I have a voice together a data plan fo my Touch HD, on the same SIM card. When I bought it the person of the cellphone company had told me that I may use the SIM on my phone and on a unlocked USB minimodem. For my surprise, I tried it and there is no signal using the minimodem. I contacted the cellphone company and they told me that I cannot use the same SIM on the minimodem. I think it's unfare. And I think the signal is blocked when I put the SIM on the minimodem through the miimodem IMEI. So, If I change its IMEI to the same of my Touch HD, I'll be able to use the SIM also on my minimodem, right? I don't think it's illegal because the SIM is mine, the minimodem is mine, the cellphone is mine and I'm not gonna use it for illegal purpses (like clone other persons phone), and because when I was just to take the plan they told me one thing and when I had taken it they told me another thing.
My question: does anyone know a way for changing my data card IMEI? It's a Huawei E156.
Thank you all!
Well - if it's legal or not is obviously going to depend upon what country you're in - but odds are it's illegal.
It is illegal to change the imei on any phone.
Whether for thievery or for innocent purposes ( as yours appears to be ), it is against forum rules to solicit help in changing imei's or other illegal behavior on this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276851
Wow not locked yet?
maybe im worngbut i thought the changing of imeis was illaegal only in certain countries
never the less still against board policy
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Wow not locked yet?
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I am gona move to Brazil in a few weeks and want to use my Diamond there if possible.
I have been serveral times in Brasil and use to buy there a prepaidcard but verry often I have problems with most off the phones I used there until now even whit a custom RUU, I was wondering if the imei which ofcourse is unknown there could be a reason for it so I thought if I could change it I can use it.
I know its illigal in some countrys.
By the way my Diamond is complete legal.
Willem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835
hope this helps
Thanks, but thats dealing about sim unlock, my phone is simlock free and the other phones which I used in the past in Brazil aswell.
I am looking for a Imei changer to change it to a by Brazilian accepted Imei.
Willem
Pretty sure that's illegal, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276851
Be careful with IMEI change. It's generally illegal in most countries, and not good for your bottom.
V
As far I now its not illigal in Brazil.
Willem
Hi Willen,
Sorry, but no information will be posted on xda about how to change an IMEI because of the legal ramifications.
It may be legal in Brazil, but anyone else could use it in a country where it is illgeal (for example, the UK) and then there could be some come back on to the site.
I have not seem any discussion on how this might be acheived either, so I don't know if it's even possible.
I wonder if any other Brazilain users might be able to help with the pre-pay card problems.
Thanks
Dave
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Hi Willen,
Sorry, but no information will be posted on xda about how to change an IMEI because of the legal ramifications.
It may be legal in Brazil, but anyone else could use it in a country where it is illgeal (for example, the UK) and then there could be some come back on to the site.
I have not seem any discussion on how this might be acheived either, so I don't know if it's even possible.
I wonder if any other Brazilain users might be able to help with the pre-pay card problems.
Thanks
Dave
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Hi Dave
If it is illigal in the UK does it mean that even a discusion about it is forbidden? I thought the UK was a country with freedom off speech, I realy can't see how such a conversation can come back at the site, but offcoarse the last thing I want to do is indanger this marvelous site.
By the way I don't now even or I am gona need to change the imei I am just orientating seems the last time I was in Brazil with my Trinnity I was not able to get connected and I would hate it to arrive there and trough my Diamond away, only the idea makes me feel sick
Willem
That its possible to change the imei show this movie this is about a Sony phone but for me its a prove that the imei isn't a hardware mater.
Willem
The IMEI is like the serial number (VIN) on a car. Sure you can pop one off and stick on a new one, but that doesn't make it legal. It's not hardware per se, but it's issued to identify a specific piece of hardware (ie your specific device). Why do you need to change the IMEI anyway? Does Brazil only allow certain ranges of IDs to work "properly"? And what will you change it to; how do you know a number will be allowed on the network while at the same time knowing it's a unique ID?
Sorry, this smells way too fishy for these boards.
I am not the onlyone who maid have this problem that certain imei numbers won't allow you to connect as far I now in Turkey they have such a problem with imported phones searching to find a way to use my phone in a other country with a local chip I came to this possible reason
That I have nothing to hide or that my conversation could be fishy I can prove to you by giving my Imei number and phone number and adress here and my future adress in Brazil if you want to.
Willem
IMEI Change still not possible for new devices Yes it's illegal in most countries, but in my coutry everything is legal. IMEI change, unlock, debrand etc etc even stealing is legal Really !
