how do you find out what spl you have ?
can someone breifly explain to me what SPL is
and i right in thinking SPL is what can make a brick ?
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
Downgrade to Hard SPL from Danger SPL??
AdrianK said:
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
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When I rooted my phone I installed Haykuro's danger spl with the latest radio. I didn't know it can potentially brick your phone (hence the danger part lol). I'm running cyanogen 4.0.1 and it's working just fine so far but I had 3 questions
1) Is Hykuro's Danger SPL only risky during the installation process or can it still possibly brick your phone after a successful installation (in other words, elaborate on the "danger" part please)
2) Can I downgrade to Hard SPL after installing the Danger SPL
3) How would I downgrade to Hard SPL?
Thanks guys!!!
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
rondey- said:
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
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AdrianK said:
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
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Thank you guys! In that case I'll just keep H's SPL seeing that I already installed it successfully without bricking my phone (yay)
Really appreciate both of your time!
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Unless you are Unrooting and flash the original spl. I've done this many times so I know it works.
Does SPL: 1.33.2005 help the regular ROMS run better (Cyanogen's)?
I use dxTop, seems to run out of memory quickly.
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Thanks for the warning!
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
sasa3791 said:
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
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If you didn't downgrade to RC29/7 then you should have the 1.5 radio. Check by going to Settings > About Phone and baseband version. It should be 2.22.19.26I.
I think you can just flash HardSPL as update.zip as you are, but I' not completely sure...
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You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I swear I've heard people say they have, but dowgrading the radio after installing Danger SPL did cause bricks...
I'll go check
You WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade your radio after flashing the new SPL or if you do not have the latest radio installed before flashing the new SPL
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Hmm can't find anyone that said they did :-(
FYI
FYI
@Adrian K and nephron
When I unrooted my spare G1, I got it completely back to stock (circa October original shipment stock)
I downgraded my SPL successfully from the danger SPL all the way back to the original SPL. Also when I downgraded back DREAIMG.nbh, I confirmed at the time that the radio downgraded with it. My original post was on the unlockr.com when I was trying to help David of unlockr.com with some tutorials.
My original quote from unlockr
BTW: I have confirmed via the bootloader that the radio DOWNGRADES back to stock by applying the DREAIMG.nbh update FYI
From the bootloader I am now at
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
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nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I think it's downgrading the Radio, while on Danger SPL that will brick your phone b.
I have also gone from Hard to Danger back to Hard again with no issues.
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
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if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
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If you are talking about the one click method that is know on the market as recovery flasher, that only takes care of granting root access and flashing cyanogen's recovery image. The radio and spl upgrades are on you.
Try here for more explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050
yea that's what i'm talking about... now don't get me wrong, i believe you guys here on xda first and foremost... but theres a video tutorial on android and me, and it doesn't show them installing the radio and spl between using the recovery flasher and then installing cyanogens 4.0.1... are they not doing it right in the video or are the radio and spl optional? all the guides on here seem to say you do have to flash them but the video clearly shows them not stopping to do it. so maybe their video just sucks haha. but any idea on that?
thanks so much
I have 1 click rooted and installed Cyanogen 4.01, I am on CRC1, my understanding was as I was already on 1.5 Cupcake, my current SPL and Radio were current.
I read somewhere that the 1 click method is only temporary root. But if someone could elaborate on this it would be very helpful. Also what is this hard spl ?
This may be a dumb question but is there a way to check to see which SPL I have installed on my phone?
ValdreZ said:
This may be a dumb question but is there a way to check to see which SPL I have installed on my phone?
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bootloader (cam + power)
Where would I find it at? I see the radio. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731 - Thats the Radio and SPL I used. I was looking to see if its the same as the Danger SPL. If not where can I find it? I'm looking forward to the Cliq/blur rom by drizzy and I read in the post that your gonna need the DangerSPL. Thanks!
See sig for download link.
if your HBOOT says 1.33.2005, you have the danger spl
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I rooted my phone using the "one click" root method (from standard Rogers 1.5 firmware) (http://zenthought.org/system/files/a...1-20090908.apk) and then updated to the latest radio:
•2.22.19.26I
•Baseband Version: 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
•http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecod..._22_19_26I.zip
I initiall got the box with the arrow then the phone continued to the Rogers boot screen and has been stuck there for 20 minutes at least! So i took out the battery and turned it back on again and it get stuck on the Rogers screen still!
