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SMS Messages:

Anyone else have a problem where they send a message to someone and then the person you sent it to, end up receiving 2 instead? It seems to be all the time. Any ideas? Im with O2 in the UK. Also the annoying LED's on the unit. Sometimes when i do the reg fix it works fine, other times after a h/reset and reg fix applied, the light starts again about 10 mins later, and it seems impossible to stop it......
Help guys
XDA IIs
CE 1.40
Radio 1.12
Ex: 1.40 cooked

Ignore this one, turns out after a little research, if you use SPB Pocket plus close button feature, you have to make an exception for tmail.exe

heres a fix
When an sms is compsed there is an option in the sms settings that will allow you to tick “Use Unicode when necessary” if this option is ticked what will happen either your sms will be sent twice
(for the people who really want know what Unicode is, its software that allows software to see foreign charcthers, such as chines Koren. More info at http://www.unicode.org/)
So just untick the option will resolve the problem. When this option is ticked instead of your charcherts size being the 160 it is dropped to 70 charcheres so as soon as you go over the 70 mark its 2 sms.
To fix this you go from the front of your device
Click on start, then down to messaging.
Tap on accounts in the tab below and then select accounts from the list.
Now tap on tex messages
Now just click Unicode off.
AND there we have it.

Actually, Using the option Unicode when necessary uses Unicode formatting ONLY when a Unicode character is found in the message.
I always put this option on, and when my message contains any Unicode character, it converts the whole message into Unicode (hence the message size will be a multiples of 70 chars and not 160). But if your message is pure ANSI characters (all English) then it will be send as it without using Unicode encoding (160 chars).

RZZKT slaam walicum, bud or just plain hello,
i see your point, only thing is here in the UK when we send an sms it goes through spefic sms centre's on the mobile networks then gets routed through various sms gateways etc etc what happens on the Vodafone network and on orange is when you compose a sms say just right TEST if the unicode option is ticked on then the sms when routed will be sent 2ice, on vodafone iv tracked the process for the sms and we can see whats called sms refernce number and if a phone is sending multipull sms the refernce number will be the same, but from my device(spv m2000-unlocked and office qteck9090) the sms refernce number stays the same so the networjk does not belive its a multipull sms but instead it treats it as the device is sending 2 seperate sms's--even when the tracking info time tag shows id time frame i.e sms 1 19:00:16secs sms 2 19:00:16secs.
As i work for Vodafone i can track the sms traffic on our system but its the same situation with the orange network when i have my orange sim in the spv.
Just the way our networks work im afraid. As for the above poor chapy, its going to either be what we are discussing or issue issue with his device(which may be more probable orrrrrrr issue with o2)
never mind wish him all the best!

N2h, wa'alaykom assalam
Ohh i see! thats why its not happening here with me.
We have something called SMS Center, we just put this center's number in the SMS message settings.
Its nice to work in Vodafone... guess you have unlimited phone calls 8)
Lucky you :wink:

Does anyone use the Palm Threaded SMS on their Kaiser?

I am using the shogunmark one for WM6, and it seems to be working okay. I have an issue though that I am wondering if it traces to this application.
Sometimes in the morning, I notice that Outlook seems to hang with the "please wait" circle/hourglass thing and it requires a soft reset to fix. Simply closing all applications does not fix it.
I don't know if this is a corrupt issue with Outlook, ActiveSync, or if separating SMS from Outlook causes the problem.

I use the app without any issues. Send lots of SMS but I don't send MMS at all.

I have had no problems so far but i've only used it for a few days. Pocket Outlook works as normal as far as i know. I don't really send mms so losing that ability is ok by me.
Sending SMS from Outlook is very annoying for me not only because it's not threaded but also when i type the contact's name in the receiver field it only shows whatever number is filed under "Mobile Number" but most if not all of the people i text to have more than 2 mobile phone numbers and i cant change the number (or at least i dont know how to change it from there). The Palm application lets you choose whatever number you have under that contact's name.

there is a fix for the mms i forgot which thread its in,

Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?

trjons said:
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
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Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.

would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?

imdbui said:
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded

Entropy512 said:
Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
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I don't. But it might have something to do with that anyway.

trjons said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
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thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?

i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt

Well from what i've read using MMS from the Palm application is not possible at all. The "fix" is for the MMS tab to reappear in Pocket Outlook and to send MMS from there instead. I tried doing it for my v1615 on Vodafone but couldnt get it to work. Maybe others had more luck.

