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Clean ROM without TouchFlo 3D?

Hello there!
I changed my Diamond on Touch HD, and now I looking for clean Windows Mobile ROM without TouchFlo 3D. Can anybody recomend me something?
Thanks for You help. Best Regards.

proot said:
Hello there!
I changed my Diamond on Touch HD, and now I looking for clean Windows Mobile ROM without TouchFlo 3D. Can anybody recomend me something?
Thanks for You help. Best Regards.
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If you want a minimalistic ROM, I recommend johnpatchers Barebones ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972
It is pure Windows Mobile - no TouchFlo, no AdobePDF, no Opera etc. and really, really fast!
A less minimalistic alternative could be a ROM by onkolog (he offers a version with TouchFlo and one without): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482258
I'm sure there are even more ROMs without TouchFlo, but I have tested these two and they're nice!

Latest 6.1 Cooked Rom?

Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.

Anfloyd said:
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
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The title of each rom generally states date and if you open rom thread it will tell you whether it is based on 6.1 or 6.5 etc
Open rom thread and read details of thread.

prynhawn da! - good afternoon!
Anfloyd said:
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
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try Laurentius 3.55 ROM based on windows 6.1, freaking fast mate, the fastest one yet and i've used quite a lot of cooked ROMs already this is as of today the fastest 6.1 i've used. Dutty's 6.5R6 is really fast as well. see daerons benchmarks. prynhawn da!

jigners said:
try Laurentius 3.55 ROM based on windows 6.1, freaking fast mate, the fastest one yet and i've used quite a lot of cooked ROMs already this is as of today the fastest 6.1 i've used. Dutty's 6.5R6 is really fast as well. see daerons benchmarks. prynhawn da!
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Nice one! Funnily enough I had already flashed Laurentius 3.55 and so far am really pleased with it. Like you I've tried a lot of different roms and came to the decision that 6.5 is not for me at the moment. Not as refined as some of the 6.1's here. Onkolongs 6.1 roms are really stable and speedy but he hasn't seemed to have updated them recently.
Iechyd da!

Maybe not the latest, but definitely my favourite.
Of all the 6.1's I have tried, I am most happy with Dutty's HD V3.9 XT Turbo (TouchFLO 2.0.37911.3).
It's stable, practical, and good looking. From what I have read, it seems to be the most popular 6.1 ROM out there.
I would be very interested if anyone has a preferred 6.1, and for what reason.
I'm not into 6.5 (mainly due to slower speed and less functional use - correct me if I'm wrong), so I really can't see me flashing again for a while. Even if I do, I'm pretty sure I'll come back to this one.
Mattster.

i think kwbr was the longest to stick with 6.1 , and his topix is close to perfection. So you might wanna flash that one

Another vote for Topix 6.1 here. It's a very, very nice ROM. Absolutely no issues whatsoever and liquid smooth at all times.

balane said:
Another vote for Topix 6.1 here. It's a very, very nice ROM. Absolutely no issues whatsoever and liquid smooth at all times.
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+1 for topix

Yes, I tried Topix 3.1.2 but if I remember rightly I found the visuals a little dull compared to Dutty's. I may reflash it to check though.
I must admit, it still bugs me when I compare my HD Touch to the beautifully smooth rotations and transitions on an iphone. Though I enjoy the customisation of HTC and Windows Mobile Devices, it always feels like we are struggling to reach a level of animation that the iphone already has!
Mattster.

Topix is the best so far. Dutty was good also but I think its outdated, and topix is more stable and smooth.
So +1 for topix.

barisahmet said:
Topix is the best so far. Dutty was good also but I think its outdated, and topix is more stable and smooth.
So +1 for topix.
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Another vote for Topix 3.12 for a WM6.1 rom
Very stable and a logical program access system
This is the last WM6.1 rom that has been cooked by anyone

The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.

rpimps said:
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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What about the fact that 6.5 is more finger friendly than 6.1?

band27 said:
What about the fact that 6.5 is more finger friendly than 6.1?
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But WM6.1 is faster and I personally use my HD mainly through Manila interface, so simply I don't need some resources eating monster underneath

rpimps said:
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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A german cook has a 6.1 rom with manilla 2.1 but it's a german rom. i tried to replace the mui files with wwe ones but i am afraid i dont know nothing about cooking. if somebody can do it it will be perfect because it's a very stable and fast rom.

