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For all those who have tried both rom versions.........
Which one do you like better? Why?
What features do you prefer from each?
If I'm not mistaken, the Rhodium version is newer?
It would be nice if someone can explain the major differences between the two versions. Thank you.
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From the words of the Great Laurentius26...........
----Rhodium dialer support landscape and has conference call good for business people.
----Topaz dialer is buggy in landscape
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Good idea! I am using at the moment Dutty's V2.7 (Rhodium) and it works fast and stable. Music works without skippings.
But I'll change to forthcoming V3.0 which is Topaz based and give it a try. Hope the music works also fine.
Yeah, good Thread.
Where are the differences between them?
What does "Topaz" and "Rhodium" actually mean? What is it?
I guess that that are code-names, but for what?
And where are the differneces between a Topaz-based and a Rhodium-based ROM?
Thx in advance
greetz
Topaz and Rhodium are two codenames for htc phones, such as "Blackstone" is for htc HD.
Topaz = Touch Diamond 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=478)
Rhodium = Touch Pro 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=479)
And what are the differences between Topaz TF3D, and Rodhium TF3D ?
yeah infact.. it should be the same.. it's just the new manila v3.0, nothing specific for rhodium over topaz for what I know..
The Rodium has another dialer...which makes conference calls easier. The rest should be the same.
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And what are the differences between Topaz TF3D, and Rodhium TF3D ?
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I have seen every one jumping to Topaz, but any one here knows what is so great abt Topaz TF3D
just because they all new
After some searching around I beleive that the main difference is that the Rhodium Manilla for the phone application has more features than compared to the Topaz Manilla phone app. Everything else seems to be similar.
Take note that Rhodium manilla is released on the Touch Pro 2 which is marketed as more of a business phone. Where as the Topaz manilla is released on the Diamond 2 which is marketed more as media phone. I think somebody mentioned that Rhodium has improved conference calling features.
Anyone want to youtube a video showing off and comparing all Manillas?
Rhodium manila is better in my opinion. It's more black (title images and the new startmenu bg) like the topaz.
I also like the Tmobile rhodium clock which is not flipping but also has no ugly line in the middle of it.
The Tmobile rhodium manila didn't supported CFC in Dutty's 2.7.
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
Anfloyd said:
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
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The title of each rom generally states date and if you open rom thread it will tell you whether it is based on 6.1 or 6.5 etc
Open rom thread and read details of thread.
prynhawn da! - good afternoon!
Anfloyd said:
Anyone able to tell me which seems to be the most up to date 6.1 cooked Rom? Looking for one with the new updated HTC keyboard in if possible.
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try Laurentius 3.55 ROM based on windows 6.1, freaking fast mate, the fastest one yet and i've used quite a lot of cooked ROMs already this is as of today the fastest 6.1 i've used. Dutty's 6.5R6 is really fast as well. see daerons benchmarks. prynhawn da!
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try Laurentius 3.55 ROM based on windows 6.1, freaking fast mate, the fastest one yet and i've used quite a lot of cooked ROMs already this is as of today the fastest 6.1 i've used. Dutty's 6.5R6 is really fast as well. see daerons benchmarks. prynhawn da!
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Nice one! Funnily enough I had already flashed Laurentius 3.55 and so far am really pleased with it. Like you I've tried a lot of different roms and came to the decision that 6.5 is not for me at the moment. Not as refined as some of the 6.1's here. Onkolongs 6.1 roms are really stable and speedy but he hasn't seemed to have updated them recently.
Iechyd da!
Maybe not the latest, but definitely my favourite.
Of all the 6.1's I have tried, I am most happy with Dutty's HD V3.9 XT Turbo (TouchFLO 2.0.37911.3).
It's stable, practical, and good looking. From what I have read, it seems to be the most popular 6.1 ROM out there.
I would be very interested if anyone has a preferred 6.1, and for what reason.
I'm not into 6.5 (mainly due to slower speed and less functional use - correct me if I'm wrong), so I really can't see me flashing again for a while. Even if I do, I'm pretty sure I'll come back to this one.
Mattster.
i think kwbr was the longest to stick with 6.1 , and his topix is close to perfection. So you might wanna flash that one
Another vote for Topix 6.1 here. It's a very, very nice ROM. Absolutely no issues whatsoever and liquid smooth at all times.
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Another vote for Topix 6.1 here. It's a very, very nice ROM. Absolutely no issues whatsoever and liquid smooth at all times.
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+1 for topix
Yes, I tried Topix 3.1.2 but if I remember rightly I found the visuals a little dull compared to Dutty's. I may reflash it to check though.
