KEEP THE GOOD IDEAS FLOWING!!!! Aug 23,2009
There are a lot of awesome Ideas in this thread.... We will try to apease everyone, I know we wont, but we will try!
We are going to build a ROM for the users. About the only thing that will be in this ROM that WE want, is maybe the loader... lol Maybe you like something I dont, I will still add it for you. If I like something you dont, I will make that uninstallable... or leave it out and I will install it after the fact...
Ok, so we have gotten a lot of requests for these ROMS,
just to let you know we are HARD at work on this and we will keep the thread updated of the progress.....
Keep the ideas coming, dont keep that million $ idea to yourself! post away!
cdguider and I would like to know:
what is your idea of a perfect ROM? ( so to speak)
What would you like in the ROM? stripped or packed?
What programs would you like to see?
What is most important to you?
let us know!
We are going to start working on a ROM straight from USER requests!
Rom base personally would be 6.1 but i dont mind 6.5
Manila 2.6
light tweaks to performance and personalization
Like SlimSuse Said
Reserved - Tell us what you want.
how about a version for both?
wez89 said:
Rom base personally would be 6.1 but i dont mind 6.5
Manila 2.6
light tweaks to performance and personalization
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we can work on a mirrored version for both 6.5 and 6.1~
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we can work on a mirrored version for both 6.5 and 6.1~
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Best of both worlds, this way people have a choice..yeah i like this idea
google maps and bing
auto rotate on home screen like calender and photos
wez89 said:
Best of both worlds, this way people have a choice..yeah i like this idea
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its always about choice!!
we are crackin away at it now!!
whew, i am starting to sweat now!! HAHAH
combat goofwing said:
google maps and bing
auto rotate on home screen like calender and photos
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I like that Idea... make it so it auto rotates without having to slide out the screen...
good idea!!
not to sure about bing tho.... we will see how many want it!
cdguider, start a poll in here see how many want what search engine and how many either want or dont want PIE at all ....
Bing is oright, I think we should include it
I like bing, Someone needs to get me Coffee, We are going to put our Blood and Sweat into these Roms, When it is done. You will have the best of both worlds.
"There are those who said this day will never come, what are they to say now"
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I like bing, Someone needs to get me Coffee, We are going to put our Blood and Sweat into these Roms, When it is done. You will have the best of both worlds.
"There are those who said this day will never come, what are they to say now"
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LOL major coffee, IV drip if possible!! HAH
slimsuse said:
I like that Idea... make it so it auto rotates without having to slide out the screen...
good idea!!
not to sure about bing tho.... we will see how many want it!
cdguider, start a poll in here see how many want what search engine and how many either want or dont want PIE at all ....
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the auto rate reg hack worked with the stock rom, but doesnt work with the energy rom
Opera 9.7 beta?
WLM
WMP
Facebook app
Office
Advanced config
Audio booster
youtube app
total commander
FM radio
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Opera 9.7 beta?
WLM
WMP
Facebook app
Office
Advanced config
Audio booster
youtube app
total commander
FM radio
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yep.... those are a given... good suggestions!! keep em comin!!
I would want everything that is already posted and will be posted. BUT be able to just remove what I don't want.
Here i go, ambitious but realisable :
Almost stock WM 6.1/6.5 ROM without unessential features like unwanted pictures and sounds, TOP 10 ringtones and alarm songs elected by users via Poll.
Customization applied to that stock ROM elected by Users Via Poll, maybe two versions made : BLACK and COLOURFUL (just to make sure everyone is glad )
ESSENTIAL tweaks and registry improvements such as Page pool and such.
About the APPS, that's a tricky matter because here in the XDA community, we have three categories of users (I can tell, I am on the forum since 2006 but not with this account) : Power Users, who don't especially need a business phone BUT a state of the art High Quality product (that would be me), Business Users who are looking for quick functionality, connectivity and Crackberry for some , Everyday Users, looking for close to stock rom with a few built in programs to fit their needs.
SO, my advice, install of the compulsory programms such as Facebook Live Messenger and such BUT make available all the programs which might be useful to the three categories in the ROM's Thread divided in the Categories stated above. This woulg be as close as we can get to a personalized ROM for everyone.
