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Hi all,
I really wanted to try out the latest Hero build. So I began the procedure, first by flashing the radio, then the SPL. The radio update went fine. I also installed the new SPL (no errors whatsoever), but when I checked to see whether I had the correct version, it displayed HSPL10.95.3000 (I had installed a HardSPL before). I reapplied Haykuro's SPL update, and still no change. How can I remove the HardSPL, and is it okay to continue the Hero install with my version? I don't want to brick my phone (obviously) and I'm quite a newbie.
You cannot "remove" the SPL. it can only be overwritten by the Haykuro SPL. I suggest re-downloading the Haykuro SPL and flashing it again. Do not flash a hero rom with the SPL that you currently have.
Thanks for the reply. I tried overwriting it again with Haykuro's SPL, but it didn't work. On this website, I found that
The second type of HardSPL is truly HARD...They bypass the vendor checks on ROMs, allowing you to load any ROM onto your device. This is a necessity if you want to run a cooked ROM. They disable overwrite of the current SPL. This is why I say they are truly HARD. So, even if your ROM comes with a new SPL, it won't overwrite your HardSPL.
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So, is there a way to remove HardSPL? I've been looking for info on this for hours and found nothing.
peshkata said:
Thanks for the reply. I tried overwriting it again with Haykuro's SPL, but it didn't work. On this website, I found that
So, is there a way to remove HardSPL? I've been looking for info on this for hours and found nothing.
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Well if you remove HardSPL what SPL will you have for that like 5 minutes or so? Try flashing to Engineering SPL first and then flash Haykuro's Special SPL
Try flashing to Engineering SPL first and then flash Haykuro's Special SPL
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Tried it, worked great. Thanks!
Glad it worked peshkata! Could you (or a mod) please edit the title so it stated SOLVED so people know? Thanks!
Right now I am running Cyanogen 3.6.5 with the radio and SPL that have not been updated for a while (they are not the latest ones for sure).
Anyway in case I want to try out a Hero rom I want to update the radio and SPL, can I just update those with my current rom without having to reflash the rom?
I haven't touched my SPL, but I can tell you the radio is easy. Same as any flash - rename to update.zip and drop it on the sdcard. Reboot to recovery and flash. ROM will be fine.
Go to Settings > About phone
Check the Baseband version -- If it ends with .26I you have the latest.
I do know, when flashing the "DangerSPL" for Hero builds, you need to boot into fastboot mode (Camera+Power) and look for the text "PVT" in the first line on the rainbow screen. If you don't see PVT, you have the revision that bricks when flashed to DangerSPL
gecko666 said:
Right now I am running Cyanogen 3.6.5 with the radio and SPL that have not been updated for a while (they are not the latest ones for sure).
Anyway in case I want to try out a Hero rom I want to update the radio and SPL, can I just update those with my current rom without having to reflash the rom?
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When you flash the new SPL you will have to reflash your rom because the SPL will overwrite your rom.
supremeteam256 said:
When you flash the new SPL you will have to reflash your rom because the SPL will overwrite your rom.
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Ok I kinda understand that part but if after flashing the radio and SPL I flash the same rom (Cyanogen 3.6.5) again without wiping will all my settings and apps remain as they were before the update?
gecko666 said:
Ok I kinda understand that part but if after flashing the radio and SPL I flash the same rom (Cyanogen 3.6.5) again without wiping will all my settings and apps remain as they were before the update?
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Use the method in post #3 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593 it worked perfectly for me and yes your settings and apps remain the same.
One last question before I do this. I went into settings as well as checked at the fastboot screen and seems like I have the latest radio already and from what I read on this topic I should NOT reflash it right? About the SPL though how can I check what version I have? And if I already have the latest one and flash it again will I end up with a brick? Thanks everyone for your help.
gecko666 said:
One last question before I do this. I went into settings as well as checked at the fastboot screen and seems like I have the latest radio already and from what I read on this topic I should NOT reflash it right? About the SPL though how can I check what version I have? And if I already have the latest one and flash it again will I end up with a brick? Thanks everyone for your help.
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Don't flash Radio again if you have the latest. (2.22.19.26I) Power off your phone then hold the Camera button down and press the On button (red button) you should see a white screen with 3 lil' Androids on skateboards, up top it should say DREAM PVT (32B ENG S-OFF) <---might be different but second lines shows your SPL, for example mine is HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000) and if you have the latest SPL then don't flash it again your good to go. One more thing MAKE SURE IT SAYS (PVT) AND MAKE SURE YOU FLASH RADIO BEFORE FLASHING SPL IF BOTH UPDATES ARE NEEDED! Can't stress this enough because if you do this wrong you'll definitely get a Brick.
