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hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance
scorpio2008 said:
hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance
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This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..
FalkenX said:
This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..
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Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.
reborg said:
Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.
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Drivers and specs? Dude, please learn something about Andriod, its totally different as WM, so with a driver or some tweaks it is impossible to run on a WM phone, you would have to rebuild the whole os which isnt an opperation similar to cooking a rom..
have a read in the android dev forums. I think the SPL is different, but may be wrong. So i don't think it's as simple as just using an nbh (which is a pity).. The g1 is also a HTC device.. some of the guys on the G1 forums would explain exactly whether it was possible or not..
However there is continual development on building android for current devices, including a thread in this very forum.. See Xmoo for details..
Yeah, emulating another up-to-date OS...just think of all the the 15years old gameboy and NES-games that are still slow when they are emulated under Windows Mobile.
The only possibility would be to not emulate Android but boot it instead of Windows Mobile...but I don't think the hardware is built for this so you won't get everything to work as it's meant to be.
By the way...Android is ugly in my opinion.
i think it must be possible.....
cause the Magic has the same chipset like touch HD and so the hardware should be very similar.....
i know a guy who was flashing a symbian OS on an Sony ericsson W810i and it runs..... extremely slow but it runs.
i think the only thing would be the different display resolution...... and some driver things but i have no skills in programmng so dont ask me xD
Err...........
It is possible and even i the case of Vogue CDMA, most functions are working
Diamond and Raphael has managed to boot Android 1.0 and even get the radio working (though no bluetooth, wifi, 3G nor sound yet) so sending SMSs is possible and so is making calls, though you can't hear anything because there is no sound yet.
Blackstone also recently managed to fix the screen issue...
I'm sure there are more projects going on, but it's definitly possible to run Android on WM devices
Well I've got 1.0 booting on the x1.. Unfortunately I havent got the touchscreen working just yet... the onscreen keyboard does, not the screen.
I will work on it when I get a chance, but my linux box is at work, so experimenting is best when I get a chance there.
Screen colours are perfect, the screens still upside down though..
I'm still learning about how this works, but I'm learning quickly..
as to the talk of emulators, this isn't emulation..
Alright people, after some litle research, i have found out that Android currently boots on HTC Touch Cruise ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LYnTxhj44 ). HTC Touch Cruise is using the same processor as the HTC Touch 3G, Qualcomm MSM7225. So is there a way we can port the version from Polaris to Jade ?
C'mon people, lets start a project, as i see many PDAs out there can now successfully boot Android, lets not leave out our wonderful Jade...
WE WANT ANDROID !
Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.
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Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.
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hhmmmm...i see, didnt realise that there was a previous version. But c'mon, no one knows how to port android to MSM7225 ?
HTC tattoo
I am also looking for ages for some android port to the MSM 7225. Now, finally, an android device similar to the Jade is coming out before october!!
And for all the people saying 320x240 is too small for android, well, the Tattoo seems to do fine with that..
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/htc-tattoo-aka-click-brings-android-sense-ui-to-all/
Now we just have to wait for someone porting that android ROM to Jade..
help?
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oh and here's already the HTC official site! http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html
At least android for msm7225
now it seems almost sure that at some time we will have the opportunity to run android in our phones.
oooh I CANT WAIT !
Definitely count me in as a tester !
Yeah, it will run on 320x240. But as far as I know most apps are designed for higher resolutions. So it won't be really useful.
It seems that HTC is releasing a new device based on the same processor as our jade, with Android and 2.8 screen, HTC Tattoo. Maybe there is still a hope on seeing a port to Jade
Hello ,
Have You news of this possibility "Android for HTC Jade"?
I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!
i really hope so too, cant wait to play around with android on it !
@StewieTux
hi
u really have a point here yes our phone isnt popular and for ur info
ppc geek does not have a forum for us and it has every other HTC phone old and new but not ours even after me asking so many time now i days i don't visit the site
so i really dought if well get android unless one of our great cooks decides to do some thing regarding the same
but count me in to test any ROM for our great jade i love this phone man
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I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!
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Yeah I'm afraid we just have to wait till the release of the tattoo , I lost hope for a quicker solution...
if it can work on gene why not jade
hi
see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692
haree said:
hi
see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692
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The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
Hi,
I was browsing around and found a new HTC phone with Andriod 1.5 (yet to be launched). The phone is called HTC Tattoo. Refer to the following link:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-2932.php
The hardware of this phone is almost similar to Jade ..... Same processor and screen resolution.
