For all those who have tried both rom versions.........
Which one do you like better? Why?
What features do you prefer from each?
If I'm not mistaken, the Rhodium version is newer?
It would be nice if someone can explain the major differences between the two versions. Thank you.
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Update #1
From the words of the Great Laurentius26...........
----Rhodium dialer support landscape and has conference call good for business people.
----Topaz dialer is buggy in landscape
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Good idea! I am using at the moment Dutty's V2.7 (Rhodium) and it works fast and stable. Music works without skippings.
But I'll change to forthcoming V3.0 which is Topaz based and give it a try. Hope the music works also fine.
Yeah, good Thread.
Where are the differences between them?
What does "Topaz" and "Rhodium" actually mean? What is it?
I guess that that are code-names, but for what?
And where are the differneces between a Topaz-based and a Rhodium-based ROM?
Thx in advance
greetz
Topaz and Rhodium are two codenames for htc phones, such as "Blackstone" is for htc HD.
Topaz = Touch Diamond 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=478)
Rhodium = Touch Pro 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=479)
And what are the differences between Topaz TF3D, and Rodhium TF3D ?
yeah infact.. it should be the same.. it's just the new manila v3.0, nothing specific for rhodium over topaz for what I know..
The Rodium has another dialer...which makes conference calls easier. The rest should be the same.
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And what are the differences between Topaz TF3D, and Rodhium TF3D ?
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+1
I have seen every one jumping to Topaz, but any one here knows what is so great abt Topaz TF3D
just because they all new
After some searching around I beleive that the main difference is that the Rhodium Manilla for the phone application has more features than compared to the Topaz Manilla phone app. Everything else seems to be similar.
Take note that Rhodium manilla is released on the Touch Pro 2 which is marketed as more of a business phone. Where as the Topaz manilla is released on the Diamond 2 which is marketed more as media phone. I think somebody mentioned that Rhodium has improved conference calling features.
Anyone want to youtube a video showing off and comparing all Manillas?
Rhodium manila is better in my opinion. It's more black (title images and the new startmenu bg) like the topaz.
I also like the Tmobile rhodium clock which is not flipping but also has no ugly line in the middle of it.
The Tmobile rhodium manila didn't supported CFC in Dutty's 2.7.
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/22/htc-debuts-new-touch-cruise-phone-with-footprints-geotagging/
anyone an idea how to include this, or even better providing cab?
regards
irm
That tab looks cool, want!
Hope new cruise comes soon so it gets ported fast
Edit: Oh new cruise has only QVGA and touchflo 2D. will see then about that tab..
Have patience. All top-of-the-bill HTC phones have TF3D and *all* the functions other HTC phones have. We just have to wait for a newer device than HD or MAX.
Seems kind of pointless to me.
I'm not that forgetful
new polaris rom with footprints: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478029
it's possible to port it on blackstone?
Thanks
scanny said:
new polaris rom with footprints: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478029
it's possible to port it on blackstone?
Thanks
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I included it in my rom last week. It is running but M2D has a wrong resolution for Blackstone so you have to port/photoshop the graphics. Over in the Kaiser or Raphael forum you can download a standalone version of footprints (without M2D).
sorry for noobie query - where to find TF3D v2.5 (e.g. DIAMOND2) for my TouchPRO (.cab only)?
It hasn't been ported, or converted, as of yet.
If you mean the actual TF3D 2.5 then there is port in the works ( [PRJ] MuttiM Manila 2.5 VGA Port (BETA) )and these guys have actually released a ROM using the new TF3D (it is a bit buggy right now, but cool to try)
If you are talking about just the TF3D that is on Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2 then most of the ROM's in the ROM development section are using the new Gen.Y TF3D 2.1
I am currently using NRG's "warhawk" ROM that uses the TF3D 2.1 port which is absolutely amazing.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: oops, just realized that you only want a cab installation (it is not recommended for installing these new TF3D's), but I am sure you can find it if you search for it. I still recommend just flashing a ROM.
hi
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
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the cm-xor rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493657 has touchflo 2.5 as well... i tried it for a few days and it works well.
even in landscape ? last rom I tested with 2.5 was not rotating tf3d when opening the keyboard.
flooorian said:
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
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you're mad stupid, they haven't released and you need one? you need a bowl of ****
hahahahahahha funniest comment i have ever come across...noobies
Broman400 said:
you're mad stupid, they haven't released and you need one? you need a bowl of ****
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Microsoft just released WinMo 6.5 some days ago and my first 6.5 Rom was... hell... don't know... january? ;P
There are already several ROMs with 2.5 here... not that much in VGA yet, but i hope we'll see more in close future.
