I recently just bought a touch pro sprint phone. I installed .NetCF 3.5 and then installed Advanced Config. I proceded to change,Change file system cache to 8MB,Change file system filter cache to 131072,Change Glyph cache to 32KB. That was the only tweak I have done. Besides that I put google maps cab and torch button cab on there.
For the most part its pretty much stock the way it came. I was wondering about a different media player. I havnt used the media player that came on my phone much but everyone on the net claims it sucks and says TCPMP is best..is it? OR is there a better media player?? And is it worth changing to a new media layer?? If anyone has any tips let me know..I want to make this phone as cool as I can but there is a lot of apps I dont feel I need.
Let me know
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In as few words as possible, yes, it's better. TCPMP is capable of many more formats, for one thing. It has better playlist support, for another. Frankly, the HTC audio manager is a better music player than WMP, and I hate them both (I'm a staunch MortPlayer supporter for music playback). For video, I have tried many, but I've only been happy with TCPMP. I'm usually NOT a big fan of uni-task software, but MortPlayer and TCPMP are the total cream of the crop in music and video playback on portable devices. Their price only serves to make them more desirable.
One word of warning: if you start flashing home-cooked ROMs, and it seems almost everyone on XDA does, at some point, check to see if the cook has included it. Many who do not include TCPMP have jibed their ROM so much that it doesn't work with TCPMP, no matter what you try.
TCPMP is better than WMP on the Touch Pro, as it supports many more formats. It's what I use. I'm currently using NRG's EnergyRom 3.0 (I believe there's a CDMA version of it for you Sprint users), which has TCPMP included, along with latest versions of Google Maps, .NET CF, AdvConfig, and other utilities. I would definitely recommend flashing that badboy with a custom rom- you'll notice a huge difference.
Btw, don't listen to the over-blown performance claims of those touting CorePlayer- their QTV driver doesn't work worth a damn on our devices. I've tried it on my Fuze- trust me, it's not worth the money.
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I recently just bought a touch pro sprint phone. I installed .NetCF 3.5 and then installed Advanced Config. I proceded to change,Change file system cache to 8MB,Change file system filter cache to 131072,Change Glyph cache to 32KB. That was the only tweak I have done. Besides that I put google maps cab and torch button cab on there.
For the most part its pretty much stock the way it came. I was wondering about a different media player. I havnt used the media player that came on my phone much but everyone on the net claims it sucks and says TCPMP is best..is it? OR is there a better media player?? And is it worth changing to a new media layer?? If anyone has any tips let me know..I want to make this phone as cool as I can but there is a lot of apps I dont feel I need.
Let me know
Thanks
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corneliusm said:
TCPMP is better than WMP on the Touch Pro, as it supports many more formats. It's what I use. I'm currently using NRG's EnergyRom 3.0 (I believe there's a CDMA version of it for you Sprint users), which has TCPMP included, along with latest versions of Google Maps, .NET CF, AdvConfig, and other utilities. I would definitely recommend flashing that badboy with a custom rom- you'll notice a huge difference.
Btw, don't listen to the over-blown performance claims of those touting CorePlayer- their QTV driver doesn't work worth a damn on our devices. I've tried it on my Fuze- trust me, it's not worth the money.
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That’s not completely true. The best results will depend on which format you are trying to play. For example, WMV plays best on windows media player and AVI plays best on the Core player. Core player works great if you have the correct settings. You’re best “free” option is TCPMP.
Search for this version:TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-03.CAB
Tried them all and TCPMP has it's uses. If you are going to encode movies to watch on your device put them in m4v and TCPMP is pretty darn good.
When it comes to music playback though I will have to disagree with the above posts. I have tried them all as well and the absolute best in my opinion is Nitrogen. Simply awesome.
It's best for video. Music will be up to your preferences. I use WMP for Today Screen and Voice command integration
What advantages does updating rom do for phone? NRG's EnergyRom 3.0..is this the rom I should use??And what is this sprint CDMA version?Is it a rom?
and do I need to back up before deciding to upgrade to this cdma version? Sorry for all the questions,you guys are awesome.how do I tell what ROM i
have on my phone as of right now?
And!!! I just installed skyfire..should I be deleting enternet explorer off my phone if I only use skyfire now?? And If I get the tcpmp should I delete windows media player??
