1433.html
found this in another thread!
Success! If the SPL doesn't work and I can't convince AT&T to do it, I'll order one and put it in. How do you install it?
EDIT: I just installed skyfire, and noticed that while I was putting in my email and password it was smooth and nothing was skipped. I'm almost 100% certain this is a problem with WinMo itself
I have been having the same problem as you are describing, but I have noticed that it is with heavy use keys like T, H, E, R, S and for some reason V.
I was getting the feeling that it was a hardware problem rather than a software problem because, especially with the V, I have to apply a bit of pressure to get the button to work.
Unfortunately for me I bought mine off Ebay so the warranty is already void.
Incidentally mine started happening when I had the original network providers (T-Mobile) rom on it. I have since installed an original HTC rom and it hasnt made the slightest bit of difference.
So, how easy is it to open up the back of the Tytn II and replace the keyboard unit then?
Oh my god! Thank you for posting this. I swear I have always felt like posting this but always got too lazy. I thought it was only me that had this problem. It is so annoying typing away, and then having to spend another minute to retype the letters that didn't get inputed the first time. It is so frustrating and I thought it was my fault or something, or ROM, I believe its hardware related, but I am not going to spend another dime on this POS. I'm just not so patiently awaiting t-mobile to release their android device, and I will jump ship and never look back! Thanks for the post again, it has given me piece of mind.....ironically
I'm kind of wanting T-Mobile's Android phone, but seeing as how it's made by HTC, I'll wait for the first couple of user-reviews to come out. I bought the Tilt based on website reviews, but man, I was really misled. They said the camera was great, I can only get blurry unrecognizable images. They made no mention of the fact that when you switch to landscape it takes 3 seconds for all the graphics to appear.
I'm disappointed, and I think my next phone will be a plain vanilla flip phone.
Anywho, I'm updating the SPL now, I'll post if it makes any change.
Okay, I now have HardSPL 3.56 and there does not appear to be much of a change. There was some short lag at the beginning of the text string, but afterwards it caught up. I missed no letters this time. I cannot say how much of this was the placebo effect (i.e. it just felt faster), but perhaps if everyone with the issue tries we can have a reasonable answer.
ETA: I added a poll, so if you try this, fill in the poll!
disable word suggestion under Input setting.
i don't miss any characters with it disabled.
It was already disabled for me. I know I didn't change it, I think the ROM came that way.
Hey there i was hoping some one could help me out. I have 2 things
1.) The Battery Icon on the top bar does not update at all. It just shows a full charge no matter how much charge my phone has, When I plug it in it doesn't change to charging either. If I go to battery properties I then can see how much charge my phone has. Anyone encountered this?
2.)2 buttons on my key board are reversed. The 2 Fn Blue buttons "!" and "@" are reversed, how do I change those?
I am on rom version Stylez Black WM 6.1 Full v.3 Beta 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545821
and the last program I installed was S2U2 v2.04
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545821
Thanks for any and all help
Could be that you have the kaiser keyboard and not the Tilt.
Hmmmm, thats intresting
well my model # is kais100 and its HTC 8925.
is there still away to re-assign keys so I can fix this problem?
well if it's the problem that I think it is.
search + tilt keyboard problem = win!
ChumleyEX said:
well if it's the problem that I think it is.
search + tilt keyboard problem = win!
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It is also addressed in the faqs on the first page of the rom. Why people throw their phone in to the fire with out even spending 5 min to read the faqs is still beyond me. I have flashed my phone well over a hundred times and I still read the entire first page of any new rom I am flashing, to see what I am getting into with my $500 phone.
As far as the taskbar icons go, could be a bad flash, could just be a phone hiccup, no one else has had that problem with the rom. Try a hard reset or reflash the rom.
Thanks for the fast responses! I totally missed the keyboard fix on the FAQ, I got everything else (including the Radio from the FAQ) but that slipped by me.
now I am still new at tweaking my phone so will a hard reset restore all my setting and I will have reinstall all my programs I downloaded?
Just Figured out a Hard Reset will Erase all my Data. So no one else has had this problem...hhmmmm... It has to be one of the programs I installed, Maybe if I uninstall them 1 at a time ...... anyone else got any Ideas?