Ive been using the Palm Application since I flashed to the new rom.. I have not noticed this problem.. I will pay more attention and post back if I see it happening!

imdbui said:
thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
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Yes, the HTC Home Today Plug-In does read the SMS count when using the Palm Threaded SMS app.

Palm Sms + Kaiser = Bad?
dashraider said:
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
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I have the same problem on the ATT original ROM and Duttys Hybrid rom
It randomly gives out of memory error even with no other app running
Or everytime i try to create an mms
ANY FIX?

Text message resend..? Help?

Is there any cab file out there for the AT&T tilt that would allow a message that can't be sent, due to no service, or receiving another text at the same time, ect... Is there any cab that would allow me a message resend button as opposed to having to open the drafts, open the text, send the text, open back up the inbox...?
If this doesn't exist, can anyone capable of writing code create me this hack? It would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!

windows mobile 6.1 + "threaded" text messaging
if you are using a WinMo 6.1 ROM, threaded text messaging is enabled by default (if not enabled, use KaiserTweak to enable threaded messaging).
i clearly remember (because it has happened with me TWICE) that the threaded messaging view will display any unsent messages (within the thread) in RED color and will provide a clickable link labeled "Try again"...the function of the link is self explanatory
the combination of events you are talking about (sending a message exactly when receiving a message and/or a phone call) is RARE but it DOES happen...fortunately, i don't mind using the threaded messaging view and i get the resend link (in case of transmission failure for whatever reason) as a bonus
hope this helps...good luck!

It's not necessiarily rare to me as I text all the time, haha. I know what you're talking about, but I don't like threaded text messaging. It becomes slow and sluggish after a while. I highly appreciate the suggestion though!
Does anybody know of a program that would allow this tweak?

Quite some time since I used Arcsoft but didnt they have a resend feature (could be some of the later ed.)? Or am I wrong and it was a feature on 6.1? If it was on 6.1 you could still use it for just that by switching off treaded view.

I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?

yeahmanitsme said:
I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?
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Ok hold on, will make a cab for you.

Enjoy !
Raiisak`s En/Disable Treaded SMS

Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!

yeahmanitsme said:
Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!
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Reason I made the cab was to simply add on/off the treaded sms whitout making any change to the notification status for you by simply create this DWORD in youre reg:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:00000000
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Arcsoft_MMS 5_0_31_81 w/ treaded ON had the function to ask if you wanted to resend sms/mms if failed. Try to install that and run my cab and see if the red text comes up comes if the sms fails to send. Chance are that this will solve much of youre problem, other than that I would recomend to try another radio if you have severe signal issues

Sorry for the stupid question but um when you say new radio... You mean....?

If you use custom rom they come whit variouse radio, not always will the given radio work smoothly in youre country and phone. I would read up on this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 and also the OP of the used rom to see if there is any recomended radio for youre phone or country. If none found I would ask in that tread. GL

Is there any way to auto resend a failed message? either for a certain time or an X amount of resends?. My phone constantly goes in and out of service. I dont want to have to keep my phone in my hand waiting for service to kick in then resend.

SMS errors when responding from manila 2.1

This is in the rom section because it is a rom related issue.
using both dutty's 3.4 and 6.5 R1, and also topix with manila 2.1 I get an immediate response with an "InvalidPduContent" error when i try to respond to a message via the manila threaded sms. i can send messages from standard winmo sms.
I have AT&T. I get the same error on both the Telstra T8285 and the T8282. I looked into the error futher and it seems it can be a problem with the following:
"to" field is being interpreted wrong. when i send a message to someone via manila, i check the "sent items" folder and the to field looks like this:
"Last, First" <14405551212>
the above is the only format that fails.
if i send a new message via manila (no existing conversation), it only shows the person's number in the To field like this:
(440) 555-1212
using default winmo sms it looks like this:
Last, First
has anyone found a solution to this issue other than disabling the manila sms portion? Hopefully this sheds some new light on the situation

I have the same issue. I dont know what is causing it but hopefully someone will fix it. I prefer using the manila for sms as it's alot nicer but for now it's back to the old, ah well...
I see what you mean as well with the incorrect format issue. It is appearing, on face value, to be interpreted as an email address not a phone number. If you get on e of the failed messages and click on the name that's what it's coming back with but the messages that went through ok when the number is clicked it goes straight to the Manila contact.

its a bug in the manila,newer versions works perfect,bud if someone know a solution,i have the same issue...

