I wanted to throw this in the development forum as I feel it pertains to such but I didnt want to risk a ban
So MobileCrunch tells me that donut may not make it to the Dream. I feel it is safe to assume that the modders here would be able to make it fit, am I right?
chuckhriczko said:
I wanted to throw this in the development forum as I feel it pertains to such but I didnt want to risk a ban
So MobileCrunch tells me that donut may not make it to the Dream. I feel it is safe to assume that the modders here would be able to make it fit, am I right?
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officially no, by the time it is out the g1 will be obselete and you will probably have a new phone however if i comes out any time soon the devs here will work their magic and port it over.
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officially no, by the time it is out the g1 will be obselete and you will probably have a new phone however if i comes out any time soon the devs here will work their magic and port it over.
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this was proven to be a false statement.. donut will still come to the g1... confirmed on tmobile forums... im looking for the link now
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=AndroidDev&thread.id=8520
we already have some of donut so honestly this isn't a big deal unless you don't root your phone
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this was proven to be a false statement.. donut will still come to the g1... confirmed on tmobile forums... im looking for the link now
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=AndroidDev&thread.id=8520
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dosent say anyhing about dohnut here is what is there "We plan to continue working with Google to introduce future software updates to the T-Mobile G1. Reports to the contrary are inaccurate." im not saying there will be no updates but im not sure about dohnut according to this article they even had a hard time fitting cupcake on the g1 http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/the-g1-storage-problem-in-charts-and-numbers/. Although i see your point
The issue seems to be that Android OS is becoming bigger and bigger, and non-rooted G1s are limited by the amount of onboard memory they have. Since most of us here on xda run A2SD ROMs, we will have no problems with Donut stuff. Heck, cyanogen has a lot of Donut stuff already included in his ROMs.
If you don't root your G1, your phone will soon run out of space for the newer versions of the OS.
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The issue seems to be that Android OS is becoming bigger and bigger, and non-rooted G1s are limited by the amount of onboard memory they have. Since most of us here on xda run A2SD ROMs, we will have no problems with Donut stuff. Heck, cyanogen has a lot of Donut stuff already included in his ROMs.
If you don't root your G1, your phone will soon run out of space for the newer versions of the OS.
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yup, exactly
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yup, exactly
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Do you think its possible in the next release or update they would just force apps2sd to create the space they need and obviously create their own tools to maintain it.
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Do you think its possible in the next release or update they would just force apps2sd to create the space they need and obviously create their own tools to maintain it.
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That's something that I've defintally pondered myself. But I don't think they should force, they should give the option. Because some people may not want to buy another SD card..
Best way for it to be done is give you options to install the components you want, i dont use music on my phone i have an mp3 play so would happily swap that for some amazing feature, or simply optimize and release applications
i guess this is on topic since it concerns dream and donut. but to anyone not following cyanogen on twitter. he is pretty damn close to a functioning donut. the last donut he did didn't have any kind of data or signal access and he said that he got mobile data working which is a huge leap forward so maybe we will donut on the g1 soon enough.
just a thought... i wonder if someone could make a spl that got rid of all the unneeded space in cache that is supposed to be for ota updates that would brick the phone? that would be great but i don't see that happening
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Do you think its possible in the next release or update they would just force apps2sd to create the space they need and obviously create their own tools to maintain it.
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the problem is most people wouldnt be able to format to ext2 or 3 and if they remove their sdcard it could break their system (unless they alloww it on fat32)
which almost all other mobile operaing systems do so im sure they could.
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the problem is most people wouldnt be able to format to ext2 or 3 and if they remove their sdcard it could break their system (unless they alloww it on fat32)
which almost all other mobile operaing systems do so im sure they could.
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Yes good point.
My main thing was just that after reading some articles on the topic everything was so glum. Like saying there may not be many more updates. In which i think i would hesitate to buy another product from them if they offer that up as an excuse and quit supporting updates and just move on to the next/ better phone.
From what ive read it really seems like the options are 1. Quit Developing new stuff, or 2. Give root to everyone and move stuff over to the SD. (Maybe im wrong but i think they would need to give us root to move the stuff to the SD).
They could possibly do it by the size of the SD card for the normal user. If its one gig, maybe just apps. If its 8 then apps, cache, audio resources, etc. That would be accpetable IMO.
I need to read up up i have no idea what donut actually is, i have cyan 4.01 but never followed the updates so i have no idea what the features are, etc.
