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Windows 7 Pre-Beta on the Shift?

Windows 7 Pre-Beta on EEE PC 1000H
Reading the above linked article, it seems to me that if all the Vista drivers for the Shift work with Windows 7, it might be the ideal replacement for Vista on the Shift.
The article mentions that on the EEE less than half the available RAM is consumed by the OS, which would be a massive improvement on Vista.
I was wondering if anyone here had access to the pre-Beta and was prepared to take the plunge and install it on their Shift. I'm sure I'll get a copy sooner or later via my Technet subscription, but since this is a pre-Beta, I'll probably have to wait for the first fully fledged beta copy.
Regards,
Dave

I was thinking exactly the same ...
I was thinking exactly the same ... and had even asked about it to Rob from Gottabemobile.com but i am still looking forward to someone actually trying it out ...
Folloing is my interaction with Rob in comments on Gottabemobile.com ( http://www.gottabemobile.com/2008/10/28/windows-7-tablet-pc-screen-shots/ )
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Dr. Angel Rajan Singh | Oct 29, 2008 | Reply
Hi Rob, if i am not wrong, you guys have an HTC shift. I’ll be grateful if someone could shed some shed light on whether HTC shift would support Windows 7 and will there be speed improvements by using Windows 7 on it instead of Vista?
It’s important for me to know at this stage because i need to decide whether to persist with HTC shift for long or not. I hate to part with the Shift as upto date it’s the best device with features which no other device has been able to replace till now … though their implementation is a bit floppy and Vista is a real resourse hog so far forcing me turn off aero all together and opt for basic ME, 97 like theme to make it work fine!
Sorry for the trouble but ur reply will be really helpful in giving the Shift a bright future!
Thanks in advance!
Rob | Oct 29, 2008 | Reply
We reviewed the HTC Shift last year, but do not have one. During the keynote yesterday, Sinofsky demoed Windows 7 running on a netbook, so it looks promising. "

You can find the Alpha versions of windows 7 in heaps of torrent site's

Windows 7 on shift
I'm downloading Windows 7 build 6801 now and will try to install it tonight.
Will post back later to let you know if the drivers work and the performance is better. I read an article somewhere on microsoft.com stating that in most cases Vista drivers will also work on windows 7. However, this was not the case on my desktop computer. The article also stated that windows 7 requires less ram than vista and will therefore run better on systems with only 1gb ram.

will look forward to your results eagerly ...
hi thanks for ur efforts ... i will eagerly look forward to ur results ...

and.... is it works? ;-)

i just tried to install it, but i get an error message, complaining about a missing install.wim.
i dont think thats supposed to be...so i have to keep at it and see what causes this. (make sure you burn the ISO using NERO.)
Ok, after a second try, Windows 7 is finally on my SHIFT.

wow, looks great. how is 7 running on the shift comparing with vista.
any more good news with 7 over vista? like, screen rotation? lol
once you played around with it a but more, let us know more about it! i'm sure we're all waiting to see if there are any good surprises.

wow .. plz post ur experience with windows 7 on shift
aquasesh said:
i just tried to install it, but i get an error message, complaining about a missing install.wim.
i dont think thats supposed to be...so i have to keep at it and see what causes this. (make sure you burn the ISO using NERO.)
Ok, after a second try, Windows 7 is finally on my SHIFT.
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Hi plz post your experience regarding how responsive is shift after installing windows 7 ...
I can see from screen shots that approx 500mb memory is free and that looks good ...
Any change is startup time? do u feel windows 7 less taxing than vista as far as windows graphics load is concerned?
And did all the existing drivers & programs work?
Sorry for the long list ... but i am too excited at the proposition of Shift actually turning out to be a faster device with windows 7