Look at the comparison below:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2526&idPhone1=2932
If Andriod 1.5 is possible in that phone, I am sure it can be ported to Jade. I am just wondering about the few more hardware buttons and higher ROM.
StewieTux said:
The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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Looking forward to test this and share my feeback
With pleasure, kindly count me on your testers list
[email protected]
hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
StewieTux said:
The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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haree said:
hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.
hi
buddy ur breaking my heart i really did think their will be a time when we will get to use Android now if the info u give is right them our chances look very very bleek
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.
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Anyone know of an WM6.5.3 ROM development for the Tattoo?
Its not even rooted properly yet, and thus no custom roms at all...
Btw why would you wanna use WM?
ebsbow said:
Anyone know of an WM6.5.3 ROM development for the Tattoo?
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Are you sure you're in the right forum ?
Why WM ? WHY!!??
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Are you sure you're in the right forum ?
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jejeej if it has not been achieved in this forum, I think that is not achieved in either ... I think the confusion is not a forum, could be the phone
Windows Mobile can't be ported on the Tattoo. And that's that. End of story.
Don't see why not.
WM on the Tattoo: The sequel..
Its an HTC device and uses mostly the same components as other models.
Porting isn't really what is needed here. Just need to get it to run.
That goes vice versa.
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Ah, you are an Mac user. Then this will be hard
my 2 cents:
If you wanted WM, you should had bought a Touch2.
That's the WM Tattoo cousin, with same specs and all...
Cheers
Why make windows 95/3.11 run on an mobile?
Why make Android run on other htc devices?
Why make linux run on other htc devices?
Why make WM run on the Tattoo?
Comm'n guy's don't be so reluctant, we are developers here.
i have seen on endgadget or gizmodo(i dont remembeer) few days a go a kirf of htc tatto running win mo 6.5.3
btw the specs of this litlle monster were not the same as the tattoo
here is the link
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/21/keepin-it-real-fake-part-ccliv-htc-tattoo-joins-the-winmo-gan/
cheers
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i have seen on endgadget or gizmodo(i dont remembeer) few days a go a kirf of htc tatto running win mo 6.5.3
btw the specs of this litlle monster were not the same as the tattoo
here is the link
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/21/keepin-it-real-fake-part-ccliv-htc-tattoo-joins-the-winmo-gan/
cheers
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:lol: That's awesome!
ebsbow said:
Don't see why not.
WM on the Tattoo: The sequel..
Its an HTC device and uses mostly the same components as other models.
Porting isn't really what is needed here. Just need to get it to run.
That goes vice versa.
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Ah, you are an Mac user. Then this will be hard
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wm on tattoo == a step backwards in technological advancement
that would be about the worthless thing that could happen to the tattoo
What technological advancement are you referring to..?
If you are referring to the fact that Android is Google,
then please enlighten us what so great that we need to
spare the Tattoo from Windows Mobile..
Developers are indiscriminate when it come to brand.
I have these devices because I love the hardware and we can
do stuff with it. We can develop, experiment, tool them and if done
right, make money on them.
Admire htc for developing these devices for us, not Google, MS or Apple.
Serioulsy, what the **** ?
You have an Open-source firmware on your phone, and you want to remplace it with a closed-source ?
You've a firmware totally independent of any firm, or society, and you want to remplace it with a totally-dependent-of-microsoft-firmware ?
You are root on your phone, and you want to change for a phone on wich you are just a user ?
Seriously !
I think I understand what ebsbow is trying to explain to us. IMO, as long as it is for development purpose only, then I can agree. But I don't feel that WM can be fully implemented on the Tattoo, and don't think it'll be suitable for day-to-day use.
I think ebsbow got a point here. This is a dev site, not a fanboy site which support the back of a specific os just because it is better (according to some). If there is a way to implement windows mobile on the tattoo, then why not? Where is the harm in that? You dont like it, then dont use it. Itll be just a break through.
If you happen to hate a specific os, it is just a personal opinion. Just hold back from clicking on the forum. Xda dev is about development, not about refraining development just because some dont like the direction in which it is pointing.
But for now I think that porting windows mobile to the tattoo is far away. We are still in a very undeveloped stage of getting root. And also, thanks to all the devs who invested their spare time in this, a huge work has been done. Lets just hope that we soon get a stable state of root which doesnt get lost on reboot and that give us true root capabilities.
I don't think the stock Tattoo having root has anything to do with installing a new OS. Then again, I ain't a developer, and I don't know **** about developing WM for an officially unsupported device.
