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HTC home or SPB mobile shell?

Hi all, i wanna ask if i should install mobile shell onto my kaiser? really luv the page of mobile shell but heard it drain out the battery and slow down the ram...is that true?
i want something to display my battery % without clicking in as well a clena calender on interface...pls let me know which software provide it.
thks alot!
p.s. the Kaiser really smooth runnign so far + the radio rom really much improved comapre to my previous Trinty.

Yes it's true!
From my experiences, everything you've heard about the SPB shell and other apps (Diary, Weather, etc.) do in fact drain the battery! There is also a noticeable slowdown in performance with these running.
With these installed and enabled on my Task Window, I go from 100% charge down to 60% in about 3 hours. I was obviously tethered to a power plug or car adapter.
I've opted to go with the native HTC Home plugin and will work this weekend to customize the weather, the CUBE, icons, and all the other goodies.
TEC

chocodip said:
Hi all, i wanna ask if i should install mobile shell onto my kaiser? really luv the page of mobile shell but heard it drain out the battery and slow down the ram...is that true?
i want something to display my battery % without clicking in as well a clena calender on interface...pls let me know which software provide it.
thks alot!
p.s. the Kaiser really smooth runnign so far + the radio rom really much improved comapre to my previous Trinty.
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I am in the same boat as you and I was just debating myself on the same thing.......
I had used many SPB software and had SPB MS/Backup/PhoneSuite on my P3600i prior to the Kaiser. But HTC Home gave me substantially similar functionality (except for SBP Backup which I installed on my Kaiser), I am very hesitant in installing SPB software if they are not needed, especially when the Kaiser is so stable without MS/PhoneSuite.......

I use HTC home plugin and the battery life is good.
For battery indicator, I suggest "batti"
http://pda.jasnapaka.com/batti/
It is very light, very small, works well, customizeable
For calendar, you may look Calendar+ or TodayAgenda.
Btw, do you use SPB GPRS Monitor as well?
I am considering of using it, but thinking of memory drain.

hey all,
thks for all da infos~~~i think i will keep my HTC instead. Since it's really smooth runnin dun wanna slow down by any softwares.
Kaiser is soooo much improved on speed .......previous i hv problem with mapking R12 (the speed , the reaction.....just so dead slow) now really kickin off!
i m luvin it!~~
ps. For the Batti software....seems it's similar to the preinstall one...anyone?

No, it is not the same
Batti gives you "line" indicator at the very top of your sceen.
chocodip said:
hey all,
thks for all da infos~~~i think i will keep my HTC instead. Since it's really smooth runnin dun wanna slow down by any softwares.
Kaiser is soooo much improved on speed .......previous i hv problem with mapking R12 (the speed , the reaction.....just so dead slow) now really kickin off!
i m luvin it!~~
ps. For the Batti software....seems it's similar to the preinstall one...anyone?
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but i got the line indicator now as well.....hmm.......

I immediately switched back to Mobile Shell. Don't get me wrong; the default design of WM6 is fine but the clock is way to large and some tabs really bug me (like quick-choice for the sound profiles).
My phones need to have a clean interface so now I'm only running the default install of Mobile Shell, Owner and Calendar. Loads of room on screen to spare for new/cool apps.

SPB Shell is the way for me.
My experience is that with HTC Home plug-in battery drained faster than with SBP Shell. I also find Shell easier to use with fingers. An more configurable.
I have cLaunch with large iPhone icones attached to one of the Shell's tabs - works very nice.

Quick question for you Mobile Shell user
I like the PHOTO tab in the HTC Home where you can put 9 pictures for speed dial.
And I saw SpB shell can have that too.
But from the screenshot in the website, it displays about 5 pictures ...
Actually, how much can you have with Mobile Shell?
Thanks

gogol said:
Quick question for you Mobile Shell user
I like the PHOTO tab in the HTC Home where you can put 9 pictures for speed dial.
And I saw SpB shell can have that too.
But from the screenshot in the website, it displays about 5 pictures ...
Actually, how much can you have with Mobile Shell?
Thanks
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Mobile Shell can have 3-4 contact tabs with 5 contacts each.......

oh....HTC plugin drain faster the mobile shell? u serious? oh man....wut should i do now....

