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SMS Delay When Typing.

Does anyone know if there is a cure for what i've found to be my one MAJOR gripe with this fantastic phone.
Why when I type an SMS text message is the phone SO unresponsive? As soon as I start typing the phone is already behind my keypad pushes.
There are seconds between each push and the text appearing on the screen, it's quite regular that I type a few words of a sentence and by the end I have to wait ten seconds for everything to catch up.
I just dont understand why this phone should struggle with such a basic operation. Any ideas?

Yeah mine does the same thing. Thats the ONLY problem I have. THe one workaround i have seen is to close my messaging app once in a while. I always leave it minimized, but have found if I force it closed once in a while, it seems a little more responsive.

yes, i have the same issue from time to time. I regularly close the messaging app and also regularly reboot the device, but it doesn't make any difference that i have noticed...

Have you tried turning off the word completion option? Should be in Settings > Input, that may help but I'm not having that issue so I can't say for sure.

Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb

Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
jbmorales said:
Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb
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Well, i'm using a stock ROM and ... despite seeing a drastic improvement by turning off the auto-complete word option, this seems absurd that the only fix for this problem is to turn off a feature of the phone's texting system.
Surely there is something wrong with the phone or the ROM's that they come custom installed with for this to be the case.
I just cannot see why the only fix for this is to turn off a feature, i'm most disappointed with HTC and/or TMobile depending on who is to blame.

I'm using Duttys Dualtouch 2 ROM and had the lag issue because of the xt9 application. There's a cab called "xt9disable" that fixed the lag. The stock ROM may not have the xt9 applications, but maybe there are some registry tweaks in the cab that may help...

NoKeR said:
Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
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xt9 disable
There ya go.

Well I am going to try the xt9disable, and see if it works for me too. I notice the lag when typing a text message, and also when typing in Goodlink mobile messaging. So it doesn't seem to be software specific, its definately a device or OS thing.

You're probably not interested but i don't experience this issue. I've got a UK version Kaiser with stock ROM, not many apps installed (other than HTC Album, HTC Camera, a few games, Opera Mini 4 (can't wait till opera Mobile 9 ) and a few others). And whether Auto-complete is on or off i don't experience any lag.

PCM Keyboard issue

Ok first, i thought i saw a post about this before but i couldnt find it in search so here is my question. I like using the Pocket CM keyboard, but often it wont let me use it. If i select PCM Keyboard it just goes strait to the default keyboard without doing or showing anything.
I have also had this problem with another touch keyboard (i think it was Vito's or one of the other big companys).
Has anyone else had this problem or know of a solution?
EDIT: I found this thread that seems to have the same problem. IF this is the cause, does anyone know how to completely uninstall SPB Pocket Plus? I had the demo installed, but the time ran out so i uninstalled it. But i know it leaves traces because it knows the time ran out if i try to reinstall it.

pizzaguy said:
Ok first, i thought i saw a post about this before but i couldnt find it in search so here is my question. I like using the Pocket CM keyboard, but often it wont let me use it. If i select PCM Keyboard it just goes strait to the default keyboard without doing or showing anything.
I have also had this problem with another touch keyboard (i think it was Vito's or one of the other big companys).
Has anyone else had this problem or know of a solution?
EDIT: I found this thread that seems to have the same problem. IF this is the cause, does anyone know how to completely uninstall SPB Pocket Plus? I had the demo installed, but the time ran out so i uninstalled it. But i know it leaves traces because it knows the time ran out if i try to reinstall it.
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Same here. Sometimes it works, other not.
I also have SPB

I have this problem with all 3d party keyboards and I have never used any spb products. If the keyboard doesn't work I just soft reset the phone and then the keyboard works again.
I have an Orange UK Tytn 2 stock rom. Wonder what causes this problem?

Look for a program called sipchange it might help you.

I had SPB Pocket Plus (un-installed it because it wiped out my "X" button/task manager) and am now currently using Resco Keyboard Pro w/o any problems.

On my Kaiser I too had this problem with Pocket CM. However I have never had this problem with Cootek's Touchpal. I have configured Touchpal to activate at start up

i've never had this problem.
PCM Keyboard is awesome... but hardware keyboard is better IMO

I also am having this same issue with Pocket CM Keyboard but I never installed any SpB products ever. Any other ways around it?

Problem with SPB Pocket Plus & WM6.1...?