My 2cent
PS : Sorry if my english is weird or something I'm French
My personal preferences:
Clean 6.5 ROM with
- max performance tweaks
- max possible battery life w/out losing perf
- some eye candy
some most obvious additions like 1% battery meter, reset and so on
Additional soft package (so the ROM doesn't get old when new soft gets released)
manila 2.6
radio
voice recorder
latest opera
total commander
office
screen rotation via g-sensor AND softkey
RAM cleaner
advanced config
enhanced comm manager
google maps
PDF reader
WMP
more to come...
Bluetooth Stack
Another (compatible) Bluetooth-Stack would be nice. I miss the voice-dialing-feature via Headset.
Gerhard
GRLW said:
Another (compatible) Bluetooth-Stack would be nice. I miss the voice-dialing-feature via Headset.
Gerhard
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that would b a big one! i will work on that, and all the other requests. keep in mind, we cant please all, but we sure will try.!!
how about the ability to uninstall all the stuff you dont like?
"how about the ability to uninstall all the stuff you dont like? "
second that
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Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
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Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
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Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
ttran001 said:
Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
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Well, my ROM was pretty basic.
For this one, I want everyone to have a say, and I want to try to make it different. It's not like it's going to come out soon, but I just want to get the idea of things. So basically, it's undecided right now.
How bout something Totally Different?
Just a thought.
How about a total vista rom. From the splash screens to Today and system Icons -- totally vista orbs and icons. Not a big fan of vista but the interface is really nice. I won't use the word pretty.
Built on WM6.1 with the latest radio rom. Glossy black bars. Even the animated orb at boot up. ????
Just a thought. Bet it would be popular.
yeaa do what zcinc said...and make it almost like a tablet pc if possible..make it as close to the pc experience as possible...i no u can do it..
Yeah, from my experience most people either way as much speed and space as possible ( blank rom like ur 1st ) or EyE Candy (Vista Release perhaps ?
mac anyone?
full mac ui for us mac lovers, and I don't mean iphone-blah.
would be nice to see a mac flavored rom -- =)
One thing i'd like to see and i don't hope is a spanish rom... i'd tried to make it myself and didn't do a great job exactly... i'll try another time, maybe.
This isn't a suggestion, i understand there's no interest in making one, just a loud-voice-thought.
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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This looks like something to be included with my next release...lol
papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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Ohh... pretty... Interesting tidbit of information: One of my original cleanROM themes was a vista themed everything. But this is prettier.
I might include it as part of the kitchen I may or may not be releasing this week...
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This is something like what I was thinking for the boot end:
***really awesome animated splash screen included in the .zip file .............
also, I have tons of icons and system files for the Vista look, extracted from wisebar themes. let me know if you want them for cooking.
Also, if someone can figure out this whole orb replacing the flag thing, they would be a ****en Genius.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342077
I just downloaded a Kitchen today. Going to try my hand at cooking. I may or may never come up with a rom but I will try. Totally lost at this point but I will learn.
How about a 6.1 that has MMS working
umchriswho said:
I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
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Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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1. Paging file?
2. EV-DO? I'm gessing you don't have a herald. hehe -Turn off automatic Mail Push, though, and it should stay off. (Also turn off anything automatic, time and all.)
NotShorty said:
Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
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hmm... sounds like my preference in ROMs... I may or may not release something this week that may fix this for you...
I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.
1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had
gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time
achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.
Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.
I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.
I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.
I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone
As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.
basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)
I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!
You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.
Welcome to Touch-IT Leo v11
I am removing my roms due to conflicts with certain members at xda, this looks like it cant be solved in normal ways. And because I do not want anymore of the bickering and fighting, I am pulling my work from XDA and all support is moved to you know where. I cant even mention that name anymore here.
Sorry to see this happen here, where I have learned so much, and met so many wonderful ppl.
I'd really like to try this rom except that there is no landscape support.. that kinda ruined it for me.
Do you know if you might make a similar rom (including twitter and footprints), with landscape support?
- Chainy
I'll reply on itje's behalf: NO!
See, the thing is that LEO doesn't have landscape. It's not created yet, it doesn't exist yet, it's not available yet. Buy hopefully it will be by the end of the year? Blame it on HTC
I don't think I'm going to use this just yet, but very very nice. Love the twitter tab.
