Hello there guys.
I'm new here and I just bought a blue angel. I'm thinking to upgrade my Windows Mobile 2003 to WM6 or WM6.1 or WM6.5, but I don't know which one to choose - Which one of then is better and more realible?
I was wondering upgrade to WM 6.1 but I saw the WM6.5 and I really loved the desktop, menus, windows, etc.. but, from what I read, the xplode and sun_dream release are both beta?
I'd like to read first of all the answers for all this questions and then I'll ask for other questions.
Another question is about in how to know which one to choose, better, which one will fit to my SPV M2000. I'm saying this because a read that - "How do I find the correct upgrade ROM that will work for me?" and I need to "1. Go to "List of know Blueangel, sold as, Model ID, Operator code etc"" to see which one (of both I choose) works in my SPV M2000? Is that truth? That means that we are conditioned?
Best regards, and I'd like to thanks in advance.
ok, don't panic, i see your problem. in general there are 2 kinds of "blueangel" devices the actual blueangel (gsm) and the harrier (cdma). your model is a blueangel, so don't worry.
there are plenty more differences between several blueangel models, like camera or no camera or the different manufacturers of displays or the slightly different weight or button layout, but all of that doesn't matter for flashing a rom. that might be an issue when buying spare parts. no worries about that.
you are right in asking before picking a rom, but actually each person has to choose for him-/herself, because it is a question of taste and what you actually use your device for.
the beta status of wm6.5 is due to the not yet officially released wm6.5. you can still use those and they won't hurt your device. since up or downgrading will be no problem, once you read the wiki wizard and get your device unlocked and stuff.
what you need to know is, before first upgrading, you have a lot of work and a lot of reading to do, but once you did that and prepared your device for flashing, it will so easy, you can test a rom, and as soon as you realize you don't like it anymore, pick another one.
there is really no need to pick a rom like it was a dead end. you can flash your device over and over again.
but the most important thing is, follow the wizard for your first upgrade, don't skip any steps, don't be a smartass, because then you might hurt your device or end up starting all over.
the wizard is to be found here
i already set, that you want to upgrade to wm5 or higher and come from wm2003.
the main page of the wizard is here
and once you go through the steps, at one point you will come to picking a rom and you can pick one of the list given there for starters, or you pick one from the forum yourself.
for wm6.5 you have the options of taking
- sun_dream's
- xplode's
- swampy's
- thanhcong_to's
have fun
greetz
Chef_Tony
Thanks for your reply.
BTW, I'm from portugal, and I bought my Blue Angel (SPV M2000 - orange) to I guy here in Portugal, but I think he bought this device and ebay, or maybe in England (vacations), don't know.
Well, in part I understood everything you wrote, but I still having some doubts.
But first, I'd like to ask something else.
When I bought my Blue Angel (SPV M2000 - orange) the guy who I bought, told me that the BA was unlocked, and it's true, and here is the question.
When I make the upgrade to WM 6.1 (I'm more inclined to this one - but I've something else to ask about this), I'll "lose the unlocking"?
Now about the WM's, I'm more inclined to the WM6.1, but I've some doubts about this. Which diferences exist between the WM6, WM6.1 and WM6.5?
Let's imagine 3 BA, each on installed with one of the three WM's.
Which one is faster? What I mean is, installing the last WM (WM6.5) means that the BA is more heavy, slow, compared to WM6.1? Do you understand what I mean?
About the WM6.5 BETA, when the WM6.5 became official, the BETA version will suffer some changes?
For now i'ts all.
The next post, if I don't I've no more doubts about your post, I'll ask other things, now related with a step in the tutorial.
Best regards
first of all, the sim unlocking stays. that is no problem at all.
for the differences:
i can't really tell factual differences between wm6 and wm6.1, but i suppose that would be too hard to google that. i upgraded from wm6 to wm6.1 because sun_dream made a great build, that was very fingerfriendly.
and fingerfriendlyness is great and important for me personally. in general, after installing a rom or performing a hard reset, wm2003, wm5, wm6 and wm6.1 look all the same, the same today screen, the same start menu, and so on, wm6.5 is the only real different one from that, because it is the only one with the (invisible) honeycomb start menu and the titanium home as today screen.
by the way, you are always referring to the beta status of wm6.5 roms, but in the threads i gave you, you will find many different versions of wm6.5 the beta status sometimes refers to the rom state, sometimes to the os state, you have to look for yourself there.
and you are putting way to much weight on the versions. they all start with 6.X and it is all basicly the same os, there are not that huge differences like installing windows mobile, linux, android or pandorra to the device. it is just slightly different versions of the same operating system, and what you do with it, is up to you. they are all extremely fast, right after installing, but then you install more and more custom programs and they get slower, so you have control over the speed.
but back to fingerfriendlyness and add ons.
you might have seen that many people here extend their today screen with widgets, like the weather, or fave people or music players or whatever. when you install wm6.5 you have the full potential, you can make the today screen look and feel like wm6 or wm6.1 with the classic today and today plugins, or you can install widgets, an option you don't have with lower versions. wm6.5 has a new internet explorer, that offers full flash support and a "desktop pc like surfing experience" so the sites you go to, don't look crummy anymore, they look exactly the same as on the pc at home.
and if you like your phone to be fingerfriendly (it is 2009, we are not 90s palm pilot geeks with a stylus) you should definetlely pick wm6.5 because for the normal wm6 you would have to install a lot of plugins and programs and apps... to enable fingerscrolling, bigger icons, bigger menus...
and that alone will make the device way slower that any wm6.5 one would ever be.
i would definetely say, that in the example you gave with the 3 devices:
if you had tose three devices and you'd start a third party program, whatever it might be, let's say spb online, it would start on the wm6.5 first, then the wm6.1, then the wm6. you see the higher versions and higher build numbers mean, that people were sitting and sweatiing for months to improve the system, it's not getting worse.
you should pick one of the newest releases, e.g. 23004 in the rom threads there are a lot of experiences and opinions shared, you can find out what's best for you. and again as a reminder, flashing one rom is not terminal, it is addictive. you see new roms coming out, you flash them, you see something you like, you flash it. it is a process of 10min. net and with all settings, customizations and installation of external programs it might take you 30 minutes, there was a time, when the roms popped up every day, and i would flash my device at least once a week trying out new builds and new versions liking the new one better than the old one, it is a hobby.
try any wm6.5 rom, if you don't like it, take another one, i really don't see, why exactly you need me to tell you, what to like.
i have no problem telling you, exactly how to do it, in every little step, with full and long explanations, but since i don't know you and what you like and what you need, choosing the right rom for you is impossible for me, sorry.
i know, sometimes i sound a little rude, but it is not meant offensive in any way. i hope for you, that you find the best rom for your device, but i doubt that that is possible without trying them. you can look at 50 screenshots and read 100 posts, you have to see for yourself, what a rom feels like and whether you like it or not, so don't be shy, try one out.
greetz
Chef_Tony
Ok. I understand, and of course you're right, you don't have to choose any WM for me, of course. But because I'm nood in this kind of stuff's a senior opinion is always welcome.