Hi there
Does anyone else use SPB Pocket Plus (latest version V4.0.2 - Dec 07) and WM6.1 and suffer the annoying problem where the today plugin icons don't pickup correctly after a reset?
It's easily fixed by clicking to refresh all tabs, but surely it shouldn't do it???
I'm also suffering a problem whereby not all text messages are received by my phone. (I posted in the General section with no joy - am hoping that you software guys may know if something conflicts?!) It's very strange as the phone lights up as if a text is coming through, then nothing happens. I've tried a Hard Reset and restore to no avail.
Wierd thing is, my mate has a Kaiser on Vodafone UK (V1615) running WM6.0 and he has the same problem - I'm on O2-UK so it's not a carrier problem.
I set his Kaiser up for him with much the same software as mine, including SPB PocketPlus V4.0.2...
I also (I know, I'm sorry!) have a problem with the today screen if I change things... For example, if I change the backdrop via Pictures and Video's, more often than not the phone will hang requiring a stylus reset. Am wondering if this is SPB PocketPlus related???
Any idea's? (Sorry about the multi questions!!)
Cheers

sorry about the double post!

p.dixon0 said:
Hi there
Does anyone else use SPB Pocket Plus (latest version V4.0.2 - Dec 07) and WM6.1 and suffer the annoying problem where the today plugin icons don't pickup correctly after a reset?
It's easily fixed by clicking to refresh all tabs, but surely it shouldn't do it???
I'm also suffering a problem whereby not all text messages are received by my phone. (I posted in the General section with no joy - am hoping that you software guys may know if something conflicts?!) It's very strange as the phone lights up as if a text is coming through, then nothing happens. I've tried a Hard Reset and restore to no avail.
Wierd thing is, my mate has a Kaiser on Vodafone UK (V1615) running WM6.0 and he has the same problem - I'm on O2-UK so it's not a carrier problem.
I set his Kaiser up for him with much the same software as mine, including SPB PocketPlus V4.0.2...
I also (I know, I'm sorry!) have a problem with the today screen if I change things... For example, if I change the backdrop via Pictures and Video's, more often than not the phone will hang requiring a stylus reset. Am wondering if this is SPB PocketPlus related???
Any idea's? (Sorry about the multi questions!!)
Cheers
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As far as the PocketPlus, I am using it and I haven't had a problem at all with the icons or anything else for that matter. I haven't had any problems with the txt msgs either. You may need to reset the mms server?? I don't know about that, I just remember reading about it in another thread somewhere... As for the backdrop change, that's not a pocket plus related conflict. I am not sure what else you have installed, but I have changed mine multiple times in the past 2 days and haven't had a single problem or anything that told me I had reset or that I needed to soft reset the phone. I would suggest unistalling the Pocket Plus and reinstalling it. I know that I have had to do that before because of one of the other SPB proggies i used had changed some values in the registry for it. Otherwise, I would contact SPB, they would know how to fix it. Unless you didn't purchase it...

Hi Killerbeans!
I'v tried uninstalling and re-installing a couple of times to no avail unfortunately
The only other things I have installed (all bought and paid for!) that startup with the phone are SKTools (set to performance optimisation) and Kasperski AntiVirus...
I might try uninstalling those and SPB and reinstalling them one by one...
Cheers for the response though!

I have been havng the spb problems since 6.1 installation as well (I am with AT&T in the US, original Kaiser).
Thanks for pointing out the "Refresh All Tabs" option...I have to stupidly admit that I was not aware of it and I have been fixing the icons one at at a time....very boring...However, I have no solution to offer to the problem, other than to verify that it is a real one.

Hmm running fine on my kaiser with the hyperdragon roms...
Are you using the "close button" plugin? if so, did you enter tmail.exe and poutlook.exe as exceptions? don;t doing this could lead to problems
for the icons, I have the same problems too sometimes, did you install it on main memory? are the missing icons from programs installed on storagecard?
there is an option under today plugins->advanced, "refresh icons in today plug-in when storage card is inserted." try enabling that and see if it helps
Bartus

Hi guys!
Thanks for the responses! It's 'good' to know it's not just me having the SPB problem, although not good that it's happening at all!
I've installed it on Storage Card (as I have since my Wizard days). Using SKTools I've set the SDDeamon to startup 1st so was hoping that'd sort it... it didn't
I'm glad the refresh all tabs helped!
I've added those exceptions Bartus so I'll report back! I have the refresh icons when storage card inserted already which doesn't seem to work. It is the apps located on the storage card that don't load though so it has do be something to do with that.

Go back to 4.0.1 it doesn't have the problem.

Hi Sirooga
I'll give that a try, if I still have it on my HDD!
Cheers!

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Hi Sirooga
I'll give that a try, if I still have it on my HDD!
Cheers!
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did it work

Today Plugin Problems
I also use pocket plus on my Tilt, and it is apparently version 4.0.2 build 6227. What really annoys me is that the today plugin worked perfectly on wm 6.0, but after that &[email protected]#! 6.1 upgrade, it works fine for a few hours after I installed a lot of programs and soft resetted a bunch, until I backed up my phone. After using sprite Backup 5 ONCE, it deletes all my tabs and icons in the plugin and doesn't remember them no matter what I do. It still is checked in the today plugins menu, but it isn't there as there is nothing for it to show. SPB's got some serious work to do.
Dave

p.dixon0 said:
Hi guys!
Thanks for the responses! It's 'good' to know it's not just me having the SPB problem, although not good that it's happening at all!
I've installed it on Storage Card (as I have since my Wizard days). Using SKTools I've set the SDDeamon to startup 1st so was hoping that'd sort it... it didn't
I'm glad the refresh all tabs helped!
I've added those exceptions Bartus so I'll report back! I have the refresh icons when storage card inserted already which doesn't seem to work. It is the apps located on the storage card that don't load though so it has do be something to do with that.
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Today plug-ins shoud be installed to Main Memory.
Spb 4.01 works far better than 4.02 IMO.

