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Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
can anyone help?
How exactly would it be "free" internet? You are still going to need a data connection to access the proxy server.
it would be free because I would not be paying internet charges through my cellular provider using their wap server to access the internet, rather I would bundle the cost into my already home internet charges if I set up a home proxy and pointed my phone there.
It still would register as me making a call, but it would not register as me using the internet, hence 'free' internet.
Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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if you redirect your proxy outside of AT&Ts MediaNET you will not get charged
OK, apparently you didn't read anything I typed. Let's look at it another way.
I have a Tilt. I can enable or disable AT&T's proxy server. Does it really matter? NO. Why? Because in both cases data is being transmitted over EDGE or HSDPA. It's bits and bytes traveling over the airwaves. Whether you are directly connected to the internet, using AT&T's proxy or your own proxy, it's all 1's and 0's to them. If they see those 1's and 0's being transmitted from your phone to the internet, you are getting charged for it.
If it was that easy to bypass AT&T's data plan, wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it? I know I would.
Prove me wrong.
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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Good explanation
You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges. There used to be a great program over at MoDaCo called NoData which when you ran it showed you the connections you had and let you disable the ones you wanted to have off. Then you could use Wifi without starting a GPRS connection. The program still exists, do a search for it hear or google it at MoDaCo. Only thing, I seem to recall that the creator of the program said it was only for WM5. I've seen people say that it works in WM6 but haven't tried it myself.
Short of that you could just go into DataComm and tap on the Data connection icon, to turn if off as you tap WLan to turn it on. Of course that will disable your data connection and push e-mail and you'll have to remember to start it up again afterwards if you want to get your push e-mail.
jspetrino said:
Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
I had a similar question, which got no replies....
T-mobile puts you through it's proxies, so that pictures etc are compressed, which is a bit pants. That's one reason why you might want to do as described in the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345029
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You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges.
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This simply isn't true. If you enable WiFi and you're passing traffic through GPRS, then you don't have your WiFi network configured correctly.
Go to Settings-Connections-WiFi and change the pull down for your adapter from "Work" to "The Internet. Associate with AP. Surf to your heart's content without using the cellular network.
You can shut off the phone connection if you like, but there's no need to do so.
Edit: Just for giggles, I fired up my WiFi configured as above and grabbed a 3MB file directly on the phone. GPRS Monitor recorded zero traffic increase.
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
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yes I used to be Verizon never go back to them again! I used to use a quick fix on one of my LG phones redirecting to a proxy and i got free internet that way.
Dears,
I just finished to setup my laptop to be an AccessPoint for my nexus.
I did this creating a new ad-hoc wireless connection.
It works! ...for browsing websites
does not work for market or app web connection...
I configured proxy settings to enable websites browsing.
If I try change proxy settings on my phone, obviously websites browsing stops.
Note I'm inside an office network now and I cannot change or control about network setups.
any idea why android market does not work with my setup?
does market need some "special ports" opened?
help me please....
Just download connectify. It's a program that makes your computer a WiFi hotspot. I use it to get internet on my x 10, and it works flawlessly
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eh......
I already tried... bit my network card is not supported by connectify...
The same with VirtualRouter.
The only way I has some success is as described before (ad-hoc network).
Please help me with that market issue...
Could it be that it's blocked by your company? Like can you go to youtube on your pc?
Like i understand you are using proxy to connect the net so http is allowd and all the others are closed.
correct: proxy is only working for http access.
I have troubles also with google sync, gmail, youtube, market etc...
I'm only able to surf the web via browser.
Note that wih my notebook I have access to all youtube... so cannot understand why it works whit notebook but does not work with nexusOne...
maybe notebook and nexus use different protocols or services that are closed by the proxy.
Any idea to make my ad-hoc network fully open?
I'm having trouble getting connectify to work... it loads up and runs fine on my Win7 x64 laptop, but when I try to connect with the N1 it appears to be eternally stuck at the "Obtaining IP Address" stage before it finally times out and the network state is reported as "Unsuccessful". I've tried both pulling the IP from DHCP and manually specifying a static IP address on the correct network, and I have attempted running both Android 2.1 and 2.2.
Even when specifying a static IP, I still get the "Obtaining address..." status before it fails out.
Any thoughts?
for me too: both with ad-hoc connection, Connectify (@home) or VirtualRouter (@home) I have same issue than you.
Sometimes n1 connects the wireless network with no problems, other times it dont connect the network... Dont know the reason. Only I saw that if you delete the ad-hoc network and create a new one it works... It's boring, I know... but works..
also I saw that @home connecting in same mode than in office I was able to navigate market, youtube and all other programs that need an internet connection .