Does it still use the vulcan (X2) drivers?
actually, i will prefer facebook tab more..
nice rom anyway, itje, thx
no landscape?
maybe it's time to write down what "no landscape-support" actually means in daily use:
landscape is working fine in windows itself (settings etc) and
in standalone-apps (opera, skype, whatever...).
it is not implemented into manila by htc yet, so if you slide the keyb out on let's say home-screen, you'll just see a black background.
but:
in manila, landscape is working in:
- writing messages (sms, mail) - you can write with your hw-keyb
- viewing pictures in album
- playing videos in album
i think the fact "no landscape" sounds worse than it actually is. of course it would be nice to have it, but during daily use it's lack is hardly noticable.
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maybe it's time to write down what "no landscape-support" actually means in daily use:
landscape is working fine in windows itself (settings etc) and
in standalone-apps (opera, skype, whatever...).
it is not implemented into manila by htc yet, so if you slide the keyb out on let's say home-screen, you'll just see a black background.
but:
in manila, landscape is working in:
- writing messages (sms, mail) - you can write with your hw-keyb
- viewing pictures in album
- playing videos in album
i think the fact "no landscape" sounds worse than it actually is. of course it would be nice to have it, but during daily use it's lack is hardly noticable.
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I agree..
I really dont see the big fuzz about it
caliban2 said:
maybe it's time to write down what "no landscape-support" actually means in daily use:
landscape is working fine in windows itself (settings etc) and
in standalone-apps (opera, skype, whatever...).
it is not implemented into manila by htc yet, so if you slide the keyb out on let's say home-screen, you'll just see a black background.
but:
in manila, landscape is working in:
- writing messages (sms, mail) - you can write with your hw-keyb
- viewing pictures in album
- playing videos in album
i think the fact "no landscape" sounds worse than it actually is. of course it would be nice to have it, but during daily use it's lack is hardly noticable.
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I second that. Nice ROM (again!)
suggestions
1. Rostrain claims to have 100% landscape working in his ROMs (something to do with his g-spot! "g-spot mod is a button.when u press it it executes scripts that only a gsensor does..so we have the landscape that only gsensor phones have!")... I have no idea.
2. Is it possible to have 4 icon column menus in your roms please (takes too long to scroll all the way to the bottom).
3. Is it possible to have a scroll bar in the menus (again quicker to scroll to the bottom and also so you know where you are in the menu)
Many thanks for your time.
rawr... itje is always full of surprises... am gonna wait for this cool rom!!
wow... ! just need landscape
Looking forward to this ROM. Should be good ^^
WinMo 6.5 is slowly growing on me. Just as long as it's quite fast and smooth.
AbuGWM5 said:
1. Rostrain claims to have 100% landscape working in his ROMs (something to do with his g-spot! "g-spot mod is a button.when u press it it executes scripts that only a gsensor does..so we have the landscape that only gsensor phones have!")... I have no idea.
2. Is it possible to have 4 icon column menus in your roms please (takes too long to scroll all the way to the bottom).
3. Is it possible to have a scroll bar in the menus (again quicker to scroll to the bottom and also so you know where you are in the menu)
Many thanks for your time.
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1. Rotastrain has modded the manila version he has..so if that is wanted/needed..get a cab for it..I do not like making roms with to much "modding" I prefer to keep it as close to original as possible. Its easier to keep track of bugs from HTC..if I should not keep track of other ppls bugs coming with the mods aswell
2. No, I make the roms the way I like it, and that will not change. Also.. I dont enjoy the 4 column way, and neither do I like to many folders...
3. No, not possible
itje said:
1. Rotastrain has modded the manila version he has..so if that is wanted/needed..get a cab for it..I do not like making roms with to much "modding" I prefer to keep it as close to original as possible. Its easier to keep track of bugs from HTC..if I should not keep track of other ppls bugs coming with the mods aswell
2. No, I make the roms the way I like it, and that will not change. Also.. I dont enjoy the 4 column way, and neither do I like to many folders...
3. No, not possible
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I like your ROM because you keep it as close to original as possible.
Thanks in advance.
rom(s) up now
two versions
build 23016 and build 23053
have fun
itje said:
rom(s) up now
two versions
build 23016 and build 23053
have fun
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Bravo.... i hate the new versions with the start button at the bottom
which one has the new start bttons and which doesnt? ive fallen behind with winmo builds
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which one has the new start bttons and which doesnt? ive fallen behind with winmo builds
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23053 -> new start button at the bottom
23016 -> old start button
One question - is mms working? I ask that because i have problems in some ROMs with Manilla 2.5....
