to pull or not to pull battery after spl update. - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i dont remember if i pulled my battery or left it in with my first fone when i installed the spl, so what should i do let me know.

hiroots said:
i dont remember if i pulled my battery or left it in with my first fone when i installed the spl, so what should i do let me know.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731 -dont pull battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534461 -do pull battery
i think it depends on the order you go in but i used the 2nd one and it was very easy

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how does a bricked phone act?

im just wondering how do i no if i bricked a phone or not i mean if the ipl and spl have diff verison does that mean i bricked it? can any1 tell me what does a bricked phone look like and how do i no if i bricked or not..?
joco2560 said:
im just wondering how do i no if i bricked a phone or not i mean if the ipl and spl have diff verison does that mean i bricked it? can any1 tell me what does a bricked phone look like and how do i no if i bricked or not..?
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If it still turns on I don't believe its bricked. When it isn't responsive, doesn't show the three color screen, and doesn't charge or anything like that. That I believe is a true brick.
a bricked phone means a lot of things
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the radio rom
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the OS
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the ipl
it could mean the flash has gone wrong because you have just tried to flash a g3 rom onto a g4
If you want to know if you have screwed it up completely flash the original rom that came from your mobile provider and see if it works, also try explaining in better detail what it is that happens and what it is that doesnt happen when you switch it on?
scousemartin said:
a bricked phone means a lot of things
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the radio rom
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the OS
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the ipl
it could mean the flash has gone wrong because you have just tried to flash a g3 rom onto a g4
If you want to know if you have screwed it up completely flash the original rom that came from your mobile provider and see if it works, also try explaining in better detail what it is that happens and what it is that doesnt happen when you switch it on?
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actually the phone doesnt charge or turn on
take the battery out and leave it out for twenty minutes then put it back and see if it will turn on.
what were you trying to flash to the phone and what happened ?
btw if ipl and spl are not the same this does not mean it is bricked
Also if the battery ran out charge it via a wall charger not via the usb lead. Have you tried taking the battery out and seeing if there is any charge in it?
I just stick my tongue on the contacts, not very technical i know, but at least you can tell if it is deaD or not.
umm..i tried to leave my battery out for an hour but still wont turn on and charged using the wall plug but still woulndt charge. dunno what to do, but some ppl told me to get a new battery , and i just oredered 1 online, but the last screen i saw was 3 color screen with diff ipl and spl versions, and scared the **** out of me, that was after i flashed a bad rom(dont no if its with ipl/spl) then it changed my spl number then iflashed back using love rom, then it woulndt boot affter love rom, so i took the battery out(dumb move) and plugged it back in and it wont boot, i mean turn on, tried camera button, reset button with the pen or that softreset. i really hope its the battery..
but the battery was fully charged before the flash, so im sure that there were at least 80 percent power left..
Actually, if you can remember the original IPL version with .0001 at end of it and your tried to flash a G4 wizard with ROM that with only G3 IPL/SPL, then it is a brick that you can't charge nor switch it on.
starkwong said:
Actually, if you can remember the original IPL version with .0001 at end of it and your tried to flash a G4 wizard with ROM that with only G3 IPL/SPL, then it is a brick that you can't charge nor switch it on.
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ummm. i think the ipl/spl was 2.26.xxx then after the flashed it changed either ipl or spl i forgot, but the number was 2.21.xxx.xx(i) there was an"i" after the number
so u dont think getting a new battery would make it turn on again?
scousemartin said:
a bricked phone means a lot of things
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the radio rom
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the OS
it could mean the flash has gone wrong and failed to flash the ipl
it could mean the flash has gone wrong because you have just tried to flash a g3 rom onto a g4
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I don't agree with this. For me, a bricked phone does the same as a brick: NOTHING!
@joco2560
So only the last one of the options above is the one to make a phone into a brick; which is what i believe happened to your phone. (which i already answered in the other thread)
ummm. i think the ipl/spl was 2.26.xxx then after the flashed it changed either ipl or spl i forgot, but the number was 2.21.xxx.xx(i) there was an"i" after the number
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Then there is a very high possibility that your Wizard is a brick now because many bricks are formed after 2nd reboot with incorrectly flashed IPL and SPL.
There are no known easy way to recover a brick, so...be ready to get a new phone or to replace mainboard.
Dear Mestrini, My g4 cid unlocked wizy, felt in water. Now after a cleaning it starts with the boot screen. I flashed back with love rom and the process goes fine up to the end. By the way when it starts goes back to the boot screen. I tried to hard reset but when I push the send button nothing happen.
What can it be?
thanks!
[email protected] said:
Dear Mestrini, My g4 cid unlocked wizy, felt in water. Now after a cleaning it starts with the boot screen. I flashed back with love rom and the process goes fine up to the end. By the way when it starts goes back to the boot screen. I tried to hard reset but when I push the send button nothing happen.
What can it be?
thanks!
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It can be a LOT of different things. That's why no repair center accepts a phone with humidity or that fell in some sort of liquid.
I would advise to open it and dry it with a hairdryer or hot-air station but to be very very careful with the distance not to fry the PCB (main board)
After that try to flash it with the original/official ROM (full ROM) a number of times to see if it recovers
joco2560 said:
umm..i tried to leave my battery out for an hour but still wont turn on and charged using the wall plug but still woulndt charge. dunno what to do, but some ppl told me to get a new battery , and i just oredered 1 online, but the last screen i saw was 3 color screen with diff ipl and spl versions, and scared the **** out of me, that was after i flashed a bad rom(dont no if its with ipl/spl) then it changed my spl number then iflashed back using love rom, then it woulndt boot affter love rom, so i took the battery out(dumb move) and plugged it back in and it wont boot, i mean turn on, tried camera button, reset button with the pen or that softreset. i really hope its the battery..
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Another member managed to recover a phone that wouldn't turn on; maybe you can too and i got it wrong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349539
good luck