Have I bricked it!?! I thought you can only brick it when you update the SPL ... all I did was update the radio. Please HELP!
If it helps I was following the instructions step by step from: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how...page=0,2
according to the cyanogen guide I bricked my phone:
2.Be very careful of any upgrade or mod instructions that require you to install an HTC "Recovery" zip/image, a replacement radio, or anything that might cause a difference of versions thereby bricking your phone.
eg: you currently have an EBI1 system and recovery image. If you boot an EBI0 radio image you will no longer be able to boot your phone.
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Thanks in advance.
P.S. to clarfiy every button combination I press comes up with the Rogers boot screen. Unless I'm a complete idiot and am not pressing the buttons correctly I don't see how I can fix the phone if it won't boot! I though bricked phones are totaly duds (eg. they don't turn on/no charging lights...)
see if you can get it recovery mod? (home+end)
The main cause of bricks is using an SPL that is incompatible with the IPL (radio), hence it is possible not only to brick by changing the SPL, but also by changing the IPL.
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see if you can get it recovery mod? (home+end)
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Not a chance.
If all he did was change the IPL, then the ONLY cause for it doing locking as it is, is that the SPL is not compatible with that IPL. It is, therefore, bricked.
I didnt think that radio was compatible with the rogers phones, i thought that they had to use the 3.22.20.17 radio?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544654&highlight=rogers+root
if so that could be the cause of your brick!
joners said:
I didnt think that radio was compatible with the rogers phones, i thought that they had to use the 3.22.20.17 radio?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544654&highlight=rogers+root
if so that could be the cause of your brick!
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Way to repeat whats already been said, genius!
lbcoder said:
Way to repeat whats already been said, genius!
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Wow.... perhaps you should chill a little, these are Q&A forums, the purpose of which is to educate and help, not just baffle people with terms that its doubtful that they have heard before.
You'll see that i linked back to the thread that details everything that they should be to know not to make the mistake again, and anyone else that does a search will find it as well.
The rogers dream is compatiable with either radio. You just need your recovery/kernel version to match your radio version. The 2.22.19.26I radio needs 32B and 3.22.20.17 needs 32A recovery/kernel.
He needs to reflash the 3.22.20.17 radio then complete the rogers dream rooting guide on the cm wiki.
sorry if i missed it....
I am running cm 4.2.7.1 on my g1 currently
my radio is 2.22.19.26I
can i just flash the hardspl or do i need to up/downgrade radio??
again sorry if im asking a weathered question and thanx for any input
If you have the 2.22.19.26I radio and cyanogen mod you will be fine. Dont downgrade the radio if your going to update to Hard Spl. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod - this guide half way down or so has the instructions on how to go about flashing the Hard Spl. Hope this helps
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If you have the 2.22.19.26I radio and cyanogen mod you will be fine. Dont downgrade the radio if your going to update to Hard Spl. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod - this guide half way down or so has the instructions on how to go about flashing the Hard Spl. Hope this helps
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thanx... thats all i needed... got it installed now
I have the latest 2.22.19.26I radio and Haykuro's DangerSPL.
I want to re-flash both of these.
1) Is it safe to flash the radio and then the SPL?
2) If I decide to go back to HardSPL, will it be safe to just flash the HardSPL while the 2.22.19.26I radio is already installed?
I want to make sure my Android won't turn into a doorstop
PSP_Hacker said:
I have the latest 2.22.19.26I radio and Haykuro's DangerSPL.
I want to re-flash both of these.
1) Is it safe to flash the radio and then the SPL?
2) If I decide to go back to HardSPL, will it be safe to just flash the HardSPL while the 2.22.19.26I radio is already installed?
I want to make sure my Android won't turn into a doorstop
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why don't you want the haykuro spl?
Ok, maybe I won't go back to the HardSPL. All Hero ROMs require Haykuro's SPL and even some AOSP ROMs like SuperD need it too.
I just want to know if my phone will brick or not, because I've done simple stuff like this before but ended up with more problems (even bricks) because no one cared to mention there was a danger.
@hiddengopher
lol at your signature xD
so can anyone answer this i was wondering if you could go back to hardspl too?
You phone will be fine... and .26I is not a latest radio.