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Alright after reading that the G1 is basically outdated and old.. and won't really get any more updates.. (read it here http://home.leakdroid.com/2009/08/17/t-mobile-g1-wont-see-any-android-updates-beyond-1-5-faked/ )
I was wondering if it's worth me keeping it.. I mean I know it's a phone it'll get old eventually.. but it's happening to quick..
so my question is there a way to physically make more internal space? Hardware upgrade or something? Causing us to use upgraded roms in the future?
From what I understand....obviously you probably cant make hardware changes easily or effectively...but...
as for them "claiming" their will be no more updates for the G1...From what I understand as long as we have rooted G1s and apps2sd we should be able to run updates from other Android devices from ROMs here at XDA...
^ is that true? I mean, if we have a hard time getting a full Hero to work... I'm no Negative Nancy, I want it all, but it does seem the G1 is limited.
sell it buy and mytouch and then purchase the sense upgrade when it comes out.
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sell it buy and mytouch and then purchase the sense upgrade when it comes out.
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yea because that's what we want to do! My touch sucks!!!!!
Lol to each his own. I will have a hard time giving my baby up so easily. And u can't get the sense upgrade on the my touch as it is a google branded magic. Its hard for me to get excited about new android phones I dnt know why. Maybe I'm just hopelessly in love with my g1 lol
Through official channels I do not see updates past Cupcake coming. We might get a version of Donut but that would be the last. There likely will be some updates and security fixes but not a major release.
If Cyanogen keeps up his stellar work though I can not say that I particularly care. With apps2sd I think we can extend the life of the G1 for a while. I am still waiting for a better android handset with hardware keyboard before I abandon the G1.
True G1 has small amount of flash, but there aren't any other great alternative for Android fans either. Hero is a new approach on ui, but hardware is hardly an upgrade.
My g1 will keep on truckin until there is a major change in hardware being pushed out. Most likely until 3rd Q of 2010 until some snaps or tegra based phones come out to play. I hoping earlier tho.
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Through official channels I do not see updates past Cupcake coming. We might get a version of Donut but that would be the last. There likely will be some updates and security fixes but not a major release.
If Cyanogen keeps up his stellar work though I can not say that I particularly care. With apps2sd I think we can extend the life of the G1 for a while. I am still waiting for a better android handset with hardware keyboard before I abandon the G1.
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I agree its gonna be hard to live with out a keyboard. The moto androids have keyboards but its 3 rows I think so u know what that means ladies and gents tiny crowded keyboards
I also agree, Keeping the G1 untell another TM android phone comes out with a hard keyboard
I'm thinking about the g1 as well, so I thought I'd just post in here before making a new thread .
I am a bit late to the party i guess, also looking for a new (and first..) smartphone. This far the G1 looks most appealing - capacitive touchscreen, nice keyboard and Android.. Also the price is appealing, as I can get it for around 250euros in Germany. For comparison, an iphone 3gs 16gigs will cost me like 750euros (omfg), a touchpro2 around 530.. Hero is around 420, and no keyboard.. The G1 has seemingly everything i need at a low price.
However all these rumours and claims that the RAM is too little do make me think twice.. I'm rather new to the whole idea of android and flashing roms, but I do think the memory should be ok, as I dont really want 100 apps.. If I flash the latest Cyanogen rom, how much free flash memory will I have left?
The only things I do need on the phone is the browser, gmail, googlemaps (not a hard need tho) and some VNC client so that I can hopefully access my home PC over it.
Do I need to look into another phone, or will the g1 have enough memory (and speed) to make me happy? Are there any other qwerty android phones coming out soon (even tho I dont cherish the idea of a 500eur phone..)?
Soz for the lenghty post ;D
Take care!
/nick
Right now... G1 is the best deal out there. Depending on how long you're planning to keep your phone of course. If you want it for more then couple of years... wait to see what comes out... you'll want something with more ram (256+). If you plan on swapping phones in a year or so - get the G1, it has everything what other phones have out there, just less ram.
personaly, if i were to be jumping on board, id realy look hard at picking up a used G1 on ebay or some thing, prob pick it up about the same or less than a new contract phone. that way you can have what is currently the best, but not be locked into contract yet. then when the latest/greatest snapdragon powerd monster finaly hits, you can jump on it at a subsidised price.
currently, with the " danger" spl i have 89megs avail internal... but i run a2sd so i still have 100+ apps + with the latest recovery, i have 20+ roms on the sd, and a ton of themes etc...
the only thing that go's on internal memory now is just misc data.... a couple megs at most...
personaly, if i were to be jumping on board, id realy look hard at picking up a used G1 on ebay or some thing, prob pick it up about the same or less than a new contract phone. that way you can have what is currently the best, but not be locked into contract yet. then when the latest/greatest snapdragon powerd monster finaly hits, you can jump on it at a subsidised price.
currently, with the " danger" spl i have 89megs avail internal... but i run a2sd so i still have 100+ apps + with the latest recovery, i have 20+ roms on the sd, and a ton of themes etc...
the only thing that go's on internal memory now is just misc data.... a couple megs at most...