I must admit, it still bugs me when I compare my HD Touch to the beautifully smooth rotations and transitions on an iphone. Though I enjoy the customisation of HTC and Windows Mobile Devices, it always feels like we are struggling to reach a level of animation that the iphone already has!
Mattster.
Topix is the best so far. Dutty was good also but I think its outdated, and topix is more stable and smooth.
So +1 for topix.
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Topix is the best so far. Dutty was good also but I think its outdated, and topix is more stable and smooth.
So +1 for topix.
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Another vote for Topix 3.12 for a WM6.1 rom
Very stable and a logical program access system
This is the last WM6.1 rom that has been cooked by anyone
The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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What about the fact that 6.5 is more finger friendly than 6.1?
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What about the fact that 6.5 is more finger friendly than 6.1?
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But WM6.1 is faster and I personally use my HD mainly through Manila interface, so simply I don't need some resources eating monster underneath
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The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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A german cook has a 6.1 rom with manilla 2.1 but it's a german rom. i tried to replace the mui files with wwe ones but i am afraid i dont know nothing about cooking. if somebody can do it it will be perfect because it's a very stable and fast rom.
khanem said:
A german cook has a 6.1 rom with manilla 2.1 but it's a german rom. i tried to replace the mui files with wwe ones but i am afraid i dont know nothing about cooking. if somebody can do it it will be perfect because it's a very stable and fast rom.
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You can have a look at this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596767&highlight=language). It should help you to change the language files.
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The only thing I like about 6.5 is how it shows today's weather under the clock on the home screen. I wish someone would make a rom that has that and none of the other added 6.5 features.
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Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
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Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
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before people ask, you can find it here
password=topix version 3.0.2
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You can have a look at this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596767&highlight=language). It should help you to change the language files.
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i want to change winmo language and not only manilla (the later can be done with a registry mod). if you can point me to a good guide for it i will be grateful.
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Do you mean in Manilla/Sense as opposed to WM? If so, kwbr's TOPIX 3.02 provides this functionality using Sense with WM6.1.
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I didn't think you could do that with 6.1? Every time I've seen it it's with wm6.5 manila 2.1, where it basically looks like 6.1 it just has a box around the clock with the current weather icon/temperature underneath the clock.
I'm debating on making a UI ROM. This ROM would contain ALL the most popular UIs for windows mobile. I will try and customize the look of them if people want. Is anyone interested in this???
PS. Of course you know this may eat up a lot of storage memory. I'll try and minimize as much as I can.
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I'm debating on making a UI ROM. This ROM would contain ALL the most popular UIs for windows mobile. I will try and customize the look of them if people want. Is anyone interested in this???
PS. Of course you know this may eat up a lot of storage memory. I'll try and minimize as much as I can.
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Try the basic ones: iFonz+S2U2+S2P, Throttlelauncher+throttlelock, HS++, and of course, Manila!
Hmmm i was thinking more like FEWidgets, PointUI, SPB Mobile shell and TF3D. I'm really not a fan of throttle launcher cause its so freaking slow..
Depending on the performance.. I would love to give it a shot.
I would like to have:
Taskbar Icons,
Background for all Tabs,
Slider Icons,
New Icons set under Start - Like iPhone everything one size within a Sq template. (for WM6.5)
S2U2 cooked into the WM 6.1 ROM
If the ROM is smooth and stable with out any memory leaks and within acceptable RAM usage... I am sure a lot of people would love it.
My 2 Cents.
I would probably base the ROM on WM6.1 but I was going to put tweaks for the interfaces and some basic apps. This would be more of a Find ur UI ROM so u can test them all and to have them all optimized in one rom
I think this is a great idea, and would certainly be interested if it had a nicely set up PointUI with SenseUI suite (I've had issues with it running on my phone).
Throttlelauncher should be speedy enough on this device. It was quite fast on my old Herald, and that thing's ancient. I would probably prefer that there weren't any paid interfaces like Home2 and SPB, since not everyone has a registration for them.
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Throttlelauncher should be speedy enough on this device. It was quite fast on my old Herald, and that thing's ancient. I would probably prefer that there weren't any paid interfaces like Home2 and SPB, since not everyone has a registration for them.
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From what i've seen Throttle launcher is slow and laggy on every device.. I can try it on the TP2 and make a decision. SPB mobile shell is like rated one of the top interfaces for Winmo so i can't leave that out. It gives the people who do use that interface the ability to have a customized ROM for it. I'm personally not a fan but have like 10 coworkers that hate tf3d and love spb.
How about Moto Homescreen or UL for that matter!