UPDATE: Windows 7 runs really well...even for a Pre BETA...i havent tested the stability much yet, but I can safely say, its much better than
Vista.
Even beats my Ubuntu in speed.
However, there are some small problems I have to fix first.
If you want to install Win 7, make sure to enable all devices (WIFI, BT) in your existing Vista first. Otherwise you might have some trouble enabling them until we figure out Control Center.
Almost all drivers run well, some have to be forced by using VISTA RTM
compatibility mode. But they will install fine.
Exception is, the Intel VGA driver wont install. But the default driver is already very good and newer.
Also, the Control Center for the EC doesnt work. It installs, but the shagctrl.exe crashes upon start. I have to see what goes on with that.
About the touchscreen. It was a little tricky at first and I needed to reinstall Windows 7. But if you install the EC driver first, before any other
driver, you can get it to work. The touchscreen responds perfect and the default calibration is also perfect. (better and more accurate than Vista)
Windows 7 itself seems like a good approach to a new OS. Its very simple and speedy and features a new taskbar, I would call it Quickbar...it has some jumplists where you can pin programs and folders. Its ok, but maybe better on big screens. Nice are the icon previews of your stuff launched in the taskbar...i will see that i get some screenshots going.
Also new is Internet Explorer 8, featuring site suggestions according to your surf behaviour. It also checks your downloads for threads while downloading.
Windows Media Player is 12.
Finally, i get about 110min battery life with default power settings, Wifi and Bluetooth enabled.

Does anyone have the original HTC driver and application set?
(not the one from the website, the one which comes with the Shift)
I want to try the older Control Center, but I am too lazy to extract the install.wim...

I got about the same results as aquasesh. Drivers installed ok except control center and touch screen. Windows 7 feels faster than Vista.
Let me know if you fint a solution to the control center and touch screen issues

deadnex said:
I got about the same results as aquasesh. Drivers installed ok except control center and touch screen. Windows 7 feels faster than Vista.
Let me know if you fint a solution to the control center and touch screen issues
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Touchscreen is fixed. Just install the Embedded Controller driver first, right after the installation. After that I installed fingerprint, chipset and
finally touchscreen.
I am about to test AVI performance. And after I will try to fix the Control Center.

Thanks mate
I really appreciate your work...

Thanks a ton for testing Windows 7 on Shift ...
Thanks a ton for testing Windows 7 on Shift ...
I am very eagerly following your feedback on the windows 7 experience as it was always my personal feeling that the culprit behind shift's slow response is vista ...
I will download windows 7 soon and will give it a try ...
Look forward to reading your's and other's experiences and refining my install when i take the plunge ...

Aquasesh - did you find a way to make the 1024x600 interpolation work in Windows 7?

deadnex said:
Aquasesh - did you find a way to make the 1024x600 interpolation work in Windows 7?
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Not yet, the main problem is that the tool to switch the resolution, relies on the control center to work.
So far, I have not been able to get this working and i havent found the problem either.
I want to try the shipping version of the control center, but i have to extract it from the recovery partition first...will do that in a couple of hours.
If this doesnt work, I will try a different approach and try to mix my own tool.
I also tested the AVI performance, but video plays slow as ass...so nothing changed here.

aquasesh said:
Not yet, the main problem is that the tool to switch the resolution, relies on the control center to work.
So far, I have not been able to get this working and i havent found the problem either.
I want to try the shipping version of the control center, but i have to extract it from the recovery partition first...will do that in a couple of hours.
If this doesnt work, I will try a different approach and try to mix my own tool.
I also tested the AVI performance, but video plays slow as ass...so nothing changed here.
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From where did you get your Beta?
thanks
Ram

Try this SwapResolution utility.

saiweb said:
From where did you get your Beta?
thanks
Ram
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Search the known torrent sites for something like "windows 7 build 6801 32 bit".

Diamond Vista sync problem

Hi there. Few days ago I changed my OS from XP to Vista. From that time I couldnt sync my Diamond. I have got SP1 and all updates. I wanted install Windows Mobile Device Center Update but when the instalattion was nearly at 99% it reversed at uninstall without any message. I havent any Windows Mobile Device Center icon between programs but I have this icon in Control Panel. I can connect my Diamond to laptop, I can transfer files for example but there is no tasks or contacts sync. Can anybody help me? I treid many thinks I found on the Internet but still no solution. I checked the Firewall as well and the related applications are allowed. I even tried to switch off the firewall but didnt help me.