Hmmm, too little
mlai said:
Mobile Shell can have 3-4 contact tabs with 5 contacts each.......
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That is interesting...
chocodip said:
oh....HTC plugin drain faster the mobile shell? u serious? oh man....wut should i do now....
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Yea...I didn't find this to be true at all in my case. The native HTC plugins don't drain my battery at all.
I've now removed all SPB apps and am running just the HTC Home plugin. I now got the CUBE to animate so I'm really excited! I'll work on more CUBE and Home plugin customizations.
TEC

where u gt the cube? can u post the link?
thks

Go here...
chocodip said:
where u gt the cube? can u post the link?
thks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326523&page=2&highlight=touch.dll+cube
Check out Post #11...
TEC

I love SPB Mobile Shell, I was using it with my original TyTN. However, for some reason, it kept freezing my TyTN II device whenever I key locked it. I also noticed my device was sluggish with it. I am NOT a fan of the HTC Shell one bit. It takes up the whole screen. So, now I use iLauncher for my shortcuts to programs or as my shortcut phone calls to contacts.
I hope SPB Mobile Shell comes out with a new release which corrects many of these issues.

technillion said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326523&page=2&highlight=touch.dll+cube
Check out Post #11...
TEC
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I cant seem to get it to install. Are you using HTC Home - stock, out of the box? I have Home Customizer on mine and keep getting the black screen.
Thanks.
-Jeff

Use Batti for Battery Display ALL THE WAY! (Since Blue Angel...)
I got my TyTN(Hell it is hard to type it right) yesterday and i find the HTC Home application very neat. Compared to SPB Shell, I think i will use the HTC Home and forget about installing the resource exhaustive SPB applications(not too bad but still)
SPB Shell needs some refining before i will consider it again.

I used Mobile shell on my 8125. Loved it. but i find that everything i used it for is now built in to my TyTN II. Weather, photo speed dial, program shortcuts, time, phone ringer settings switching.. There is no need for the now screen with the HTC home plugin.. I did use spb menu but now that my new device actually has a start menu button this really isn't needed any more either. So i saved myself a ton of ram and skipped on Mobile shell.
I did install diary though. It is still the best calendar today plugin for me. I disabled all the tabs except the calendar tab and have it setting just bellow HTC home.. works well. And you know what? it is actaully very fast and doesn't use very much ram if you disable all the tabs

Install SPB Mobile Shell on Diamond

I'm eager to install the SPB Mobile Shell on my HTC Touch Diamond, but I cannot seem to find any guide anywhere on how to do it. What steps do I need to take prior to the installation? Is it sufficient to disable Touch Flo 3D in the registry, or do I have to install a custom ROM?
Thanks in advance!

why would you want to use mobile shell, touchflo 3d is so much better and faster?!

for installation you don't have to disable TF3D... but in order to see the Today-Plugins from Mobile-Shell you need to disable it.

I only use Shell on my Diamond - Flo drives me round the bend. Try setting the Flo weather location using Flo - it is enough to drive one batty!
Shell may not be as pretty - but is far more fuctional IMHO.
Just grab a ROM which either has no Flo or (at the very least) uninstallable Flo.

SPB shell is easy to set up - just follow the instructions that came with the product.
go to: start/settings/today/items and disable TF3D and enable SPB. if you wish to change back do the reverse.
i use SPB. it is quicker, more intuitive and just easier than the TF3D. the black skin looks ace also.
have tried to go back to TF3D but always end up back with SPB.