Check this thread out try editing the manila 2.6 and making a landscape version and using the latest 2.5/2.1 to try and get it working correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551813
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Check this thread out try editing the manila 2.6 and making a landscape version and using the latest 2.5/2.1 to try and get it working correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551813
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I honestly don't believe that is possible but I can look into it. No one wants to share the Manila 2.6 Packages so there is nothing I can do there.
I'd like it but im sure it would be pretty hard to bundle all that together and still be able to hotswitch between the different today screens.
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I'd like it but im sure it would be pretty hard to bundle all that together and still be able to hotswitch between the different today screens.
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Well they are all like today plugins so you would switch between them the same way u add and remove today plugins...
hi... it seems that 6.1 has been forgotten. Im not a big fan of the eye candy of 6.5, its laggy and after a while... irritating. So i would like to know (if you could provide the links aswell; in xda ofcoz) of the fastest 6.1 rom, with manila preferably. The only main difference i see in 6.5 is the main menu, which makes win mo like every other phone out there. i kinda liked the win mo drop down screen. more authentic and not a rip-off of a knock-off of a carbon copy of a photo copy of all other menus found on all other phones out there.
so just post here which is the best, thanx buddies.
P.S.
why hasn't any one tried to integrate the manila touch flo 3d/ HTC sense from leo onto a more stable base like 6.1? im not a "chef" and i dunno much abt the process of creating roms... im a flasher... (ok that didnt come our right) lol... back to topic... shouldnt it be possible?
if you ported leo sense onto 6.1, it would work faster ...yes?
You tried the rest, now try the best... PCTech4U
Personally I have tried just about every rom on this forum, and the one that I like most is Touch X 10.1 by Mr Rusch.
PCTech4U was okay, and probably a second place in my book but I think Touch x 10.1 beats it.
Super stable, quite fast, excellent battery life.
What more can u ask for?
Until 6.5 ROMs are completely stable and smooth I am also sticking with Touch X
Touch X 10.1? does 10.1 beat 10.8? or are they completely different series all
together?
and trying tech4u also... will c which one comes out on top...
my my... the touch X 10.8 is amazing. fast and stable. pure amazement. will try the rest to find the best...
I use TouchX 10.5... tried every 6.5 rom but they are SLOW..., tried 10.8, 10.1 others... they are fast, but I like 10.5 (I think that it is a bit stable then others)
:/ I use xperia specially as Phone
Touch X 10.1 is totally stable and tested by many people, 10.5 is very stable so far, I haven't found any problems (need the fixer cabs installed, though). It has manila 2.1 with weather on the home tab.
I read that someone was working on a WM6.1 / Leo ROM, but can't remember offhand who it was.. possibly rotastrain, MrRusch or bsp98ht..
thankss ppl... so it seems touch x is the best so far... may it be 10.8, 10.5 or 10.1. im not a big fan of the finger menus though... is there a way to turn it off? ususally they have the option to turn off the menu but i cant find it after looking everywhere.... any ideas?
as said before, touch-x and pctech4u are great
for info though, these three are of note;
outie's rom- LEO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564743
mikedomain's rom- LEO, based on outie's kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4672004
itje's rom- manilla 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575329
the three above unfortunately haven't had much support in terms of bug-fixing or development. it's a shame as for those who aren't fans of 6.5 are missing out on leo. odd, because LEO is so much better on 6.1!!
also, haven't tried it (waiting for LEO) but here is a link to jack's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495708
GO 6.1!!
mazlano27 said:
hi... it seems that 6.1 has been forgotten....
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Nope! CTO: Jack's 6.1 ROM!
mazlano27 said:
thankss ppl... so it seems touch x is the best so far... may it be 10.8, 10.5 or 10.1. im not a big fan of the finger menus though... is there a way to turn it off? ususally they have the option to turn off the menu but i cant find it after looking everywhere.... any ideas?
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Try this got it of touch it 10.1 and works for me.
I had forgotten about outie's kitchen and rom! Thank msc125 for reminding me.. Trying to cook something with it now hoping to get a fast 6.1 with 2.1.1920 out at the end.
thanks n33d for speed. we all need the speed. i have found that touch X 10.8 is more buggy than the 10.5 so im stickin to that... and now with the cab u provided... should be nothing less than perfect!
one thing id like is the xperiatweak 2.0 software so i can change the font on my x1... but i cant seem to open the webpage... possible if some one else could post it here?
and another question, do these custom roms reduce the sensitivity of the track pad...? even when i set the sensitivity to the max it doesnt give more sensitivity like it used to... and in the advance config the values are different for different "scenes", ranging from 8 - 20... any idea abt this?
p.s one thing i realised is that the touch x 10.5 doesnt isnt that stable with the manila TF3D turned off? i guess i have to change the key mapping for the home screen...