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And If I get the tcpmp should I delete windows media player??
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WMP and IE are considered system files. Good luck deleting them without crippling something. Just ignore them and/or delete the shortcuts from the programs menu.
As for the rest of the advice, if you don't know the difference between CDMA and GSM, and don't know which one your phone is, I would forget about flashing my phone, until I knew it like the back of my hand, if I were you, unless you want to turn your shiny, expensive phone into a shiny, expensive brick.
Hint: you have a CDMA phone, which means a ROM written for GSM will completely and irreversibly disable your phone.
Yeah, there's no deleting PIE or WMP (you can try, but you will fail, lol). You're going to have to cook your own rom, and figure out how to remove them without screwing a bunch of other things up. They still come in handy from time to time. I'm not sure how well ringtones work without wmp-I guess another media player can handle them. PIE is good for downloading off of rapidshare or other sites where there's a countdown. It's also good for logging into free wifi networks. The HTC Streaming Video works well with it, too.
Before you delete any built in apps, download and play this video clip (15 MB)
http://rapidshare.com/files/268091340/Comedy_Central_Stand-Up_Erin_Foley.mp4
It is a podcast video from Comedy Central. I did not encode it. It is MP4 and I might have renamed the .m4v extension to .mp4 (can't remember). the resolution is 600x400 (or so) with a decent bitrate.
TCPMP won't play it
Coreplayer won't play it/
Windows Media Player will play it
HTC Album will play it
TCPMP and Coreplayer are software-only renderers. WMP and HTC album use hardware acceleration built into the Qualcomm chipset.
It seems that only MP4 (m4v) formats have native h/w support on Raphael. I don't know if .wmv is also supported.
I also use TCPMP and Coreplayer (own it). Each has pluses and minuses.
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Hi, let me ask you guys a question. Does anybody of you guys that have upgraded it to Windows Media Player 10, have any problems running it?. I been having problems when I open certain files, specially WMV and MP3, I though it was maybe a corrupt codec or something, but I recently did a fresh install of the Windows Media Edition 2005 on my laptop, and its been doing the same thing. It sucks cause I can't use the media player as I would want too. the files even play on my MDAII but the player crashes on my PC when I play these files!. I tried to find the solution, but I don't really know what's doing that, I even tried to run the Kazaa lite Mega codec pack, to see if it was a missing codec or something, same thing. Anybody has the same problems?, and/or have any solutions?
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Hi, let me ask you guys a question. Does anybody of you guys that have upgraded it to Windows Media Player 10, have any problems running it?. I been having problems when I open certain files, specially WMV and MP3, I though it was maybe a corrupt codec or something, but I recently did a fresh install of the Windows Media Edition 2005 on my laptop, and its been doing the same thing. It sucks cause I can't use the media player as I would want too. the files even play on my MDAII but the player crashes on my PC when I play these files!. I tried to find the solution, but I don't really know what's doing that, I even tried to run the Kazaa lite Mega codec pack, to see if it was a missing codec or something, same thing. Anybody has the same problems?, and/or have any solutions?
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No problems so far Bro as a matter of fact I use WMP for loads of medias even DivX for example without having to install any third party codecs.
My guess is as good as yours - reinstall WMP10.
wmp 10 seems to have just ****ed my comp over all together!
Yo Yorch,
did u manage to fix your problem with wmp10?? because i got the same thing happening to mine..
Sounds like you either have a corrupted module in your graphics card drivers, your DirectX installation is a little screwy (Windows Media Player will try and use both to hardware-accelerate video decoding), or your Windows Media installation has gone a little screwy.
Either or. Maybe all three. I hate WMP10, I've so far avoided using it on my PC and I'm sticking with WMP9 for the time being - I still use Media Player 6.4 for all my proper video watching though
If you're having problems with codecs, it sounds actually like there could be a problem with your codec store too. You shouldn't use those codec packs, they clutter up your PC with WAY too many useless codecs, they install so many different filters and third party decoders your machine WILL (and does) slow down from parsing them all, adding their entries into the registry, loading them, registering them... Zzz. Best to keep your installations to a minimum, and use something like VLC - which uses the opensource ffmpeg and other free, opensource decoding classes to decode pretty much anything that's thrown at it. http://videolan.org to download that (it's a totally brilliant piece of software if all else fails, at least as a temporary workaround until you get your WMP problem fixed).