According to a thread on the tmobile forum and reference to cyan's tweet....G1 will be getting future updates...so dont give up tht easy...KEYBOARD FTW !!!!!
i have a STRONG GUT FEELEING that by oficial updates all we will see out of tmoble is security patches, and updates to oficial apps etc...
its tmobles way of trying to hush a volitile issue by vaguely stating that they will publish upgrades and continue to suport the phone. if they didnt they'd be looking at a million + upset customers, many of wich are recent subscribers to a soon to be out of date phone..
hell, dont they still sell the dash? it came out like 4 years ago, and was a base model " smart phone" they still " suport" it... security patches... lol..
so, my take...
major updates will require root, and updates from here!
might as well get on the danger spl bandwagon, give the developers a little more breathing room to add stuff, and who cares if they pull apps off the rom like amazon mp3 etc... kill the fluff that we can ad back on ourselves..
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hell, dont they still sell the dash? it came out like 4 years ago, and was a base model " smart phone" they still " suport" it... security patches... lol..
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good game
you win.
Danger SPL and More Internal Storage
First of all, G! FOREVER. I'l just keep letting Cyan and other stuff on more code. My question, though, is does the Danger SPL upgrade internal storage somehow? I just updated to the Danger SPL and noticed that I have more internal storage. Is this reading correct or is the Danger SPL causing an incorrect reading? I don't really care much because I use A2SD but I was just curious.
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First of all, G! FOREVER. I'l just keep letting Cyan and other stuff on more code. My question, though, is does the Danger SPL upgrade internal storage somehow? I just updated to the Danger SPL and noticed that I have more internal storage. Is this reading correct or is the Danger SPL causing an incorrect reading? I don't really care much because I use A2SD but I was just curious.
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thats correct the whole point of it is that is smaller to allow for Hero
To elaborate, the /cache partition is shrunk (since it is mostly unused outside OTA updates) and the extra shared between /data (internal storage, where your apps go) and /system (more space for the OS).
type df at terminal to see partition sizes.
Ok, so I was reading some articles and what not, and from what I'm thinking is that some of them have some truth, about the size limits of the G1, and how big the OS is getting.
So can someone who's a lot smarter than me (Meaning, most of you ) Please re-assure me, that even in the worst case we'd find a way to put it on a correctly formatted SD card?
Sorry if this was already brought up somewhere, I didn't see one, so I figured at the very least this could start a topic about it
Thanks!
Same thing was said about Donut and look at us now.
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Same thing was said about Donut and look at us now.
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QFT, I personally might be upgrading to a MT3G which I know is well over the size problem. But tmobile will force google into make a 2.0 rom for G1 users, according to Tmobile they still plan on continuing support through 2.0.. From what I heard apps2sd is going to be stock next rom so maybe they could take that extra space form the app storage and turn it into rom space!
of course this is still theoretically saying that only non protected apps will be on SD and protected ones will be on like a 20mb partition or some thing.
I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs as this is really my first time around, however, I was really impressed by the themes and how clean the interface looked.
I am currently on WM 6.1 and contemplating updating to 6.5+ or to Android. Some problems about 6.1 that I really didn't like were: the SMALL keyboard, bland looking threaded txt msgs, inability to play youtube (among other video/audio files) out the box.
I'd love to give Android a go, but wouldn't know where to start (must have apps/games, familiarity with OS, etc).
Any suggestions and help would be awesome.
Thanks!
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I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs as this is really my first time around, however, I was really impressed by the themes and how clean the interface looked.
I am currently on WM 6.1 and contemplating updating to 6.5+ or to Android. Some problems about 6.1 that I really didn't like were: the SMALL keyboard, bland looking threaded txt msgs, inability to play youtube (among other video/audio files) out the box.
I'd love to give Android a go, but wouldn't know where to start (must have apps/games, familiarity with OS, etc).
Any suggestions and help would be awesome.
