Anyone that using shift with windows 7 or windows XP, which is the best OS for shift?just asking the opinion and one question, If using external USB DVD to install windows XP or windows 7 are the hardisk backup image for windows vista business original also erase?because when I loading the setup cannot find the backup rom image for windows vista business.. how can I view on setup screen..
Setup windows XP
if I on the blue screen setup, only show hardisk 40gb but if i format the windows vista.. if I bored using the windows XP and want to recover back to windows vista?Can i recover back using FN + F3
putrawanz said:
if I on the blue screen setup, only show hardisk 40gb but if i format the windows vista.. if I bored using the windows XP and want to recover back to windows vista?Can i recover back using FN + F3
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The recovery partition is hidden (HPA - Host Protected Area) and will not be affected if you install a different OS. You can still recover using Fn+F3
can it revert back after install another OS?
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The recovery partition is hidden (HPA - Host Protected Area) and will not be affected if you install a different OS. You can still recover using Fn+F3
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oh.. thats mean if i format the harddisk to install windows xp or windows 7,if i want to revert back to vista just press fn + f3 right?that mean if i for c: in blue screen the recovery cannot been deleted right?sorry for my question,because i'm still confusing
That is correct...Vista is always there for a backup via Fcn F3....unless your hard drive fails....
now i know.. thanks FOOFTR
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That is correct...Vista is always there for a backup via Fcn F3....unless your hard drive fails....
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thanks FOOFTR for the explaination about the recovery. Then if the hard drive is fail can i change with the new hardrive and get the recovery function.. anyone can tell me how to backup the recovery partition
Dual Boot
Hi,
I have both XP and W7 installed.
Windows 7:
W7 runs just as smoothly as XP, so that is no isue.
W7 gives me half an hour more battery time!
But:
There are some programs that W7 doesnot run for me: My Musical Score program, and my network printer driver
Windows XP:
XP runs just as smoothly as W7.
Xp is known so very easy to work with, I know where everyting is...
XP Everything works with XP!
But: shorter battery time.
No right-click circle.
I like Windows 7 better.
It just looks better and the overall feel is smoother. I doesnot really run faster than XP it just feels that way
However I still have XP installed because I need my music program and I might want to print something....
Usualy, on the road, in the train etc. For browsing emailing etc. I use W7.
For productivity I still have to use XP.
I am working on gettin W7 to do it all...
greetz,
I hope I was helpfull,
Pfeffa-rah
Pfeffa-rah said:
Hi,
I have both XP and W7 installed.
Windows 7:
W7 runs just as smoothly as XP, so that is no isue.
W7 gives me half an hour more battery time!
But:
There are some programs that W7 doesnot run for me: My Musical Score program, and my network printer driver
Windows XP:
XP runs just as smoothly as W7.
Xp is known so very easy to work with, I know where everyting is...
XP Everything works with XP!
But: shorter battery time.
No right-click circle.
I like Windows 7 better.
It just looks better and the overall feel is smoother. I doesnot really run faster than XP it just feels that way
However I still have XP installed because I need my music program and I might want to print something....
Usualy, on the road, in the train etc. For browsing emailing etc. I use W7.
For productivity I still have to use XP.
I am working on gettin W7 to do it all...
greetz,
I hope I was helpfull,
Pfeffa-rah
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you should try running a virtual pc with windows 98 in it or someting for the printing instead.
i installed windows xp and all working fine
but i'm not to connect to the internet thru snapvue like how it was in vista using command manager
any body hav sulotion for this
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I recently switched to a Mac and was wondering if anyone knew the alternative to Microsoft ActiveSync on Mac OS X. I did a brief search and came up with information about Microsoft Entourage [which I do have on my Mac] and was just wondering if anyone has experience with this? If I plug my Tilt right into my Mac, will Entourage pick it up or what?
Thanks in advance, Walt.
For Mac OS X, you need a (non-free) software called Missing Sync.
Or you can use Parallels to run Windows XP and ActiveSync from within Mac OS.
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For Mac OS X, you need a (non-free) software called Missing Sync.
Or you can use Parallels to run Windows XP and ActiveSync from within Mac OS.
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I have an iMac running Leopard and I run Missing Sync. Works great for me. Syncs Address Book, iCal , iPhoto , Tasks, Phone Log, even iTunes (non DRM ) music.
I also have my Tilt sync'd to the Windows XP side of my Mac because the one thing you cannot do through Missing Sync is flash new roms or radios. That can only be done through Windows. But I use Bootcamp , I used to use Parallels but their support for their product is non existent.