About the WM, so in your opinion is better try in first place WM6.5 right? Now, I've to choose the newest build, RIGHT? (so far as I understood) - BTW, why you're are using a older build than the newest from xplod?
Other question about WM to choose, which diference exist between the XPLODE and SUN_DREAM WM's?
Now, about upgrading. I've run the tutorial and I've some doubts there.
1 - I've read the BA Getting Started:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted
And I read "How do I find the correct upgrade ROM that will work for me?" and made me feel confused.
To use one of the WM6.5, for example, I need to know if it gonna work with my BA from a "X" operator? I hope made myseld explained.
So this means that not every ROMs works on determined BA, that's it?
2 - About the ExtROM. I read all the basic stuff but I didn't understood if there is any kind of inconvenience?
- Deleting the ExtROM I win more space, but for what? If the WM is stored at the SDcard.. The BA turns more fast?
- Deleting the ExtROM, when I make a HardReset, isn't suppose the BA load the WM only from the ExtROM and install?
- If I want the ExtROM back, how can I do that?
Best Regards and thanks in advance
1. that section, what rom fits to me? is about shipped roms, they have complex file names and when you go to bigger archives of shipped roms that is just the guide on how to find the one, your device was shipped with, every rom here will work with your device.
2. about the extrom:
2.a do you remember your last hard reset? your device starts up for the first time.
you align the screen, set the clock, cut & paste the appointment...
then the device starts.
and then comes the extrom, it states something like "Customization starts in 3... 2... 1..." and then there are a bunch of programs installed additionally to the actual rom. that is the extrom or extended rom. it is a hidden partition with 16mb of cabs (installer setup files). that means you always carry around those programs and the installer files, too. it is like on the pc having for example ms office installed and additionally you would have the image of the office cd stored. you can always re-install it, but it also means you take up double the space you would actually need to run office. so the extrom is like a backup of certain programs.
changing the rom to wm6.5 means, you cannot access that partition anymore, at all, neither could you use those old wm2003 programs.
so, deleting this partition, is generally good, because you don't need it anyway and gain space for your documents and ringtones and data. your "C:" drive gets bigger.
2.b the wm is NOT stored on the sd card, it is written in the rom partition of the device
2.c again, the rom is in the rom partition, after a hard reset you should insert an sd card with the extrom on it, so your most used programs, for instance, the internet explorer or office or any other program you want can be installed and used without wasting internal space, of which the BA only has 43mb (or after extrom delete 60mb)
2.d you wouldn't want the extrom back, as in the shipped rom, it is useless sh*t, like a dialer skin or a wallpaper, made by your carrier to software brand your device and claim its territory.
if however, some day you decide to go back to wm2003 (but why would you?) you flash the shipped rom. those shipped roms are "baked" roms, which means, they contain the rom, the radio rom and the extrom, while the cooked roms published here are only the operating system itself, there is no radio rom in there, nor is there an extrom.
in most cases like with xplode's rom, the extrom is offered as an additional download, but not to be flashed like with the shipped rom, but to be installed from the sd card to the device. that way it is also pretty customizable and you don't need to know your way around rom cooking, to get it to fit your needs.
about your other questions:
- the differences between those roms are to be read in the respective threads.
while sun_dream's rom contains little apps like htc large title bar or touch image viewer, xplode's is a little cleaner and contains hardly any external programs, so you can make it whatever you like, which makes me an xplode fan, although i miss the large title bar, which makes the clock, the battery and the network icons in the task bar more finger friendly.
- the reason why i am not on the latest xplode build is:
i use build 21202, which is xplode's release R6.1 (release 6.1, not wm6.1!), because i find it very stable and fast, while release R7 has little synchronization issues, when it comes to contacts, and R7.1 has tiny sync issues with exchange. i need to sync my device regularly with my home pc and my work and i have more than one device, so without flawless synching, i'm screwed. those roms are not yet options for me. probably i should have mentioned those little bugs earlier, because that can also influence your decision on which rom to pick.
cheers,
Chef_Tony
Hmm, now I'm getting.
First of all, before asking something about your last post, I'd like to ask something else:
When you say "and so on, wm6.5 is the only real different one from that, because it is the only one with the (invisible) honeycomb start menu and the titanium home as today screen." this means that this WM6.5 was "cracked", "modified", "was made a combination of", those too "applications", comparing to the real WM6.5?
Now about your last post, I understand the section "what rom fits to me", because this threat was confusing me!
Well, when I'm upgrading the WM, this will install at the ROM?
So those files at the ExtROM, that you were refering (3, 2, 1 ... etc), are some kind of software that is installed beyond the WM? That's it?
But when we make a HardReset where the PDA goes for the WM? To install it again?
What you mean with this:
''again, the rom is in the rom partition, after a hard reset you should insert an sd card with the extrom on it, so your most used programs, for instance, the internet explorer or office or any other program you want can be installed and used without wasting internal space, of which the BA only has 43mb (or after extrom delete 60mb)'' ?
''sun_dream's rom contains little apps like htc large title bar or touch image viewer'' what looks like that title bar and touch viewer? Where can I see one?
This WM6.5 we can do everyting that my actual 2003 do? Getting wireless, bluetooth, etc, etc?
BTW, what is the RADIO? And for what is for?
Best regards,
Thnks for you patience.
1. no, what i mean by that is, that wm6.5 is the first os that really has major changes in the looks of the today screen and the start menu, by adding new features (titanium home) and finger friendlyness
2. i understand why that was confusing for you, the thread might really suggest that some roms work and other's don't but it actually just wants to clearify which shipped rom is for which country, because for instance t-mobile or orange are popular carriers in many countries.
3. yes, the rom is the operating system, the rom contains windows mobile and all the drivers and some basic programs, just like formatting and re-installing your computer, you have windows, some other useful system apps, and solitaire
4. yes. the extrom contains extra programs that are not part of the operating system, again, comparable to the pc, you will find office in there, something that needs to be installed after you format your pc. you can also put your own programs in there, whatever you need.