Cool thanks. I do have PVT and the latest radio, guess it's just the SPL. Thanks again for your help.
how do you find out what spl you have ?
can someone breifly explain to me what SPL is
and i right in thinking SPL is what can make a brick ?
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
Downgrade to Hard SPL from Danger SPL??
AdrianK said:
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
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When I rooted my phone I installed Haykuro's danger spl with the latest radio. I didn't know it can potentially brick your phone (hence the danger part lol). I'm running cyanogen 4.0.1 and it's working just fine so far but I had 3 questions
1) Is Hykuro's Danger SPL only risky during the installation process or can it still possibly brick your phone after a successful installation (in other words, elaborate on the "danger" part please)
2) Can I downgrade to Hard SPL after installing the Danger SPL
3) How would I downgrade to Hard SPL?
Thanks guys!!!
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
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If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
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AdrianK said:
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
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Thank you guys! In that case I'll just keep H's SPL seeing that I already installed it successfully without bricking my phone (yay)
Really appreciate both of your time!
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Unless you are Unrooting and flash the original spl. I've done this many times so I know it works.
Does SPL: 1.33.2005 help the regular ROMS run better (Cyanogen's)?
I use dxTop, seems to run out of memory quickly.
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Thanks for the warning!
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
sasa3791 said:
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
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If you didn't downgrade to RC29/7 then you should have the 1.5 radio. Check by going to Settings > About Phone and baseband version. It should be 2.22.19.26I.
I think you can just flash HardSPL as update.zip as you are, but I' not completely sure...
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I swear I've heard people say they have, but dowgrading the radio after installing Danger SPL did cause bricks...
I'll go check
You WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade your radio after flashing the new SPL or if you do not have the latest radio installed before flashing the new SPL
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Hmm can't find anyone that said they did :-(
FYI
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@Adrian K and nephron
When I unrooted my spare G1, I got it completely back to stock (circa October original shipment stock)
I downgraded my SPL successfully from the danger SPL all the way back to the original SPL. Also when I downgraded back DREAIMG.nbh, I confirmed at the time that the radio downgraded with it. My original post was on the unlockr.com when I was trying to help David of unlockr.com with some tutorials.
My original quote from unlockr
BTW: I have confirmed via the bootloader that the radio DOWNGRADES back to stock by applying the DREAIMG.nbh update FYI
From the bootloader I am now at
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
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nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I think it's downgrading the Radio, while on Danger SPL that will brick your phone b.
I have also gone from Hard to Danger back to Hard again with no issues.
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
polarbearmc said:
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
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If you are talking about the one click method that is know on the market as recovery flasher, that only takes care of granting root access and flashing cyanogen's recovery image. The radio and spl upgrades are on you.
Try here for more explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050
yea that's what i'm talking about... now don't get me wrong, i believe you guys here on xda first and foremost... but theres a video tutorial on android and me, and it doesn't show them installing the radio and spl between using the recovery flasher and then installing cyanogens 4.0.1... are they not doing it right in the video or are the radio and spl optional? all the guides on here seem to say you do have to flash them but the video clearly shows them not stopping to do it. so maybe their video just sucks haha. but any idea on that?
thanks so much
I have 1 click rooted and installed Cyanogen 4.01, I am on CRC1, my understanding was as I was already on 1.5 Cupcake, my current SPL and Radio were current.
I read somewhere that the 1 click method is only temporary root. But if someone could elaborate on this it would be very helpful. Also what is this hard spl ?
Hello all,
I have a rooted G1, CM 4.0.2, PVT 32B, and Radio-2.22.19.26I
--First of all I have read this thread."http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924".... How do I find my current SPL?
--Primarily-I would like to know why/if I should flash the Danger SPL. What benefits will it give me?
--Also, that thread I posted explains how to flash the radio, spl and CM mod.
Do I need to do all three things just to get the updated SPL?
--If I just want to flash the SPL. I think I just need to DL the "spl-signed" zip file and rename it "update" and flash it.
If I am wrong could someone please link me to a tut or explain how to flash the SPL only?
Thank you.
rakjer said:
Hello all,
I have a rooted G1, CM 4.0.2, PVT 32B, and Radio-2.22.19.26I
--First of all I have read this thread."http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924".... How do I find my current SPL?
--Primarily-I would like to know why/if I should flash the Danger SPL. What benefits will it give me?
--Also, that thread I posted explains how to flash the radio, spl and CM mod.