GO WM6.1!
another request... is there a cab for the htc apps in these custom roms? like htc album, camera, mp3 cutter etc? and also the new notification bar in all these new roms?
May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
@icsulescu: Mostly I agree with you. But I think that TF3D 2.5 can be ported to 6.1 with all benefits and it would not be difficult for the Touch HD to handle it. Now I use the Topix 3.2.1 ROM which, with TF3D on is using 38% of memory.
I was very disappointed with the 6.5 ROMs which, let's face it, are very slow compared to the 6.1 ROMs, though TF3D 2.5 is eye-candy and has more features. (Twitter, Footprints, etc)
IMHO, Sense is not 6.5 dependent and the Touch HD should handle it pretty well with a 6.1 ROM. I say that thinking about the fact that Sense is somehow multiplatform... We have SenseUI on Android devices and TF3D 2.5 on Windows Mobile devices. In the WM 2.1 version of the TF3D we have the weather tab which has animated weather information therefore i cannot think that there isn't any way of pasting it in the home tab.
TF3D was not entirely rewritten. Most of the tabs are the same in the 2.5 version, with small design changes, but mainly they are alike.
The home tab also had an up-swipe but now we have shortcuts instead of appointments list.
The people tab: the 2D layout is the same with the one in M2D...
The SMS and Mail tabs... small changes in the mail tab (masks for messages)
The calendar tab: a little extra work was done
The internet tab: thumnails for bookmarks. Again... I don't think is OS dependent
Stocks: Is there anyone using this tab?
Photos and videos: No news
Music: Coverflow alike. Drivers dependent, far from impossible on 6.1
Weather: Size and layering issues, far from impossible on 6.1
Settings: Even M2D on 6.1 handles it excellent
Programs: c'mon...
There are a few commercial and free UI replacements for 6.1 that are far more smooth and faster than stock TF3D. Take SPB Mobile Shell with superb transitions and effects as example or the more customisable Wisbar Advanced Desktop...
Workin on ROM...
Hi icsulescu !
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I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
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You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
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Nice to see that somebody care.. anyhow thanks ... hope that you will release a wwe version to; is not to hard for you let the XDA readers test it..
And no kneading the stock 6.1 rom for my phone is 38% after boot
Regards,
Me
P.S how is your OP?
All the best
Hi icsulescu !
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P.S how is your OP?
All the best
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OPs on Teeths are not so good ... it´s a torture ... pain ... and i´am bleeding out of my mouth ....
But yet ... i´am feelin fine, thanks !
CU
TOggER
Hmmmmm.....
.....as far as I follow this part of the forum for some time...... it seems that we get somewhere to block ourselves ....not so much improvement...some trying to get sense 2.5 but still due to HTC messaging (Thanks HTC I will buy another HTC soon...) Sense 2.5 is not suitable for HD1; WM 6.5 to expensive for " old" HD……;
other 6.5.x for testing...but who cares for the people who bought a high end phone, that were more expensive then a laptop?! and in 5-7 month was already dead (at least in my case)……..
Any how I do appreciate a lot all the effort that XDA developers and user are doing and I do THANK YOU ALL!!
OK so...let’s move on...keep on going...
Regards,
Me
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May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
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I totally agree with you. If you´re looking for a stabel and fast ROM for you HD, WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1 is a good choice. The newer Manila may be a nice toy, but it wasn´t made for the processor of the HD.
So, kwbr´s ROMs seem to be that what you´re searching for. Only in his latest he integrated WM 6.5. All others before werde WM 6.1 with Sense 2.1 (some with weather and some without).
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Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
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TOggER .. really looking forward to your WWE English version of this ROM. I tried Miri's 6.1 with Sense 2.5 but while great was *slow*.
I tried your ROM too and got Sense in English but I need the underlying ROM in English too as my German sucks ;-)
I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
Cheers.
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I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
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That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
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That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
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+1 !!
We should request that HTC made an updated ROM for our HD, with Manilla 2.1, with the WM 6.1. They wouldn't have the "Microsoft excuse" since the OS would still be the 6.1
Has anyone tried kwbr's Topix 3.1.2?
It is WM 6.1 with Manila 2.1, fast, reliable, you have huge amounts of free memory and the battery lasts very long. I have used it for weeks with no issues at all.
3.1.2 is finalized.
At the moment, kwbr is cooking Topix 3.2.X versions with WM 6.5, but old 3.1.2 with WM 6.1 is still available for download.
wm 6.1 with sense 2.5
found it on google Miri_WM61_21054_Manila_2.5_V3.0.rar.it's good rom
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
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i tried your v0.4 and it's awesome. can you pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase translate to wwe. i would do it if know how.
thanks