5. for the upgrade process, you need to take out the sd card and the sim card. and then, when your upgrade is finished and your pc tells you to disconnect the device and make a hard reset, that is the point, where you disconnect the device, put in the sd card, and then hard reset. that way, when the device boots up for the first time, it recognizes the autorun of the sd card, and installs all the extra programs automatically.
6. please try and do a little research on you own:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=htc+large+title+bar
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Touch+Image+Viewer
and maybe you might want to do the image search as well, which is blocked for me here at work.
7. of course it can do everything, wm2003 can do, even much more, that is the point of upgrading
8. the radio is for wireless connections, like the name radio suggests, it is for your phone functions and so on.
Thnks for your answer!
I'm getting more and more clarified.
Well, getting what you said:
"for the upgrade process, you need to take out the sd card and the sim card. and then, when your upgrade is finished and your pc tells you to disconnect the device and make a hard reset, that is the point, where you disconnect the device, put in the sd card, and then hard reset. that way, when the device boots up for the first time, it recognizes the autorun of the sd card, and installs all the extra programs automatically."
This means that we need I card with the WM6.5, in this case, that will serve as a "CD of installation - camparing to the PC", every time we want to update the ROM. That's it? Once the ROM is updated, everytime we do a HardReset the WM6.5 will be installed by itself, from the ROM, "no needing" the SD card again, right? It's just this point that I'm confused, so that I can join all the pieces and put together.
BTW, when you said that the SUN_DREAM has some features, like the fingerfriendly, and something else, and the XPLODE doens't have nothing, that doesn't mean that, for example, in case of there is no WORD, EXCEL, etc.. we can install it anyway, right?
One more question, now related with my WM2003 that I'm using for now. When I take out the battery and install it again, the BA starts to install all again, and I've to make the screen alignment, etc.. Is that normal? In WM6.5 happens the same?
Best regards
you are misunderstanding some things again, but don't worry, that happens to a lot of people when it first comes to the extrom.
you don't really "need" the sd card, you can live perfectly without any extrom, you can copy all the cab files to your device and install them then. all the extrom does, is install a few programs automatically, and of course that is purely optional.
same thing about the comparison of sun_dream and xplode. xplode offers a great extrom, that contains office (word excel powerpoint) and internet explorer with flash support and also some other tiny programs like marketplace, automatic data settings, remote desktop and so on, but you can use the same extrom for sun_dream's rom or take sun_dream's one (if there is one, i don't know) with xplode's rom, or you download both, extract them, and pick the programs to install, yourself.
you are not forced to do anything there.
and that is why you don't really need an sd card, but may i ask: don't you have an sd card? a 2gb card is like 3eur. that should be nothing to keep you from enjoying the full power of your device.
the rom itself is stored in the device, no need for an sd card, and once you hard reset, you also don't need an sd card. the only thing you are missing out on, is the automated install of programs, which does not keep you from installing them yourself.
i know all this seems complicated, but that is partly because this is all very theoretical for you. let me make this clear by posting some things of my own.
i build my extrom myself based on xplode's 21202 extrom offered with the rom (and yes, that extrom will work with any rom)
i attached a screenshot of the contents of my extrom folder.
as you see there is nothing mystical about that.
there are:
- a bunch of cabs. those files are installers for programs.
- custom.bmp is a picture, that is shown, while the extrom installed, pure eyecandy, not essential
- autorun.exe makes the whole thing run automatically
- and cfg.txt is a text file, where the installation of those cabs is scripted
to make that a little easier for you, here is the content of the cfg.txt:
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
SHOW:\Storage Card\EXTROM\Custom.bmp
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\ADC.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\A2DPFix.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\HTC Large Title Bar.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\HTC_Touch_Calculator_Skin.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\HTC_WMP_Touch_Skin.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\Office_6.1.21202.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\PIE8_Flash3.1_21202.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\pocketrar.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\psShutXP.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\RDM_21202.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\sipchange.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\skybox.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\skybox.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\SMS Delivery Receipt Fix
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\WMWidgets.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\youtubeplay.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\R6.1_21202Fixes.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\blackblue_qvga.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\tcmdpocketarm.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\EXTROM\WkTaskL_1202.cab
LOCK:Disabled
HIDE:Enabled
EXEC: \Windows\DelCDetect.exe
HIDE:Disabled
RST: Reset
the first command lock enabled locks the screen and the keys so you don't accidently abort the installation
show custom.bmp shows the picture during the installation, and then there is the list of cab files, which install one after the other, then the screen and key lock is being disabled again, then in hidden mode the delcdetect is executed, don't worry about that and then the device is soft resetted and all those programs are installed.
that is all the extrom is for, there are a lot of programs i want to use with every rom i use. programs frequently needed for a long time now, and i don't want to sit there for hours and install one programm after the other by hand, copy the cab file to the device, then start the file explorer and install it, press ok, install the next one...
that is way to much work. and that is why i copied all my cab files in that folder called EXTROM\ on an sd card and every cab in that folder must be listed in the cfg.txt file, so the autorun.exe can find it.
and pleeeeease, do me a favour, before asking me, what any of those mentioned cab files are, copy the file name, for example "skybox.cab" and google them first. if you really want to know and there are no search results i can still write you what they are, for a few, maybe.
and yes, if you find any of the above mentioned programs useful, i can atach them here, there is no commercial program in there, so it is not warez for me to share them, they came with various roms, and i collected them.
well, and, did it click? now you should have understood the point of the extrom. and basicly, the sd card you insert in the device. the programs are installed in the device and you won't need the sd card till the next hard reset, and even then the device could run perfectly without sd card or extrom, you are just lacking a few programs then.
i wish you a nice weekend, i hope with the new knowledge you are able to flash your device, and afterwards you will think, "wow, some questions were redundant, it is self-explanatory" but don't worry, i don't mind, helping newbies. i was a newbie myself, not even a year ago.
have fun and if there is anything more, over the weekend from time to time i will have a look in the forum and i can help you out then, if anything doesn't work to plan.
and once the job is done, just like my signature says, please consider a small donation, for the coffee i need while writing complex and long explanations and tutorials like this.
cheers
Chef_Tony
Now I'm understanding a bit more
Now I got a little scared:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538691
I read that post and that made me think twice!
This guy had is BA unlocked, and when he updated to WM6.5 and every single other ROMs he just "When I was on the win 2003 SE, I have to use unlocker to make GSM working and that is working just fine... But when I upgrade to any other version of ROM or radio ROM, GSM doesn't function like it should...".. This means that he can't make any call because the BA is locked again to the operator from the country where that BA was bought.
