May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
@icsulescu: Mostly I agree with you. But I think that TF3D 2.5 can be ported to 6.1 with all benefits and it would not be difficult for the Touch HD to handle it. Now I use the Topix 3.2.1 ROM which, with TF3D on is using 38% of memory.
I was very disappointed with the 6.5 ROMs which, let's face it, are very slow compared to the 6.1 ROMs, though TF3D 2.5 is eye-candy and has more features. (Twitter, Footprints, etc)
IMHO, Sense is not 6.5 dependent and the Touch HD should handle it pretty well with a 6.1 ROM. I say that thinking about the fact that Sense is somehow multiplatform... We have SenseUI on Android devices and TF3D 2.5 on Windows Mobile devices. In the WM 2.1 version of the TF3D we have the weather tab which has animated weather information therefore i cannot think that there isn't any way of pasting it in the home tab.
TF3D was not entirely rewritten. Most of the tabs are the same in the 2.5 version, with small design changes, but mainly they are alike.
The home tab also had an up-swipe but now we have shortcuts instead of appointments list.
The people tab: the 2D layout is the same with the one in M2D...
The SMS and Mail tabs... small changes in the mail tab (masks for messages)
The calendar tab: a little extra work was done
The internet tab: thumnails for bookmarks. Again... I don't think is OS dependent
Stocks: Is there anyone using this tab?
Photos and videos: No news
Music: Coverflow alike. Drivers dependent, far from impossible on 6.1
Weather: Size and layering issues, far from impossible on 6.1
Settings: Even M2D on 6.1 handles it excellent
Programs: c'mon...
There are a few commercial and free UI replacements for 6.1 that are far more smooth and faster than stock TF3D. Take SPB Mobile Shell with superb transitions and effects as example or the more customisable Wisbar Advanced Desktop...
Workin on ROM...
Hi icsulescu !
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I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
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You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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Nice to see that somebody care.. anyhow thanks ... hope that you will release a wwe version to; is not to hard for you let the XDA readers test it..
And no kneading the stock 6.1 rom for my phone is 38% after boot
Regards,
Me
P.S how is your OP?
All the best
Hi icsulescu !
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P.S how is your OP?
All the best
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OPs on Teeths are not so good ... it´s a torture ... pain ... and i´am bleeding out of my mouth ....
But yet ... i´am feelin fine, thanks !
CU
TOggER
Hmmmmm.....
.....as far as I follow this part of the forum for some time...... it seems that we get somewhere to block ourselves ....not so much improvement...some trying to get sense 2.5 but still due to HTC messaging (Thanks HTC I will buy another HTC soon...) Sense 2.5 is not suitable for HD1; WM 6.5 to expensive for " old" HD……;
other 6.5.x for testing...but who cares for the people who bought a high end phone, that were more expensive then a laptop?! and in 5-7 month was already dead (at least in my case)……..
Any how I do appreciate a lot all the effort that XDA developers and user are doing and I do THANK YOU ALL!!
OK so...let’s move on...keep on going...
Regards,
Me
icsulescu said:
May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
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I totally agree with you. If you´re looking for a stabel and fast ROM for you HD, WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1 is a good choice. The newer Manila may be a nice toy, but it wasn´t made for the processor of the HD.
So, kwbr´s ROMs seem to be that what you´re searching for. Only in his latest he integrated WM 6.5. All others before werde WM 6.1 with Sense 2.1 (some with weather and some without).
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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TOggER .. really looking forward to your WWE English version of this ROM. I tried Miri's 6.1 with Sense 2.5 but while great was *slow*.
I tried your ROM too and got Sense in English but I need the underlying ROM in English too as my German sucks ;-)
I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
Cheers.
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I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
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That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
4li said:
That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
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+1 !!
We should request that HTC made an updated ROM for our HD, with Manilla 2.1, with the WM 6.1. They wouldn't have the "Microsoft excuse" since the OS would still be the 6.1
Has anyone tried kwbr's Topix 3.1.2?