Hello everyone,
OK, here is my first go at ROM cooking.
I was looking for a very basic ROM with only must-have applications inside, so that I can later install the software I *do* use. Eventually I gave up, as all the ROMs and even the Lite'est ones had too much features / utilities. I thought I would then take the latest official ROM available (for stability purpose) and trim it down to minimum elements (for size reduction).
Herewith is what I ended up with:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3829100....25.91_Signed_Ship_trimmed_by_aziraphale_.rar
This in no way can be called a "cooked" ROM, I still know nothing about cooking, but it is a heavily trimmed stock ROM, created by the use of RhodiumKitchen_0.1, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519.
Thanks Dave for this Tutorial and all the credits go to respective tools' developers.
How to install:
- unrar
- connect with ActiveSync (or loader in USB mode)
(goes without saying Your device must be Hard-SPL'd or modified any other way to allow ROM flashing - search the forum)
- execute RomUpdateUtility.exe
There are some residual unnecessary and/or invalid shortcuts in the Start Menu,
as well as some empty folders, I manually removed them by the use of EveryWAN personal edition - it's free and it's easy to use.
The OS is 6.5 b21887
I have trimmed the following from the stock ROM:
HTC applications:
- appointment editor
- clear storage (can do Hard reset in normal way)
- facebook / engine
- format SD (can't a PC do that?)
- CoPilot + install path folder (I use TomTom)
- birthday
- bookmark
- messaging client (hate it)
- jblend
- jetcet
- manila all
- opera (when You install newer version You end up with 2 )
- sliding sounds
- social networks engine
- streaming media
- tv out
- youtube
- volume control
- google maps (same as with opera)
- setting improvement
- text selection
- wifi wizard
- browser snapshot
- ie6 enhancement
- world card mobile (BCR)
- rss hub
System:
- live search
- wm widgets
- win live
- welcome center
- transcriber
- skymarket
- one note
- remote desktop
- themes except Rock and Republic
- my phone (skybox)
- livesearch
I do not expect this to become very useful to most of the forum visitors/members, but perhaps there is someone out there who have not found his/her way around to make ROMs him(her)self yet, but would like to get the very basic ROM with no extras.
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
mccune said:
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
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You said it yourself - the "must-have" are the ones that can not be added by .cabs and will compromise phone functionality (like the HTC dialer skin will enable video calls, thus must stay)
mccune said:
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
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the "2.07.401.1" implies 6.5, but added to description anyway, thanks
Good effort dude I did much the same a month or so ago with an amalgamation of Ervius Visual Kitchen (so easy) and JoshKoss kitchen. Didn't go as savage on the removal of stuff though, main objective was to get rid of the HTC Messaging
Just tried May 1st 23xxx EnergyROM with MaxManila but it cuts off MP3 playback in standby (a big no-no for me) and hung once already while texting MaxManila is nice though, and the Facebook tab is good. I usually stick to 21xxx but I must say 23xxx is growing on me with the latest build. Gonna try Cell Pro next.
I like the latest stuff but keeping up with it all is a nightmare if you're cooking. Wouldn't mind the latest 2.5 Manila packages and latest 21xxx / 23xxx SYS, also would try cooking in MaxManila, and I never managed to cook in "mark all as read" for emails properly. Need to learn how to hack on Manila. Also I forgot to cook in a task manager haha Ameba is quite nice on the latest EnergyROM. I definitely get the "why cook it in if you can get it from Marketplace / OMarket and auto update it" though, totally with you on that one instead of flashing a new ROM every week. I usually flash a new one every month or so, once I find one I like. But for the last month or so I've been running my own. It wasn't the fastest ROM ever though
It's a lot of work to make a decent ROM, and it's finding the time innit. I'm a big fan of JoshKoss but he hasn't released anything in a while
Anyway good effort dude the more the merrier I say
Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" (read: respect, not sarcasm) cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras. I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either. Hence was this ROM done and I am so far rather happy with it.
There is no sign of HTC messaging which I can find, and I can install and use only necessary (for me) bits of software.
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras.