Of course mate. I just meant that the devs have their plate full right now
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Of course mate. I just meant that the devs have their plate full right now
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Okay, I'll release my windows mobile curse and admit that I do have some thoughts into Windows Mobile on the tattoo:
To be honest, Windows Mobile could be ported to the Tattoo/Click. WM could live on a SD Card, and the bootloader (HardSPL?) bootstraps the code from the SDCard to boot the WM environment or have a boot menu saying "Press Left to boot Android 1.6/2.x or right to boot Windows Mobile 5/6/7"
However, you'll face these problems:
1. Driver Support, you'd have to hack WM extensively to get support for phone and related components unless the drivers could be ported from the Touch/Touch2.
2. Not a native WM device. This could lead to Windows Mobile crying it's eyes out when the device crashes. "Mummy, I want my device rebooted". (lol bad joke, but hey )
3. Apps. Would they support the Tattoo's screen res? Parts could be missing off the screen and whatnot.
4. SD Card wear and tear. Could WM burn that MicroSD card up if you use it extensively? Windows can really tear up a SSD HDD if you abuse it, but a MicroSD has a tiny chip that runs the show.
5. Who's gonna support you when your WM/Android hybrid phone blows up and you need a replacement, and HTC rejects it due to "unsupported mods"?
Anyway, that's my few cents. I hope this helps you WM fangirls/fanboys.
Here is some progression on the htc Niki::
[23 FEB] Android Eclair 2.1 for HTC Niki - Work still in progress:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637586
[APP][04FEB10]Gen.Y DualBOOT v1.0.5.0[W|Q|VGA][CAB|EXT]:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
[18 FEB] New Android on HTC Touch-Dual *NIKI* --UPDATED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634572
What do you guys think? Do you wanna have a Android ROM, and please tell why.
wesjeex3 said:
What do you guys think? Do you wanna have a Android ROM, and please tell why.
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Because in can make this phone useable...
Yes, because I would like to have a smooth operating system.
+1 to the idea but i think the problems with backlight should be top priority
Not yet, because many things are not working and for example now you can restart device and use WM for gps. This would not be possible with rom.
But when most things are sorted out, ROM would be a great option.
I agree with you matejdro, android is working okay now but not good enough. A couple of things aren't working which are important to use.
i think before a ROM can even be considered, android needs to be able to recognise all hardware and then it needs to be able to work with all hardware. once android is at this stage, it could then be made into a ROM.
Nice system to use and two xperia one with wm one with Android, but too manny issue yet
Yes, I would very much like to see an Android ROM for the Xperia, for the following reasons:
1. I don't like WinMo that much, and I would be happy to replace it on my Xperia altogether in favor of my favorite OS.
2. It's over a year since I last used the Xperia as my main device, and I mainly use it for experimentation now, so I wouldn't mind an Android ROM even if the port still is a bit buggy.
3. You wouldn't have to launch Haret in order to run it.
4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you launch Android through Haret, it isn't run concurrently with Windows Mobile, right? But still, having a dedicated ROM ought to speed up Android a bit, when it's not launched through WinMo.
5. The internal storage is faster than memory cards, so that would speed up things a bit as well.
I'm really looking forward to an Android ROM, just wish I could do more to help making it
Thanks
Yes, but, it is needed a working screen light/bluetooth/gps/headphones
it is still not working in android.
But, i wouldn't rewrite ROM to android. For me is better to use heater.exe. 2 minutes(just like windows) and android is ready!
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Yes, but, it is needed a working screen light/bluetooth/gps/headphones
it is still not working in android.
But, i wouldn't rewrite ROM to android. For me is better to use heater.exe. 2 minutes(just like windows) and android is ready!
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u mean HaRET not heater right? xD
indy.89 said:
i think before a ROM can even be considered, android needs to be able to recognise all hardware and then it needs to be able to work with all hardware. once android is at this stage, it could then be made into a ROM.
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but before making a ROM every thing wud e fixed then only a ROM can be made out of it not before fixing every thing
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but before making a ROM every thing wud e fixed then only a ROM can be made out of it not before fixing every thing
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thats not true, you could probably make a ROM out of android as it is now, you just wouldnt have windows mobile to fall back on, and your battery would drain instantly!
Yes, but ill wait till all things will be fixed.
Xperia is the perfect phone for android rom.
The disign and construction is thinner and most elegant than any other android phone, even nexus....
I can donate for working rom, and also be an betta tester.
+1
Yeah I would really like to have an Android rom for my Xperia. There are no good phones with qwerty keyboards on Android. Couple of HTC phones have keyboard and Android on them, but their hardware is not impressive at all.