In my case, I bought this BA in a forum from I guy here in Portugal, but I think he may bought this BA in ebay at UK (because is a ORANGE). And I don't know how he unlocked, but now, after I read that post I'm a little afraid of upgrading, because if I upgrade maybe MY BA will lock to the orange operator..
Do you understand what I mean?
Best regards
it would definetely not lock to the orange uk network, how would the device get the information what network to lock to, all the internal information is overwritten, in that thread the device did not get locked to any network either, he just posted, that his radio wouldn't work properly after upgrade, but when he downgraded, everything was back to normal again, plus, what are the odds? think about this forum. there are millions of users, permanently there are 4000 users online. the threads about the roms are filled with 100+ pages of people thanking the cooks for cooking the roms and everything went fine, and now there was 1 problem that is not YET resolved. what are the odds of that striking you too? by that means you shouldn't go out of the door because something could happen. in contrast to that situation, this one with the rom is reversible and still to be solved. no problem stays unanswered here.
and, if however it wouldn't work for you, (although i still don't see, why), you could still go back to wm2003 and what did you lose then? you are back to where you started and although you lost some time, you also learned a lot about windows mobile and met a nice guy who explained everything to you
i just realized something else about the thread stated above. that guy has 5 posts altogether, all in that thread, meaning, he didn't bother to ask people before upgrading. he was not as careful and thoughtful as you were, who knows in what ways he tried to upgrade. we don't know the rom he picked, and where that came from, possibly not this forum. maybe the problem he experiences are related to his carrier in sarajevo. or maybe it is a hardware issue, why would your device be broken, just because his is?
another thing is the (financial) risk you actually take with this operation. your device running wm2003 can practically do nothing a normal phone should be able to do. all the great freeware, popping up everywhere, does not work on wm2003. the os itself is pretty ugly and not user-friendly. it is all in all outdated and practically worthless in today's windows mobile and cell phone world.
this would mean, by upgrading you gain a lot of cool stuff, better ui, better support, coolness, and a piece of 2009 mobile lifestyle.
in the (very unlikely) case, your device would suffer any tragic accident, while flashing, or completely unrelated, you let it fall to the ground and the hardware breaks (much more likely), what is the price of another one? 2 years ago, when i first got mine (without knowing about this great forum and the potential of the device) i paid 250eur for it. today on ebay, they go out between 30 and 60eur.
don't get me wrong, i don't want to get you to do something you feel unsafe about, i just want to make sure, you don't over-estimate the risk, but you are completely right, not to under-estimate them either!
it is your choice, maybe if you want to pick up flashing your device as a hobby and keeping up with new developments in that sector, you could look up the device on ebay first, so you are prepared, if one day, you might need a spare part or another device.
to share another personal experience. when i first flashed my device, with an OFFICIAL upgrade by t-mobile germany, i thought i broke my device, because i saw no warning, not to use windows vista, because that would disconnect the device in the middle of upgrading. then i ended up being stuck in bootloader, with an empty device and no second pc running windows xp to flash the phone from. i was pretty terrified, but then i found this community and i tried again from a friend's pc and it worked, pretty crappy though, because i did about nothing right, no maupgrade, no extrom resize, no extrom afterwards, didn't even manage to do a proper hard reset, i used the device for 2 months in a crappy state like that, and then someone bothered to explain to me, how it is really done. and when i understood it, i suddenly knew how to do it the right way, and from then on i started flashing my device regularly to keep up with the newest developments, and to this day i experienced NO PROBLEMS that weren't caused by my own stupidity back in the day. but i flashed at least 50 different roms and everything always worked out fine. because being careful and think about all the steps gets you through safely.
again, i really appreciate your concerns and your interest to understand the process before you start. that is way better than to try it on your own and then start posting, when you messed everything up.
there were people, messing up their devices, but none of those was as informed as you are now.
i hope for you, that maybe after reading a little more about this really interesting topic, you can convince yourself to do it, i wouldn't even write try it, because i know, you can do it. you will definetely like it.
cheers
Chef_Tony
Related
I have just reflashed the firmware on my UK Orange SPV M2000 after porting my mobile operator over to virgin mobile. i did this so i could remove the Operator customisations which were just taking up ram, and also to see if i could make my phone more reliable (one of my biggest bugbears is not being able to use Wifi without a soft reset) as a result i can switch on and of bluetooth and wifi at will without any errors, and i havent performed a soft reset because of a problem in 6 days (i have soft resetted after installing some programs as it was required by the prog)
I achieved by first downloading ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/BlueAngel_Roms/BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar and removing the Radio_.nbf file and flashing that to the phone.
once that was done i did a hard reset then flashed radion rom 1.13 as described here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.13_Upgrade
I then downloaded all the files from here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAn...ERK_1.4X_002/I-Mate_PDA2K_Ext_ROM_140176_WWE/ into a directory on my PC
I then deleted
Default_ImateV112.002.cab -> dont need it as i havent got an imate so dont need imate email
Default_Caller_ID_BA_AKU26_RC20.CAB -> i will explain why in a minute
Default_Fax_V2.09_WWE_0720.CAB -> havent got a need for faxes
Default_SkypeForPocketPC.CAB -> this is pants and so is skype
and then i then added cabs for the following programs prefixing them with the Default_ so they would install after hard reset
Voice command 1.5 for Phone edition -> i think every one uses this
Photo Contacts Pro v 3.01 -> This is fantastic beats the IA caller ID hands down
I then used the extrom unlocker and deleted all the files in the extended rom and then copied my downloaded files into it. the then locked and hid the extended rom again and then performed a hard reset
once that was done i added in the Virgin GPRS and MMS settings (If anyone wants help with this part for virgin settings let me know as i am working on creating a CAB file with these settings) and renamed device and added owner information.
There are two problems now, the first i can fix, the camera raises the backlight to full and then keeps it that way. i just deleted camera.exe from the windows directory and then replaced it with the camera app that was originally on the device (make a backup of this file b4 you start)
The only problem that is left is a problem that happened with WMP9 and WMP10 if music is playing and you close WMP then your device loses all sound. i dont know of a workaround for this, but i make sure i pause any music before i close the app, not a big thing really
I then loaded on these apps mainly into the storage memory except that specifically request you install them into main memory
SPB Pocket Plus 2.5
SPB weather
SPB Diary
Ewallet
Tomtom Navigator 5
Microsoft Reader
Pocket Mechanic
and last but not least my favourite game Virtual Pool Mobile v1.6
This doesnt sound like many apps but it suits my needs perfectly for the moment.