It is WM 6.1 with Manila 2.1, fast, reliable, you have huge amounts of free memory and the battery lasts very long. I have used it for weeks with no issues at all.
3.1.2 is finalized.
At the moment, kwbr is cooking Topix 3.2.X versions with WM 6.5, but old 3.1.2 with WM 6.1 is still available for download.
wm 6.1 with sense 2.5
found it on google Miri_WM61_21054_Manila_2.5_V3.0.rar.it's good rom
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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i tried your v0.4 and it's awesome. can you pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase translate to wwe. i would do it if know how.
thanks
Related
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
Anfloyd said:
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
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The title of each rom generally states date and if you open rom thread it will tell you whether it is based on 6.1 or 6.5 etc
Open rom thread and read details of thread.
prynhawn da! - good afternoon!
Anfloyd said:
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
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try Laurentius 3.55 ROM based on windows 6.1, freaking fast mate, the fastest one yet and i've used quite a lot of cooked ROMs already this is as of today the fastest 6.1 i've used. Dutty's 6.5R6 is really fast as well. see daerons benchmarks. prynhawn da!
jigners said:
try Laurentius 3.55 ROM based on windows 6.1, freaking fast mate, the fastest one yet and i've used quite a lot of cooked ROMs already this is as of today the fastest 6.1 i've used. Dutty's 6.5R6 is really fast as well. see daerons benchmarks. prynhawn da!
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Nice one! Funnily enough I had already flashed Laurentius 3.55 and so far am really pleased with it. Like you I've tried a lot of different roms and came to the decision that 6.5 is not for me at the moment. Not as refined as some of the 6.1's here. Onkolongs 6.1 roms are really stable and speedy but he hasn't seemed to have updated them recently.
Iechyd da!
Maybe not the latest, but definitely my favourite.
Of all the 6.1's I have tried, I am most happy with Dutty's HD V3.9 XT Turbo (TouchFLO 2.0.37911.3).
It's stable, practical, and good looking. From what I have read, it seems to be the most popular 6.1 ROM out there.
I would be very interested if anyone has a preferred 6.1, and for what reason.
I'm not into 6.5 (mainly due to slower speed and less functional use - correct me if I'm wrong), so I really can't see me flashing again for a while. Even if I do, I'm pretty sure I'll come back to this one.
Mattster.
i think kwbr was the longest to stick with 6.1 , and his topix is close to perfection. So you might wanna flash that one
Another vote for Topix 6.1 here. It's a very, very nice ROM. Absolutely no issues whatsoever and liquid smooth at all times.
balane said:
Another vote for Topix 6.1 here. It's a very, very nice ROM. Absolutely no issues whatsoever and liquid smooth at all times.
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+1 for topix
Yes, I tried Topix 3.1.2 but if I remember rightly I found the visuals a little dull compared to Dutty's. I may reflash it to check though.
I must admit, it still bugs me when I compare my HD Touch to the beautifully smooth rotations and transitions on an iphone. Though I enjoy the customisation of HTC and Windows Mobile Devices, it always feels like we are struggling to reach a level of animation that the iphone already has!
Mattster.
Topix is the best so far. Dutty was good also but I think its outdated, and topix is more stable and smooth.
So +1 for topix.
barisahmet said:
Topix is the best so far. Dutty was good also but I think its outdated, and topix is more stable and smooth.
So +1 for topix.
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Another vote for Topix 3.12 for a WM6.1 rom
Very stable and a logical program access system
This is the last WM6.1 rom that has been cooked by anyone
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
rpimps said:
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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What about the fact that 6.5 is more finger friendly than 6.1?
band27 said:
What about the fact that 6.5 is more finger friendly than 6.1?