Thanks for your comments! Does anybody know how much space is wasted to have Flo installed but not using it? Do I really need to go for a custom ROM?
_4saken_: Touch Flo is driving me crazy. I've been using my Diamond for a week now and I simply cannot stand it anymore. I want an interface that is practical, that I can use everyday at work, that does not necessarily impress my friends in any way. But that helps me achieve my daily tasks in the most efficient way possible.
Touch Flo 3D is very nice looking but IMHO it is not especially functional. In my world simplicity and function wins over glossiness and sluggish animations ;-)
From the demos I've seen on SPB there are many smart features that saves clicks and gives a better flow of events, as compared to Touch Flo. But then again, I have yet to try it out

Are you sure?
_4saken_ said:
why would you want to use mobile shell, touchflo 3d is so much better and faster?!
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Did you try it?
I had both. the combination of SPB mobile shell + SPB time + SPB phone suite is much more flexible and gives more possibilities. As for speed - the SPB is heavy if you use custom "nice" theme.
Regards,
PV

ComPas-V said:
Did you try it?
I had both. the combination of SPB mobile shell + SPB time + SPB phone suite is much more flexible and gives more possibilities. As for speed - the SPB is heavy if you use custom "nice" theme.
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With heavy you mean slow? So you've experienced the SPB to be slower than Touch Flo? Just curious!

Yes and no
jobook said:
With heavy you mean slow? So you've experienced the SPB to be slower than Touch Flo? Just curious!
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The Diamond is VGA (probably you know ). The SPB mobile shell uses bmp so to make custom theme you should double pics size and as result file size. So theme becomes heavy. However it does not make the program slow, but eats memory... So we came to the classic Windows situation - shell eats all memory dedicated for programs...
As for usability issue : the interface is more informative then 3DFlo. not too much though.
Cheers

WM 6.5, TF3D2 and SecondToday - working?

After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?

Well, can't seem to get SecondToday to load on my Touch IT WM6.5. Tried mToday too but it can't work either.

E90 Commie said:
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
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it is but it makes the system slow.....using both interface makes the system use more resources.....i think a better option is to write a mort script to switch between interfaces

I have solved the problem with TFDetacher, SPB MS3 Toggler and AE Buttons plus. The left softkey toggles Mobile Shell and the right one toggles TF3D.
I can recommend TFDetacher to be cooked into the Valkyrie series (and other ROMs with the 6.5/Titanium and Manilla combo). TFDetacher is the easiest way to use both Manilla and Titanium on the 6.5.

E90 Commie said:
I have solved the problem with TFDetacher, SPB MS3 Toggler and AE Buttons plus. The left softkey toggles Mobile Shell and the right one toggles TF3D.
I can recommend TFDetacher to be cooked into the Valkyrie series (and other ROMs with the 6.5/Titanium and Manilla combo). TFDetacher is the easiest way to use both Manilla and Titanium on the 6.5.
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can you write how you did, i have try but i can't get it too work

This is my steps:
1. Install TFDetacher.
2. When it´s installed - open TFConfig and uncheck TouchFLO autostart.
3. Install SPB MS 3.0.1.
4. Install SPB MS Toggler.
5. Install AE Button Plus.
6. Open AE Button Plus and select LSK and handle by AEPlus, open application. Select Toggle Mobile Shell.
7. Do the same with the RSK but select Toggle TouchFLO instead.
Works perfect on my device running Valkyrie 1.8/WM 6.5 21812.

E90 Commie said:
This is my steps:
1. Install TFDetacher.
2. When it´s installed - open TFConfig and uncheck TouchFLO autostart.
3. Install SPB MS 3.0.1.
4. Install SPB MS Toggler.
5. Install AE Button Plus.
6. Open AE Button Plus and select LSK and handle by AEPlus, open application. Select Toggle Mobile Shell.
7. Do the same with the RSK but select Toggle TouchFLO instead.
Works perfect on my device running Valkyrie 1.8/WM 6.5 21812.
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gr8 work.....but can u comment on the memory usage after
1.toggling through both;
2 after only opening manila
3. after only opening MS..
PS: any luck with titanium