I needed help with a setting and emailed them and Nova Development no less than 15 times, never even an acknowledgement. Bootcamp is free runs smoother and has better graphics compatibility.
You will need a Windows machine for updates.
syncmate
syncmate is free and works great for me. Im running leopard on a powerbook.
denco7 said:
I have an iMac running Leopard and I run Missing Sync. Works great for me. Syncs Address Book, iCal , iPhoto , Tasks, Phone Log, even iTunes (non DRM ) music.
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same here, no complaints at all ..
i recommend u have dual system - get windows xp as a virtual machine it will be cost effective and more reliable especially if you are a flashing man like the rest of us
best regards
NotoriousWalt said:
I recently switched to a Mac and was wondering if anyone knew the alternative to Microsoft ActiveSync on Mac OS X. I did a brief search and came up with information about Microsoft Entourage [which I do have on my Mac] and was just wondering if anyone has experience with this? If I plug my Tilt right into my Mac, will Entourage pick it up or what?
Thanks in advance, Walt.
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On my MacBook Pro, Missing Sync.
One note on uploading ROM's. I was able at one time to do it using Parallels but recently one of Dutty's ROMs locked my Tilt in the Tri color screen. It wasn't the ROM, something had change either in a new version of Parallels or OSX. Moving over to an old Toshiba fixed the phone. I've since tested it again and it still fails on Parallels. Just a word to the wise.
JohnnyGTO said:
On my MacBook Pro, Missing Sync.
One note on uploading ROM's. I was able at one time to do it using Parallels but recently one of Dutty's ROMs locked my Tilt in the Tri color screen. It wasn't the ROM, something had change either in a new version of Parallels or OSX. Moving over to an old Toshiba fixed the phone. I've since tested it again and it still fails on Parallels. Just a word to the wise.
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Same thing happened with me under parallels. I can still flash radio firmware and splashes using Parallels, but when flashing the entire rom, its like the connection gets interrupted or timed out. I was previously able to do it before so Im positive its either a parallels or OSX issue when it updated.
Dual boot and use WinDoZe to handle the rom flashing, but honestly Missing sync works great for the contacts / address book info / ect.
=D
I tried to reply to your post maybe 3 different times last night through opera on my device but failed...
anyway i'm on the same boat. Have misssing sync but dont use it much.. my main mode of connectivity is on windows running through vmware's fusion... no problems what so ever with flashing roms.. i used to use parallel's but tried out fusion and liked it a lot better! highly recommend it.
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I tried to reply to your post maybe 3 different times last night through opera on my device but failed...
anyway i'm on the same boat. Have misssing sync but dont use it much.. my main mode of connectivity is on windows running through vmware's fusion... no problems what so ever with flashing roms.. i used to use parallel's but tried out fusion and liked it a lot better! highly recommend it.
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Funny thing... I have Fusion and never tried to flash through it. Ill give that a shot. TY for the input there
I tried quickly to get my Wizard syncing with a VirtualBox VM with no success. Does someone use VirtualBox to connect to a WM device?
Hi there. Few days ago I changed my OS from XP to Vista. From that time I couldnt sync my Diamond. I have got SP1 and all updates. I wanted install Windows Mobile Device Center Update but when the instalattion was nearly at 99% it reversed at uninstall without any message. I havent any Windows Mobile Device Center icon between programs but I have this icon in Control Panel. I can connect my Diamond to laptop, I can transfer files for example but there is no tasks or contacts sync. Can anybody help me? I treid many thinks I found on the Internet but still no solution. I checked the Firewall as well and the related applications are allowed. I even tried to switch off the firewall but didnt help me.
So I found the solution by myself. Maybe it wil be useful for somebody. Before installing Windows Mobile Device Center Update you should do at least the following:
- update graphic driver at the newest one,
- update all Microsoft Windows Mobile Remore Adapter related things.
Important: the mobile must be conneected to the computer during searching for updates and installing them as well.
My computer is ASUS eeePC 1000H. Now it works like charm.
I have only one thing to say about Vista:
Its an amazing OS I love Vista.
Waiting patiently for Window 7.
Greets.
Sergio PC said:
I have only one thing to say about Vista:
Its an amazing OS I love Vista.
Waiting patiently for Window 7.
Greets.
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I guess you jokiing
well, it's not the forum for Vista, but i must say
Vista It's piss of ****...
1. My daughter got Laptop with Vista (Toshiba), during 4 month she had to Re install OS (and all programs) after Vista made Auto Update and could not recover from it..