So I found the solution by myself. Maybe it wil be useful for somebody. Before installing Windows Mobile Device Center Update you should do at least the following:
- update graphic driver at the newest one,
- update all Microsoft Windows Mobile Remore Adapter related things.
Important: the mobile must be conneected to the computer during searching for updates and installing them as well.
My computer is ASUS eeePC 1000H. Now it works like charm.

I have only one thing to say about Vista:
Its an amazing OS I love Vista.
Waiting patiently for Window 7.
Greets.

Sergio PC said:
I have only one thing to say about Vista:
Its an amazing OS I love Vista.
Waiting patiently for Window 7.
Greets.
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I guess you jokiing
well, it's not the forum for Vista, but i must say
Vista It's piss of ****...
1. My daughter got Laptop with Vista (Toshiba), during 4 month she had to Re install OS (and all programs) after Vista made Auto Update and could not recover from it..
2. Many programs I bought for her with good money, could not
run on the Vista.
3. Vista it's like forest.. so many trees , so you could not see the forest

Anybody have an official ISO of complete Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit?

So I'd like to re-install the OS on one of my machines, but I only have an original Vista Ultimate DVD and separate SP1 update.
As the procedure to do this with my old disks is to uninstall SP1, reinstall the OS, and then reinstall SP1, suffice it to say that this would be a huge P.I.A., and it would take hours longer than it needs to if I had the right disk.
I'm not looking for a cracked version... rather, I want the real thing (got my own license keys, thank you very much).
Any help appreciated!
PS. Same thing would be great for 32-bit Vista Business!

y not Windows 7 beta.
u can download a copy from microsoft.com last month, now the offer expired.

sorry
but MS have copyright on the disk so we can't help you here.
thread closed

Upgrade to Window 7 or downgrade to Windows XP

Anyone that using shift with windows 7 or windows XP, which is the best OS for shift?just asking the opinion and one question, If using external USB DVD to install windows XP or windows 7 are the hardisk backup image for windows vista business original also erase?because when I loading the setup cannot find the backup rom image for windows vista business.. how can I view on setup screen..

Setup windows XP
if I on the blue screen setup, only show hardisk 40gb but if i format the windows vista.. if I bored using the windows XP and want to recover back to windows vista?Can i recover back using FN + F3

putrawanz said:
if I on the blue screen setup, only show hardisk 40gb but if i format the windows vista.. if I bored using the windows XP and want to recover back to windows vista?Can i recover back using FN + F3
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The recovery partition is hidden (HPA - Host Protected Area) and will not be affected if you install a different OS. You can still recover using Fn+F3

can it revert back after install another OS?
deadnex said:
The recovery partition is hidden (HPA - Host Protected Area) and will not be affected if you install a different OS. You can still recover using Fn+F3
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oh.. thats mean if i format the harddisk to install windows xp or windows 7,if i want to revert back to vista just press fn + f3 right?that mean if i for c: in blue screen the recovery cannot been deleted right?sorry for my question,because i'm still confusing

That is correct...Vista is always there for a backup via Fcn F3....unless your hard drive fails....

now i know.. thanks FOOFTR
FOOFTR said:
That is correct...Vista is always there for a backup via Fcn F3....unless your hard drive fails....
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thanks FOOFTR for the explaination about the recovery. Then if the hard drive is fail can i change with the new hardrive and get the recovery function.. anyone can tell me how to backup the recovery partition

Dual Boot
Hi,
I have both XP and W7 installed.
Windows 7:
W7 runs just as smoothly as XP, so that is no isue.
W7 gives me half an hour more battery time!
But:
There are some programs that W7 doesnot run for me: My Musical Score program, and my network printer driver
Windows XP:
XP runs just as smoothly as W7.
Xp is known so very easy to work with, I know where everyting is...
XP Everything works with XP!
But: shorter battery time.
No right-click circle.
I like Windows 7 better.
It just looks better and the overall feel is smoother. I doesnot really run faster than XP it just feels that way
However I still have XP installed because I need my music program and I might want to print something....
Usualy, on the road, in the train etc. For browsing emailing etc. I use W7.
For productivity I still have to use XP.
I am working on gettin W7 to do it all...
greetz,
I hope I was helpfull,
Pfeffa-rah