agent_47 said:
gr8 work.....but can u comment on the memory usage after
1.toggling through both;
2 after only opening manila
3. after only opening MS..
PS: any luck with titanium
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Titanium works fine in 1.8/21812.
With both SPB MS3 and TF3D2 running memory usage is 71% according to HTC Task Manager. Beside both I´m running Total Commander and Task Facade.
With only TF3D2, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
With SPB MS 3.0.1, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
Hibernate command in QuickMenu reduced this to 65%.
In my opinion the TFDetacher is needed if TF3D2 is cooked in. SPB MS Toggler is only needed if the user has decided to install Mobile Shell. It installs in the same folder as SPB MS - i.e cook that in isn´t a good idea because of mismatching folders.
Ergo:
*On ROMs with Titanium and TF3D2 onboard: cook TFDetacher in for easy switching.
*Don´t cook the SPB MS Toggler in - to work correctly Mobile Shell 3 needs to be present before installation.
AE Button Plus or changes in registry to bind long press on LSK or RSK to "Toggle TouchFLO" can be a good idea if TFDetacher is cooked in.
The good thing with TFDetacher is the fact it makes it possible to run TouchFLO as an application - i.e you have "two" today screens available. It can be a good idea even on 6.1 based ROMs with TF3D. Second Today isn´t needed - TFDetacher frees up the screen (and SPB MS Toggler does that too).
Edit: with CleanRAM level 1 purging the memory usage with only SPB MS3 running besides Task Facade and TC was reduced to 64%.

sjoe tht sounds good... if tht"d work without loosing speed...
any chance u can throw it in ur pot Agent?

i need to delete the mobileshell lnk in startup or???

E90 Commie said:
Titanium works fine in 1.8/21812.
With both SPB MS3 and TF3D2 running memory usage is 71% according to HTC Task Manager. Beside both I´m running Total Commander and Task Facade.
With only TF3D2, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
With SPB MS 3.0.1, Task Facade and TC running the mem usage is 66%.
Hibernate command in QuickMenu reduced this to 65%.
In my opinion the TFDetacher is needed if TF3D2 is cooked in. SPB MS Toggler is only needed if the user has decided to install Mobile Shell. It installs in the same folder as SPB MS - i.e cook that in isn´t a good idea because of mismatching folders.
Ergo:
*On ROMs with Titanium and TF3D2 onboard: cook TFDetacher in for easy switching.
*Don´t cook the SPB MS Toggler in - to work correctly Mobile Shell 3 needs to be present before installation.
AE Button Plus or changes in registry to bind long press on LSK or RSK to "Toggle TouchFLO" can be a good idea if TFDetacher is cooked in.
The good thing with TFDetacher is the fact it makes it possible to run TouchFLO as an application - i.e you have "two" today screens available. It can be a good idea even on 6.1 based ROMs with TF3D. Second Today isn´t needed - TFDetacher frees up the screen (and SPB MS Toggler does that too).
Edit: with CleanRAM level 1 purging the memory usage with only SPB MS3 running besides Task Facade and TC was reduced to 64%.
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I have 45 % when i toggle titanium, ms3 and tf3d

I was very satisfied with SecondToday on WM 6.1 but now I flashed to WM 6.5 and have a problem.
I use ROMeOS RAPHAEL WM 6.5 [v2.9.02](180709) the standard screen is the new "Windows Default" and on the SecondToday-Screen should be thinks like Spb Diary and other useful apps.
Here my problem: At WM 6.1 I had no problem with setting the left softkey to ST but now with WM 6.5 I can't set the left softkey on the Windows Default screen to ST.
Any suggestions?

There is an app, that making a tab for TF3D and you can see there your classic todoy screen

bremair said:
I was very satisfied with SecondToday on WM 6.1 but now I flashed to WM 6.5 and have a problem.
I use ROMeOS RAPHAEL WM 6.5 [v2.9.02](180709) the standard screen is the new "Windows Default" and on the SecondToday-Screen should be thinks like Spb Diary and other useful apps.
Here my problem: At WM 6.1 I had no problem with setting the left softkey to ST but now with WM 6.5 I can't set the left softkey on the Windows Default screen to ST.
Any suggestions?
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Use AE Button Plus and remap the softkey - select long press to do the preferred action. Works perfect.