Thanks!
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Go with an SD card build mate, you can test android out while leaving windows mobile untouched!, plenty of FAQ's and stuff on this forum to sort you out
Just install Android on Nand. It takes 10 minutes to flash back to winmo if you don't like it.
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Just install Android on Nand. It takes 10 minutes to flash back to winmo if you don't like it.
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Run haret off the SD card first, all it takes to go back to winmo is a simple reboot
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I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs
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Who recommended you not "stray" to android roms? They must be crazy..... Honestly, from your dislikes of winmo, you will LOVE android, trust me. It has gotten to the point where it seems almost native to the device. I would look up tatnai's FAQ and try the sdcard/haret method just to get a good feel so you're not committed to a full flash. But I guarantee you'll be wanting to go to a full flash within no time.
See this thread for instructions, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628353
If you just want to try Android out, run it off of your SD card. Once you're ready to permanently move to Android, then you can install it to NAND. Keep in mind it's a bit laggier off of the SD card and the battery performance is worse.
Does Android support Divx, Xvid, quicktime, AVIs, and various other types of video/audio?
Well, it can play youtube videos. Divx and avi (not too sure about).
Personally, this is why i switched to android:
Apps! Apps! Apps!
Widgets and icons
Fast and fluid interface
Its modern and up to date
Vogue Community seems to be shifting android (personal gut feeling)
Not having to worry about customizing my phone as much as i did with windows mobile.
Subtle android features that windows mobile on vogue doesnt have (i.e. animation when you open and close apps, slide down notification curton, web based apps )
Android is Perfect for My everyday use
What i miss from Windows Mobile:
My Garmin GPS
Taking Higher resolution/ better quality pictures.
I may be missing things... someone who is android biased help me out!
One more reason to love android "Sense UI"
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wow... sense is epic... sucks i just flashed to 6.5 too.
i kno winmo has a lot of apps too just gotta find some nice ones to install now on b-rom's release (mighty fine release too).
gps doesnt work on android yet?
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wow... sense is epic... sucks i just flashed to 6.5 too.
i kno winmo has a lot of apps too just gotta find some nice ones to install now on b-rom's release (mighty fine release too).
gps doesnt work on android yet?
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gps works great on android, it actually gets a better fix on android then on winmo
I recently switched to Android on my vogue and love it! Sd card install just to make sure you like it, then nand.
i have been experimenting with droid since i got my Vogue a year ago with haret. the beauty of droid is its smooth and clean, and its not M$. there are pros and cons to both... first ill suggest get off 6.1- there is no hope for that build. there are plenty of builds either here or on ppcgeeks.com you can pick and choose what you want to or not to have. now you can also flash android NAND here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
i prefer android hero builds as i feel they are just 'cooler' but i ran into an issue with the last build i used and have been experimenting with some of the other builds out there. currently using MYN's warm donut located
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
there are some pretty cool themes there as well.
from the skeptics and paranoid perspective, i read and read for months until i flashed my first rom. dont do anything til you are ready. there are plenty of smart folks here to help you.
read read read, subscribe, and ask questions when you need to.
also remember, the search tab is your friend, i can almost guarantee, if you have a problem (android or otherwise) someone has morethan likely had it. there are a couple where there are new threads needed.
i cant express enough, there are alot of good folks here to help if you need it. they made a believer out of me!!
do your research, and move at your own comfort level.
best of luck
YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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Just use haret, it's not rocket science, or even hard.
MarkkInNj said:
YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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i thought everything was pretty confusing at first too. its actually all pretty simple. everything works on 1.6 except camcorder/mms(sending works on verizon and receiving works on sprint)/wifi. i was scared to death when i flashed android to my phone but its as easy as 123. just try android from your sdcard first and if you like it(which you will) then you can do some research on how to flash it.
Can I use a 4GB card to try Android from SD on a Bell Vogue (XV6900?) or do I require a 2GB micro sd card?
Also, if I decide to actually flash the phone, do I need to unlock it first, then install Android to NAND?
I have been doing so much reading, I am getting confused...easy to confuse an old guy!
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Can I use a 4GB card to try Android from SD on a Bell Vogue (XV6900?) or do I require a 2GB micro sd card?
Also, if I decide to actually flash the phone, do I need to unlock it first, then install Android to NAND?
I have been doing so much reading, I am getting confused...easy to confuse an old guy!
