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This may be a dumb question but is there a way to check to see which SPL I have installed on my phone?

ValdreZ said:
This may be a dumb question but is there a way to check to see which SPL I have installed on my phone?
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bootloader (cam + power)

Where would I find it at? I see the radio. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731 - Thats the Radio and SPL I used. I was looking to see if its the same as the Danger SPL. If not where can I find it? I'm looking forward to the Cliq/blur rom by drizzy and I read in the post that your gonna need the DangerSPL. Thanks!

See sig for download link.

if your HBOOT says 1.33.2005, you have the danger spl

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Question about upgrading SPL

Hi, I currently have the 3.22.20.17 radio on my phone. If I follow the guide to root the Rogers Dream I will have to upgrade to haykuro's SPL with this radio. I have read that people have bricked their phones if they don't have the correct radio when upgrading the SPL. Am I ok to do this or could I brick my phone?
Thanks
If you goto haykuro's thres "rogers, here's your real root" the first line has a link to somones guide to flashing the spl. Follow that and you should be good.
Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering if it was correct that I am supposed to be starting out with the 3.22.20.17 radio for this guide.
beav_35 said:
Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering if it was correct that I am supposed to be starting out with the 3.22.20.17 radio for this guide.
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Actually it's 2.22.19.26I
So I am supposed to have the 2.22.19.26I radio already? Remember that I have a Canadian Rogers Dream.
beav_35 said:
So I am supposed to have the 2.22.19.26I radio already? Remember that I have a Canadian Rogers Dream.
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Follow what Haykuro's thread says (Rogers=probably not the 2.22.19.26I, you may brick your phone if you try the regular G1 root SPL method) . If you want to be safe, you can reflash the radio that haykuro posted
I'm sorry, I should have asked if the 3.22.20.17 radio is compatible with haykuro's latest SPL.
No it is not. You need to follow the guide exactly, I believe that you the stock Rogers radio. So just follow it and you should be set.
That guide gets you to flash the SPL before the radio and that SPL isn't compatible with my radio? Won't that brick it?
beav_35 said:
That guide gets you to flash the SPL before the radio and that SPL isn't compatible with my radio? Won't that brick it?
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The radio's for rogers are completely different from the G1's
You may want to try and PM Haykuro because I do not see a clear cut answer
I sent him a PM but I haven't recieved a reply yet.
Could someone that has rooted their Roger's Dream help me out with this?
Can someone please tell me if I need to upgrade my radio on my Roger's phone before I start following the guide or will it be fine? I am asking because the first thing guide says to do is upgrade the SPL. I just want to be really sure that having the 3.22.20.17 radio and haykuro's SPL together won't brick my phone.

SPL ??

how do you find out what spl you have ?
can someone breifly explain to me what SPL is
and i right in thinking SPL is what can make a brick ?
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
Downgrade to Hard SPL from Danger SPL??
AdrianK said:
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
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When I rooted my phone I installed Haykuro's danger spl with the latest radio. I didn't know it can potentially brick your phone (hence the danger part lol). I'm running cyanogen 4.0.1 and it's working just fine so far but I had 3 questions
1) Is Hykuro's Danger SPL only risky during the installation process or can it still possibly brick your phone after a successful installation (in other words, elaborate on the "danger" part please)
2) Can I downgrade to Hard SPL after installing the Danger SPL
3) How would I downgrade to Hard SPL?
Thanks guys!!!
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
rondey- said:
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
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AdrianK said:
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
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Thank you guys! In that case I'll just keep H's SPL seeing that I already installed it successfully without bricking my phone (yay)
Really appreciate both of your time!
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Unless you are Unrooting and flash the original spl. I've done this many times so I know it works.
Does SPL: 1.33.2005 help the regular ROMS run better (Cyanogen's)?
I use dxTop, seems to run out of memory quickly.
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Thanks for the warning!
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
sasa3791 said:
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
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If you didn't downgrade to RC29/7 then you should have the 1.5 radio. Check by going to Settings > About Phone and baseband version. It should be 2.22.19.26I.
I think you can just flash HardSPL as update.zip as you are, but I' not completely sure...
nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I swear I've heard people say they have, but dowgrading the radio after installing Danger SPL did cause bricks...
I'll go check
You WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade your radio after flashing the new SPL or if you do not have the latest radio installed before flashing the new SPL
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Hmm can't find anyone that said they did :-(
FYI
FYI
@Adrian K and nephron
When I unrooted my spare G1, I got it completely back to stock (circa October original shipment stock)
I downgraded my SPL successfully from the danger SPL all the way back to the original SPL. Also when I downgraded back DREAIMG.nbh, I confirmed at the time that the radio downgraded with it. My original post was on the unlockr.com when I was trying to help David of unlockr.com with some tutorials.
My original quote from unlockr
BTW: I have confirmed via the bootloader that the radio DOWNGRADES back to stock by applying the DREAIMG.nbh update FYI
From the bootloader I am now at
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
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nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I think it's downgrading the Radio, while on Danger SPL that will brick your phone b.
I have also gone from Hard to Danger back to Hard again with no issues.
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
polarbearmc said:
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
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If you are talking about the one click method that is know on the market as recovery flasher, that only takes care of granting root access and flashing cyanogen's recovery image. The radio and spl upgrades are on you.
Try here for more explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050
yea that's what i'm talking about... now don't get me wrong, i believe you guys here on xda first and foremost... but theres a video tutorial on android and me, and it doesn't show them installing the radio and spl between using the recovery flasher and then installing cyanogens 4.0.1... are they not doing it right in the video or are the radio and spl optional? all the guides on here seem to say you do have to flash them but the video clearly shows them not stopping to do it. so maybe their video just sucks haha. but any idea on that?
thanks so much
I have 1 click rooted and installed Cyanogen 4.01, I am on CRC1, my understanding was as I was already on 1.5 Cupcake, my current SPL and Radio were current.
I read somewhere that the 1 click method is only temporary root. But if someone could elaborate on this it would be very helpful. Also what is this hard spl ?