That would be a solution but what's the name of the buttons below? The "Home" and the "Arrow"?

infazz said:
There is an app, that making a tab for TF3D and you can see there your classic todoy screen
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What app is that?

E90 Commie said:
After the release of the WM 6.5 Build 21500 I´m thinking to try it out. But I have a question:
*Is the SecondToday working on the WM 6.5?
I want to use both TF3D and the standard WM 6.5 Today screen and on the 6.1 it´s working great. But is this working on the 6.5?
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I recently Flashed to Dutty 6.5 r9
and got a little carried away
and have Touchflo detatcher
secondtoday
and ManilaToday v4.0 <-- the one that uses a manila tab
all working successfully

My take: make the TF3d home button to call 2nd today. Doesn't matter it's 6.1 or 6.5
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila]
"HomeLSKPath"="\\windows\\secondtoday.exe"
"HomeLSKText"="2nd Today"

Tried that way but wm 6.5 overwrite this settings.

Uh? Thought SecondToday doesn't work on WM6.5? Last time I tried I couldn't seem to get it to work.

APP SPB Mobile Shell V3.0

Hi,
I have a problem. I'm currently using a HTC Touch Pro and installed recentle the Mobile Shell V3.0. But I can't get back to my original (tf3d) today screen. When i try to get back, the only thing i see is the HTC Wallpaper and a shortcut to get back to spb home. How can i get to my original today screen without uninstalling the mobile shell??

SPB Mobile Schell 3
Me too!
I have installed SPB MS and when i have unistalled it the TF3D wasnt work anymore.
Someone have a solution please?
Tanks
PS: i have a HTC Touch HD with original rom ITA.

The only way I found to get both to work concurrently was to disable Mobile Shell from loading on startup. Let TF3D load, then manually start Mobile Shell after a soft reset.

callmemoe said:
The only way I found to get both to work concurrently was to disable Mobile Shell from loading on startup. Let TF3D load, then manually start Mobile Shell after a soft reset.
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Verified here too.. Then again, I don't think I'll be using TF3D anymore.

callmemoe said:
The only way I found to get both to work concurrently was to disable Mobile Shell from loading on startup. Let TF3D load, then manually start Mobile Shell after a soft reset.
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how can u change the programs at startup?
Thnx people, fixed it, now i can use them both!!

l3it3r said:
Verified here too.. Then again, I don't think I'll be using TF3D anymore.
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How disable Mobile Shell from loading on startup?

farhan727 said:
how can u change the programs at startup?
Thnx people, fixed it, now i can use them both!!
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How disable Mobile Shell from loading on startup?

ovidio said:
How disable Mobile Shell from loading on startup?
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Delete the file SpbMobileShell.lnk in \Windows\Startup

pdafuzzi said:
Delete the file SpbMobileShell.lnk in \Windows\Startup
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Already done! .. but SPB MS continue to start!
Any suggestion?

Hit Launcher on main menu. Find the SPB Mobile shell icon and click on it. It will direct you to a new page. Now click on the right lower aspect of the screen (right soft key). Click on "exit shell". Your touch flo should load up and there you can select touch flo or spb with ease. You do have to redo the whole procedure everytime you soft reset

ERWIN CENIZA said:
Hit Launcher on main menu. Find the SPB Mobile shell icon and click on it. It will direct you to a new page. Now click on the right lower aspect of the screen (right soft key). Click on "exit shell". Your touch flo should load up and there you can select touch flo or spb with ease. You do have to redo the whole procedure everytime you soft reset
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All is done but TF3D dont start.
I have the left soft key "Message" and the right soft key "Spb Home" on bottom of the screen.
On top of the screen i have "Touch to start TouchFLO 3d" and if i touch the screen it say: "TouchFlo starting" but not start!
if i push the left soft key "Message" it seems "impossible open the file: MSPOUTLOOK calendar ... etc.."
I think a must do a soft reset also if i dont wont.
thanks in advance