I then took a full backup onto SD........
and viola one ultra stable Orange SPV M2000
i hope it works for you too
I would do what i did when installing apps and install one at a time and test especially task managers and today screens as these use up driver memory, this is where the problem with the WIFI and bluetooth starts
and in case i dont see you good afternoon and good evening and goodnight (watched the trueman show again! :roll: )
Interesting and well detailed,
I then used the extrom unlocker and deleted all the files in the extended rom and then copied my downloaded files into it. the then locked and hid the extended rom again and then performed a hard reset
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Can you elaborate on the above please
fuzzy,
Wonder if you can attach the camera.exe file here? TIA!
Can you elaborate on the above please
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What i mean is i run the extended rom unlocker tools on the device by selecting unhide & unlock and then through activestink browse to the /extended rom folder and then delete the files and then copy the extended rom files from the pc and put in thier place.
i hope that clarifies it for you
and yes i can attch the file for download, but its on my other comp and because of a failed raid array i havent replaced yet it takes 20 mins to boot, so i will do it tommorow
Thanks, fuzzy. Looking forward to that
fuzzy,
Are you able to extract that exe file yet ?
Nvm, fuzzy.
Found the camera.exe HERE.
Hi Fuzzy,
Where did you get the cabs from for:
Voice command 1.5 for Phone edition ->
Photo Contacts Pro v 3.01 ->
Cheers
Yohanson [/quote]
i got Voice command 1.5 with IRC on #pocketwarez on EFNET servers
and as for photo contacts i couldn't get it free so i ended up buying it (first pocketpc software i have bought ever, and to be blunt it was worth it for something that is used every time you recieve a call)
I have also incresed the number of programs by upgrading to latest versions of SPB programs and also added SPB time and SPB weather and i still have no problems with Wifi. it starts first time every time.
I have just bought 5 more of these phones but O2 XDA IIs so i will reflash these the same and then flog on ebay.
every one else who has one of these phones is jelous because it has been reliable as a rock since i did this, and i have still not experieced any problems since the flash, and i have not performed one soft reset because of a problem. i know a lot of you wont believe it but its true it has been rock solid for me. so i will test the same procedure on the five phones when get them and see if there are any differences
Great stuff!
I did something a little similar here.
I took the latest firmware and Extended firmware.
I then went through it and deleted everything I don't need.
Splash Screen, Clearvue stuff, Cingular settings, album, etc etc etc.. Although these would be neat programs... let's be honest... when it comes to the Blue Angel, less is more.
So right now, I'm pretty stable.
I don't put anything in the Protected ROM. I think a lot of apps don't like it.
We'll see how this goes!
Mike
Since I do not want to hard reset - what are the files that I need to remove in order to completely uninstall IA Caller ID ? - it does not show up on my installed apps to remove so I need to do it manually - TIA
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Since I do not want to hard reset - what are the files that I need to remove in order to completely uninstall IA Caller ID ?
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I havent got a clue of all the files that it uses but i imagine if you look in the windows\startup directory you will see a shortcut to start the program delete it and it wont run, but dont hold me to it as i havent got it installed to check what the shortcut is
I just came across this post, and I'm very new at this...
Can I upgrade my Cingular 8125 (fresh out of the box, but unlocked with lokiwiz02b) with this ROM?
I'm a canadian using Rogers service.
http://www.modaco.com/I_mate_SP5_ROM_Officially_Released_today_-t238322.html
philletourneau said:
I just came across this post, and I'm very new at this...
Can I upgrade my Cingular 8125 (fresh out of the box, but unlocked with lokiwiz02b) with this ROM?
I'm a canadian using Rogers service.
http://www.modaco.com/I_mate_SP5_ROM_Officially_Released_today_-t238322.html
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I wouldn't put a ROM designed for a Tornado SmartPhone on my Wizard...but that's just me. ;-)
What is it you'd like to accomplish?
oops
Holy ****, I just saw that... sorry, I'm really new at this...
Anyway, I have all the Wizard files from the xda ftp... I want to know what the latest and greatest ROM to use on my new 8125.
Something that has the push email support? Maybe something with updates similar to the one that the tornado got today? They can now send files by bluetooth from the file explorer, this is **** I was doing on my treo 650 a year ago!
By date alone, K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship_ExtRom seems to be the newest, should I use that one?
Now, i've superCID unlocked my phone, AND regularly unlocked it, is that all I need to switch to a new ROM?
Can someone point me to a post about backing up all the apps/customizations I've made to my stock setup?
Sorry, I swear I'm reading like crazy, but I could use a couple hints..
Thanks alot.
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philletourneau said:
Holy ****, I just saw that... sorry, I'm really new at this...
Anyway, I have all the Wizard files from the xda ftp... I want to know what the latest and greatest ROM to use on my new 8125.
Something that has the push email support? Maybe something with updates similar to the one that the tornado got today? They can now send files by bluetooth from the file explorer, this is **** I was doing on my treo 650 a year ago!
By date alone, K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship_ExtRom seems to be the newest, should I use that one?
Now, i've superCID unlocked my phone, AND regularly unlocked it, is that all I need to switch to a new ROM?
Can someone point me to a post about backing up all the apps/customizations I've made to my stock setup?
Sorry, I swear I'm reading like crazy, but I could use a couple hints..
Thanks alot.
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I must say you're quite brave for wanting to jump in without knowing a whole lot. But that's OK, I was where you are in the not too distant past.
A couple things - at this point it is impossible to get back to a totally stock version after you upgrade unless you have access to another stock 8125 or can get a raw ROM dump from someone to flash using a miniSD card. That said, you can quite easily get it back to a state that would look stock enough to allow you to return/exchange your device should you have any hardware problems.
If you've CID unlocked, you're ready to go. All you need to do is run the Imate or Qtek upgrade executable found on the xda ftp.
The Imate and Qtek ROMs are EXACTLY the same from an OS and radio perspective. The only difference is the customizations. In both cases you can skip the customization by doing a soft rest (stylus-in-the-hole) when the device gets to the screen alignment stuff after flashing.
When your device comes back from the soft reset, it will be a bone bare install of WM5. You will want to run a few cab files from the stock Cingular extended ROM, which is available in a zip file on the ftp. You can install every cab EXCEPT a file called gprsstall. It will kill your wifi. Every other cab is fine and will make your device look like a stock 8125. You can skip the 'good email' and 'get email' cabs too - they are for goodlink and express mail...don't know if you use those..