[CAB] Speeding up your Hardware keyboard Responce - Disable XT9

This is a cab that i used to ALWAYS use on my Kaiser to speed up the keyboard response of the device. Just tried it on my Fuze running ROMEOS and it definitely showed signs of improvement.
Install the CAB and soft-reset. Post your findings to this thread.
Makes this change:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME

Hi, I've tried this registry hack on TouchHD with production firmware, and it certainly does disable XT9 and re-enable the native WM predictive text, *BUT* it makes my TouchHD slow to a crawl. The phone still works but extremely slow (like 2-3 second reponse delay) and also gets extremely hot behind the CPU. It's as though there is still some process in the background desperately making unanswered function calls to XT9. I've had to re-enable XT9 just to make my TouchHD responsive.
Can anyone point me to a CPU/process tool so I could see what it is taking up all those CPU cycles and generating all that heat when XT9 is disabled?

You tried that hack on the Touch HD? Does that even have a hardware keyboard? I don't think that it was supposed to work with that phone. (Maybe?)

yeah.. this would have no effect on sip inputs...

Well there is one problem i got is that when i install this tweak i cant type æøå on the hw keyboard:/ (norwegian keyboard) so is there away to use this tweak with norwegian keyboard support?

Still searching as well
I am also still searching for a way to get rid of the whole friggin' black et9 input bar, but keep my hardware keyboard to be responsive to the sym key, and the function key for typing euro sign and pound sign.
I hate the black input bar, especially since after you type first name in a text message address bar, and press space for a second name, it fills ion a name that's highlighted at the moment.
That's just so annoying...
Anyone any clue on how to deactivate et9, but keep the hardware keyboard fully functional?

Is it working for Raphael??

chetstriker said:
Is it working for Raphael??
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it is posted in the Raphael Software section. do you now think it's working?

I think it wirked.
I have jsut installed it on my kaiser and it seems to work very well, But i am also old school and running solace v1, works great thank you! no more.. t hanky ou...lol

just pade the registry change...
seems to be working well... barely any lag at all...
i've made this change VVV as well in hopes to fix this problem... it also helped a little
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
“InitialDelay”=dword: dec 775
“RepeatRate”=dword: dec 23
with this one tho seems a lot better.

After i uninstalled this "disable xT9" my manilla sms meny dissapeared... Anyone knows how to restore it?

this actually got my sip full qwerty keyboard stuck in number mode...
i just changed it back to et9ime.dll and it's back to normal...
too bad... seemed to work well for the hard keyboard.

Works well for me on my HTC Touch Pro.
Thanks heaps ... it's been bugging me for a while.

are u able to uninstall this if dont like?
are u able to uninstall this?

frankjr927 said:
are u able to uninstall this?
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When I uninstalled this my sms meny in manilla disapeared :S

Works great for me, I've been looking for something like this! Thank you very much!

just a lil warning...
Be careful installing this on touch pros/fuzes. It has been known to get the on screen keyboard stuck on numeric mode. Some ppl have gone upto a week or two without the problem showing up. Just a heads up.

just a lil warning...
Unfortunatley, I did not read this post prior to installing the xt9 disable software on my Fuze. I really enjoyed everything, such as the older style auto correct, and the list of suggested words. Now that juicy "Full QWERTY" is stuck in number mode. Is there a fix for this? Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Rick

I did the reg change to get the win mob predictive text... which worked until I did a soft reset. After that, my FULL QWERTY is also stuck in number mode.
Changed the reg back to original, and I got back my FULL QWERTY. No need to soft reset.

this helped me! HTC messaging with hardware keyboard on xperia is much faster now... but not windows messaging...
but I found this, which helped out with that too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4195099#post4195099
great!

new SMS/MMS not appearing in INBOX! (win6.5)

I'm using only Titanium and every time I get a new SMS/MMS, the message does not appear in the INBOX. The moment I click on "view" from the today screen or click on the message on the TEXT panel, it would disappear. Is this a glitch or did I unknowingly disable something? Please help

Hi,
I am also using WM 6.5 (AHEN 6G Full) and I'm not having that problem, I cannot think of any settings that would cause your problem. Maybe you should Hard Reset your phone and see if that works.

Dom1n8tr1x said:
Hi,
I am also using WM 6.5 (AHEN 6G Full) and I'm not having that problem, I cannot think of any settings that would cause your problem. Maybe you should Hard Reset your phone and see if that works.
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I've hard reset many times. Though if I'm using XIP 21728 everything works fine. If I use a higher XIP like 21731 or 21806, then I encounter those problems. Not only does the text messages disappears, but I get no sound notification or notification on the taskbar either.