What is the best way to make the installed programs to survive ROM updates and hard resets.
Currently, I try to install as many programs in Storage Card as possible. Then I save \Windows\Start Menu\Programs.
After hard reset or ROM change, I just copy \Windows\Start Menu\Programs back. Many programs do start working without reinstall, but some do need re-install.
How do you save yourself from effort of re-install ?
Please don't post general ?'s in ROM section, SASHIMI will auto install all your progs after flash and like you say replacing Windows\Start Menu.
Thankyou.
stylez said:
Please don't post general ?'s in ROM section, SASHIMI will auto install all your progs after flash and like you say replacing Windows\Start Menu.
Thankyou.
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Stylez, thanks. Nice app.
BTW, I posted Qs here thinking that Qs is related to ROM development, my bad.
Moved you over to kaiser general. Do some searching on Windows Mobile backup applications. There are a couple commercially available.
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I'm just starting to get into the depths of my PDA2K and this site is GREAT!!!!!!! Since I'm just one step up from "The Village Idiot", I have a couple questions for all you pros.
After reading about using the extended ROM, and unlocking it and seeing what's in there, I think I've figured it out. Whatever CABs are listed in the config file will be installed upon a hard reset....correct? If true, and since I have only 3.5MB left in Ex ROM, can I put the other CABs I wanted installed in say /storage/CABs, list them in the config file and upon a hard reset they will be installed? Is there any reason to put them into Extended ROM rather than Storage? Is it alright to put CABs in from like games, Resco Explorer, WebIS Mail, etc.? Lastly is there a way to set the programs up where I don't have to go back and enter all the registration numbers again?
Thanks a ton for your help!!!
Tom
In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.
cruisin-thru said:
In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.
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is it possible then to keep the installation cabs on storage card,
and also, can that path be set in the config file in ext rom?
what happens if a particular cab is not found after hard reset?
is the installation stuck or it just gives a warning and keeps on going to the next cab listed in the list.
Have a read of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=83119#83119
It might be a bit to deep but should help you along the way.
1) You can keep a cab anywere you want
2) make sure your cab is read only as it can delete itsself after install.
3) to run a auto install from a differnet storage place you need to hack the reg (see thread).
In all if you have a sd card you could leave your EXt rom empty.
Hack the reg to the new postion and run the Autorun from there.
Have fun
Thanks for all the infor everyone! From what I've read in other threads I need to make sure that TPdisabled is set to off so that when programs like WebIS Mail and SplashID get installed I can touch the screen to make sure they install into the right place and other things. Correct? If this is correct, should I just remove TPdisabled all together?
Thanks again,
Tom
TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem
MDAIIIUser - Thanks for the link! I looked at it and you're right, it's pretty indepth and I'll have to read it more closely at a later time....like at work.
Question1: leochan2005 had a follow-up saying "why not use backup"? While I agree this would be easier, I'm assuming that by using your method one would get a much "cleaner" install than backing up all the crap that was on the system prior to the hard reset...correct?
Question2: It took me a long time to get my TMo settings setup on my PDA2K and I don't want to go thru that again. Is there a way to backup those settings so that they can be auto-configured at a later time? I read about making a personalsettings.CAB but haven't done it yet.
Thanks,
Tom
MDAIIIUser said:
TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem
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Thanks! I take it it should be at the beginning of the config file so that I can access it. Correct?
q1)
Well the short of "why not use backup" is you can if you feel that:
1) Restoring Regedit values from a lower rom version
2) Restoring system applications form a lower rom version such as BT
are called for, wanted or even needed.
I fail to see that point as a upgrade is an upgrade and a backup is a backup. Now you could do a restore of your system data also (which you could also sync and that would be clean
Q2)
Most fo those settings are part of T-mobile.cabs found in Extrom, the rest would have been reg entries that you are going to have to hunt for and copy.
So sorry no way around reading the other thread (personalsettings.CAB)
MDAIIIUser - Maybe I should state what I'm trying to accomplish and you could give me a clue as to how to do it. A couple days ago I upgraded by BT on my PDA2K (generic from Expansys) to 1.0.0.3900 (or what ever the latest is) and I'm currently looking at upgrading my radio to 1.12, but that would require a hard reset. I'm not in the mood to go thru all the program installs and SMS/MMS tweaking again, so I'm trying to figure out the best way to get all my programs and configurations back after the hard reset. I thought by incorporating the personalsettings.cab (for my Tmo settings) and your method I would be up and running pretty quickly. Yes? I have Sprite Backup, but I'm not sure if that's going to overwrite anything after the radio upgrade????