Anyway, take a deep breath and do it like this:
-plug in and establish activesync
-run either the Imate or Qtek installer
-when done, the device will restart and prompt you to align the screen..hit the reset button at this point and the device will reboot
-when the device comes back up, establish activesync
-explore your device using activesync and open or create a folder to put some files in
-copy the cabs you want to install from the cingular extended rom to the folder you have open on your device
-use file explorer on the device to select each cab file..it will install
-restart your device
-Enjoy.
Oh, both ROMs have Direct Push, so as long as your Exchange account has SP2 installed and push active, it will work quite nicely. Neither ROM has the ability to send files via bluetooth that I can find.
As for backing up your current customizations and stuff, what is it you want to try to save?
ok, I'm learning..
Wow, thanks for the helpful post, I hope to really get into this and contribute back to the forums.
Are the newer iMate and Qtek roms actually a newer version of WM5? I keep reading about this "MS Messaging & Security" upgrade that was supposed to have something to do with push email... is that included?
Aside from push email, what are the other significant improvements?
For the backup, I thought I read somewhere about backing up your current config on an miniSD card (i have 512mb), like the ROM and the apps etc, can that be done?
Any intermediary steps required to get push email going? I couldn't even find anything about exchange servers in the stock ROM, you can only add a POP3 or IMAP4 email account. Is it just a matter of adding a "new mail account" on this new ROM and point it at your exchange server?
Oh and finally, these "customizations" you said I can skip on the new ROMS, are those worth doing? Or do they just program in useless things?
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Hmm, ok, I was just looking at the Extended ROMS folder, duh, so these extended roms are bunches of little cabs that add customizations to a stock WM5? So looking in the ROMS folders... there's lots of files in each one. iMate for example has a WWE_216901_2169101...zip and a WWE_1010903_106...exe, what do the numbers signify, and which one should I be using?
Oh, and I could swear I saw some mention of Resco Explorer being in one of these extended roms, or somewhere on the FTP, is it?
I would strongly advise against doing this upgrade as it will re-simlock your phone back to Cingular and you won't be able to use it with Rogers. Further, lokiwiz has not been updated to support this new rom yet.
I know this is for a fact with the iMate rom, but I haven't seen anything conclusive about the Qtek rom. Noone here seems to know.
I'm in the same boat, I'm on Rogers with a 8125.
good advice
Thanks for the heads up. I'd like to use push email, I have the reins of our Exchange 2003 sp2 server here, so I can change any settings to make this happen. How do you even setup a non-push exchange server on the base cingular 8125 rom?
As a Canadian, have you done anything specific to your device to make things suitable for here? I know I installed GPRS monitor right away since our Rogers overlords don't have unlimited data plans (unless you count 100mb for an arm or leg every month), and I'm hovering at 7mb a month for $40... Damn I want unlimited...
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Thanks for the heads up. I'd like to use push email, I have the reins of our Exchange 2003 sp2 server here, so I can change any settings to make this happen. How do you even setup a non-push exchange server on the base cingular 8125 rom?
As a Canadian, have you done anything specific to your device to make things suitable for here? I know I installed GPRS monitor right away since our Rogers overlords don't have unlimited data plans (unless you count 100mb for an arm or leg every month), and I'm hovering at 7mb a month for $40... Damn I want unlimited...
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As far as I know, the only way to set up a non-Exchange server is via wireless Active Sync or via IMAP. I haven't done anything provider specific to my 8125 as I don't use EDGE for the reasons you mentioned, just WiFi as it's available both at work and at home.
I'm really dying to install the Qtek rom as by all accounts these roms are infinitely better and faster than the stock Cingular rom. But I'm afraid it will lock my 8125.
Alright, thanks for the advice. Let me know once you do flash your device, and I'll do the same. I suppose we're just waiting for lokiwiz to be updated?
So far I really like the device, I just installed wifitunes and am streaming music from shared itunes libraries at work, and it's flawless!
There's a great post in the Wizard forum that details how to create a miniSD backup of your stock rom. The above poster is correct in that this is the only way to fully return your device to its stock state. The process is simple and you are only out the price of a 128mb miniSD.
Do this backup then upgrade with impunity! Let us know if its still SIM unlocked too. Remember that if it isn't, a 40 second restore will return your device to its original condition. This will work even if the updater fails and "bricks" your wizard. However, I am not sure if the restore process restores the original bootloader, so the "HTC" splash screen might not be removed. I have tried the restore, but not with a Qtek upgraded device.
Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?
And which applications do you like?
C_shekar - I think you need some investigation which kind of soft user needs.
So let us post our vision of required soft preinstalled in ROM.
as far as I understand we taking about freeware.
My List:
1. Touch flo (if there are any possibility)
2. Dict
3. Alreader light 2\Hali reader
4. Total Commander Mobile
5. TCMP
6. Pdf - viewer
7. WM5-storage
8. Some sort of timer.
9. ICQ application (qip for example)
10. Gsplayer
11. Rar mobile
1. No RAM disk
2. 24MB Pagepool
3. TouchFlo
I think the ROM should stay clean, so the user can decide what apps he wants to add.
I think one can only add the HTC home tab thingie!
Cheers
divocak
no ram disk ??
man are you mad ?
for what reason you need all amount of RAM ?
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
But I`ve agree to save some extra mem by lowering page poll. (I think 16 mb will be ok )
No, just leave the pagepool at 32 as I think it's neccessary to keep the Rom goes fast. No more software should be added I hope 'cause users can add them in later on. Just all the important fixes and patches. And that's all. Anyone want to personalize the ROM can do that by creating an extendedRom in their SD, is it, so just try to keep the version pure (one of the best exapmle is buzz 3.33). But, the ROMs that personalized before by certain developers are appreciated as well.
obaz said:
divocak
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
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Oh i dont know that - i think that ram-disk is only for storage. thanx for info.
I agree. The upgrade rom should be a clean one so a person can choose exactly what software they require and will use. We must also remember that we all use our PPC for different reasons so there will never be a rom with software we all want or need.
Clean and Clear
Hello!!! Yes I think the WM6 should be clean version, if someone wants to install apps they can do so. The reason to keep the clean version is to make the device run faster.
Although there should be a clean version but also there should be a choice of software (seprately given). If need be people can install them on their Device.