Of course, you still have Media Player Classic as another option too, google for that one.
Hi,
I tried using Windows Media player to play songs but they do not support copy right m4a files and other misc audio formats. Thus i used TCPMP player which is good to solve the problem but it does not have a SEARCH function.. any advice and other takes on other audio players?
Audio Manager is good. Works when display is off.
S2P or Slide 2 Play is the best one.
Audio manager is good but you can't specify a single folder to use, it will automatically scan for all mp3 and sometimes other audio files on the mem card. I it wasn't for that I would say Audio Manager.
I tested S2P but it does not have the SEARCH function, it doesn't even support playlist function... but its interface is very nice... any more better audio players out there?
I use Mortplayer and I also tried GSPlayer earlier on (both shouldn't be hard to find).
DUDE, this is a phone not an mp3 or a qps device. You don't need to play audio..
tcPiMP gets my vote.
Mort Player
Mort player is my favorite!
It has it all - great for Audio books too!
Get it here:
Stable version
Beta version
Vista Skin
or see below...
Enjoy!
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so any recommendation to play videos??
That's good
pop music is best one
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DUDE, this is a phone not an mp3 or a qps device. You don't need to play audio..
tcPiMP gets my vote.
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are you kidding me? why do people like you always chime in like this w/ irrelevant replies
"i dont use my phone for this, so i think its dumb that anyone else uses its for (blank) purpose"
if you forgot, there are phones like the iphone, sony ericson music phones, nokia n series, etc that are great multipurpose phones...which is EXACTLY what the kaiser is. if you're gonna stick w/ that ideology why don't you stick to a nokia 3395.
PocketMusic Rocks
For me this is a serious bit of kit. It's my phone, GPS, personal organizer and now an MP3 player in the car. That was made possible with PocketMusic - http://www.pocketmind.com/pmfp.htm
Get the full version otherwise the real benefits are not seen.
There seem to be loads of flavours of TCPMP floating around but ive yet to find one that does all Im after ....
What im after is the holy grail of video playback, a player that plays:
AVI
MPG
FLV ('all types')
MP4
The versions Ive tried play some FLVs but not others, or AVI but not MPEG.
The version i currently use is GF5500 but its will only play half the FLVs i try - plus it tears a lot on AVI (is this a hardware limitation of the touchpro ?).
Any suggestions ??
The last few phones i have had managed to play most video (the N95 was very good at that) so Im sure that the Touch Pro MUST have the capability for smooth playback surely
Use the cab at the bottom of the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
cheers ... but that was one of the ones i tried before - doesnt play mpeg 4 v2 (according to msg i get) and still doesnt play half my FLVs
unless im doing something wrong - which i wouldnt rule out at all
used to run tcpmp 0.82 on my previous Trinity device, not very impressed with it though (could be the slow, older device though).
not sure I can answer your q.
I use CorePlayer, latest build.
Ditto, I use the latest Core Payer and it plays all my video files including all my flvs. There's an flv plug-in for the TCPMP that I never had any problems with either, but I was happy to pay the developers for the commercial product after using their free player for years of viewing pleasure.
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cheers ... but that was one of the ones i tried before - doesnt play mpeg 4 v2 (according to msg i get) and still doesnt play half my FLVs
unless im doing something wrong - which i wouldnt rule out at all
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TCPMP may not meet all your needs. The link I pointed to seems to be the the best I've found for WM6.1 stability etc. Not sure if you mean WMV9 when you say mpeg4 v2 but if so, you can extend TCPMP funtionality by dropping WM5 codecs into your windows folder.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298126
I also use Coreplayer but keep TCPMP around as I find it best with Orb. Both will play the few .flv clips that I've pulled down from YouTube.
Keep in mind that on Raphael, WMP and HTC Album have access to h/w acceleration in the Qualcomm chipset, and run rings around CorePlayer and TCPMP for supported MP4 formats, including H.264.
We can only hope that CorePlayer will open their wallets to Qualcomm. I, for one, would pay for an upgrade (to my existing corePlayer license).
