For all those who have tried both rom versions.........
Which one do you like better? Why?
What features do you prefer from each?
If I'm not mistaken, the Rhodium version is newer?
It would be nice if someone can explain the major differences between the two versions. Thank you.
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Update #1
From the words of the Great Laurentius26...........
----Rhodium dialer support landscape and has conference call good for business people.
----Topaz dialer is buggy in landscape
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Good idea! I am using at the moment Dutty's V2.7 (Rhodium) and it works fast and stable. Music works without skippings.
But I'll change to forthcoming V3.0 which is Topaz based and give it a try. Hope the music works also fine.
Yeah, good Thread.
Where are the differences between them?
What does "Topaz" and "Rhodium" actually mean? What is it?
I guess that that are code-names, but for what?
And where are the differneces between a Topaz-based and a Rhodium-based ROM?
Thx in advance
greetz
Topaz and Rhodium are two codenames for htc phones, such as "Blackstone" is for htc HD.
Topaz = Touch Diamond 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=478)
Rhodium = Touch Pro 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=479)
And what are the differences between Topaz TF3D, and Rodhium TF3D ?
yeah infact.. it should be the same.. it's just the new manila v3.0, nothing specific for rhodium over topaz for what I know..
The Rodium has another dialer...which makes conference calls easier. The rest should be the same.
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And what are the differences between Topaz TF3D, and Rodhium TF3D ?
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+1
I have seen every one jumping to Topaz, but any one here knows what is so great abt Topaz TF3D
just because they all new
After some searching around I beleive that the main difference is that the Rhodium Manilla for the phone application has more features than compared to the Topaz Manilla phone app. Everything else seems to be similar.
Take note that Rhodium manilla is released on the Touch Pro 2 which is marketed as more of a business phone. Where as the Topaz manilla is released on the Diamond 2 which is marketed more as media phone. I think somebody mentioned that Rhodium has improved conference calling features.
Anyone want to youtube a video showing off and comparing all Manillas?
Rhodium manila is better in my opinion. It's more black (title images and the new startmenu bg) like the topaz.
I also like the Tmobile rhodium clock which is not flipping but also has no ugly line in the middle of it.
The Tmobile rhodium manila didn't supported CFC in Dutty's 2.7.
May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
@icsulescu: Mostly I agree with you. But I think that TF3D 2.5 can be ported to 6.1 with all benefits and it would not be difficult for the Touch HD to handle it. Now I use the Topix 3.2.1 ROM which, with TF3D on is using 38% of memory.
I was very disappointed with the 6.5 ROMs which, let's face it, are very slow compared to the 6.1 ROMs, though TF3D 2.5 is eye-candy and has more features. (Twitter, Footprints, etc)
IMHO, Sense is not 6.5 dependent and the Touch HD should handle it pretty well with a 6.1 ROM. I say that thinking about the fact that Sense is somehow multiplatform... We have SenseUI on Android devices and TF3D 2.5 on Windows Mobile devices. In the WM 2.1 version of the TF3D we have the weather tab which has animated weather information therefore i cannot think that there isn't any way of pasting it in the home tab.
TF3D was not entirely rewritten. Most of the tabs are the same in the 2.5 version, with small design changes, but mainly they are alike.
The home tab also had an up-swipe but now we have shortcuts instead of appointments list.
The people tab: the 2D layout is the same with the one in M2D...
The SMS and Mail tabs... small changes in the mail tab (masks for messages)
The calendar tab: a little extra work was done
The internet tab: thumnails for bookmarks. Again... I don't think is OS dependent
Stocks: Is there anyone using this tab?
Photos and videos: No news
Music: Coverflow alike. Drivers dependent, far from impossible on 6.1
Weather: Size and layering issues, far from impossible on 6.1
Settings: Even M2D on 6.1 handles it excellent
Programs: c'mon...
There are a few commercial and free UI replacements for 6.1 that are far more smooth and faster than stock TF3D. Take SPB Mobile Shell with superb transitions and effects as example or the more customisable Wisbar Advanced Desktop...
Workin on ROM...
Hi icsulescu !
icsulescu said:
I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
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You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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Nice to see that somebody care.. anyhow thanks ... hope that you will release a wwe version to; is not to hard for you let the XDA readers test it..
And no kneading the stock 6.1 rom for my phone is 38% after boot
Regards,
Me
P.S how is your OP?
All the best
Hi icsulescu !
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P.S how is your OP?
All the best
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OPs on Teeths are not so good ... it´s a torture ... pain ... and i´am bleeding out of my mouth ....
But yet ... i´am feelin fine, thanks !
CU
TOggER
Hmmmmm.....
.....as far as I follow this part of the forum for some time...... it seems that we get somewhere to block ourselves ....not so much improvement...some trying to get sense 2.5 but still due to HTC messaging (Thanks HTC I will buy another HTC soon...) Sense 2.5 is not suitable for HD1; WM 6.5 to expensive for " old" HD……;
other 6.5.x for testing...but who cares for the people who bought a high end phone, that were more expensive then a laptop?! and in 5-7 month was already dead (at least in my case)……..