I had this problem also, then flashed Lost In Asia, v4 (v5 now) and had no problems. The fact that when you clicked to reply to a message, by default goes to the new manila sms system meant that these roms weren't an option for me. Try Lost In Asia if you have time, see if it solves your problem.

I had a Italian ROM (NextGen 1.7) and I no have this problem.

does nobody have a solution for this please

Some User Set Their SMS Sending Option To GSM , And The SMS Bug FIX For Them , Try This .

This is also being discussed in Dutty 3.6 thread. He gathered some information about provider, country etc.
It seems that T-Mobile and Orange suffer the most from this problem.
One solution could be that you add +AREACODE to the contact.
Dutty's V3.7 will be online soon and contain a small updated Manila. Have to see if this still has the same problem.

i work with topix 2.0 rc1 and have the sms issue,yesterday i have unlocked my hd with olipro tool,with the sms issue i can't send whitin manila and can't send to special numbers like the radio etc...
today i tryed again and the sms issue is completly gone!i dont understand bud maybe someone does?
is it because of the radio?the sim unlock or security,cid,i dont know.
maybe this info will help to solve the issue.

Been discussed in great detail on Duttys thread and it appears to be a mixture of unicode, location and carrier. However it has also been fixed on Duttys latest rom V3.7

WM 6.5 and SMS List

From when I've installed WM 6.5 (all cooked ROMs) I've got a problem reading SMS.
To read an SMS I do following actions:
- enter SMS List
- select a sender from SMS List (Threaded active)
- read the message
- return to SMS List
and many times the Experia froozen itself for 5/7 minutes when I do last point...
From TaskManager I've got running just this programs/services:
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filesys.exe 24MB
gwes.exe 8MB
shell32.exe 7MB
device.exe 5MB
Biotouch.exe 5MB
services.exe 3MB
cprog.exe 1MB
connmgr.exe 300Kb
NK.EXE 16Kb
I've tested all WM 6.5 ROMs in this forum. Currently I've installed "WM 6.5 Jack Lite": just Windows without any program or customization. Windows is 5.2.23025 (Build 23016.5.3.0).
I've got 8000 SMS managed in Threaded View (in SMS List). Can be this? Original ROM (WM 6.1) don't have any problem to manage 8000 SMS in Threaded View....
Someone have a trick or can confirm this specified problem?

8000 sms
woooow

yeah, 8000 SMS but I think WM 6.5 can freeze either at 500 or less...

I only gets around 200 sms in 1 threaded sms .. the WM 6.5 also froze on me too
I'm using Valkyrie FS 3.0 (not the LEO)

its seems to be a WM6.5 problem, not depending from the ROM you still using.

WM 6.5 build 23071 seems to have fixed this problem.
I've passed directly to 23071 from 23016 so I'm not able to say if some release beteween those two has same problem as 23016.

Well, I've got someting like this aswell, but not really freezing.
When I'm about so write an sms I go to the sms list, pich my contact and the list opens up (threaded) but from the point where this list pops up it takes a really long time before I can even start typing, I think it's loading the sms-list still. Have about 100~ sms with this contact where I get the issue.
Still I want to keep the messages since I need them later on, and I use the Leo sms client (latest).
Does anyone know how to fix this, or make the messages store someplace else so the client just loads like the past 3 messages?
Thanks in advance, Anton.

Hi,
I´m also having big trouble with the sms function.
I think (I might be wrong) that the problem is LEO. I used PIM restore to import my old sms and it simply doesn´t import it right in the database.
if I enter the sms program via HTC Sence (pressing an sms), it actually works, but it loads all sms from the contact everytime, which means it takes forever if it is a frequent sms conversation.
If I enter the sms program via titanium, it either doesn´t show the messages, or it sorts the messages by name/contact rather than by time, which means all messages from "me" ends up either first or last in the thread.
However, the valkyrie firestorm ROM works with pim (at least for me) after a second reset. Flash it, do the regional settings etc, do pim restore and then soft reset.
I haven´t tried myphone backup.
fugatto

@Fugatto: to restore with PIMBackup you need thoose actions:
1) disable ThreadedSMS with appropriate Registry Key or some program (need reboot)
2) restore PIMBackup file
3) after imported all SMS you can re-active ThreadedSMS (need reboot)
4) open SMS List and wait SMS be ordered by contact (for 10.000 SMS I need to wait 4-5 hours)

Warning: No Fingers were hurt in the making of these 8000 SMS