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Guys, do you have that many problems with the Musictab too?
Playlists are very important for me, so I create playlists on my PC and tried to use them with the Musictab.
Musictab finds the Playlists, but is mess up the covers, it only shows one cover for all songs.
And sometimes the Musictab doesn't cognition them after I set new ones on the card.
Any experience?
The other thing is that videos are never floating. They always bucking the first seconds or when I jump to a nother scene.
Any experience here?
This problem was the reason why I will switch to the iphone, cause the media peformance is very imporant for me.
And it's still so callow on TouchFlo (WM devices).
For the video performance issue, just use Coreplayer Mobile. It manages to run atleast realtime on all videos I've thrown at it.
I wouldn't waste more time with HTC Audio. I spent months and months trying to get it to work without success. I now use Coreplayer for all media needs and it works extremely well. Cheaper than an iPhone as well with better user control of managing files IMO.
Edit: For playlists I recommend the standalone application PlaylistMgr - very simple and effective.
But the Coreplayer isn't fingerfriendly! Why does the HTC Video application work so bad?
Edit: For playlists I recommend the standalone application PlaylistMgr - very simple and effective.
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Wished I would know that before. I set my Phone on eBay know.
Do you or someone else use this program?
If you create playlists with it, it works perfectly on the musictab (HTC Audio Manager)? The songs in the playlist has got all their own covers an so one? I had a lot of problems with the covers, the musictab only used one for the whole playlist.
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But the Coreplayer isn't fingerfriendly! What does the HTC Video application work so bad?
Wished I would know that before. I set my Phone on eBay know.
Do you or someone else use this program?
If you create playlists with it, it works perfectly on the musictab (HTC Audio Manager)? The songs in the playlist has got all their own covers an so one? I had a lot of problems with the covers, the musictab only used one for the whole playlist.
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I understand what you mean about swiping with fingers but I went through a lot of hassle because I wanted all that too and it was all a waste of time. Really the quality I am getting from CorePlayer surpasses any need for finger friendliness. CorePlayer is still very useable with fingers anyway using menus and I never use stylus.
PlaylistMgr has an option to save playlists in all formats including HTC Audiomanager format so yes you can create and then play in HTC Audio.
Regarding album covers/artwork I think the easiest way is to embed the art work on the computer using iTunes or similar. I do this and everything shows up in HTC Audiomanager and Coreplayer. I also spent a bit of time messing around with folder.jpg etc.. and sometimes it worked sometimes not. Album Art looks really good in Coreplayer.
I'm asking myselfe, why it' has to be that complicated to create a nice working playlist with a 600 EUR device.
Choosing a folder on the storage card and putting every song of if into a playlist, every song shown with the right albumart is possible on every walkman mobile mobile these days, but not on a 600 EUR Smartphone? That's absurd.
Yes coreplayer is maybe good, but I want a stylish fingerfriendly software for music, and the music tab ist stylish and fingerfriendly but it mess up in practice.
And videos should be playling floatly by stock too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
take this program for video encoding. it works super with htc album.
PhilXdaOrbit2 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
take this program for video encoding. it works super with htc album.
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I used it but the videos were still bucking.
F-Styla said:
I'm asking myselfe, why it' has to be that complicated to create a nice working playlist with a 600 EUR device.
Choosing a folder on the storage card and putting every song of if into a playlist, every song shown with the right albumart is possible on every walkman mobile mobile these days, but not on a 600 EUR Smartphone? That's absurd.
Yes coreplayer is maybe good, but I want a stylish fingerfriendly software for music, and the music tab ist stylish and fingerfriendly but it mess up in practice.
And videos should be playling floatly by stock too.
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I find Coreplayer looks better using the attached skin in case it helps.
I've speed tweaked my X1, but it still has really choppy video playback.
I'm using Core Player 1.2.5, are there any settings I need to change for smooth playback?
maybe using coreplayer 1.3.2 will speed it up a little?
Can I upgrade from 1.2.5 to 1.3.2 free?
Also, I remember someone saying something about changing the settings on it to play it smoother..
Ib hate to be "Captain Obvious", but why don't you convert your files to mp4 and watch them with WMP. Coreplayer is not hardware accelerated.
though coreplayer is not hw accelerated, i could always watch movies on my xperia without converting any vids. Never had stuttering. i always watch movies when i have cold hands, since the xperia did a double duty as a heater.