khanem said:
A german cook has a 6.1 rom with manilla 2.1 but it's a german rom. i tried to replace the mui files with wwe ones but i am afraid i dont know nothing about cooking. if somebody can do it it will be perfect because it's a very stable and fast rom.
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You can have a look at this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596767&highlight=language). It should help you to change the language files.

rpimps said:
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.

mh297 said:
Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
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before people ask, you can find it here
password=topix version 3.0.2

ClydeB1 said:
You can have a look at this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596767&highlight=language). It should help you to change the language files.
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i want to change winmo language and not only manilla (the later can be done with a registry mod). if you can point me to a good guide for it i will be grateful.

mh297 said:
Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
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I didn't think you could do that with 6.1? Every time I've seen it it's with wm6.5 manila 2.1, where it basically looks like 6.1 it just has a box around the clock with the current weather icon/temperature underneath the clock.

where to find TF3D 2.5?

sorry for noobie query - where to find TF3D v2.5 (e.g. DIAMOND2) for my TouchPRO (.cab only)?

It hasn't been ported, or converted, as of yet.

If you mean the actual TF3D 2.5 then there is port in the works ( [PRJ] MuttiM Manila 2.5 VGA Port (BETA) )and these guys have actually released a ROM using the new TF3D (it is a bit buggy right now, but cool to try)
If you are talking about just the TF3D that is on Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2 then most of the ROM's in the ROM development section are using the new Gen.Y TF3D 2.1
I am currently using NRG's "warhawk" ROM that uses the TF3D 2.1 port which is absolutely amazing.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: oops, just realized that you only want a cab installation (it is not recommended for installing these new TF3D's), but I am sure you can find it if you search for it. I still recommend just flashing a ROM.

hi
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
[email protected]

the cm-xor rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493657 has touchflo 2.5 as well... i tried it for a few days and it works well.

even in landscape ? last rom I tested with 2.5 was not rotating tf3d when opening the keyboard.

flooorian said:
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
[email protected]
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you're mad stupid, they haven't released and you need one? you need a bowl of ****

hahahahahahha funniest comment i have ever come across...noobies

Broman400 said:
you're mad stupid, they haven't released and you need one? you need a bowl of ****
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Microsoft just released WinMo 6.5 some days ago and my first 6.5 Rom was... hell... don't know... january? ;P
There are already several ROMs with 2.5 here... not that much in VGA yet, but i hope we'll see more in close future.
I just loaded a Rom with 2.5 in my XPeria...

flooorian said:
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
[email protected]
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you my friend is desperate, if you want it go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560745
its your only option, oh wait...it says nearly current port status
if you want the TF3D by itself, youre outta luck, youre gonna need alot of patients, all the chefs and everyone else has a life outside the net world, do something thatll pass the time and itll be out before you know it, but dont expect it to be a perfect build.....
btw posting your own email makes you look crazy

[REQ] Stock WM6.1 Sense2.1

May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me

@icsulescu: Mostly I agree with you. But I think that TF3D 2.5 can be ported to 6.1 with all benefits and it would not be difficult for the Touch HD to handle it. Now I use the Topix 3.2.1 ROM which, with TF3D on is using 38% of memory.
I was very disappointed with the 6.5 ROMs which, let's face it, are very slow compared to the 6.1 ROMs, though TF3D 2.5 is eye-candy and has more features. (Twitter, Footprints, etc)
IMHO, Sense is not 6.5 dependent and the Touch HD should handle it pretty well with a 6.1 ROM. I say that thinking about the fact that Sense is somehow multiplatform... We have SenseUI on Android devices and TF3D 2.5 on Windows Mobile devices. In the WM 2.1 version of the TF3D we have the weather tab which has animated weather information therefore i cannot think that there isn't any way of pasting it in the home tab.
TF3D was not entirely rewritten. Most of the tabs are the same in the 2.5 version, with small design changes, but mainly they are alike.
The home tab also had an up-swipe but now we have shortcuts instead of appointments list.
The people tab: the 2D layout is the same with the one in M2D...
The SMS and Mail tabs... small changes in the mail tab (masks for messages)
The calendar tab: a little extra work was done
The internet tab: thumnails for bookmarks. Again... I don't think is OS dependent
Stocks: Is there anyone using this tab?
Photos and videos: No news
Music: Coverflow alike. Drivers dependent, far from impossible on 6.1
Weather: Size and layering issues, far from impossible on 6.1
Settings: Even M2D on 6.1 handles it excellent
Programs: c'mon...
There are a few commercial and free UI replacements for 6.1 that are far more smooth and faster than stock TF3D. Take SPB Mobile Shell with superb transitions and effects as example or the more customisable Wisbar Advanced Desktop...