2. Many programs I bought for her with good money, could not
run on the Vista.
3. Vista it's like forest.. so many trees , so you could not see the forest
Do any one tried windows 7 RTM on HTC Shift?
How you installed it and do all the drivers of windows vista work on Shift and do Shift perform faster in windows 7 instead of windows vista?
Thank you.
It works
It won't be much different from W7 RC, so you can install it and follow the guidelines on this forum for RC, RTM will behave the same.
It will be faster than vista, less memory consuming , and better suited
for mobile touch screens like our SHift.
Just do it
I do mention that it still have the specific Windows 7 on HTC Shift problems, as BSOD when AERO 1024x600, fullscreen Windows Media Center and all other problems. Control Center works well, touchscreen as well and all other chipsets.
PS: the sucks is however the "can't portrait, just landscape". No 3d party programs are working to change to portrait view...
I installed Windows 7 RTM without any problem and the BSOD in 1024x600 is solved disabling the Aero. (Using the Windows 7 Basic theme).
Nando
that's a work around
fealde said:
I installed Windows 7 RTM without any problem and the BSOD in 1024x600 is solved disabling the Aero. (Using the Windows 7 Basic theme).
Nando
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That's actually a workaround, we all want aero to work in 1024x
Let's hope some smart person writes something to help us out.
I have installed Windows 7 RTM on the Shift successfully.
After the installation of the drivers, i can't make WiFi and TouchScreen to work.
TouchScreen - i don't have DPinst.exe in the directory for EC Driver (as stated in the PDF file).
WiFi - i install the drivers, do a reset but still it doesnt recognize the WiFi adapter.
How did u manage to install them ?
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I have installed Windows 7 RTM on the Shift successfully.
After the installation of the drivers, i can't make WiFi and TouchScreen to work.
TouchScreen - i don't have DPinst.exe in the directory for EC Driver (as stated in the PDF file).
WiFi - i install the drivers, do a reset but still it doesnt recognize the WiFi adapter.
How did u manage to install them ?
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Did you remember to turn on the Wifi and Bluetooth on the Vista side before installing Windows7?
The only problem is the touchscreen isn't working for me
Fresh install
For me everything is working, like the default shift install during the unpacking of the product. After Win7, most of the system is working already, only network (Lan and Wireless), Touchscreen, and the Shift control center needs installation. I have installed all the drivers (downloaded from the HTC site) that were still needed, as "administrator, and in compatibility mode for windows vista sp2. ( right click on the setup | properties | checkmark the option to run as administrator, and check the correct compatibility mode. Or use vista, or windows xp) First thing to install is the "Vista EC Driver ", after that the USB LAN driver. Than run the automatic update until you have installed all the windows 7 updates. You notice that the screen drivers are updated to the latest version. Than its time to install the rest of the drivers still needed: Touchscreen and the Marvall Wifi. (in compatibility mode installed...) The Control button on the shift is not working, but the Shift control program can be started via the programs button of windows 7, and all the options to start wireless and bleutooth are working.
My advise: Upgrade as soon as possible: Default Installation of WinVista gave me 720 MB memory in use after a fresh restart, the Windows7 uses 510 MB... so major performance boost !
Have fun,
Manus
Hello i am new to posting on this site but a long time reader and i have a Xda mini S (wizard).
anyway
i have been looking around the internet because of a crazy idea in my mind.
The idea came to me yesterday after upgrading my rom to WM6.1 then to WM6.5
So am looking at WM6.5 and just am thinking wouldnt it be nice to have Windows Xp on my phone so can be like a portable laptop with calling and texting.
i saw some thing about it for a different pda i think
so was just wondering is it possible to upgrade the rom and install XP on a Xda Mini s.
Doesnt have to be like the Desktop version it can be a mini remake.
as long as its possible to flash it again afterwards if i change my mind about it.
Anyone have any ideas for me ?
An easy way to fix this is via citrix, or via vmware...
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
@HackWindows
Take a look at windows 98/XP on PDA!!!!!.
@RDilus
Great answer. Maybe next time someone have a question you beat him up .
RDilus said:
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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Dont See why PDA cuddnt run WINDOWS even if its a early version Most PDA specs match up + whats the point in answering on this post if you gonna say stuff like that ... your obviously not being helpfull.
Delete you account and not the thread =/
samxein said:
@HackWindows
Take a look at windows 98/XP on PDA!!!!!.
@RDilus
Great answer. Maybe next time someone have a question you beat him up .
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cheers i will do some more research on this
RDilus said:
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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be more polite....