Do I need to do all three things just to get the updated SPL?
--If I just want to flash the SPL. I think I just need to DL the "spl-signed" zip file and rename it "update" and flash it.
If I am wrong could someone please link me to a tut or explain how to flash the SPL only?
Thank you.
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As long as you got the newest radio (which you do) just update.zip and update. The "danger" spl will free up more space on your phone allowing you to install the hero roms. If you decide to do the new spl then be prepared once you flash it you will be stuck on the g1 screen. All you got to do is load a new rom and you'll be back to normal.
Thanks for the reply.
supremeteam256 said:
If you decide to do the new spl then be prepared once you flash it you will be stuck on the g1 screen. All you got to do is load a new rom and you'll be back to normal.
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So when I am stuck, how do I reboot to load a rom? Do I remove the battery?
rakjer said:
Thanks for the reply.
So when I am stuck, how do I reboot to load a rom? Do I remove the battery?
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Just before you flash the new spl put the rom you want to use on the sd card, then boot into recovery and flash. Remember if you use the new recovery you don't have to rename to update.zip.
Thanks for your help!
It Worked!!!
Cool no problem. If you don't mind put [SOLVED] in front of your thread.
spl info ?
Hi,
while this thread is on the go may i ask anyone if they can tell me how to display the currently installed SPL ?
is there a command that shows this info ??? is there another method ???
and am i correct to assume that as i have 90-MEG total on my G1 that i must have the latest SPL ??
i was so careless not making a note of which spl i used during the root method !
(( thanks DEVs ))
terminal 7 said:
Hi,
while this thread is on the go may i ask anyone if they can tell me how to display the currently installed SPL ?
is there a command that shows this info ??? is there another method ???
and am i correct to assume that as i have 90-MEG total on my G1 that i must have the latest SPL ??
i was so careless not making a note of which spl i used during the root method !
(( thanks DEVs ))
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To check, boot in to the SPL by holder camera and power when the phone is off. The version should be at the top of ths screen. A rainbow coloured screen means the SPL is stock.
spl info ?
THANKS...
i see three skater androids,, ..
i remember now, lord i must have been asleep when i did my root !
thanks for the reminder, now i can move on to the issue that made me ask the question in the first place,
anyway thats another thread,
[SOLVED] ... for me at least ....
I just rooted my phone. Baseband Version 62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
Kernal Version 2.6 25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected]#7
Build Number - kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC29 115247 ota-relkeys,release-keys
After rooting my i tried fastbooting by holding camera and all i can i see is
HSPL10.95.3000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
then below it is Seria10
Please I want to install Gingerbread and am having difficulty finding my way from here. I need help urgently.. Thanks
sounds like all you did was downgrade your phone, you still need to flash a custom recovery via telnet, then update radio then spl. if you want gingerbread then you will have to update your radio and spl one more time
google search "cyanogen g1 root wiki" follow the steps after downgrade (radio and danger spl, no need to flash a rom yet)
then dearch the developers section for ezterrys thread on the 2708+ update, here you will upgrade radio and spl one more time
now find the gingerbread rom you want
flash it from recovery
be very careful to read through and understand what you are doing, a brick is easy if your careless when flashing firmware
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For easier installation of recovery ,just download ROM MANAGER from googleplay ,end via instal clockwork recovery or for best work RA recovery .
Then you can easily change radio and SPL via recovery ,and instal cyanogen rom ,or or whatever you want.
!!!Just be very careful when changing radio end SPL ,read what first must flashing radio or SPL !!!
One mistake end you phone is bricked!
Sory for my bad englich,and hapy flashing:good:
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demkantor said:
sounds like all you did was downgrade your phone, you still need to flash a custom recovery via telnet, then update radio then spl. if you want gingerbread then you will have to update your radio and spl one more time
google search "cyanogen g1 root wiki" follow the steps after downgrade (radio and danger spl, no need to flash a rom yet)
then dearch the developers section for ezterrys thread on the 2708+ update, here you will upgrade radio and spl one more time
now find the gingerbread rom you want
flash it from recovery
be very careful to read through and understand what you are doing, a brick is easy if your careless when flashing firmware
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Thanks so much..am on it.. i went through a post about adb fastbooting process downloaded the files etc using the cmd commands given to me.. I hope am on the right part.
I did the custom flash recovery via telnet immediately i downgraded my G1. should i do it again before updating the radio and spl?
If you have amonra now (or clockwork recovery) then you don't need to reflash it. Just boot I to recovery (hold home while powering on) from here is where you will be changing you radio and SPL
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