In my opinion I would say just remove MS3... To be honest I was not impressed. at first I was like WoW how flashy..... It even built in a way to Design your own page.... but after playing with it for a few hours I took it off. It was good enough for what it was but just not there yet for me. I LOVED MS2. As long as it had Greatbal's TF2D Theme on it. The best part about it was how snappy it was. it has a great response time... But I didnt like the integration or customization of it. It does not allow to you change the items in the carousel (AKA Remove). I didnt like how you only had the "Personal" home screen that you could slide left and right... I think they should have made it like MS2 more where you could just slide left and right to get anywhere. The bottom bar is a waste of space... and the top bar should not ev en bee there. MS2 if I remember correctly covered the start menu and this one should as well... I dont like that it doesn't integrate with PI8 (but then again TF3D does not either) But my biggest concern is that it does not even allow you to put other SPB products into the carousel.
For me I think I will wait a while and let some of the GREAT designers in here fix MS3 and make it better. I think that SPB did a pretty good job of giving users what the want... but they are not quite there yet. I am going to stick with just TF3D until I see some more improvements on this product.
Have a Great day,
SoBBie

Screen Rotation Delay
MS 3 is a nice interface & I do like the carousels. The deal-breaker for me is the 5 second delay when I slide out/in my keyboard. WAY TOO LONG.

SPB Mobile Shell 3 is great but yes the delay when switching from portrait to landscape is horible! Even worse, if you are in landscape in Opera then hit the home button, SPB 3 gets stuck in landscape till you either reset or launch Opera again then switch to portrait

SPB Mobile Shell 3.5

I've been doing custom ROM's for years. I just got a replacement Fuze because mine had the oily rectangle under the digitizer.
Totally stock 6.1 phone with ATT 5.11.00.00 ROM.
I said...."what the heck...I'll go see if the SPB Mobile Shell has improved"
Absolutely gorgeous. I disable TF3D and run the SPB MS 3.5 and it is pure SWEETNESS!
For anyone that is afraid to flash their phone...this is a great option!
For all you diehard ROMMERS you need to give this thing a look. SPB MS 3.5 is MUCH improved from version 3.
You may find out that there is no need to use a custom ROM when you see this in operation.
Very fast and very intuitive. You can master all the features in an hour or so.
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And watch your battery drain faster then ever. I will admit it's a nice UI but it still has issues.

Wil Badger said:
And watch your battery drain faster then ever. I will admit it's a nice UI but it still has issues.
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Does it drain faster because of the software...or because the GUI is so sweet that it makes you wanna play with the phone more?

Double Post.........delete me please.......

TF3D (Manila) is draining more battery than SPB MS 3.5.

Good thing I use Titanium then isn't it.......

SPB 3.5 and Windows mobile 6.5
Does anyone have experience using a cooked ROM 6.5 and SPB 3.5. I am doing the trial on SPB and it looks great

eddie_moore said:
Does anyone have experience using a cooked ROM 6.5 and SPB 3.5. I am doing the trial on SPB and it looks great
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Yes, I'm using it with Timolol's ROM and it's working good. There are two issues however - I had to delete PositionFix shortcut from Windows/Startup in order to SPB MS display properly. Second problem is conflict between SPB MS and Rhodium dialer - if SPB MS is active, you cannot access call history and contacts from Rhodium dialer.

i used SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 until the trial period, might buy it but waiting if the fuze owners will get an official release of winmo 6.5.

I'm using SPB MobileShell 3.4 on SSK 2 ROM - works great
I haven't noticed battery drain running 3.5 on Scott Crosler's SSK from this may. Really love the new interface. Can't think of much they could change at this point being long time user of versions 2 and 3.