Orange ROm

Orange are collecting my faulty HD tommorow. I need to flash back to the original Rom.
How do i do it?
I assume i need it from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379034
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379318
Is there any easier way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444158
do i just flash the rom as normal?
Read the steps at the end of the first post on this thread
You will need the stock ROM from the post you gave (ie http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444158) and follow the steps in the thread above. You will also need to revert to a stock 1.14 SPL as the final step (also in the thread above)
ClydeB1 said:
Read the steps at the end of the first post on this thread
You will need the stock ROM from the post you gave (ie http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444158) and follow the steps in the thread above. You will also need to revert to a stock 1.14 SPL as the final step (also in the thread above)
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LoL, i just realised i am returning my phone to Orange as my power on/off button doesnt work, no flashing for me
chinnyman said:
LoL, i just realised i am returning my phone to Orange as my power on/off button doesnt work, no flashing for me
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thats the same problem i had with my orange htc, the power button would turn the phone on but not off, so you maybe ok? does it turn on after the battery is removed? my camera also failed to start, i hadnt flashed that one but tbh, if this breaks i wouldnt care less, ive sent back a few n95's which had been flashed to stock nokia firmwares and nothing was ever said
chinnyman said:
LoL, i just realised i am returning my phone to Orange as my power on/off button doesnt work, no flashing for me
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If you remove battery can you turn device on using power button? If so, you can still flash a rom as you can still enter bootloader
i'm pretty sure i found a small app that puts the HD in the bootloader anyway.
assuming you can switch it on LOL...but if you can do that you can already get there!!
....its in the zip
or if you pull out battery and put it back in with the datacable in itll boot
also remember orange dont check what u have on ur phone i know this as ive asked them and ive never flashed back to there rom before sending
theyre idiots
-PiLoT- said:
or if you pull out battery and put it back in with the datacable in itll boot
also remember orange dont check what u have on ur phone i know this as ive asked them and ive never flashed back to there rom before sending
theyre idiots
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lol thanks
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HELP!!! Stuck at g1 screen!