Kind Regards
Jay
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
some softwares are necessary...
because not all of Himalaya users are goood at play the phone,they need it quick and all-in-one.
may be we can cook 2 ROMs,one clean version of WM6 and one with extra applications
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
Kind Regards
Jay
very very clean please
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
Maggy said:
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
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Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
jaytheguru said:
But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
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Personally, I don't think so.
If one wouls want to install some software (common used, for example) he would install it in storage mem. And I could make it into rom instead.
If you don't want to use it - just don't use it
One day we would make a kitchen - and then all could make their own personal rom.
Personally, I can tell you that I'm going to release a clean and speed tweaked rom - once, and then I'm going to start releasing my personalized one.
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
bearshare said:
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
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yes..i agree with you
jaytheguru said:
Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
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I wanted to give insight in how I use my Hima, it is by no means a wish list for a personalised ROM. (although volunteers are welcome to cook one for me ;-)
I hope others will give similar insight in their uses.
When I flashed to WM5 I thought I was using a clean ROM. It did come with Powerpoint and Exell, IMHO a waste of space. It didn't come with a working smartdial and it took me a full day to find a smartdial that works on one of my Hima's but not on another almost identical Hima. IMHO an awful waste of time unless you like to reinvent the wheel.
I've seen discussions in other threads about what they do/do not call a "clean" ROM. IMHO a clean ROM should offer as much basic functionality as possible. I believe Smartdial is one of these basic functions.
But every piece of software that you can find elsewhere, like Powerpoint and Exell should in my opinion be left out of the clean ROM, right?
A kitchen would be a good idea. A kitchen with a clear step by step manual that any noob can follow would be even nicer. Perhaps such kitchens were around before the ftp site closed, I'm only here regularly since a week or two.
I downloaded two files with the word kitchen in its name and unfortunately neither explained to me how to use it.
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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You r absloutly right
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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I can't agree with you any more
Dear All,
OK, I need to change the Signature. I shall do that after writing this entry..
So, I upgraded to the MDA Compact IV on Saturday morning through T-Mobile. I managed a free upgrade, which was nice.
I had owned an MDA3 for quite some time before moving away from PDA Phones. When I used to play atound with everything, we were trying to get the Blue Angel to go from WM2003 to WM5! - That will show you how long ago it was!
Anyhow, I got the Diamond on Saturday morning and spent a few hours charging it up. I played with the T Mobile software for a little bit before suddenly needing to flash the ROM with something a little more erm, better.
Having cruised through the Site, I did note that there were a few suble changes to what was needed to flash a ROM compared to how it used to be done!
Not knowing exactly who's ROM to go for, I trialled a few ROMs and have now settled on what matched my closest needs.
Everything was quite easy and I now have a Diamond powered by Swiftblades version 7 ROM with the 16MB Page Pool. I have just noted though that there is now a version 7.5 using a new build so I'll flash that later and see what differences I get. I may flash a lower Page Pool as I don't need to Multi-task different applications that much.. Yet..
As a result of the Version 7 ROM, the phone is running a lot smoother without any noticable lag however it is early days yet and the phone has not really been used in anger yet!
I also updated to the 08 Radio and I have to say, I am impressed with the Signal strength compared to the other phones I've had recently.
Battery life is actually quite good so far. As I just said, the phone has not seen that may calls but I have fiddled a lot whilst looking around. It had its initial charge on Saturday afternoon and with the fiddling, a couple of calls, some texting and a couple of email exchanges, I'm down to about 50% power. However, that was this morning and I've not used it since.
Anyhow, that's it really. As I become more used to the phone, I'll start helping out on guiding various Newbie questions, etc like I used to in my younger days!
Good review, that's exactly what i did, though i flashed a differnt ROM first.
What contract are you on if i may ask?
Im on flex web n walk £40/m (£90 cashback), the phone was free and i get 575 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited internet (works out £420 which ain't bad at all )
Also another question, i don't suppose you have seen a program that is actually good at backup & restoring apps/messages/contacts etc? At the moment i use Jeyo Mobile companion, which means i save all my contacts and threaded sms, then i backup my Start Menu folder and just copy it back after (as all my programs are installed on Internal Storage). This isn't really that effective as some programs may still have changed, some maybe updated in the new ROM and i lose the registry settings for Activating my apps/games etc.
Sorry for putting the pressure on you
Addicteddddd said:
Good review, that's exactly what i did, though i flashed a differnt ROM first.
What contract are you on if i may ask?
Im on flex web n walk £40/m (£90 cashback), the phone was free and i get 575 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited internet (works out £420 which ain't bad at all )
Also another question, i don't suppose you have seen a program that is actually good at backup & restoring apps/messages/contacts etc? At the moment i use Jeyo Mobile companion, which means i save all my contacts and threaded sms, then i backup my Start Menu folder and just copy it back after (as all my programs are installed on Internal Storage). This isn't really that effective as some programs may still have changed, some maybe updated in the new ROM and i lose the registry settings for Activating my apps/games etc.
Sorry for putting the pressure on you
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Pressure..? Hah - No worries..
Ok, I'm on an old fashioned Flext 30 Contract. I've managed to stay on the twelve month renewal plan so far. I pay £30 per month and that gives me 500 mins, 400 texts and unlimited Web & Walk. I did try to change a little while ago to a cheaper alternative however, T-Mobile themselves said that it there was nothing else that they could offer.. There's probably different plans available now but I think it's going to be best to stay with what I have for now.
Regarding back-up and restore, I guess this is something I need to look into. What I ended up doing back in the Blue Angel days was keeping the required Cabs in an external Memory to restore various Programs back on to it post flashing. The way then was to copy the cab into the Windows directory and then run it from there. Othere items such as Contacts, Messages, emails, etc were restored by running active sync before flashing then again afterwards.. I see there's still the PIM Back-up facility but in the Blue Angel days, it couldn't always be trusted and you ended up losing contacts, message settings, etc etc
Actually, remembering now, I used to keep a list of what needed changing within the registry settings for the programs I had installed.. haha
I understand that things might have moved on a bit now. For example, I noticed somewhere on the settings that Cabs can be installed and there's an option not to delete them after the installation process.
To be honest, I just need to play and experiment with the Diamond to see what it can and cannot do.
I've just looked back through what I've written thinking that actually, this doesn't really answer your questions but still, it's nice to talk! I won't finish by saying "Hope this helps.." hehe..
Nice to meet you.. I see you're running the 05 Radio.. Any reason why you're not using the 08..? I've read on here that there appears to be a positive leaning towards T-Mobile UK reception..
Looking forward to your reviews, always good to read something sensible and well written.