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But WM6.1 is faster and I personally use my HD mainly through Manila interface, so simply I don't need some resources eating monster underneath
rpimps said:
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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A german cook has a 6.1 rom with manilla 2.1 but it's a german rom. i tried to replace the mui files with wwe ones but i am afraid i dont know nothing about cooking. if somebody can do it it will be perfect because it's a very stable and fast rom.
khanem said:
A german cook has a 6.1 rom with manilla 2.1 but it's a german rom. i tried to replace the mui files with wwe ones but i am afraid i dont know nothing about cooking. if somebody can do it it will be perfect because it's a very stable and fast rom.
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You can have a look at this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596767&highlight=language). It should help you to change the language files.
rpimps said:
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
mh297 said:
Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
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before people ask, you can find it here
password=topix version 3.0.2
ClydeB1 said:
You can have a look at this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596767&highlight=language). It should help you to change the language files.
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i want to change winmo language and not only manilla (the later can be done with a registry mod). if you can point me to a good guide for it i will be grateful.
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Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
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I didn't think you could do that with 6.1? Every time I've seen it it's with wm6.5 manila 2.1, where it basically looks like 6.1 it just has a box around the clock with the current weather icon/temperature underneath the clock.
sorry for noobie query - where to find TF3D v2.5 (e.g. DIAMOND2) for my TouchPRO (.cab only)?
It hasn't been ported, or converted, as of yet.
If you mean the actual TF3D 2.5 then there is port in the works ( [PRJ] MuttiM Manila 2.5 VGA Port (BETA) )and these guys have actually released a ROM using the new TF3D (it is a bit buggy right now, but cool to try)
If you are talking about just the TF3D that is on Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2 then most of the ROM's in the ROM development section are using the new Gen.Y TF3D 2.1
I am currently using NRG's "warhawk" ROM that uses the TF3D 2.1 port which is absolutely amazing.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: oops, just realized that you only want a cab installation (it is not recommended for installing these new TF3D's), but I am sure you can find it if you search for it. I still recommend just flashing a ROM.
hi
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
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the cm-xor rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493657 has touchflo 2.5 as well... i tried it for a few days and it works well.
even in landscape ? last rom I tested with 2.5 was not rotating tf3d when opening the keyboard.
flooorian said:
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
[email protected]
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you're mad stupid, they haven't released and you need one? you need a bowl of ****
hahahahahahha funniest comment i have ever come across...noobies
Broman400 said:
you're mad stupid, they haven't released and you need one? you need a bowl of ****
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Microsoft just released WinMo 6.5 some days ago and my first 6.5 Rom was... hell... don't know... january? ;P
There are already several ROMs with 2.5 here... not that much in VGA yet, but i hope we'll see more in close future.
I just loaded a Rom with 2.5 in my XPeria...
flooorian said:
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
[email protected]
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you my friend is desperate, if you want it go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560745
its your only option, oh wait...it says nearly current port status
if you want the TF3D by itself, youre outta luck, youre gonna need alot of patients, all the chefs and everyone else has a life outside the net world, do something thatll pass the time and itll be out before you know it, but dont expect it to be a perfect build.....
btw posting your own email makes you look crazy
Hi need some advice - and yes have searched the forums but there is so much different advice and opinions and it is all over the place and some bit hard to understand points that I just want a "simple" answer...
Cheers everyone...
Yes
Lol, no try a couple and see what you think, read the first few posts on the thread to see what it's about and the last few in the thread to find out about the opinions of the users. Can't be more simple than that Good luck.
The one u like more.
Start trying with the ones with more hits. leave the newer ones for the end.
Have some fun, installing a lot of new roms its part of the fun.
Hi,
There are several ROM's overhere.
I was also searching trying and looking for the best and fastest with 2.5.
If you want the looks and customization of manilla than you have to try this:
- Leo Energyrom (including MaxManilla for manilla customization)
- Xannytech Grid Evolution
For a stable rom with manilla 2.5 try this:
- Balaji WM 6.5 23540
- Mikenificent 8.0 (This is a Dutch rom)
- *** MARYONE ***
- BlackDragon 2.1.1 Speed King (Fast rom but without the fingerfriendly buttons on the bottom)
Manilla 2.1 roms (your HD will be faster)
- blackSTONEhenge™
- ★ Energy "Phoenix 2" (This one has also very nice looks )
- [Park's ROM][Sense 2.1/2.5] This one has both
Hope this will help you for making a dission.