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you can install android with any sd card, but you can only flash a rom from sd card with a 2gb size and lower.
if you do just a haret run then you don't need to unlock, however when you install to NAND you do have to unlock it inorder to flash a rom
Made the jump from SD to NAND today and have to say its running faster and better than ever. Its worth the jump.
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i thought everything was pretty confusing at first too. its actually all pretty simple. everything works on 1.6 except camcorder/mms(sending works on verizon and receiving works on sprint)/wifi. i was scared to death when i flashed android to my phone but its as easy as 123. just try android from your sdcard first and if you like it(which you will) then you can do some research on how to flash it.
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Hmm.. maybe thats why i cant recieve a text on my sd lol i have verizon. But people can get them but it gives me an error message. But i need texting..
Hmmm..
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
The Hero is still a worthy phone.
thanks for the advice..
an explanation as to why would be nice
and an answer to my other inquiries as well if possible..
i do love my hero but if i had an upgrade right now i wouldnt go to a "last gen" phone
evo is a step up from the hero in every spec and is 4G!!!!!
the samsung galaxy will be very comparable to the evo but seems a little faster on the processing side
most of these roms are 2.1 which is complete exept for a couple bugs here and there. The roms that are dev'ing are the 2.2 roms which needs to be made from the ground up.
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I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
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sweet good for you!
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
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we do have a ton of roms...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
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the custom roms are faster/better than the sprint rom.
the camera works in all the roms as far as i know? there was a time when the camera didn't work because HTC were being Dbags and withholding the kernel source, but toast solved that problem. the only rom atm without camera AFAIK is the froyo dev build.
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
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once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
Thanks..
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welcome.
Sputnikk23 said:
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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question 1. besides apps2sd the main reason for booting roms is looks and customization in my oppinion. you can change around the keyboard the lock screen the menu options even remove the terrible bloatware included on the phone. plus an upside is speed - remove the files eating all your battery life and take that battery life and put it to overclocking the cpu.
as for the camera i don't know what you are talking about. almost every rom i've installed has the camera working correctly. sometimes a file is removed to make the phone run faster and the camera doesn't work but most of the times the camera is fixed pretty fast.
question 2. rooting your phone gives you access to files on your phone otherwise not able to delete. i.e. bloatware. by rooting your phone you can remove these files or adjust them how you want. now the ROM is a customization of android x.x that you flash to your hero that otherpeople have customized themselves. like removing the bloatware for you or using a custom kernel to make your phone run faster. or just changing around the entire look of android.
The Hero is a fantastic phone and can do many things. i would say upgrade and don't look back. but if you want a snapdragon CPU get the Evo. which is also an awesome phone. (but quite a bit more expensive)
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
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totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?
I see someone else posted about the camera..
Every single current rom we have, has a working camera. Aside from froyo 2.2, that hasnt been publicly released yet (it will soon though).
And rom currently up-to-date within the past month, should have everything working. You might run in to a few bugs, but most are user errors or can be simply fixed.
The hero is still a great phone with many months left in it. The Evo though is still the #1 choice, and i would get one if i could.
And person above me.. No you are not crazy. Should be in general section or Q & A
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
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vetvito said:
The Hero is still a worthy phone.
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both of these statements are completely true.
the Hero is actually quite awesome, lots of potential in it still, and my guess is the 2.2 will run on it just swimmingly.
that being said... if you can get one cheap, do it! But frankly, if you have upgrade credit coming to you, use it on a newer gen phone... or I would anyway. sadly, there will be less ROMs/mods/community/whathaveyou for it, balanced by a sense of adventure exploring new territory with other ROMflash addicts and ROMcookers!
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totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?
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ya know what? your right!
Hero's a great phone.
Unbeatable combination of style, size, power, and functionality.
EVO's only better if you have no aesthetic considerations to ahm... consider.
thedudejdog said:
sweet good for you!
once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
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still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.
Sputnikk23 said:
still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.
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that guide is old.
THIS ONE
will work for 2.1 which is what the hero has now.
you can google JIT. google google google. all the questions have been answered at some point or another, its better to read someone's post than make a new post about the same thing thousands of other people have already asked about.
Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.
I'm not saying the Hero isn't a good phone.. I'm saying if you have an upgrade, get the Evo or you'll be upset later. The phone is so much faster... 4g.. double cameras..big screen...
Bad better life, and it's a brick. I wouldn't use an upgrade on an old gen phone.
I just become a Sprint Preferred or whatever.. by having a plan over $70 and paying on time for 6 months.. I get my free upgrade in February. I definitely won't even consider the Evo.. I'll be looking at the next big thing.