This is reality for the Xperia.
Upgrading Coreplayer
"Trying" TCPMP (won't work)
Different ROMs (custom or updated stock)
NONE of them will work. NONE of them! People kept promising me these things might help; guess what, it didn't help AT ALL.
The fact of the matter is, is that Coreplayer, nor any other player on Xperia other than WMP (Windows Media Player) is hardware accelerated, so you will NOT get decent performance.
However, in order to watch on WMP, you must convert to MP4. What a major pain in the ass.
As I've stated before, this is by far the most critical drawback to all HTC/Xperia devices and I don't see myself purchasing another device similarly- based on this fact.
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This is reality for the Xperia.
Upgrading Coreplayer
"Trying" TCPMP (won't work)
Different ROMs (custom or updated stock)
NONE of them will work. NONE of them! People kept promising me these things might help; guess what, it didn't help AT ALL.
The fact of the matter is, is that Coreplayer, nor any other player on Xperia other than WMP (Windows Media Player) is hardware accelerated, so you will NOT get decent performance.
However, in order to watch on WMP, you must convert to MP4. What a major pain in the ass.
As I've stated before, this is by far the most critical drawback to all HTC/Xperia devices and I don't see myself purchasing another device similarly- based on this fact.
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X2 is promising to have out-of-the-box xvid/divx support from media panel. I hope that they'll umitilize HW acceleration for these formats too. If so, maybe X1 will have that support in some new custom roms. Time will show.
But right now, either convert to mp4 and use WMP, or watch with lags (if it is a standard xvid/divx rip, played on coreplayer on high quality).
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X2 is promising to have out-of-the-box xvid/divx support from media panel. I hope that they'll umitilize HW acceleration for these formats too. If so, maybe X1 will have that support in some new custom roms. Time will show.
But right now, either convert to mp4 and use WMP, or watch with lags (if it is a standard xvid/divx rip, played on coreplayer on high quality).
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What does that mean? From media panel?
I. just. want. to. play. videos. using. Coreplayer. or TCPMP. like. my. 5 year old Dell Axim X51v!!!
i cant get a decent quality video to play on my xperia smoothly. Spent ages trying and just have given up now and since sony wouldnt help me at all i can assure them i wont be getting the x2
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i cant get a decent quality video to play on my xperia smoothly. Spent ages trying and just have given up now and since sony wouldnt help me at all i can assure them i wont be getting the x2
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Exactly. I had the same problem. What's even more bizarre is that some people (even some senior members) were telling me they had no problems. WTF? I mean, how is that possible. The lag is definitely there and noticeable!
I will vote with my money. The X1 is a godsend device. Thinner, bigger screen, get rid of optical and give a X51v-stye Dpad, better camera, image stabilization, real VGA recording, reasonable price, ATI video drivers and we have a winner!
As was said million times, only way how to play movies reasonably is to convert them and play using media panel or WMP.
Core player won't work except for very low bitrate movies, and for those lucky people who don't see every dropped frame as I do.
could i get a link to a really smooth wm4 converter and what is the best settings for smoothest playback?
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could i get a link to a really smooth wm4 converter and what is the best settings for smoothest playback?
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It's on the first page..... Last "sticky" thread.....
am i able to convert thru my xperia, or only through pc?
Only on the PC. I am not aware of any coverters that work on the ppc itself. The processors of mobile devices haven't been fast enough for such a procedure, until recently.
i play wmv on WMP and it doesnt seem to be hardware accelerated. its laggy.
wmv is crap. Use MP4 as it has already been said in many threads !
The problem of video lag is only with video taken from camera.
But check my X1 (silver) and another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVCLTOLnOkI
The solution is R1a.
It take less ram (with same configuration) and has powerful performance with video (also scrolling menu etc).
But it needs to fix more thing, like radio, mxp (from r3 is better) etc.
so the top one is r1a?
Yes, R1a with R3a mxp.
Bottom is R3a with r3a mxp.
I try to port r1a driver into r3a, but video palyback is broken.
So the only way is reflash r1a firmware, and made some customization (like radio, camera etc).