XP Phone
Check this website. To bad they created a phone that runs XP and not a phone on vista or 7
RDilus said:
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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And here - -> http://www.intomobile.com/2009/09/17/preorders-open-for-windows-xp-phone.html
Maybe you should think outside the box a little before emphatically saying something isn't possible. Heck, 60 years ago noone thought it possible to carry around a phone withoutwires, or have a computer smaller than the size of a room.
hello,
i wanna say i had win 98.
but.... you have to change resolution with nyditot cause it isn't vga.
and on mine the mouse doesn't work.
just se this lik earlyer said http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362344
.
so goodluck i know it works cause i had it myself.
but as i said no mouse and slow.
just try it is great to see
also watch youtube there are movies about it.
Well, it is impossible to run Windows XP natively, because the architecture of the wizard(or any htc smartphone) differs from the pc architecture.
However, there are 2 ways to "run" xp on your wizard:
1) With an x86 emulator like bochs or qemu; you don't want that because it's even slow on a normal pc, and you still don't have sufficient RAM to run xp.
2) Run xp on a normal pc and use VNC or RDP to control it remotely(so you need a fast internet connection). I believe there an rdp app called "Terminal Services client" on a default wm installation, so I'd go for that one.
If you want to run windows to play games on your pda, I'd advice to forget it, vnc and rdp are not designed for such tasks...
Well, I dig this idea. any one with the know how should be able to port Tablet PC OS into an .nbf file with all the right drivers an stripped of all unnecessary junk ( a minimalist version) . If not a complete os than lookalike may be. May be i am dreaming big but someone should be able to help. I see ppl trying to port Linux/ android on wizard than why not XP?
The Omap processor (which is an ARM processor) isn't powerful enough to Emulate a x86 processor with acceptable speeds and memory to run XP on a wizard (even if XP has been stripped etc..).
Thread closed.
Hi guys,
as I read through the threads the upgrade to Win 7, same as the downgrade to Win XP, always requires the new installation of all software application programs that are not bundled with the OS.
i.e. MS Office, FireFox, Navigation software, ......
In June 2009 various news sites confirmed this obstacle.
In the last days I read that there will be (possibly) an upgrade that will not require the user to re-install the application layer programs.
Can anyone confirm or deny this statement.
And if it's confirmed will it be possible for the Shift?
Thnx a lot, guys
If you are upgrading from Vista, it is fine - you can do an in place upgrade and it will bring all your installed programs across.
If you have downgraded to XP, the only way to upgrade whilst preserving all your install programs is to upgrade to Vista first, and the upgrade to Win7 - there is no direct path from XP to Win7.
Regards,
Dave
Yeah, but Vista is still lurking, isn't it?
I'd rather endure installing everything twice (XP and Win7) than have Vista anywhere near my Shift!
In fact I did
foxmeister said:
If you are upgrading from Vista, it is fine - you can do an in place upgrade and it will bring all your installed programs across.
If you have downgraded to XP, the only way to upgrade whilst preserving all your install programs is to upgrade to Vista first, and the upgrade to Win7 - there is no direct path from XP to Win7.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi Dave,
thnx for your information.
I haven't done any downgrading (XP), not even the SP1 for Vista.
I have only liberated the Shift.
The OS is as shipped from HTC, only application programs installed.
If I do an inplace upgrade, will it get rid of all the Vista stuff that slows down the device? Meaning, will it be as good as a "complete from scratch" installation of Win 7?
Second, which version of Win 7 should I get? Home, Professional, RC?
And where do I get it?
Thnx a lot, cheers
baucis99
Yesterday I made a full backup image of my Vista installation. Then I upgraded my HTC Shift to Windows 7 Enterprise RTM from MSDN.
The upgrade process took 3 hours, because it had to migrate 300.000 files and settings from one OS to the other. Before the setup I had 15GiB free on the HDD and after that 18GiB where free! So upgrading Vista to Windows 7 won't leave any old memory chunk on the HDD.
I only had to reinstall the Touchscreen Drivers. Everything else was still there: Several network shares, desktop widgets, explorer settings, all the applications with theirs settings, my two Outlook profiles with their on Exchange setups and so on.
Windows 7 itself also responds faster than with Vista. With the same auto-start applications I have more free RAM available and the OS itself looks much better.
So I can only recommend you to upgrade your Vista to Windows 7.
There is no need for a clean install, as long as your current Vista setup isn't anyhow broken.
After this Windows 7 experience I hope that the prejudice against Windows upgrades will be a thing of the past.