Sputnikk23 said:
Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.
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there are 7 screens you can put apps and widgets on. 1 home then 3 to the left and right.
Remember the movie Mad Max? Or was it the Road Warrior? It doesn't matter. The quote is still valid.
Speed is a question of money. How fast can you afford to go?
If you can afford it, get the Evo. If you want a cheaper, yet still awe phone, get the Hero. Then use your savings for a bigger SDHC card and Bluetooth headphones and other coolness.
I agree that the phone has a lot left in it, but a lot of devs from several phones have jumped shipped to the Evo. I'm sticking with my Hero for another year atleast, unless a real good deal comes up.
If you want to save money I would get ther Hero as it it a lot cheaper than the Evo and you will also save the $10 extra a month. That and the Evo is too damn big. To me it was uncomfortable to hold and use with one hand.
Not only can you flash /install new roms, but with a little research you can mod the rom your self and theme it how you want. Also wireless tether is awesome and the Overclocking and Undervolting is making the phone better and faster.
Ok so I spent a few days trolling.
Looks like I'm going to have to flash the old RUU since I did the 2.1 update, then follow guide, then the custom ROM.
Question though, I'm stuck on picking one: Some are very nicely featured but I don't like the default look on any of them or the themes available in a 2nd/3rd post of the ROMs thread; generically speaking, is any themes compatible with any ROM? For instance, the Cyanogen mods you can Google to dark corners of the internet...
Hi, I have a old G1 that's just gathering dust.
Its been rooted and running one of the Super D ROMS. (Haven't used it since I got a Desire)
Basically I've gotten fed up trying play SNES ROMS etc on a touch screen phone and remember how much easier it was on the G1 keyboard.
As its only going to be used for running games from the SD card.
Can anyone recommended or create a minimalistic ROM for this purpose.
Also, would I need to have a Sim card in the phone?
no need for a sim card, but you may wont the ram hack (2708+) i would imagine that might be better. you would want a basic rom maybe even a cupcake (not sure why but this sounds right) find the best kernel to flash over it, check ezterry's kernel thread. then use titanium backup or something similar to take out just about everything you can that could possibly run so that it wont interfere with your gaming. truthfully a lot of newer roms may work well for you as long as you just remove a lot of things that arent need to play your games - hopefully someone will come on here and steer you a bit closer.
check out this link for an idea of what you can remove from a rom and be safe
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
also depending on the rom maybe do one that asks to install gapps separate and dont do it...
No, cupcake doesn't have a 2708+ kernel for it...
Well...it does sorta...but it barely works and doesn't do much IIRC
Try froyobylaszlo
you'll need the 2708+ radio and spl
Use my mod of it, Frayo, and you can customize what system apps it flashes
So just put 0 for all of them in the install.txt (you'll know what im talking about when you find the rom)
Once you have the 2708+ radio/spl just flash frayo and that's it! gapps included.
And no it's not just cuz its my mod xD...froyobylaszlo is crazy fast, and once you remove system apps its even faster, and frayo can help you not install them in the first place
good call and the frayo, that would make it easier
im not sure why i feel cupcake would be better, no idea why but it sounds good
if you flash the right kernel over a cupcake rom it should work with the 2708+
but probably would get more speed in frayo with bare system apps, and you can take out a few more too
Cheers for the advice.
Its been a long time since I read about G1 updates so I've got some catching up to do.
Is there a walk through for this ram hack?
Last thing I did to my G1 was install Super D a long time ago.
ianthenut said:
Cheers for the advice.
Its been a long time since I read about G1 updates so I've got some catching up to do.
Is there a walk through for this ram hack?
Last thing I did to my G1 was install Super D a long time ago.
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Not really
There's a guide, but you gotta be familiar with fastboot to use it
Or you can find a topic called "upgrading to gingerbread" by gunner*numbers*
We walked him through it
You'll have to dig through the topic to find it though
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ianthenut said:
Hi, I have a old G1 that's just gathering dust.
Its been rooted and running one of the Super D ROMS. (Haven't used it since I got a Desire)
Basically I've gotten fed up trying play SNES ROMS etc on a touch screen phone and remember how much easier it was on the G1 keyboard.
As its only going to be used for running games from the SD card.
Can anyone recommended or create a minimalistic ROM for this purpose.
Also, would I need to have a Sim card in the phone?
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Hey! Check out my Dreamboy thread in General. I was thinking of making a rom just for that purpose
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