I might be getting a Xperia X10 soon, but it doesn't have a keyboard. I find keyboard is important for me, but there is no point in buying phones like HTC hero as I have X1.
As long as Samsung S pro doesn't comes out I would love have an Android ROM on my X1.
rom instead of windows
it would be nice to see it in reverse, android rom working as main boot and run windows on sd card
so if you need to have gps, or send mms (TP2 you cant) so if you can here I did not say a thing.
anyways whatever is not working and you really really need to use it then boot winmobile.
+1 on beta test. I do not have a gsm carrier, but if selected I will go and buy a prepaid sim or just pay month to month on the new tmobile plan
pm me thanks
but to answer your question why a rom, the battery is a drain huge. and just love to show it to the others "Droid" users, what their device CAN'T
I WANA HAVE IT I WANNA HAVE IT!!!!
But i WAnt to have the HERO interface on my X1..i really really like Hero...
circleofomega said:
I WANA HAVE IT I WANNA HAVE IT!!!!
But i WAnt to have the HERO interface on my X1..i really really like Hero...
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HERO INTERFACE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021
dexteral said:
HERO INTERFACE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021
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This didnt work for me :S
It booted but was stuck on the HTC Hero boot-up screen... Then it looped repeatedly...
Any help?
Hi folks,
I know this question has been asked before, and the topic discussed, by I couldn't find any current threads/posts about it. My question is: now that Android on the X1 is fairly stable, will there soon be an Android ROM that replaces WinMo altogether?
I would very much enjoy that, and I think other people would as well. There are Android ROMs for a few WinMo devices, so it can be done, although I'm not familiar with the specifics myself.
A big thanks to everybody involved in developing Android for the X1. The only reason I'm keeping my copy is to one day use it as an extra Android device
Cheers
android on Х1 is fun, no more ... I do not think that you need a full ROM, enough Haret
All Android builds released by now use the HaRET launcher and are getting more stable, faster and better looking. There are some devs working on NAND flashing to completely replace WM. This can be done with TinBoot and magldr (not released yet). Just wait for the devs, they are working on it.
I think I'mma keep my x1 for 2 more years if I can have a niceworking android ROM on it! I'm going to learn how to help for it when I have time because I love it, plus I think i'll start to cook a WM rom because I want a simple and fast one =)
+1
i'm waiting for a real android rom for my X1.
i'm feedup with Winmo
i do not think you could enjoy android from nand.... ok, its running, but not stable! there is much work to do! but there are not much devs working on x1 right now. now 2 years left since the X1 was released. the devs have a working set of files to run android, but without the option to reset/change to a new version the releases are not stable now.
you have to wait... dont know if this would ever happen....
Not anytime soon. Or maybe even never.
There are Android ROMs for a few WinMo devices, so it can be done
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Can you be more specific? I can't find device that have public release with NAND Android.
EDIT: Ah i see, Tinboot can boot from NAND on TyTN II. But as i see, these builds are far from perfect. Even WiFi won't work there.
As for X1, AFAIK there were some attempts, but even screen was not working there.
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Can you be more specific? I can't find device that have public release with NAND Android.
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I was thinking of the HTC Vogue specifically. Check out this Wired article:
DIYers Hack Windows Mobile Phones to Run Android
DillonDarko said:
All Android builds released by now use the HaRET launcher and are getting more stable, faster and better looking. There are some devs working on NAND flashing to completely replace WM. This can be done with TinBoot and magldr (not released yet). Just wait for the devs, they are working on it.
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Sounds great, hope you're right I don't care if Android doesn't run flawlessly and if things are missing. I'm never going to use my X1 as a WinMo device again anyway, I just want to run Android on it - even if it works so-so.
Does anyone know about the progress of an Android ROM for the X1? Are the wonderful devs still working on it..?
Cheers
we making nand boot rom
its rom without wm and autoboot android from sd
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That's great news, thanks for replying!
this is also the only reason i still come to x1 forum a lot.
but i doubt it will ever happen
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booting Android
Hi all,
maybe is this nog usefull or not the right place, but if you want to boot android on your X1, you can make a shortcut in the windows startup folder to haret.exe
when you start your X1, Android will start immediately. maybe this is helpfull for someone who doens't now before.
grtz.
(sry for my english)
Judging by the very few developers for X1 left, I don't think that is going to happen.
Thanks for the tip, polcomp
I do believe that there will be an Android ROM, actually. It seems like they're still making a lot of progress.