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Well my logic (that could be wrong) would say that a restore of your backup would get you to were you are now.
That you would need a restore as you have to do a hard reset after the 1.12 radion install.
But I can't answer the question will the radio be restored as well,
I don't know, I don't know the settings in the backup application, so am sorry I will have to let somebody else answer this one.
Hi,
I need some assistance. I am currently cooking my extended rom. My Extended rom does not have enough space so, i am putting some of my MUST HAVE softwares in my storage so that it installs after a HARD RESET.
But, most .cab files will auto delete upon launch. Is there any way to make
it not delete ? Kindly assist.
Thanx a million
You can avoid the CAB files being deleted by making them read-only.
Well i mean that there is a Registry hack that will not delete .cab's on installation, but you would have to make a .cab with that registry setting and install it as the first thing after hardreset, although i dont think it will work since the registry is already loaded, and the new setting require a reboot to work.
Look in Wiki for registry hacks.
So why dont you just Write protect the .cab's that you want to hold on to
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Well i mean that there is a Registry hack that will not delete .cab's on installation, but you would have to make a .cab with that registry setting and install it as the first thing after hardreset, although i dont think it will work since the registry is already loaded, and the new setting require a reboot to work.
Look in Wiki for registry hacks.
So why dont you just Write protect the .cab's that you want to hold on to
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i have tried that but, dont work
All my "wanna hang on to" .cab's are write protected, and non of them get deleted upon installation.
Manuel installation that is.
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Well i mean that there is a Registry hack that will not delete .cab's on installation, but you would have to make a .cab with that registry setting and install it as the first thing after hardreset, although i dont think it will work since the registry is already loaded, and the new setting require a reboot to work.
Look in Wiki for registry hacks.
So why dont you just Write protect the .cab's that you want to hold on to
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ermm.. how do i go about it... i wanna auto install stuff like Pocket Informant , SPB Pocket Plus and my must have s/w upon hard reset
Thats why i need to coookkk
I have room enoughf in my ExtRom, so I have never auto installed from other than the ExtRom.
But I'm almost 100% sure that there was a topic on auto installing from \Storage (Card) sometime ago.
Maybee youll find some info in the Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_RomKitchen
bosjo said:
I have room enoughf in my ExtRom, so I have never auto installed from other than the ExtRom.
But I'm almost 100% sure that there was a topic on auto installing from \Storage (Card) sometime ago.
Maybee youll find some info in the Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_RomKitchen
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well, i dont seem to find anything of what i am looking for
Wait a day or two, maybe someone who knows come along.
You can use a software name Cabinst wich let you install a cab without deleting it.
Easy.
Hi,
Easiest way is to make cab read only. Browse the storage card using PC via activesync. Right click on cab file. Go to properties and make it readonly.
You can also change the deafult beahvior of Instal by changing registry key.
Shikra said:
Hi,
Easiest way is to make cab read only. Browse the storage card using PC via activesync. Right click on cab file. Go to properties and make it readonly.
You can also change the deafult beahvior of Instal by changing registry key.
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change which part of it ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16377
M4io said:
in browsing my editor i stumbled upone these :
Code:
[\HKLM\SOFTWARE\Apps\Microsoft Application Installer]
fAskDest=0
fAskOptions=0
fEnablCef=0
nDynamicDelete=2
Supported="PALM PC"
* fAskDest=1 gives you a popup when you install a CAB so you can install on Storage Card for example
* fAskOptions=1 asked before overwriting, haven't found out if/what other options
*fEnableCef : I haven't messed around with that
* nDynamicDelete=0 and the CAB file remains, =1 it disappears but what the difference with the default value 2 is I couldn't figure out.
So if anyone else wants to experiment with it and post their findings
I searched Google but all I could find was about fAskDest
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keep the ext rom empty,
after reboot hack the reg to point to new area.
Run the autorun from threre.
Have all files as read only.
info under
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=83119#83119
Only problem is that all cabs are installed in the default location.
I have yet to get cabinstall to run in batch mode using the nscript tool.