I just got a new g1 and i was rooting it but forgot to install the new spl before flashing a build so i flashed the build and got a "cant symlink" error.
After that i figured out it was the spl so i flashed the new spl and it installed fine but when it said press home+back to reboot i just took out the battery...
Now I have to tried to boot the phone into recovery with home+power and camera+power and it still just remains on the g1 screen!
Please help!
Cant SYMLINK
First of all did you install the radio first? AND THEN THE SPL? or did u just install the SPL?
If you only installed the SPL then youre pretty much f****d and you need to go get a replacement device.
If you installed the radio first then the SPL then you should be ok just go back to recovery and reflash RADIO THEN SPL u can get them [here], but from what youre saying thats not the case.
If you do have to go to get a new device, it is free **at least mine was** I just said that i plugged it in the night before, it had been getting really hot and that when i woke up that morning it just wouldnt turn back on past the G1 boot screen. if you just got it you will be able to get away with saying "the phone said there was an update available, i downloaded the update and now it wont go past this screen" play it dumb and you should be ok.
Good luck, im hopin for the best, it sucks to have a brick lol i been there done that.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS LOAD ANOTHER ROM ON YOUR SD CARD, PULL THE BATTERY, GO INTO RECOVERY, WIPE, AND APPLY THE ROM! that is assuming you can get into recovery?
If you can't get into recovery sounds like another brick in the wall.
supremeteam256 said:
If you can't get into recovery sounds like another brick in the wall.
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[SINGING]
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
[/SINGING]
DirectMatrix said:
[SINGING]
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
[/SINGING]
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LOL. Good one
sounds like a brick
i just re-read what you wrote and yeah..sounds like a brick. spl's are tricky mo-fo's. maybe next time you will remember it goes RADIO, THEN NEW SPL?!
as3k said:
First of all did you install the radio first? AND THEN THE SPL? or did u just install the SPL?
If you only installed the SPL then youre pretty much f****d and you need to go get a replacement device.
If you installed the radio first then the SPL then you should be ok just go back to recovery and reflash RADIO THEN SPL u can get them [here], but from what youre saying thats not the case.
If you do have to go to get a new device, it is free **at least mine was** I just said that i plugged it in the night before, it had been getting really hot and that when i woke up that morning it just wouldnt turn back on past the G1 boot screen. if you just got it you will be able to get away with saying "the phone said there was an update available, i downloaded the update and now it wont go past this screen" play it dumb and you should be ok.
Good luck, im hopin for the best, it sucks to have a brick lol i been there done that.
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Im pretty sure i flashed the radio first but i forgot the spl and flashed the rom next... then i realized i didnt flash the spl and tried to flash it and it "successfully installed the update" so i pulled the battery out to reboot it and it just stuck at the g1 screen when i booted it... and no button combos worked to get into boot loader or anything like that...
but i called tmobile and they are sending me a new phone on tuesday lol
i dunno if i want to try it again =/
i thought i read somewhere that the newer phones brick easier? because of the new "board" or something
so do i
508bmartin said:
Im pretty sure i flashed the radio first but i forgot the spl and flashed the rom next... then i realized i didnt flash the spl and tried to flash it and it "successfully installed the update" so i pulled the battery out to reboot it and it just stuck at the g1 screen when i booted it... and no button combos worked to get into boot loader or anything like that...
but i called tmobile and they are sending me a new phone on tuesday lol
i dunno if i want to try it again =/
i thought i read somewhere that the newer phones brick easier? because of the new "board" or something
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you thought the best way to reboot your phone...was by pulling the battery? even though the recovery said reboot by pressing Home+Back keys to do it, which would be infinately easier? Have you ever "rebooted" your PC by pulling the power cord? nvm dont answer that....
I would suggest you stay the hell away from the spl until you understand wtf your doing.
rebooting PROPERLY would have allowed the image to be written properly.
EDIT: LOL wow nvm this is a thread brought back from the dead......