Did I Make A Mistake, Or am I Ok??

Hi all,
I was wondering if having the "Danger" SPL on my G1 is better than having the stock SPL?
Will I ever need the stock SPL for anything? AND
Is having the "Danger" SPL going to restrict me in anyway?
rakjer said:
Hi all,
I was wondering if having the "Danger" SPL on my G1 is better than having the stock SPL?
Will I ever need the stock SPL for anything? AND
Is having the "Danger" SPL going to restrict me in anyway?
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nope youre good
rakjer said:
Hi all,
I was wondering if having the "Danger" SPL on my G1 is better than having the stock SPL?
Will I ever need the stock SPL for anything? AND
Is having the "Danger" SPL going to restrict me in anyway?
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Here are the differences between SPL's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
Enjoy
Thanks guys.
And thanks htcclay for the link.
I guess my question now is should I revert back to the Hard SPL or keep Haykuros(Danger) SPL?
keep it
If you alreadly have the danger spl, there is no point at all in downgrading execpt if you had to send the phone back to t-mobile, who knows maybe you will need that danger spl in future

quick hardspl question

sorry if i missed it....
I am running cm 4.2.7.1 on my g1 currently
my radio is 2.22.19.26I
can i just flash the hardspl or do i need to up/downgrade radio??
again sorry if im asking a weathered question and thanx for any input
If you have the 2.22.19.26I radio and cyanogen mod you will be fine. Dont downgrade the radio if your going to update to Hard Spl. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod - this guide half way down or so has the instructions on how to go about flashing the Hard Spl. Hope this helps
plasmadragon007 said:
If you have the 2.22.19.26I radio and cyanogen mod you will be fine. Dont downgrade the radio if your going to update to Hard Spl. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod - this guide half way down or so has the instructions on how to go about flashing the Hard Spl. Hope this helps
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thanx... thats all i needed... got it installed now

How to tell what spl you have

I rooted my phone so long ago just following JFs instructions I cant remember what spl I installed and now with the need for the Danger SPL or Eng SPL to run the new eclair roms I wanted to know what I am running I booted into the spl and it says HSPL10.95.3000 so I am pretty sure that I am using the Hard spl, is that correct ? Does this mean I can not use the new eclair roms with installing a new spl ?
If you booted into fastboot and it said HSPL10.95.3000, then yes, you are running the Hard SPL, and yes, you need to install the new SPL before flashing any Eclair ROMs.
Joe333x said:
I rooted my phone so long ago just following JFs instructions I cant remember what spl I installed and now with the need for the Danger SPL or Eng SPL to run the new eclair roms I wanted to know what I am running I booted into the spl and it says HSPL10.95.3000 so I am pretty sure that I am using the Hard spl, is that correct ? Does this mean I can not use the new eclair roms with installing a new spl ?
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All you do is press
Camer+power then look next to Hboot.
tardie said:
If you booted into fastboot and it said HSPL10.95.3000, then yes, you are running the Hard SPL, and yes, you need to install the new SPL before flashing any Eclair ROMs.
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thanks, man I just l wanted to double check. Do you think that eclair roms will always require a danger spl or eng spl? I just dont want to bother changin before the eclair roms are even stable enough to flash for regular every day use.
Joe333x said:
thanks, man I just l wanted to double check. Do you think that eclair roms will always require a danger spl or eng spl? I just dont want to bother changin before the eclair roms are even stable enough to flash for regular every day use.
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1.They need Haykuro SPl
2.Didnt you hear the news?
Tmo will give the Mytouch/G1 up to 2.6 updates.This was said by tmo and some devs on twitter.
Ace42 said:
1.They need Haykuro SPl
2.Didnt you hear the news?
Tmo will give the Mytouch/G1 up to 2.6 updates.This was said by tmo and some devs on twitter.
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according to one ROM thread I read the creator of the ROM said you must have Danger or Engineering SPL. I have heard of people bricking there phones using Haykuro SPL. Thats great news though, I had thought they were stopping G1 updates after 1.6

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