Workin on ROM...
Hi icsulescu !
icsulescu said:
I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
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You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER

TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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Nice to see that somebody care.. anyhow thanks ... hope that you will release a wwe version to; is not to hard for you let the XDA readers test it..
And no kneading the stock 6.1 rom for my phone is 38% after boot
Regards,
Me
P.S how is your OP?
All the best

Hi icsulescu !
icsulescu said:
P.S how is your OP?
All the best
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OPs on Teeths are not so good ... it´s a torture ... pain ... and i´am bleeding out of my mouth ....
But yet ... i´am feelin fine, thanks !
CU
TOggER

Hmmmmm.....
.....as far as I follow this part of the forum for some time...... it seems that we get somewhere to block ourselves ....not so much improvement...some trying to get sense 2.5 but still due to HTC messaging (Thanks HTC I will buy another HTC soon...) Sense 2.5 is not suitable for HD1; WM 6.5 to expensive for " old" HD……;
other 6.5.x for testing...but who cares for the people who bought a high end phone, that were more expensive then a laptop?! and in 5-7 month was already dead (at least in my case)……..
Any how I do appreciate a lot all the effort that XDA developers and user are doing and I do THANK YOU ALL!!
OK so...let’s move on...keep on going...
Regards,
Me

icsulescu said:
May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
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I totally agree with you. If you´re looking for a stabel and fast ROM for you HD, WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1 is a good choice. The newer Manila may be a nice toy, but it wasn´t made for the processor of the HD.
So, kwbr´s ROMs seem to be that what you´re searching for. Only in his latest he integrated WM 6.5. All others before werde WM 6.1 with Sense 2.1 (some with weather and some without).

TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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TOggER .. really looking forward to your WWE English version of this ROM. I tried Miri's 6.1 with Sense 2.5 but while great was *slow*.
I tried your ROM too and got Sense in English but I need the underlying ROM in English too as my German sucks ;-)
I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
Cheers.

MrMiyagi said:
I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
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That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!

4li said:
That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
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+1 !!
We should request that HTC made an updated ROM for our HD, with Manilla 2.1, with the WM 6.1. They wouldn't have the "Microsoft excuse" since the OS would still be the 6.1

Has anyone tried kwbr's Topix 3.1.2?
It is WM 6.1 with Manila 2.1, fast, reliable, you have huge amounts of free memory and the battery lasts very long. I have used it for weeks with no issues at all.
3.1.2 is finalized.
At the moment, kwbr is cooking Topix 3.2.X versions with WM 6.5, but old 3.1.2 with WM 6.1 is still available for download.

wm 6.1 with sense 2.5
found it on google Miri_WM61_21054_Manila_2.5_V3.0.rar.it's good rom

TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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i tried your v0.4 and it's awesome. can you pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase translate to wwe. i would do it if know how.
thanks

Request to the Cookers (ROM)

Hello guys i just wana say something, and maybe some of the cookers who think the same way can cook something like this.
Here is full with many new ROM`s for our Blackstones but mostly they are with Manila 2.5 Sense and they are very very heavy ROM`s and not Run like it must to be on our device.. for that reason i use only ROM`s with 2.1 Sense because of the speed but even 2.1 Sense cant beat the speed and feel of TF3D 2.1.XXX so i know there is avalible ROM like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632
from Topix but its Old Build, my question is can anyone cook a clean 6.5 Build for example some of the latest build from COM 2 21903 and to cook in the latest TF3D 2.1.XXX not sense anymore.
By clean i mean all files that the useless or all aplications that can be installed via cab to be removed from the ROM. Because some of the apps get updates all the time so you just can uninstall and install the new one via cab.. this can heppand only if the apps are not cooked in the ROM.
So for what im talking is a Super Fast ROM for everyday use, and on the same time good battery consumation, also everyone know how fast can be the old TF3D also i cant imagine a copressed TF3D with some other tweaks what will heppand... and how fast and sensitive will be.
Often we forgot that the main function of our devices is a Phone so often when there are heavy ROM`s the dialer is slow.. when someone calling you the respond is slow and things like this, what we really need is a Fast Device and fast Dialer fast response time when someone calling you to not have a delay and things like this.
If anyone who can cook wana make such a ROM will be awesome.
Thanks