This to confirm that the problem I'm having @office is caused by some LAN restrictions (filters, firewalls and something like this)
Cool, I'll give that a go when I get off work I suppose. I've only got about another week or so here in Afghanistan, but while I'm here the only accessible internet is a wifi access point that passes through a fairly restrictive firewall/proxy before hitting the satellite internet. I'm able to bypass the firewall and proxy if I use an ethernet connection on my laptop (luck of the draw: my room in the tent is the one with all the networking gear ), and was hoping I could use this Connectify or VirtualRouter business to then extend that internet offering to my N1. So far, no luck. Maybe I'll fight with it some more tonight and get somewhere with it.
Off-topic: How's Padova this time of year? I spent about three months up in Aviano back at the end of last summer and fall... absolutely gorgeous country.
Maybe is useful for you to knwo ho I'm able to surf web using browser on my N1 (using win7).
3 modes:
- ad-hoc network (pc-to-n1) directly from network control center of win7
- connectify (using a virtual access point)
- virtual router (same as connectify)
@ home: LAN without filters or restrictions. I'm able to surf web, use youtube player, market etc.
@ work: LAN with filters and restrictions. I'm able to surf web only.
These are my tests. I hope you will have more luck than me.
OT: Padova is great in this period. Weather is hot (25-28°), summer is starting. Unfortunatly in these days we have some rain but our "sunny season" is already started.
I know Aviano, there's a US militay base. Are you a soldier? I'm a fan of the "soldiers world" (I played for a long time a free online game called "America's Army" )
Sorry for OT
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Maybe is useful for you to knwo ho I'm able to surf web using browser on my N1 (using win7).
3 modes:
- ad-hoc network (pc-to-n1) directly from network control center of win7
- connectify (using a virtual access point)
- virtual router (same as connectify)
@ home: LAN without filters or restrictions. I'm able to surf web, use youtube player, market etc.
@ work: LAN with filters and restrictions. I'm able to surf web only.
These are my tests. I hope you will have more luck than me.
OT: Padova is great in this period. Weather is hot (25-28°), summer is starting. Unfortunatly in these days we have some rain but our "sunny season" is already started.
I know Aviano, there's a US militay base. Are you a soldier? I'm a fan of the "soldiers world" (I played for a long time a free online game called "America's Army" )
Sorry for OT
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Thanks for the info
And no, I'm not a soldier, but I work as a civilian geek/technician/engineer for a US defense contractor that builds air/battlespace control systems - like a glorified Air Traffic Control. I get sent for a few months at a time to different locations that we have our systems to support the soldiers and airmen who use them.
Needless to say, Aviano has been the best assignment yet
_PeTiT_ said:
Maybe is useful for you to knwo ho I'm able to surf web using browser on my N1 (using win7).
3 modes:
- ad-hoc network (pc-to-n1) directly from network control center of win7
- connectify (using a virtual access point)
- virtual router (same as connectify)
@ home: LAN without filters or restrictions. I'm able to surf web, use youtube player, market etc.
@ work: LAN with filters and restrictions. I'm able to surf web only.
These are my tests. I hope you will have more luck than me.
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If you can use everything @home this isn't a fault of your setup. everything gets blocked by the proxy server. if you really want it you have to talk with the administrator, i really doubt that he will do changes to please you.
for now i think it's impossible to use them.
ok... thanks for the bad news...
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I'm having trouble getting connectify to work... it loads up and runs fine on my Win7 x64 laptop, but when I try to connect with the N1 it appears to be eternally stuck at the "Obtaining IP Address" stage before it finally times out and the network state is reported as "Unsuccessful". I've tried both pulling the IP from DHCP and manually specifying a static IP address on the correct network, and I have attempted running both Android 2.1 and 2.2.
Even when specifying a static IP, I still get the "Obtaining address..." status before it fails out.
Any thoughts?
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I have the same problem (ok, with a Desire). No IP obtained. OS is Win7/64 too.
Did you have any success in the meantime?
I think the market actually uses https:// ... is that set up as well? Even if it is, the phone might reject it because of redirecting certificate issues...
You're probably better off setting up a VPN on your home machine, or some server outside the network. Then VPN to that on your phone for open access (Of course u can buy vpn accounts from various companies too.)
What kind of proxy is it? Socks? http? remember most don't support UDP, and may only support port http or https.
How do you get N1 to see ad-hoc wifi? I tried but wasn't able to using stock froyo...
Heeeeeeeeeelp please!!!
i have installed connectify and the virtual router on my win7 laptop.
i can connect to the new wireless networks created by these softwares but I can't browse the web (no data is received in my Nexus one)
can you please help me?