Hope its what you are after
is it possible to make an already full patched(button fix,camera,bluetooth,etc) rom with all basic programs (such as mms client,stk,backlight,etc)?
i think yes but i'm not able to make it..it will be very usefull for newbies such me..
with this full rom you do not need to post lots of duplicated threads and all will works since the beginning..
yeah i would like that to,
so we only have to install it without patching and so
very good idea!!!!
but now, apart the Wiki, there is a list of all patchs that must be installed?!
'cause I don't have enough time to read alle the pages in WM5 problem resolutions thread
well,
so far, i created a project for a extended rom under wm2005.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Extended_ROM
Butt im stuck, it will not install off the rom after a hard reset.
If this would be working we do not have to worry anymore if we forgot or lost our sd card for the neccesary patches.
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
and a set of default programs:
pdf reader
xscaler
pocketplus
pocketrar
etc..
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
It has to work first.
So anybody already found a working autorun.exe and config.txt files?
I Tried alot of those two, but still not able to get it working under te extended rom after a hard reset.
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I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..
flagg said:
efjay said:
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..
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Yes i dont have to use it; but if the patches are no longer released separately then i have no choice. If there is a choice of all-in-one rom and non-patched that will be ok. But you have to think of who creates the rom, it may be easier just to maintain one rom version. I guess we have to wait and see..
@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/
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@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/
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Not yet, preparing my device now, autorun is 17kb from this one
setup is 104kb, looks common, exept the dates are a bit older.
Manually launching the autorun of files on the extended rom will work, so i guess that i have to do a hardreset again, thats what i going to do later the evening. lol 8)
:evil: :evil:
No luck. wil not automaticly run.
Still need to make the rom visible and run the autorun.exe for the installs.
But this is the nearest solution for now i guess.
So you still need a single cabfile on a sd card to unhide your rom and install all files on there.
If anybody knows the bytes to change in the nbk or nbf files or maybe in the bootstrap, the adaption could be completed and the patches would automaticly install after a hardreset. .
please don't OT
...so
dev can make all in one rom and single patch
flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
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ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!
i for one would love an all encompassing rom patch. reading through all the duplicate posts and other resolutions is a real hassle for noobs. we see the same questions being asked every 3 days or so and it just creates more clutter for the other noobs to sift through. i figure a lot of those fixes should be included in the next patch of the current wm5 rom anyhow if people rather wait for that to come around.
Closer said:
flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
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ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!
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nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
we are all noob..we are all waiting for you :lol:
if ppl want to install single patch one by one they can do that
but i think that for noobs this is such as an "official" rom
tested and approved from xda devs
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz
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did not work, did the autorun in a folder called 2577. cab files on the root.
did a hard reset, but would still not install.
The screen of the 3sec before install wont pop up
But after i made my extended rom visible, it automaticly runs after a soft reset.(the 3sec screen pops up )
(last problem?)
But i'm going to get some sleep now, maybe that will help a bit :shock:
flagg said:
nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
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OK! now I'm ready to flash with Mamaich Patch 3 ..
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.
mamaich said:
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.
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ok, then put that folder on your SD card.
buzz
Ihave treid searching to no avail... is there a way for the average Joe to remove some of the unwanted programs from ROM... Like powerpoint excel and a few others... Please let me know it would seriuosly help me out...
Dream
No. You would have to edit the rom on a desktop computer and then reflash it to your device... There are software available for this if you want to give it a try. Check out the development section.
There is no way to do so...
if you don't want them to show up in your start menu, then just remove their links from /windows/Start menu
Is it possible to remove some of the apps installed along wth the ROM, as they don't show in remove programs. Or is it as simple as deleting the program folder, or will that leave crud behind?
stu1978 said:
Is it possible to remove some of the apps installed along wth the ROM, as they don't show in remove programs. Or is it as simple as deleting the program folder, or will that leave crud behind?
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You cannot remove the apps as they are written into the rom. You can remove the icons from the start menu and they will not show. Or you can delete the program folder from from the /windows directory. However both of these options will leave program files behind.
Secondly, in the future please post in the correct forum. Your post has nothing to do with rom development and starting new threads in the rom development forum just to ask questions, just clutters up the forum.
All questions, unless asked in a specific rom thread, belong in the general forum.
Moved as not ROM Dev.
There is a tool search ROM Editor but it's not great so many dependancies to remove with sofrware, never used it myself as just like denco7 said you can hide shortcuts etc and use storage card except on system load events.