I totally agree with you, would be nice if a chef could cook this up for us

tsalta said:
Hello guys i just wana say something, and maybe some of the cookers who think the same way can cook something like this.
Here is full with many new ROM`s for our Blackstones but mostly they are with Manila 2.5 Sense and they are very very heavy ROM`s and not Run like it must to be on our device.. for that reason i use only ROM`s with 2.1 Sense because of the speed but even 2.1 Sense cant beat the speed and feel of TF3D 2.1.XXX so i know there is avalible ROM like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632
from Topix but its Old Build, my question is can anyone cook a clean 6.5 Build for example some of the latest build from COM 2 21903 and to cook in the latest TF3D 2.1.XXX not sense anymore.
By clean i mean all files that the useless or all aplications that can be installed via cab to be removed from the ROM. Because some of the apps get updates all the time so you just can uninstall and install the new one via cab.. this can heppand only if the apps are not cooked in the ROM.
So for what im talking is a Super Fast ROM for everyday use, and on the same time good battery consumation, also everyone know how fast can be the old TF3D also i cant imagine a copressed TF3D with some other tweaks what will heppand... and how fast and sensitive will be.
Often we forgot that the main function of our devices is a Phone so often when there are heavy ROM`s the dialer is slow.. when someone calling you the respond is slow and things like this, what we really need is a Fast Device and fast Dialer fast response time when someone calling you to not have a delay and things like this.
If anyone who can cook wana make such a ROM will be awesome.
Thanks
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You should try this :
http://forum.hdblog.it/showthread.php?t=9413
Direct link : http://www.sendspace.com/file/0r6fx8
it's italian but I could even translate it into WWE...or edit it in such a way...
if I would have a good reason to do this...
Flash and try and let me know through PM...
greets!

Kenia1234 said:
You should try this :
http://forum.hdblog.it/showthread.php?t=9413
Direct link : http://www.sendspace.com/file/0r6fx8
it's italian but I could even translate it into WWE...or edit it in such a way...
if I would have a good reason to do this...
Flash and try and let me know through PM...
greets!
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Dude we talk about WWE ROM because i don`t understand anything from Italian

After many roms tested and tried (2.5), I was surprised with how fast 2.1 is. Never going back to 2.5 anymore. But I don't mind having 2.1 sense though.

tsalta said:
Dude we talk about WWE ROM because i don`t understand anything from Italian
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Ok...but just try it...
don't do anything else...
I mean...Once I tried a Dutch ROM...I didn't understand a word...but I could watch how that ROM was...
now you should do the same...try how do you feel with that ROM and let me know what you think about it...and we could talk through PM...
and then reflash with a WWE ROM... ok?

Kenia1234 said:
Ok...but just try it...
don't do anything else...
I mean...Once I tried a Dutch ROM...I didn't understand a word...but I could watch how that ROM was...
now you should do the same...try how do you feel with that ROM and let me know what you think about it...and we could talk through PM...
and then reflash with a WWE ROM... ok?
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Why to speak over PM for that reason i open a Thread everyone to can say what he/she think about this, so i dont mind to try the rom if there was avalible WWE translation of the ROM because i can see its good but what to do then? just Nothing.
And i don`t like the idea because few times you mention i can translate it if i have reason Also to write you in PM witch not sound GOOD.

R-Tech said:
I totally agree with you, would be nice if a chef could cook this up for us
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me too

tsalta said:
Why to speak over PM for that reason i open a Thread everyone to can say what he/she think about this, so i dont mind to try the rom if there was avalible WWE translation of the ROM because i can see its good but what to do then? just Nothing.
And i don`t like the idea because few times you mention i can translate it if i have reason Also to write you in PM witch not sound GOOD.
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you could try and tell me what you think...
I just meant that if you liked the ROM and there were some other people willing for this I would have considered the idea to develop a WWE version...
that's all...
I simply don't understand this :
tsalta said:
not sound GOOD.
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What do YOU mean??
I was not asking for anything...I just wanted to answer to your question...
and I believe that talk through PM is easier...but if you wanna talk in this thread I obiouvsly agree...
I just wanted to know if you like it...
that's all...
if you hate PM write in this thread!!

Faster ROM is needed!!!
I was about to post something similar. Lately I've been quite disappointed with the performance of my Blackstone, especially the latest ROMs. I think too much attention is being paid to introducing new features from the latest devices at the expense of the speed. The lack of speed is quite frankly makes a device totally unusable despite all the new features.
To the OP: I'm not sure if it's a Sense/TF3D issue, as these can be either disabled or installed separately, but totally agree with bringing up the subject.