Ok, I'm not trying to point fingers or make assumptions you stole a phone or anything. I'm just wondering how changing the IMEI is going help. I mean, is it a frequency problem or something? I use CDMA, so I'm not sure what the GSM bands the Diamond supports are vs. what bands are used in Brazil or Turkey. Certain ranges of IMEIs might be assigned to phones with certain frequency capabilities; simply assigning one of those IDs to your phone isn't going to give it new radio functionality.
sorry but....
im many countrys this is illegal.....
in the u.k you can goto prision for this.
and for this reason this thread is closed.
My phone has been repaired and IMEI number has changed.
I need to reinstall the old IMEI number.
Does anyone know how to do that?
It's illegal and you can't.
Your phone hasn't been repaired, it has been replaced, hence having a new IMEI.
Well, weather it's illegal or not really depends on where you are. There's no law in Bolivia for example that prevents it...
But seriously, unless you want to (try and) deceive your carrier there is no valid reason for a consumer to need to change the IMEI.
What problems are you experiencing with your new phone that you want to address?
i used have problem with my touch screen. htc fixed my problem but they changed my imei number.
i am using this phone in turkey and i registered with old imei number.
i just want to replace new imei number with the old one.
You can't. Why can you not just tell them your new IMEI?
I need a new bill for the new IMEI number.
but i don't have
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I need a new bill for the new IMEI number.
but i don't have
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Type *#06# into your dialer for your IMEI number
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I need a new bill for the new IMEI number.
but i don't have
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or take off the battery, the new IMEI code is there with the serial number too.
i think what he ment is that in order to register a new IMEI he needs some prooving documents for the phone (AKA measure agains registering stolen phones)
It's not illegal to change IMEI #s in the U.S. We don't blacklist GSM phones, so thieves have no reason to change IMEIs. I want to know how to do it, though, because I think it is bull**** that AT&T tries to charge different data rates based on what kind of phone you have rather than how much data you actually use. They don't seem to be forcing the AT&T branded nexus ones onto the more expensive data plan yet, but there's speculation that it's only because they don't yet have the IMEIs in their database.
So please drop the legality comments and post if you have something useful to add.
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It's not illegal to change IMEI #s in the U.S. We don't blacklist GSM phones, so thieves have no reason to change IMEIs. I want to know how to do it, though, because I think it is bull**** that AT&T tries to charge different data rates based on what kind of phone you have rather than how much data you actually use. They don't seem to be forcing the AT&T branded nexus ones onto the more expensive data plan yet, but there's speculation that it's only because they don't yet have the IMEIs in their database.
So please drop the legality comments and post if you have something useful to add.
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Hey dickhead drop the attitude. There was nothing like your elaboration in the op and you seem to have gained some insight that we're not privy to.
You jump in to a thread and start firing off, how about you have a little respect eh?
the regulations in Turkey state that you can register 1 imported cellphone in every 2 years, so once you use that, you are stuck with it for 2 years..its legal to change IMEI numbers until you get detected and the only consequence is that they block that IMEI number as well, nothing major..
you can change IMEI numbers for many other brands, I'm sure there is a way to do that so if anyone has an answer, I'd like to know as well in case I need it someday
Call HTC and tell them you need documentation and why. They should be able to provide it to you, OP.
And to the other guy... we have rules on this forum. One of them is that we don't do illegal ****, or teach others to do it. If AT&T disagrees with your sensibilities, change to another carrier. AT&T sucks anyway.
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Hey dickhead drop the attitude. There was nothing like your elaboration in the op and you seem to have gained some insight that we're not privy to.
You jump in to a thread and start firing off, how about you have a little respect eh?
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If there's a dickhead in this thread it's the one spouting off because they think they were disrespected.
I wasn't even thinking about your post when I wrote mine. I get tired of IMEI-changing threads being effectively shutdown when someone makes a big deal over legality because it's illegal where they live and they assume it is everywhere. In plenty of the world it is not illegal and there are good reasons to want to do it to phones you legitimately own.
If there was any "attitude" at all in my post it was animosity towards carriers. I had no attitude towards any posters in this thread. I was even polite, saying please when asking for the legality comments to be dropped.
Changing IMEI Nos.
Lets forget about who is being nice and not nice and get to the subject matter at hand: changing IMEI numbers. I am interested in changing the IMEI number of my Nexus One.
I understand that changing the IMEI number is not illegal in the US (where I reside) and many other countries. So, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Regards,
Delafield
The problem with posting information like that is that it IS illegal in alot of countries. Where is XDA hosted? Who owns and runs it and what country are they in?
In many countries posessing the tools to change and IMEI is also illegal. So if someone were to start posting information it might not be illegal for you readers in the US, but it sure would be to have the information here for anyone hosting/runing/administrationg the forum in a country that it is illegal.