Pfeffa-rah said:
Hi,
I have both XP and W7 installed.
Windows 7:
W7 runs just as smoothly as XP, so that is no isue.
W7 gives me half an hour more battery time!
But:
There are some programs that W7 doesnot run for me: My Musical Score program, and my network printer driver
Windows XP:
XP runs just as smoothly as W7.
Xp is known so very easy to work with, I know where everyting is...
XP Everything works with XP!
But: shorter battery time.
No right-click circle.
I like Windows 7 better.
It just looks better and the overall feel is smoother. I doesnot really run faster than XP it just feels that way
However I still have XP installed because I need my music program and I might want to print something....
Usualy, on the road, in the train etc. For browsing emailing etc. I use W7.
For productivity I still have to use XP.
I am working on gettin W7 to do it all...
greetz,
I hope I was helpfull,
Pfeffa-rah
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you should try running a virtual pc with windows 98 in it or someting for the printing instead.

i installed windows xp and all working fine
but i'm not to connect to the internet thru snapvue like how it was in vista using command manager
any body hav sulotion for this

Windows 7 RTM on HTC Shift?

Do any one tried windows 7 RTM on HTC Shift?
How you installed it and do all the drivers of windows vista work on Shift and do Shift perform faster in windows 7 instead of windows vista?
Thank you.

It works
It won't be much different from W7 RC, so you can install it and follow the guidelines on this forum for RC, RTM will behave the same.
It will be faster than vista, less memory consuming , and better suited
for mobile touch screens like our SHift.
Just do it

I do mention that it still have the specific Windows 7 on HTC Shift problems, as BSOD when AERO 1024x600, fullscreen Windows Media Center and all other problems. Control Center works well, touchscreen as well and all other chipsets.
PS: the sucks is however the "can't portrait, just landscape". No 3d party programs are working to change to portrait view...

I installed Windows 7 RTM without any problem and the BSOD in 1024x600 is solved disabling the Aero. (Using the Windows 7 Basic theme).
Nando

that's a work around
fealde said:
I installed Windows 7 RTM without any problem and the BSOD in 1024x600 is solved disabling the Aero. (Using the Windows 7 Basic theme).
Nando
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That's actually a workaround, we all want aero to work in 1024x
Let's hope some smart person writes something to help us out.

I have installed Windows 7 RTM on the Shift successfully.
After the installation of the drivers, i can't make WiFi and TouchScreen to work.
TouchScreen - i don't have DPinst.exe in the directory for EC Driver (as stated in the PDF file).
WiFi - i install the drivers, do a reset but still it doesnt recognize the WiFi adapter.
How did u manage to install them ?

fulgerul said:
I have installed Windows 7 RTM on the Shift successfully.
After the installation of the drivers, i can't make WiFi and TouchScreen to work.
TouchScreen - i don't have DPinst.exe in the directory for EC Driver (as stated in the PDF file).
WiFi - i install the drivers, do a reset but still it doesnt recognize the WiFi adapter.
How did u manage to install them ?
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Did you remember to turn on the Wifi and Bluetooth on the Vista side before installing Windows7?

The only problem is the touchscreen isn't working for me
Fresh install

For me everything is working, like the default shift install during the unpacking of the product. After Win7, most of the system is working already, only network (Lan and Wireless), Touchscreen, and the Shift control center needs installation. I have installed all the drivers (downloaded from the HTC site) that were still needed, as "administrator, and in compatibility mode for windows vista sp2. ( right click on the setup | properties | checkmark the option to run as administrator, and check the correct compatibility mode. Or use vista, or windows xp) First thing to install is the "Vista EC Driver ", after that the USB LAN driver. Than run the automatic update until you have installed all the windows 7 updates. You notice that the screen drivers are updated to the latest version. Than its time to install the rest of the drivers still needed: Touchscreen and the Marvall Wifi. (in compatibility mode installed...) The Control button on the shift is not working, but the Shift control program can be started via the programs button of windows 7, and all the options to start wireless and bleutooth are working.
My advise: Upgrade as soon as possible: Default Installation of WinVista gave me 720 MB memory in use after a fresh restart, the Windows7 uses 510 MB... so major performance boost !
Have fun,
Manus