Any how I do appreciate a lot all the effort that XDA developers and user are doing and I do THANK YOU ALL!!
OK so...let’s move on...keep on going...
Regards,
Me
icsulescu said:
May be one of the chief it will be willing to work something like that.
From my point of view Sense 2.5 is a little bit to much for our Blackstones and related to OS the drivers that have been created for Blackstone are still for 6.1WM and to be honest I almost forget how it is to have below 39% of memory used at boot up or even less.
Regards,
Me
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I totally agree with you. If you´re looking for a stabel and fast ROM for you HD, WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1 is a good choice. The newer Manila may be a nice toy, but it wasn´t made for the processor of the HD.
So, kwbr´s ROMs seem to be that what you´re searching for. Only in his latest he integrated WM 6.5. All others before werde WM 6.1 with Sense 2.1 (some with weather and some without).
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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TOggER .. really looking forward to your WWE English version of this ROM. I tried Miri's 6.1 with Sense 2.5 but while great was *slow*.
I tried your ROM too and got Sense in English but I need the underlying ROM in English too as my German sucks ;-)
I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
Cheers.
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I think it will be very popular, lot's of us just prefer WM 6.1 but would like a more up to date Manilla
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That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
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That's exactly what I mean. WM 6.1 EN with Manilla 2.1 would be awesome!
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+1 !!
We should request that HTC made an updated ROM for our HD, with Manilla 2.1, with the WM 6.1. They wouldn't have the "Microsoft excuse" since the OS would still be the 6.1
Has anyone tried kwbr's Topix 3.1.2?
It is WM 6.1 with Manila 2.1, fast, reliable, you have huge amounts of free memory and the battery lasts very long. I have used it for weeks with no issues at all.
3.1.2 is finalized.
At the moment, kwbr is cooking Topix 3.2.X versions with WM 6.5, but old 3.1.2 with WM 6.1 is still available for download.
wm 6.1 with sense 2.5
found it on google Miri_WM61_21054_Manila_2.5_V3.0.rar.it's good rom
TOggER said:
Hi icsulescu !
You are Dreamin ... Sense ... 39% Memory ... hey wake up ... i´ve been working on a COMPLETE Stock WM6.1 (WWE ) with SENSE ... and with a full working Sense the Result after Boot is ... 44% and up !
The Sense, without adding more Systemsoft+Settings (GPS,Contacts etc.), works ... but not with all Functions !
It´s a good Choice (WM6.1 + Sense (2.1.1920) but it is not so easy to cook that !
I gave my best to present you a Stock + Sense in WWE ! This takes Time...
So ... Dream on or wait !
New Version of my RetroHD (GER ) is out -->> https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=4669
GRTX
TOggER
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i tried your v0.4 and it's awesome. can you pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase translate to wwe. i would do it if know how.
thanks
Ok let me just start off by THANKING all of the COOKS that make these awesome Roms for all us users to use.....But I was wondering if anyone could just make a simple rom for me....I Have the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium) with the new WM 6.5 Update....all I want is that some Rom but with Htc Sense 2.5 so i can have the awesome weather animation...and the custom tabs on homescreen.....THANKS!!!
what do you mean by simple? they are all pretty much the same in the sense that they are 2.5 sense and 6.5 winmo if your looking in that category... if you want somthing plain look for some roms that have a lite version. those usually just come with the basic things you need to run your phone.
imo there is no 2.5 sence for me that is bug free enough to use all of the time. i would say nrg or valk have the closest ones. im sure other people may disagree.
Any way to get the Twitter and Footprint tabs on the Official 6.5 ROM that came out yesterday?
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Any way to get the Twitter and Footprint tabs on the Official 6.5 ROM that came out yesterday?
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what is the footprint tab exactly
No, the Twitter and Footprints tab that you see are actually part of an entirely new version of HTC Sense. (Touch Flo 3D) This version of sense, 2.5 and above is made for the HTC HD2 and is made to take advantage of the 1ghz snapdragon processor.
Our devices, the Touch Pro2, is made to run HTC Sense 2.1 and below. (Touch Flo 3D) The update brought your device to Windows Mobile 6.5 and your Sense to version 2.1. (Touch Flo 3D)
No official roms for the Touch Pro2 will include Sense 2.5 because it is simply not made to run on our slower devices. You can however load a custom rom, complete with Sense 2.5 ripped from a HD2 rom.
I am looking for a rom with sense 2.1 on wm6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
but one with the weather on the front...
Place a Request
Friend! What you are looking for was developed by @Jackos
Its called Jackos WM6.1 21048 Hybrid Sense 2.1
You will need to request him to post it for you to download. It has few minor bugs (but one can do with it). Try it, I think you will like it - Its fast and pretty stable too.
tried it...in fact used it.... and of course loved it too.... But I personally prefer the SPB Mobile Shell interface a bit over Sense. Only eye candy in the Sense interface is the weather animation, which i have learned to live without.
Regards,