Bottom line is, its not about you, its about the people who run this forum and the rules they have decided to operate it under. You might think its just anal posters shutting down IMEI questions, but in fact they're being helpful by efectivly saying 'its illegal in many countries so you wont find the answer here'. I'm sure if you search there's many threads about IMEI closed by mods.
Having said that, if you are looking for that kind of information you are probably better off asking one of the many 'unlockers'. They would know about the security used on the Nexus and if its at all possible - AND if not illegal for them to help you they might do.
An IMEI # is a hardware generated number, and it is hard-locked to your device. Cant be changed, and even if it could there are no assurances that you wont duplicate a number out there already.
Whoever claimed changing IMEI's in the US is not illegal is wrong.
You are changing the IMEI to trick your network provider to steal services. This is fraud AND theft. It is most DEFINITELY illegal!
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An IMEI # is a hardware generated number, and it is hard-locked to your device. Cant be changed, and even if it could there are no assurances that you wont duplicate a number out there already.
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Actually on some phones its burned into OTP - but thats really rare these days. Its more often stored in a signed phone specific area (which also holds the simlock info) which isnt touched by any firmware updates. To change it you need to break that security or find some hole. As manufacturers make their phones harder and harder to unlock this secure area becomes harder and harder to change.
Most sim unlocks these days come from service centers, so although you can see _most_ phones out there can be simunlocked hardly any of those have had their secure area broken open.
Also the IMEI isnt used as a unique identifier for any network operations, so duplicating the numbers isnt a 'technical' problem.
But you can see from the above why even if it was legal its not easy and sometimes not even possible.
I need to change IMEI number for the following reason: I have an old phone that runs on a very good Sprint plan. However, when I bought a new phone (Nexus S) and wanted to replace my old phone, Sprint told me I need to change my plan too (with an 80% increase in monthly bill). So now that I have two phones in hand, I wanna copy my old phone's IMEI into the new phone and start using it as if I'm still using the old phone.
Please help!
Hi,
I bought a second-hand LG P970h from someone.
I am a customer of carrier "X" (not real name).
I have inserted my sim card to the phone, but the phone did not recognize it. So I can't use it for calls, messages and etc.
I checked in the web and I understood that my carrier blocked the phone for use with its sim cards because the device was reported as stolen.
I tried to convince the carrier to open the device but I did not succeed.
I tried to insert to the phone a sim card from other carrier, and it's worked fine.
So... what can I do now ?
I want to stay in my carrier and to use the phone.
Is there any way to do that ?
I have read a little about UNLOCK Code... is that the solution ?
Thanks a lot.
Do not buy stolen phones! Your phone could be the next one.
I am sorry, but is not ethical.
Enviado desde mi LG-P970 mediante Tapatalk
sahor said:
Do not buy stolen phones! Your phone could be the next one.
I am sorry, but is not ethical.
Enviado desde mi LG-P970 mediante Tapatalk
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I had no idea the phone is stolen
PLZ HELP !
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I had no idea the phone is stolen
PLZ HELP !
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The phone may very well have been lost or left somewhere by the original owner, or it may have outright been stolen. Either way, the original owner reported it as lost/stolen.
You have a lost/stolen phone in your possession. If your current carrier "called you out" on the issue, good for them! I'm glad someone actually tracks this stuff. Ideally the phone should be returned to the original owner, because he/she took a soaking on the cost of a replacement phone.
If you can find a carrier that doesn't care, then you'd better get a plan with them for that phone.
I'd also find a more ethical "someone" to buy used items from.
There's no bad on you at this point. You're not the first guy to get ripped off. But continuing onward with something that you know is probably stolen just isn't right.
It can be unlocked with technician
You would check phone thoroughly before buying..
Huexxx rockzzzzz
lg_p970 said:
Hi,
I bought a second-hand LG P970h from someone.
I am a customer of carrier "X" (not real name).
I have inserted my sim card to the phone, but the phone did not recognize it. So I can't use it for calls, messages and etc.
I checked in the web and I understood that my carrier blocked the phone for use with its sim cards because the device was reported as stolen.
I tried to convince the carrier to open the device but I did not succeed.
I tried to insert to the phone a sim card from other carrier, and it's worked fine.
So... what can I do now ?
I want to stay in my carrier and to use the phone.
Is there any way to do that ?
I have read a little about UNLOCK Code... is that the solution ?
Thanks a lot.
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operators in Brazil
use the phone lock code (sim card band)
That does not mean that it is stolen ...
to unlock the use of all bands sim card, needed a software that generates a code w / unlock permanent
some carriers do not release the software or request "note fiscal" ...
if enter the wrong code will often lock the phone permanently
sorry bad english
I am Brazilian
I'm learning ...