I have stock froyo FRF91 on my Nexus one
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Hi All,
I've had my SGS since September of 2010. When tethering using mobile AP I get frequent "disconnects" on any PC/Laptop I use where for a time I'm unable to do anything over HTTP or HTTPS, but other protocols seem fine. The real kicker is that the connection doesn't actually drop.
Let's say I have two PCs connected one is just a regular wifi tether surfing the net, checking email, etc. The other PC has a VPN tunnel which handles all internet traffic through it. The non-VPN PC will start having problems with websites ("Page cannot be displayed", "Connection refused", etc.) while the other (through the VPN tunnel) can keep going 100%.
I can be surfing along, lose connection, start up my VPN tunnel back to my office (even when I have no "web" access), and then everything will work 100% for hours on end. I've kept this VPN tunnel connected for the whole trip from Swift Current to Saskatoon and never had a drop except in one or two low spots. However, without the VPN tunnel I would have web issues every 15 - 20 minutes and they last for 30 seconds to 1 minute.
I called Sasktel twice on this now and the first time they admitted to having problems with some websites (mls.ca, flikr.com) where portions of the pages don't load correctly. The second time I called in and they denied having (or ever having) any issues.
Anyone else having similar issues? I think Sasktel (not sure about Bell) is playing with HTTP and HTTPS traffic. Whatever they're doing it getting in the way of normal communications..
Thanks!!
Riley
I got my parents a Chromecast for xmas after getting one myself and being impressed with how simple it was to set up and use with Youtube, Plex, etc. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get it up and running with their BT Home Hub 4 router and keep getting an "unable to connect to internet message". I've seen various posts on other forums mentioning the following as possible solutions, none of which worked in my case:
disable UPNP (also disable UPNP extended security)
disable "Smart" setup
disable parental restrictions (already done)
split the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands into 2 separate SSIDs and only connect to the 2.4GHz one
I'm no expert on routers and networking so would be grateful if anyone else who's with BT in the UK has had similar issues and managed to find a solution they could share. I'd also like to move away from my current ISP whose recent service has been a joke and out of the few providers who offer high speed fibre in my area BT seem like the best of the bunch although not being able to use my Chromecast would be a real pain.
Any advice would be much appreciated!
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I got my parents a Chromecast for xmas after getting one myself and being impressed with how simple it was to set up and use with Youtube, Plex, etc. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get it up and running with their BT Home Hub 4 router and keep getting an "unable to connect to internet message".
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What firmware build is that Chromecast on? The "Unable to connect to Internet" message means it's successfully connected to WiFi, and at least for me, earlier firmware builds kept showing that. I left it alone for a few days, then power-cycled it and it had managed to download an update (build 13300) that fixed things.
If you haven't already tried power-cycling Chromecast, try that - it might have connected long enough to get an update.
Hey all,
I was wondering if there was any tether bypass method for Windows Phone users on T-Mobile so that tethering won't count towards your hotspot usage. Preferably one that works with 8.1.
TetherX is an app that runs a proxy server on your phone, which is a pretty good way to handle web browsing, email, and other proxy-aware things while still having the phone show all the traffic as coming from itself, not from another machine. There's also wired tethering, which on my ATIV S is possible (though device-specific hacks, sadly) and does not show up as tethered data... but my ATIV S can't use the normal Internet Sharing feature anyhow (it always says there's no data connection to share, which is a blatant lie but I've talked to MS, TMo, Samsung, and even the original carrier Telus and none of them know how to fix it).
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TetherX is an app that runs a proxy server on your phone, which is a pretty good way to handle web browsing, email, and other proxy-aware things while still having the phone show all the traffic as coming from itself, not from another machine. There's also wired tethering, which on my ATIV S is possible (though device-specific hacks, sadly) and does not show up as tethered data... but my ATIV S can't use the normal Internet Sharing feature anyhow (it always says there's no data connection to share, which is a blatant lie but I've talked to MS, TMo, Samsung, and even the original carrier Telus and none of them know how to fix it).
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The problem with Tether X is that I think you can only use a browser with the connection. For example, how would I get it to work with the Netflix app on Windows 8, or connect my game console to it? I'm not sure wired tethering works with my device (Lumia 925). And even then, I run into the same problem of not being able to connect more devices.
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So oddly enough it seems I can go past the tethering limit but only for certain tasks. I can browse the web for the most part and even stream youtube video, using the Fiddler trick posted on XDA. But anything requiring https is a no-go. Can't check email, login to certain websites, etc. PSN doesn't work either. This is quite frustrating, ugh. Not sure why https traffic is being blocked.......