HELP PLEASE!! X1 wouldnt start up!

hey guys, i have a problem with my x1 where it wouldnt start up. It would just go to the tri boot screen and once it does, it ask for an upgrade and then turns off by itself. It would only let me press the power key to upgrade, but once i do it resets and a red light would flash. I tried hard reseting it and syncing to get back to the original rom because i am using a custom rom. I been using this custom rom for many months and had no problem with it. please help guys
please and thank you in advance.
Did you make sure you had AT LEAST 50% battery power? To be safe, you might want to let your phone charge for awhile before attempting to power the phone back on and resuming your task.
phatboy1991 said:
hey guys, i have a problem with my x1 where it wouldnt start up. It would just go to the tri boot screen and once it does, it ask for an upgrade and then turns off by itself. It would only let me press the power key to upgrade, but once i do it resets and a red light would flash. I tried hard reseting it and syncing to get back to the original rom because i am using a custom rom. I been using this custom rom for many months and had no problem with it. please help guys
please and thank you in advance.
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find any friend who has X1 charge battery full and than try to flash using Micro SD mthod.
on my X1 was problem like that but i flash
about 3 times there was same problem but when i try it again i was ok.
sorry for my bad english. hope u anderstand what i mean.
firs charge your battery full for safe your X1.
Im Packing said:
Did you make sure you had AT LEAST 50% battery power? To be safe, you might want to let your phone charge for awhile before attempting to power the phone back on and resuming your task.
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i charged it over night, and it still didnt work. ill try it again to make sure. hope it works.
phatboy1991 said:
i charged it over night, and it still didnt work. ill try it again to make sure. hope it works.
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You flashed rom via data link cable, Did't you?
If Battery empty while flashing rom, now you have a big problem.
You need MTTY to re-alive your X1.
Follow this forums ; How to resolve when has accident while updating ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371154
PS. Flash by using Micro SD method is the best.
chow-doii said:
You flashed rom via data link cable, Did't you?
If Battery empty while flashing rom, now you have a big problem.
You need MTTY to re-alive your X1.
Follow this forums ; How to resolve when has accident while updating ROM.
PS. Flash by using Micro SD method is the best.
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thnx, i will try this as tomorrow when my x1 finish charging.
so i tried the MTTY and its not working. I did all the steps like closing the rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe, but the WCEUSBSH001 isnt showing up. I cant get my x1 to turn on when i want it to. it just starts up by itself and when it does it goes to the boot mode and saids KOVSING.nbh- and ask for an upgrade. Am i doing something wrong? please help