The most clean rom: Mario super lite (WM6.1 & WM6.5).
They are old builds but very stable and low memory & power eating.
I have tried most of roms from cookers here but always go back to these two.(Keep backups from two roms.) Now I using wm6.1 with SPB Mobile SHELL.

User X said:
I was about to post something similar. Lately I've been quite disappointed with the performance of my Blackstone, especially the latest ROMs. I think too much attention is being paid to introducing new features from the latest devices at the expense of the speed. The lack of speed is quite frankly makes a device totally unusable despite all the new features.
To the OP: I'm not sure if it's a Sense/TF3D issue, as these can be either disabled or installed separately, but totally agree with bringing up the subject.
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The TF3D is very very fast and Smooth so the diference is that the icons are not coloured but you can do it with a single cab also there have not my location service on the weather tab and you dont have the weather under the clock in the home screen but i ask myself HOW many times i watch the weather in the home tab under the clock? the question is Never all we can agree its more eye candy and beautyfull but is not usefull and many other things in the new SENSE are just for eye candy so befor a long time when i was using old TF3D i still remember for example when i tab to update the weather via WiFi the weather Update for around a half seconds WOWWW now with all the new SENSE things.. all the tabs are much more slower you need to wait the weather to be Updated and things like this.. Also i miss in the Album tab the Auto Rotation i can`t believe that this was removed from the new Builds because this was really usefull i mean when you click to see some image and you rotate the screen the image fit the whole screen really fast no matter how you rotate the screen, i dont know why this was removed...
Many peoples will say you can do this for example with G-config but the question is why to use 3rd Apps to make something that is made to be like this by default also the Auto rotation of the Album was really fast and smooth without delay.
Now with all this knowlage i mean the CFC Compression and all other regs tweak that we know and new Stuffs i can`t imagine what will be if someone create such a ROM WM 6.5 Based with Copmressed TF3D also can be compresed the Phone Canvas the dialer Images to be lighter and the whole graphics...to be compressed for example see the Blackstonehange ROM`s how they are smaller size than all other because of this compression of all images under windows.
This can be really a Rocket ROM for everday use..
There already have clean ROM`s without Manila and Titatnium.. Okay they are clean ROM`s but honestly is bored to use such as big screen without good UI and you need to use Apps like SPB Shell or other like that to have some UI because is ugly to have one empty big screen without a UI..
I think that the Manila UI is a good also the new SENSE is good but its not made for us.. and the Blackstone feel confortable with the old TF3D so with all this new things coming to the forum and all cooking expirience im sure that now someone can create really a Rocket ROM and you to feel Speed,Smoothnes,response time and to Enjoy the Blackstone to love to scrolling and to love to use it.. not to wait 5 seconds the Music in the Music tab to be loaded and things like this...
I Hope someone really to create some kind of HYBRID ROM from all the Best in one simple ROM

tsalta said:
... i know there is avalible ROM like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632
from Topix but its Old Build...
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Thanks for this! I like it! I might keep it
A perfect example of what we're talking about. I don't care about autorotations and stuff like that. If I did I would get an iPhone I guess . Speed and stability that's what it should be all about!

Ummm, yes...
I'm waiting to see what will happen here:
TOPIX_Kwbr_Win 6.5_Ver_21877 + TouchFLO3D 2.1.38411.0 (supposedly Kwbr will update this once he gets his HD working) and here: [ROM][WM6.5/6.5.x][21903/23116][WWE][UC] Clean ROM v. T1.0/B1.0*****03.05.2010*****
But I really like Manila 2.1.19212117.2 which is cooked in Wajk's ROMs.
It handles contacts and mail accounts much more to my liking than TF3D.
But I'll watch this thread too...

Bodisson said:
Ummm, yes...
I'm waiting to see what will happen here:
TOPIX_Kwbr_Win 6.5_Ver_21877 + TouchFLO3D 2.1.38411.0 (supposedly Kwbr will update this once he gets his HD working) and here: [ROM][WM6.5/6.5.x][21903/23116][WWE][UC] Clean ROM v. T1.0/B1.0*****03.05.2010*****
But I really like Manila 2.1.19212117.2 which is cooked in Wajk's ROMs.
It handles contacts and mail accounts much more to my liking than TF3D.
But I'll watch this thread too...
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If anyone can integrate MY location Services from the Sense to the Touch FLO 3D this sill be Incredible and will be the best choice at all here you can read why NOW i prefer SENSE than the Touch FLO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6523309&postcount=200