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For the Windows 7 upgrade your Vista needs to have SP1 at least. I upgraded a Vista with SP2 and the latest Windows Update patches. The setup has to be started within Vista, otherwise it won't allow an upgrade. And you don't need to burn the Windows 7 DVD. You can mount it in Vista into a virtual drive or you can extract the ISO files to an folder. Before the first reboot the setup copies all the necessary installation files onto the local HDD. So after that the DVD isn't needed anymore.
LordDeath said:
Yesterday I made a full backup image of my Vista installation. Then I upgraded my HTC Shift to Windows 7 Enterprise RTM from MSDN.
The upgrade process took 3 hours, because it had to migrate 300.000 files and settings from one OS to the other. Before the setup I had 15GiB free on the HDD and after that 18GiB where free! So upgrading Vista to Windows 7 won't leave any old memory chunk on the HDD.
I only had to reinstall the Touchscreen Drivers. Everything else was still there: Several network shares, desktop widgets, explorer settings, all the applications with theirs settings, my two Outlook profiles with their on Exchange setups and so on.
Windows 7 itself also responds faster than with Vista. With the same auto-start applications I have more free RAM available and the OS itself looks much better.
So I can only recommend you to upgrade your Vista to Windows 7.
There is no need for a clean install, as long as your current Vista setup isn't anyhow broken.
After this Windows 7 experience I hope that the prejudice against Windows upgrades will be a thing of the past.
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For the Windows 7 upgrade your Vista needs to have SP1 at least. I upgraded a Vista with SP2 and the latest Windows Update patches. The setup has to be started within Vista, otherwise it won't allow an upgrade. And you don't need to burn the Windows 7 DVD. You can mount it in Vista into a virtual drive or you can extract the ISO files to an folder. Before the first reboot the setup copies all the necessary installation files onto the local HDD. So after that the DVD isn't needed anymore.
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Well i followed these steps - and when windows 7 boots the touch screen did not work as stated - so i downloaded the drivers from the HTC shift page, installed them. Although they did not error - they also did not work - seems to install properly but still not touch screen.
Also when I put the screen to 1024x600 the device bluescreened as it did in the pre-release versions..
Has anyone got Win 7 working (MSDN Release) and all hardware working; if so please share your steps.
Thanks
Kris
baucis99 said:
econd, which version of Win 7 should I get? Home, Professional, RC?
And where do I get it?
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MS have stopped distributing the RC now, but they will still provide product keys for it until Oct'09 (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx).
You can get the full RTM version of Win7 if you have an MSDN or Technet subscription, but otherwise you'll have to search the usual sources for a copy of the RC iso (not promoting warez here!).
Regards,
Dave
i00 said:
Well i followed these steps - and when windows 7 boots the touch screen did not work as stated - so i downloaded the drivers from the HTC shift page, installed them. Although they did not error - they also did not work - seems to install properly but still not touch screen.
Also when I put the screen to 1024x600 the device bluescreened as it did in the pre-release versions..
Has anyone got Win 7 working (MSDN Release) and all hardware working; if so please share your steps.
Thanks
Kris
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Hello,
please try to uninstall the the VistaECDrvV1[1].0.1.10 driver first, then reboot, install it again and reboot again. Afaik I did this to activate the touchscreen driver.
Good luck!
And about 1024x600: That is a known problem. The Intel driver creates a BSOD as soon as you use a resolution higher than 800x480. The current workaround is to disable the Aero effects. With Aero Basic you can switch to higher resolutions without crashing the system.
I hope this will be fixed soon.
LordDeath said:
Hello,
please try to uninstall the the VistaECDrvV1[1].0.1.10 driver first, then reboot, install it again and reboot again. Afaik I did this to activate the touchscreen driver.
Good luck!
And about 1024x600: That is a known problem. The Intel driver creates a BSOD as soon as you use a resolution higher than 800x480. The current workaround is to disable the Aero effects. With Aero Basic you can switch to higher resolutions without crashing the system.
I hope this will be fixed soon.
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Ahh ok I didn't uninstall the previous driver 1st just tried to install over it. And I got the impression from #5 that the aero thing would work now - looks like ill be sticking with vista then thanks neway.
Kris
HTC shift (clio 160)
I had to format my htc shift (CLIO 160) and reinstall a new vista ultimate.
But since i done this, wifi and touchscreen doesnt work anymore.
I went on HTC website and downloaded the drivers for MARVELL SD8686 WIRELESS LAN SDIO ADAPTER and driver for touchscreen but it still not working.
Could you please help me.
Thank you