what is haykuro SPL and danger spl? please help

hi guys
i have been having truoble installing other roms im using cyanogen rom with hard spl but i cant flash another rom when i do it stucks on tmobile g1 boot screen i tryed installing death spl but still it stucks on g1 boot screen then i had to restore my phone and it works please guys help me how to fix this and i want to know what is haykuro SPL and death spl and danger spl? and is haykuro SPL and danger spl the same if not were can i find them ?
Before you do anything else, read this tutorial very carefully.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Make sure that your phone has the PVT board and not a DVT board.
You can check by going into fastboot and make sure that it reads DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF on the first line.
Then you upgrade the radio first AND THEN you flash the Danger SPL.
Just make sure that you read that tutorial very carefully and know what you are doing or else you might just end up with a paperweight.
cg87 said:
Before you do anything else, read this tutorial very carefully.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Make sure that your phone has the PVT board and not a DVT board.
You can check by going into fastboot and make sure that it reads DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF on the first line.
Then you upgrade the radio first AND THEN you flash the Danger SPL.
Just make sure that you read that tutorial very carefully and know what you are doing or else you might just end up with a paperweight.
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thanks i will read this and try and see if this works or not i will reply here back
hi i did what in the tuturial said an when i Flashed the Radio "ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip know my g1 wont even boot when i press the power button nothing happens it does not even start please help me i dont know whats wrong?
Try removing the battery and then put it back in and see if it turns on. Then see if you can get into recovery mode. BTW, what recovery are you using right now?
cg87 said:
Try removing the battery and then put it back in and see if it turns on. Then see if you can get into recovery mode. BTW, what recovery are you using right now?
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i tryed everything removing the battery and putting it back on nothing works just dead it does not do anything when i try to press the power button im using cyanogen 1.4 recovery but whats the point of it if the phone is not powering on?
loveispoison said:
i tryed everything removing the battery and putting it back on nothing works just dead it does not do anything when i try to press the power button im using cyanogen 1.4 recovery but whats the point of it if the phone is not powering on?
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Did you check to see if you phone has a PVT board? Did you install the radio first and then install the SPL? If you did it the other way around, then will will have a brick.
Is the phone not powering on after you flash the radio or after you flash the spl?
yes i know the phone has pvt and i checked it and i installed the radio first i did not had the chance to install the spl and after rebooted into recovery i pulled the battery out and after that it did not power on
That's weird because the radio should not have bricked your phone. Since you were able to boot the phone after you flashed the radio, it couldn't have been the radio either. Why did you pull the battery when you were in recovery?
What was your battery level before you flashed? If it ran out during the installation, then you have a brick. Try charging it some and see if it turns on.
cg87 said:
That's weird because the radio should not have bricked your phone. Since you were able to boot the phone after you flashed the radio, it couldn't have been the radio either. Why did you pull the battery when you were in recovery?
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well the flashing was complete and i rebooted the phone and it went back into recovery and i removed the battery i tought i will boot into the phone instead of recovery
mejorguille said:
What was your battery level before you flashed? If it ran out during the installation, then you have a brick. Try charging it some and see if it turns on.
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battery level wa less but the flashing went ok it happend after flashing it i tryed another battery but same nothing happens
IIRC when flashing a radio, the phone will reboot itself during the process then carry on flashing.. you didn't pull your battery then did you..?
goldenarmZ said:
IIRC when flashing a radio, the phone will reboot itself during the process then carry on flashing.. you didn't pull your battery then did you..?
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when i flshashed the radio then i rebooted the phone and it rebooted into recovery then i pulled the battery out as soon as i saw the recovery mode
loveispoison said:
when i flshashed the radio then i rebooted the phone and it rebooted into recovery then i pulled the battery out as soon as i saw the recovery mode
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Are you sure it was the recovery screen? Did it have all the text options? The radio flashing screen looks similar.. If you pulled it out there, you're bricked.
I am pretty familiar with the guide that you said you followed. I dont remember seeing the part in it that says "pull the battery"...
UPDATE: After this persons unfortunate experience I have updated the guide to actually tell you not to pull the battery at any point during the installation process. I know its common sense but this thread goes to show that unless you tell someone not to do something they may think that its ok.
goldenarmZ said:
Are you sure it was the recovery screen? Did it have all the text options? The radio flashing screen looks similar.. If you pulled it out there, you're bricked.
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im sure it said flashing complete then rebooted it and i pulled the battery out anyways doesnt matter know bcoz there was guarantee on my phone so i took it back to them and told them when i woke up in the morning the phone was like this and i got my money back and i bought an iphone 3gs thank you for your help
Joe333x said:
I am pretty familiar with the guide that you said you followed. I dont remember seeing the part in it that says "pull the battery"...
UPDATE: After this persons unfortunate experience I have updated the guide to actually tell you not to pull the battery at any point during the installation process. I know its common sense but this thread goes to show that unless you tell someone not to do something they may think that its ok.
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thanks for your help
loveispoison said:
im sure it said flashing complete then rebooted it and i pulled the battery out anyways doesnt matter know bcoz there was guarantee on my phone so i took it back to them and told them when i woke up in the morning the phone was like this and i got my money back and i bought an iphone 3gs thank you for your help
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After you flash the radio it tells you to reboot and it reboots and then finishes installing the radio. Then it reboots to recovery. You must have pulled the battery before the radio finished installing.

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