A couple of things to help you based on your posts so far - I've recently installed Swift's 7.5 lite ROM and so far it seems excellent - very quick and doesn't contain loads of software I'll never use. I use the 12mb pp version which works fine for me, but to be honest I've not tried the 0 or 16 versions.
I'm also on the 05 radio, and T-Mobile like you, and to be honest haven't tried anything later because it seems to work fine. If it ain't broke...
I tend to keep all my common cab files on the internal storage, you can install from there and by default they aren't deleted. No need to copy to the windows folder. I've reset so many times I can get back to a full working system within about an hour these days! The advanced config tools out there means there is little need to hack about in the registry these days, and ROM's like the excellent Swift ones often have many of the reg optimisations already set.
Nice review
Regarding the post flashing technique, I've tried sprite backup and SPB to restore across rom upgrades but never had much success - you always find that there are some things which don't work right. Also you end up overwriting things in the registry which are part of the new rom and have problems.
I have quite a few apps installed, but the only surefire way to get it right is to start fresh when you flash.
My technique is:
- Flash the new rom
- Set up the owner information and bluetooth deviceid etc.. (you need to do this for apps which have registrations based on the owner). I also set up things like ringtones now before installing anything - no reason other than personal preference.
- Connect to activesync to sync contacts/appointments
- Use either sprite or pimbackup for SMS etc..
- Set up email accounts
- Install all old apps (cabs stored on internal storage. I also put things which install through activesync on internal storage so I've got them to hand for reinstalling).
- Set up all apps how I like them.
- Set up the today screen, and TF3D programs/weather etc..
- All done!
It usually takes about an hour. It's a pretty dull process but it works and it's definitely the best way to do it.
There are apps like sashimi which automates the install process, but I find the installing from cabs part usually only takes around 5 minutes anyway - its the configuring which takes longer.
StarMonkee said:
Nice review
Regarding the post flashing technique, I've tried sprite backup and SPB to restore across rom upgrades but never had much success - you always find that there are some things which don't work right. Also you end up overwriting things in the registry which are part of the new rom and have problems.
It usually takes about an hour. It's a pretty dull process but it works and it's definitely the best way to do it.
There are apps like sashimi which automates the install process, but I find the installing from cabs part usually only takes around 5 minutes anyway - its the configuring which takes longer.
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Hi Star,
yeah, sounds very much like the basics haven't changed.. It's still a little long winded but hey, it stops you getting bored !!
Comment noted about over-writing items in the registry and it affecting ROM optimisations.. It's something I hadn't thought about..
ewans said:
A couple of things to help you based on your posts so far - I've recently installed Swift's 7.5 lite ROM and so far it seems excellent - very quick and doesn't contain loads of software I'll never use. I use the 12mb pp version which works fine for me, but to be honest I've not tried the 0 or 16 versions.
I'm also on the 05 radio, and T-Mobile like you, and to be honest haven't tried anything later because it seems to work fine. If it ain't broke...
I tend to keep all my common cab files on the internal storage, you can install from there and by default they aren't deleted. No need to copy to the windows folder. I've reset so many times I can get back to a full working system within about an hour these days! The advanced config tools out there means there is little need to hack about in the registry these days, and ROM's like the excellent Swift ones often have many of the reg optimisations already set.
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Hi Ewans,
OK, I've just updated to the 7.5 ROM so I'll check that out over the next 24hrs or so.. I've gone for the 12MB PP as to assess what difference it makes from the recommended 16MB PP Version.
You know, I might keep with the 08 Radio for a week or so and change to the 05 radio to see what differences I see..
Once I can pass on some observations, I will..
Dutty's ROM 2.0 Full, customized manilla abit (removed curtains, removed some tabs, add tabs [call history/comm manager], wallpaper)
Seems to be faster & more stable than Panosha's when i tested that but i haven't moved since as i got alot of apps installed and no decent way to backup the registry keys for them at the moment.
Always get the message "Storage memory is critically low." when starting my BA. In Settings storage is shown 1.41MB total, 1.41 used, 0.00MB free. Program 109,12 total, 16.86MB used and 92.26 free.
I have changed WM2003SE to WM6 professional making upgrade. The programs message, active Sync and sound & notification etc don't work
please don't double post, as this is against the forum rules, you posted the same question in several threads now, and whenever people answer, you don't react, like, whether it worked or at least you tried.
but since you asked me personally here, the only guess i have is, that you had a very bad flash before, and maybe some partitioning got wrong. i mean, where could the memory have gone? either the storage chip is really broken (bad for you, nothing you could do, but replace it) or you did something wrong.
let's hope for the 2nd option and try and determine, whether that fits.
so first go to -=xplode's shipped rom archive=- and download a nice wm2003 rom, i would advise a WWE rom, preferably in english, it'll save you some trouble later on (let's say, for example T-Mobile UK). then you flash that, following the -=wiki=- when it comes to downgrading.
make sure you use maupgradeut_noid and put the device into bootloader mode prior to the process. then, when you have wm2003, you download the tools, needed to repartion the extrom. i will attach them for you, put them on the device, install the cab (to main memory, not sd card) and run the normal extrom deleting process, to be seen in step 1 of the upgrade wizzard, -=here=-. after unhiding and unlocking your extroms and evetual soft resets in between, you have the option to access your extrom and delete all the stuff inside, or you make it easier on yourself and just start "repart_doc" (again, from the device, not sd card) and make the extrom partition become 128kb and say format now!
so, why are we doing this, you might ask.
i suppose, that you memory got relocated and is now a gigantic extrom, because the extrom and the storage space are partitions on the same chip, and if one is too small, the other one must be too big, so setting the unneeded one to its minimum size would make the actually needed storage partition normally 60.30mb in size.
you can simply have a look at start->settings->memory to see the different partitions' sizes then, and if the storage is up to 60mb, you can simply flash again the rom that you like best following the wizard, make a hard reset and continue to use your device.
that is about the only thing i can come up with. and please respect, that i sat here and thought about it and wrote a lot down, and made research you could have done on your own in the first place. so please stop opening new threads concerning one issue. opening new threads should be limited to contributions to the community. there is a Q&A section, and posting a question once is enough, because it will not stay unread and unanswered. please respect my work and the one done by other senior members, by trying out our suggestions and then post back (in the same thread!) whether it worked or not, and however you made progress on your own, so that these threads stay as reading material for other people with the same or similar problems. spamming is not a solution! no offense though, if i were really pissed off, i would surely not have answered in the first place.
thank U thank U........