I just loaded a Rom with 2.5 in my XPeria...
flooorian said:
i need one for my touch diamond. i need only touch flo 3d 2.5. cab only.
please
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you my friend is desperate, if you want it go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560745
its your only option, oh wait...it says nearly current port status
if you want the TF3D by itself, youre outta luck, youre gonna need alot of patients, all the chefs and everyone else has a life outside the net world, do something thatll pass the time and itll be out before you know it, but dont expect it to be a perfect build.....
btw posting your own email makes you look crazy
May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
@icsulescu: Mostly I agree with you. But I think that TF3D 2.5 can be ported to 6.1 with all benefits and it would not be difficult for the Touch HD to handle it. Now I use the Topix 3.2.1 ROM which, with TF3D on is using 38% of memory.
I was very disappointed with the 6.5 ROMs which, let's face it, are very slow compared to the 6.1 ROMs, though TF3D 2.5 is eye-candy and has more features. (Twitter, Footprints, etc)
IMHO, Sense is not 6.5 dependent and the Touch HD should handle it pretty well with a 6.1 ROM. I say that thinking about the fact that Sense is somehow multiplatform... We have SenseUI on Android devices and TF3D 2.5 on Windows Mobile devices. In the WM 2.1 version of the TF3D we have the weather tab which has animated weather information therefore i cannot think that there isn't any way of pasting it in the home tab.
TF3D was not entirely rewritten. Most of the tabs are the same in the 2.5 version, with small design changes, but mainly they are alike.
The home tab also had an up-swipe but now we have shortcuts instead of appointments list.
The people tab: the 2D layout is the same with the one in M2D...
The SMS and Mail tabs... small changes in the mail tab (masks for messages)
The calendar tab: a little extra work was done
The internet tab: thumnails for bookmarks. Again... I don't think is OS dependent
Stocks: Is there anyone using this tab?
Photos and videos: No news
Music: Coverflow alike. Drivers dependent, far from impossible on 6.1
Weather: Size and layering issues, far from impossible on 6.1
Settings: Even M2D on 6.1 handles it excellent
Programs: c'mon...
There are a few commercial and free UI replacements for 6.1 that are far more smooth and faster than stock TF3D. Take SPB Mobile Shell with superb transitions and effects as example or the more customisable Wisbar Advanced Desktop...
Workin on ROM...
Hi icsulescu !
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I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
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You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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Nice to see that somebody care.. anyhow thanks ... hope that you will release a wwe version to; is not to hard for you let the XDA readers test it..
And no kneading the stock 6.1 rom for my phone is 38% after boot
Regards,
Me
P.S how is your OP?
All the best
Hi icsulescu !
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P.S how is your OP?
All the best
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OPs on Teeths are not so good ... it´s a torture ... pain ... and i´am bleeding out of my mouth ....
But yet ... i´am feelin fine, thanks !
CU
TOggER
Hmmmmm.....
.....as far as I follow this part of the forum for some time...... it seems that we get somewhere to block ourselves ....not so much improvement...some trying to get sense 2.5 but still due to HTC messaging (Thanks HTC I will buy another HTC soon...) Sense 2.5 is not suitable for HD1; WM 6.5 to expensive for " old" HD……;
other 6.5.x for testing...but who cares for the people who bought a high end phone, that were more expensive then a laptop?! and in 5-7 month was already dead (at least in my case)……..
Any how I do appreciate a lot all the effort that XDA developers and user are doing and I do THANK YOU ALL!!
OK so...let’s move on...keep on going...
Regards,
Me
icsulescu said:
May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
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I totally agree with you. If you´re looking for a stabel and fast ROM for you HD, WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1 is a good choice. The newer Manila may be a nice toy, but it wasn´t made for the processor of the HD.
So, kwbr´s ROMs seem to be that what you´re searching for. Only in his latest he integrated WM 6.5. All others before werde WM 6.1 with Sense 2.1 (some with weather and some without).
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Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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TOggER .. really looking forward to your WWE English version of this ROM. I tried Miri's 6.1 with Sense 2.5 but while great was *slow*.
I tried your ROM too and got Sense in English but I need the underlying ROM in English too as my German sucks ;-)
I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
Cheers.
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I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
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That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
4li said:
That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
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+1 !!