* (If you believe the phone was stolen, return and take your way back money!)
Hi guys.
I went through a lot of web sites past couple of months and now I've decided to ask you by myself. I got a present from my GF. Sam Gal S5.
She bought it on a craiglist. She tried it with her AT&T SIM card and it worked. Anyway.. she gave it to me. SIM card denied. I've paid $30 to get a code to unlocked.. Great. Buy what was my surprise. After I got in and made a couple of phone calls to providers I find out that the phone is blacklisted. I tried to get ATT sim card also but doesnt work.
So I started to look for an advice... Ive done root, changed ROM etc. But now... i dont know where else to look.
Obviously it was stolen. But I feel sorry for her and she for me...
Is that just a piece of garbage or is there ANY way to fix it?
I dont even know if im able to ask here.
Any advice or opinions helps.
Thank you
Mike
I think you're kinda screwed...Craigslists scams happen all the time..best bet if your gonna buy a phone on there is to both meet at the AT&T store and go through the whole transfer process.
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So ... there is no way to make it work?
Unhived__Mind said:
I think you're kinda screwed...Craigslists scams happen all the time..best bet if your gonna buy a phone on there is to both meet at the AT&T store and go through the whole transfer process.
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The official reply from carriers is that once a phone is blacklisted it is impossible to undo. Whether or not it's a limitation of the technology (one-way trip) or if it's just company policy, the output is the same. You and your girlfriend have learned an expensive lesson. You can use it as a wi-fi-only device or a media player, but once a phone is blacklisted it will never be able to connect to a cellular network again.
The reason the phone worked with your girlfriend's SIM card was because the real owner of the phone hadn't called to report the phone stolen yet.
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So ... there is no way to make it work?
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If you have proof of purchase and go to At&t whit it they maybe able to add to your account and unblock it.
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taytrlik said:
Hi guys.
I went through a lot of web sites past couple of months and now I've decided to ask you by myself. I got a present from my GF. Sam Gal S5.
She bought it on a craiglist. She tried it with her AT&T SIM card and it worked. Anyway.. she gave it to me. SIM card denied. I've paid $30 to get a code to unlocked.. Great. Buy what was my surprise. After I got in and made a couple of phone calls to providers I find out that the phone is blacklisted. I tried to get ATT sim card also but doesnt work.
So I started to look for an advice... Ive done root, changed ROM etc. But now... i dont know where else to look.
Obviously it was stolen. But I feel sorry for her and she for me...
Is that just a piece of garbage or is there ANY way to fix it?
I dont even know if im able to ask here.
Any advice or opinions helps.
Thank you
Mike
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Mike, your situation stinks so bad. I was in a similar spot with a T-Mobile HTC M8, which stopped working after I got it off craigslist and then subsequent IMEI checks shows that it is blocked/blacklisted from T-Mobile's network due to a balance owing from the original purchaser. However, since the phone was not reported stolen, the IMEI is not actually blacklisted/blocked from all carriers, but only T-Mobile. So I bought the SIM unlock code for a few bucks online so that I could unlock the phone for other carrier use. I have tested and verified that my phone works on AT&T, even though it is blocked on T-Mobile. So...you might consider changing your carrier or selling it to someone who can use it on another carrier (with full disclosure to that buyer, of course).
So i went to a unlocking store today and asked if i can do the cut trick to put a normal sim to a micro sim once unlocked but i showed them the obama phone and they said that those sims only work on the obama phones. Is that true? i would not think so, once you have the settings in there should be no problem right?
I did some research and it seems that most of the companies that provide "Obama phones" don't let you use their sim in another phone.
This page lists the policies of a lot of different providers.
I can't because of ethics or impossibility?
I don't know and can't guess with the very little information you provide. Why don't you ask your provider?
I have no provider that's why I want put this sim in my phone
Where did you get the Obama phone from? The service has to be provided by someone.
I applied for it about 2 years ago and I just keep it as a work phone. As for the carrier I'll take a look
It's trackfone carried by most likely at&t or possibly t-mobile.
If it's t-mobile that's my xperia z carrier. No need for unlock.
Tracfone is apparently SafeLink, that say their sim will only work in the phone they supply. This is probably controlled by only registered IMEIs being allowed to connect one of their sim cards to their network.
This is as much help as I can provide as I'm not from the US and don't have much knowledge regarding the cell providers there.
And i believe spoofing iemi is a bit "black magic"and shouldn't be done I believe.
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And i believe spoofing iemi is a bit "black magic"and shouldn't be done I believe.
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It's illegal and cannot be discussed on XDA. There's no way to do it on the Xperia Z in any case.
Gotcha, well that's that then. Thanks anyways