I really liked the 3.5.
I was using it on my WinMo 6.1 Touch Pro.
But there was a huge battery drain and every time I used the S2U locking program and Inesoft Calendar, I always got tskmgr.exe, calnot.exe, and replog.exe errors.
I gave up on it.
I may try again when there's an update, but probably not.
It would have been nice to have been able to keep it.
ninrocket said:
Does it drain faster because of the software...or because the GUI is so sweet that it makes you wanna play with the phone more?
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I wondered that myself, actually. Left the phone on my desk at 90%. Bluetooth off; wireless off; any email-pushing/pulling off. Within 30 minutes, it was at 50%. I hadn't even used it. Since I've removed it completely and using the stock HTC/Sprint thing, I'm back to being able to go all day, talking, pushing, pulling, bluetoothing, without having to charge the battery.

the new 3.5 is fabulous! Normal battery drain for me but I have been running shell for the past 3 versions. Maybe because I am using a clean (no HTC mods) and with Titanium turned off the drain is fairly low. Only 14% reduction in 9 hours of use.
Things they could add to the next version:
Ability to add more than one city to the weather app.
Slide Show option for the picture frame widget.
Skins, skins, skins...

My phone has been unplugged for nearly 24 hours. It's at 71%.
I am currently running NRG's 23016 ROM. TF3D is disabled.
The 23071 and later based 6.5 ROM's move the Start menu to the bottom. This conflicts with SPB MS 3.5's buttons on some pages. Anyone have a fix? Thanks!

I contacted SPB to see if they have a media player with album art in the works. I'll let you know the answer as soon as I get it.

samesies...
ninrocket said:
My phone has been unplugged for nearly 24 hours. It's at 71%.
I am currently running NRG's 23016 ROM. TF3D is disabled.
The 23071 and later based 6.5 ROM's move the Start menu to the bottom. This conflicts with SPB MS 3.5's buttons on some pages. Anyone have a fix? Thanks!
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running into the same thing, hope that NRG continues with the 21864 ROMS cuz i love spb... you using mskip's mods as well? very essential...
also u may want to update that signature

FIXED!!!!!!!!
Use Total Commander or File Explorer and goto your \Windows\StartUp folder.
Do you have a link called "ShowcaseSuite.lnk" ?
You can click it from Total Commander and it will give a message that says "e-Natives Suite has been Terminated".
Go back to SPB MS 3.5 and BANG!!!! Da' ***** is gone. SWEET!!!
You can delete the link from your \Windows\StartUp folder and then it won't come back(It is cooked into NRG's ROM).
Now you can use the SPB launcher. Extra SWEET!!!!!!!

I have a problem with notifications when using SPB MS3.5
When a notification pops up, lie an alarm, or new SMS, the notification popup itself is hidden, and the only way to display it is clicking on the top bar, selecting the notification icon and then it's displayed, along with the softkeys.
Anyone has a solution for this? I want the notifications to be displayed on top of the MS3.5 window...
Thanks!