TetherX, as I said, should work on anything that is proxy-aware. In practice, that's a surprisingly broad range of software: email and IM clients will generally either respect the system proxy settings or have their own, most well-written third-party software that is targeted at Windows specifically will try to use the system proxy, and there are a non-zero number of games which are also proxy-aware (it is a sad fact of the universe that, in so far as polished quality is concerned, virtually no games are "well-written" but a few of them do just rely on the Windows network connections without trying to get fancy).
Now, with all that said, there's a "should" at the start, there. I don't personally use TetherX. It's possible that it only handles HTTP and HTTPS, or some similarly stupid limitations. It *SHOULD* be implemented as a SOCKS proxy, but it might just be a stupid HTTP proxy ("stupid" here meaning that all it does is forward HTTP requests at the application layer, and is not aware of any other form of TCP traffic). HTTP proxies are arguably easier to write, but SOCKS isn't *terribly* complex and it is by far the superior choice for the purpose.
As an addendum: Whether or not TetherX works, you might want to try Bluetooth Proxy. It is free and uses SOCKS. It's a little complex to set up - BT can be used for a network connection but most people never do, so it's a bit confusing - but it should work if TetherX isn't working, and it doesn't cost anything!
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TetherX, as I said, should work on anything that is proxy-aware. In practice, that's a surprisingly broad range of software: email and IM clients will generally either respect the system proxy settings or have their own, most well-written third-party software that is targeted at Windows specifically will try to use the system proxy, and there are a non-zero number of games which are also proxy-aware (it is a sad fact of the universe that, in so far as polished quality is concerned, virtually no games are "well-written" but a few of them do just rely on the Windows network connections without trying to get fancy).
Now, with all that said, there's a "should" at the start, there. I don't personally use TetherX. It's possible that it only handles HTTP and HTTPS, or some similarly stupid limitations. It *SHOULD* be implemented as a SOCKS proxy, but it might just be a stupid HTTP proxy ("stupid" here meaning that all it does is forward HTTP requests at the application layer, and is not aware of any other form of TCP traffic). HTTP proxies are arguably easier to write, but SOCKS isn't *terribly* complex and it is by far the superior choice for the purpose.
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You are correct, I was able to use Tether-X to hook up my computer and my PS3. There are some caveats here that make it pretty cumbersome however:
1) Speeds seem slow
2) Latency was very high (700+ ping to closest ST server, unsuitable for multiplayer gaming)
3) Different proxy server address every time you start the app (That means retyping proxy server address every single time I want to hook up my devices to it)
Slow speeds may been because of the network, but the super high latency is perplexing. Direct internet sharing I get around ~100 ms ping, but on Tether X it increases it significantly. Any idea what that's all about?
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As an addendum: Whether or not TetherX works, you might want to try Bluetooth Proxy. It is free and uses SOCKS. It's a little complex to set up - BT can be used for a network connection but most people never do, so it's a bit confusing - but it should work if TetherX isn't working, and it doesn't cost anything!
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Is this limited by the speed of the Bluetooth protocol? And can you connect additional devices using this method?
Ok, so I figured out what was causing the high latency with Tether-X. Unfortunately PSN is still blocked when proxying through Tether X. It's able to access the internet through the PS3, but not PSN. What I did was connect to the adhoc network on my computer, and the supply the Tether X proxy and port when setting up the network (is there anything else I should be doing?). I keep getting weird DNS errors.
So close, yet so far....
Yes, Bluetooth networking is limited to the speed of BT (which is actually decent, though not amazing). No knowledge of connecting multiple devices, but it may be possible directly, and if not you could connect the others to a PC's WiFi and use Internet Connection Sharing with the BT interface as the uplink.
I would *expect* DNS to get proxied correctly, but I know little about how either TetherX or the PS3 work. Sorry. Short of suggesting something like manually configuring a DNS server (Google runs a few, for example), I don't know what to suggest.
Well, aside from getting a real Internet connection. They don't cost *that* much, don't come with usage limits in most cases, and are generally both more stable and lower latency than phone connections (these being two of the main needs for gaming).
maybe a stupid q , but on settings you have the button internet sharing , is that still on your phone ?
or is it greyed out ?
maybe flash another rom ? (not a bloated one from T-Mobile)
T-Mobile US provides a limited amount of free tethering with their service, but it sounds like the OP is trying to get past that "limited" part (overall data service is unlimited). The official Internet Sharing feature uses your (limited) tethering allowance.
On Android there seems to be many ways to get around this, but not on Windows Phone . Tether-X almost works, but I can't get devices like game consoles to connect.