We should request that HTC made an updated ROM for our HD, with Manilla 2.1, with the WM 6.1. They wouldn't have the "Microsoft excuse" since the OS would still be the 6.1
Has anyone tried kwbr's Topix 3.1.2?
It is WM 6.1 with Manila 2.1, fast, reliable, you have huge amounts of free memory and the battery lasts very long. I have used it for weeks with no issues at all.
3.1.2 is finalized.
At the moment, kwbr is cooking Topix 3.2.X versions with WM 6.5, but old 3.1.2 with WM 6.1 is still available for download.
wm 6.1 with sense 2.5
found it on google Miri_WM61_21054_Manila_2.5_V3.0.rar.it's good rom
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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i tried your v0.4 and it's awesome. can you pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase translate to wwe. i would do it if know how.
thanks
HTC has just released a ROM featuring sense 2.5 (created for the HD2) for the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2. See article on pocketnow.com (click here).
These devices have specifications which are similar to the HD. As the experience on custom ROMs with sense 2.5 has lagged, especially in the messaging application, will this official ROM bring a possibility for new and faster sense for the HD with the software being more optimized for use without the snapdragon processor?
Hopefully at last the HD can feature sense 2.5 with a far more usable and fast experience.
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HTC has just released a ROM featuring sense 2.5 (created for the HD2) for the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2. See article on pocketnow.com (click here).
These devices have specifications which are similar to the HD. As the experience on custom ROMs with sense 2.5 has lagged, especially in the messaging application, will this official ROM bring a possibility for new and faster sense for the HD with the software being more optimized for use without the snapdragon processor?
Hopefully at last the HD can feature sense 2.5 with a far more usable and fast experience.
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The Topaz Sense 2.5 was released a couple of months ago, and there's a Rhodium Sense 2.5 from mid-february too. Yes, they seem to be faster though it's probably just because they lack certain features from the HD2 Sense 2.5 - no ereader, documents or footprints tabs. Take a look at miniterror's rom which is based on Rhodium 2.07.
Rhodium version is 2.07, same as leaked version.
Topaz version is 2.53, same as leaked WWE version (Asia leak = 2.54)
yep i am using those pakages but they where not official
i just came form the rhodium section and it loks like htc has released a official update of the rhodium sense 2.5
if only i had a english s/n number to check out what is changed
would be verry handy as i am rebuilding my kitchen
miniterror said:
yep i am using those pakages but they where not official
i just came form the rhodium section and it loks like htc has released a official update of the rhodium sense 2.5
if only i had a english s/n number to check out what is changed
would be verry handy as i am rebuilding my kitchen
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ohh chris check this out... found it on rhodium forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
the EU version i guess is pretty much a WWE version... u can extract sense 2.5 from it and use it in the next build
Great when are we going to start seeing ROMS created for our HD's with this new update to Sense UI included.
I find the LEO Sense ROMS way to clunky, the document, reader and footprints tabs are all useless to me, simple remove them as soon as I start using a rom...
PLEASE also chefs can you title your roms clearly to state which Sense UI you have cooked inside, this would help a lot.
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Great when are we going to start seeing ROMS created for our HD's with this new update to Sense UI included.
I find the LEO Sense ROMS way to clunky, the document, reader and footprints tabs are all useless to me, simple remove them as soon as I start using a rom...
PLEASE also chefs can you title your roms clearly to state which Sense UI you have cooked inside, this would help a lot.
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Rhodium and Topaz Sense 2.5 Roms have been around for a month or more! I find them much better than the Leo ones (as to be expected).
Hi !!
I wonder if there is a rom for the diamond with wm 6.5.X and TF3D1, the first one on diamond ??
because actually i'm a bit nostalgic and so i put the official htc rom with 6.1 but it's not really fingerfriendly =/
I don't think there's one, maybe the old TF3D doesn't work at all on WM6.5.x, i don't know but it's pretty old...
However, there are some WM6.5.x ROMs with HTC Sense, that looks better (that's only my opinion of course) and has the same functions
yeah I agree with you but right now i prefer tf3d and maybe with it i'll have more free ram than with sense ...
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yeah I agree with you but right now i prefer tf3d and maybe with it i'll have more free ram than with sense ...
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Mmm maybe it's true, i don't know anything about the old TF3D's RAM consuption because i've never used it, i get my Diamond with already a cooked ROM on it...
TF3D 1.2 definitely uses less much less memory than newer versions. I know it works fine with 6.5. With 6.5.x you generally need a program like Interceptor to shift the app up a few pixels. Otherwise, it should work fine.