MS3.5 works well with WM6.5.1
eddie_moore said:
Does anyone have experience using a cooked ROM 6.5 and SPB 3.5. I am doing the trial on SPB and it looks great
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I have used MS3.5 with RRE ROMS, Exquisite 3.5 and Timolol 23081. Works just fine.
pilgrim011 said:
Yes, I'm using it with Timolol's ROM and it's working good. There are two issues however - I had to delete PositionFix shortcut from Windows/Startup in order to SPB MS display properly. Second problem is conflict between SPB MS and Rhodium dialer - if SPB MS is active, you cannot access call history and contacts from Rhodium dialer.
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ninrocket said:
I am currently running NRG's 23016 ROM. TF3D is disabled.
The 23071 and later based 6.5 ROM's move the Start menu to the bottom. This conflicts with SPB MS 3.5's buttons on some pages. Anyone have a fix? Thanks!
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lewdog444 said:
running into the same thing
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ninrocket said:
FIXED!!!!!!!!
Use Total Commander or File Explorer and goto your \Windows\StartUp folder.
Do you have a link called "ShowcaseSuite.lnk" ?
You can click it from Total Commander and it will give a message that says "e-Natives Suite has been Terminated".
Go back to SPB MS 3.5 and BANG!!!! Da' ***** is gone. SWEET!!!
You can delete the link from your \Windows\StartUp folder and then it won't come back(It is cooked into NRG's ROM).
Now you can use the SPB launcher. Extra SWEET!!!!!!!
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The overlay of the WM6.5 taskbar on MS3.5 is probably because a version of Showcase by amarullz is installed or burned into your ROM. Deleting startup links to either PositionFix.lnk or ShowcaseSuite.lnk to terminate Showcase is a drastic measure...but I used to do it as well until I discovered the following:
If you want to prevent the WM6.5 taskbar from overlaying the MS3.5 home screen, try the following registry edit (depending upon which version of Showcase is burned into your ROM).
Look for the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\e-Natives Technology.
If you have a folder named WM65xFix, you have an early version of Showcase_X. Open the folder...you should have a key called "WindowClasses" that has "Manila;RESCO_EXPLORER_CLASS" as the text value. DELETE the text "Manila;" (and add "RESCO_REGISTRY_CLASS" separted by a semi-colon if you use Resco Registry Editor). Soft Reset. This should take care of the overlay problem.
If you have a folder named Showcase you have the latest version called "ShowcaseSuite". Open the folder...you should have a key called "SUITE_PositionFix_WinClasses" that has a text value of "Manila;RESCO_EXPLORER_CLASS". Delete the text "Manila" and the semi-colon. (Add the value for Resco Registry Editor as above if you use the program) Soft Reset. This should take care of the overlay! NOTE: If you want the "X" icon to CLOSE the program rather than minimize, change the dword value of the key "SUITE_CloseOnTap" to the value of number 1.
Finally, if you have the older version of Showcase_X burned into your ROM and want to upgrade to ShowcaseSuite, terminate Showcase_X as described by nimrocket. Reboot. Use Remove Programs (if you can) to uninstall e-Natives Showcase. Reboot. Install ShowcaseSuite. Make registry edits.
If you don't see Showcase in your uninstall list, again terminate by removing PositionFix.lnk from your startup folder. Reboot. Re-Install Showcase_X available from here (same as link above). Use Remove Programs to uninstall. Reboot. Install ShowcaseSuite. Make registry edits.
HTH!!!
[edit] Added two .cab files as attachments. If you aren't comfortable making registry edits, use ONE of the attached .cab files depending upon which version of Showcase you have installed.
Use the WM65xFix.cab if you have the older Showcase_X installed. Use Showcase.cab if you have ShowcaseSuite installed. [/edit]

Thanks for the registry info.
Personally I couldn't see why I would want another task manager running at all when SPB has a very nice one built in that is every bit as finger friendly as Showcases.
Deleting the Showcase link doesn't cause any grief and is much easier if you don't plan on using the redundant Showcase tools. But if you want Showcase then the regedit may be for you.

ninrocket said:
Thanks for the registry info.
Personally I couldn't see why I would want another task manager running at all when SPB has a very nice one built in that is every bit as finger friendly as Showcases.
Deleting the Showcase link doesn't cause any grief and is much easier if you don't plan on using the redundant Showcase tools. But if you want Showcase then the regedit may be for you.
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You are right...and Showcase is not without a few issues (that don't affect you when you use MS3.5 and the 3D email viewer) I use Showcase because I also use Resco programs. WM6.5.1 changes the layout of the screen because of the "thinner" top bar. This causes programs such as Resco File Explorer to not display properly. I also like ShowcaseSuite because I can use it to make the "X" button terminate programs rather than minimize...so far it's the only WM6.5 tool I know that can accomplish this, but hopefully others will be developed now that WM6.5 is official!