The rom's are my personal opinion and if I forgot one......
I'ts just personal I don't use them
ive found kwbr's topix 3.5.5 to be pretty fast
whichever roms u try... the ones with sense 2.5 and No Htc messenging will perform better as the htc messenging really slows down our hd.... btw give a try to miniterrors ravage V4.1 for me currently thts the best rom.. without htc messenging version of course =)
Thanks for all the replies so far guys... really interasting and good to know what everyones thoughts are!!!
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ive found kwbr's topix 3.5.5 to be pretty fast
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Agreed ..... kwbr's Topix 3.5.5
i tried 5 diferent rooms and finally i found miri without htc messaging it is the best for me , during last 3 weeks only one problem with restart and the rest is working perfectly ( even if we are speaking about shi... windows)
Opinionated threads like yours are generally closed as they are frowned upon in XDA do to everyone having different tastes and opinions thus creating endless long threads.
You have already been told a number of roms to try which should help you, but my advice would be to try a few and see what you like/dislike then try other roms which have the things you like so you can make your own opinion on which is best manila 2.5 rom for you
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Friends,
It seems that this recent hype of WM 6.5 has distracted us from enjoying the full power of our Blackstones... We all know that WM 6.1 with runs smooth to the max.
Can someone please provide me a link to one of the better, clutter free 6.1 ROM... these seem to have submerged to the deepest bowels of XDA itself and have proved extremely difficult to find.
I used to use onkolog light ROM but all links are dead.
Thank you for your help.
try dutty, miri or phamquang rom... it close to basic...
Have a look at kwbr's Topix ROMs here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
He has 2 WM6.1 ROMs at v3.5 - one with Manila with sense and one with Manila without sense.
nirpaudyal said:
Friends,
It seems that this recent hype of WM 6.5 has distracted us from enjoying the full power of our Blackstones... We all know that WM 6.1 with runs smooth to the max.
Can someone please provide me a link to one of the better, clutter free 6.1 ROM... these seem to have submerged to the deepest bowels of XDA itself and have proved extremely difficult to find.
I used to use onkolog light ROM but all links are dead.
Thank you for your help.
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Just try the ROMs un my Signature!
WBR
Siemens Lover
nirpaudyal said:
I used to use onkolog light ROM but all links are dead.
Thank you for your help.
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Clean WM 6.1 roms:
RS link to the latest Onkolog Superlite rom.
Panosha Black Pearl Clean , Thread
John Patcher's Barebone
Anyway, I would recommend a Topix WM 6.1 rom, just disable Manila and you have the best "clean" WM 6.1 rom you can ever get.
Or, why not blow the dust of Damn Small Topix ? Might be fun
I tried many ROMs, but I've always returned to this one because of it's speed and smoothness even while using manila - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537948 Laurentius26 is the best!
Hi !!
I wonder if there is a rom for the diamond with wm 6.5.X and TF3D1, the first one on diamond ??
because actually i'm a bit nostalgic and so i put the official htc rom with 6.1 but it's not really fingerfriendly =/
I don't think there's one, maybe the old TF3D doesn't work at all on WM6.5.x, i don't know but it's pretty old...
However, there are some WM6.5.x ROMs with HTC Sense, that looks better (that's only my opinion of course) and has the same functions
yeah I agree with you but right now i prefer tf3d and maybe with it i'll have more free ram than with sense ...
beonebiker said:
yeah I agree with you but right now i prefer tf3d and maybe with it i'll have more free ram than with sense ...
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Mmm maybe it's true, i don't know anything about the old TF3D's RAM consuption because i've never used it, i get my Diamond with already a cooked ROM on it...
TF3D 1.2 definitely uses less much less memory than newer versions. I know it works fine with 6.5. With 6.5.x you generally need a program like Interceptor to shift the app up a few pixels. Otherwise, it should work fine.