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Yeah me too, those guys have spent probably 100's if not 1000's of hours on learning this stuff, then putting it together in a manner that pleases a lot of different people. Major kudos. I sometimes get the feeling though particularly with chefs who release almost every day, for a number of different devices, that the care and testing leaves something to be desired. Quite often more does not = better as you know
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I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either.
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Yeah fair enough mate although I am a big fan of Manila 2.5 and MaxManila is quite nice
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For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
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Yeah I tried converting that to an EXT and cooking it in but it didn't work I know it can be done though cos a lot of ROMs have it built in. To be honest I don't really have enough time anymore to dedicate to my own ROM so I'm trying out a few others.
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Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
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It's weird ... Mine's never hung while running but I've had the SOD two or three times. More research required, until then just stick the pen up it's arse haha
Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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i'd love to, but....
as i said i am no cook and i only did it for myself and cared enough to share with anyone who'd love to have it "as is".
also, see the respective later-release ROM threads to see how many bugs are there still and ROM-cooking gurus are eliminating them one by one and it's a long and painstaking process. i have neither time, nor ability to do that.
so i guess this is as much as i can do so far.
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
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I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
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very good!
Well I think I have ran the gamet of tezts and this ROM is perfect. It is fast and stable trimmed down well but still offering everything a user needs. I am on AT&T in the states and it works perfect. The only thing I cant figure out is how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board? And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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...how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board?
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that would be by manually editing registry key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"ApVibrationOn"=dword:00000000
it is 1 by default, change it to 0 and you are all set
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And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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this here i am not sure what you mean?
whatever you add (install) SHOULD function properly, if it would have on a stock ROM,
as i have not made any changes to remaining ROM bits
edit: if you open Albums and select any picture You want, it will open in full screen, tap it, and 4 icon menu comes up, 3rd from the left with 2 arrows > tap this one and there is an option *mail*.
select the account (i would use email) and voila! is that what you were looking for?
Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
Maybe this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624375
With these settings from the same thread.
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
Port:80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: Media Net
Send Limit: 300k
Wap Version: 2.0
I'll try to send an MMS tomorrow.
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Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
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HTC messaging, which I understand handles MMS functionality in our devices, has evolved into... well, something I did not like any more, so it had to go.
I personally don't use MMS, so it is no big deal for me.
Your ArcSoft link below - I see no reason why it will not work, give it a try? You can then share Your findings with the rest of us.
P.S. Battery life on this ROM is the best I have ever seen!
I have tried a dozen ROMs and I usually stick with them for a month or so I guess. They are either lite with bugs or heavy with eye candy and bugs. So far I haven't had a single issue with yours. I think many developers get in to much of a hurry. I appreciate the great job you did on this.
I notice today that to get from one task to another, one program to another or one event to another I use fewer steps because everything is simple and functional. Thanks again.
I cooked in Arcsoft_MMS_5_2_8_45 on mine, after pulling out HTC Messaging, if I remember rightly it worked but it's very rare I use MMS anyway. If you install it afterwards, re-run carrier provisioning (or whatever it's called ... where it sets up your network settings automatically) and it should configure Arcsoft for ya.
Right now I'm running EnergyROM 23xxx from 1st of May but battery is suffering and it crashes a bit, not mega fast either. It is a nice flashy ROM tho I used to hate 23xxx and much prefer 21xxx but lately I'm kinda undecided.
Thanks for the haptic feedback registry edit; works great.
Also with regard to cooking in SafeInboxExtender look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677105
Why is this rom different than anyother rom.
The reason is *Freedom*.
Yes, a rom which lets you decide what you want.
*** Freedom Is Yours ***
Base OS: W6.5 - Titanium & Manila
Manila: Manila 2.5.2016_cfc
Sys : 23676
Packages: Hybrid Leo & Rhodium
Pagepool: 20 mb
Tweaks: Manila flip clock fix and Lock screen fix (The first time you lock the screen you will notice some lag, but after that every time it will be instant.)
Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8LMCIA6O
1. Hard reset after flashing
2. Align screen, install softwares, restore contacts and data (if any)
3. Soft reset
I would appreciate, if you leave a feedback. I looking forward to suggestions that could make the rom experience better.
Flash the rom on your own risk. I shall not be held responsible for any damage it may cause to your phone.
*** W6.5 & Manila 2.5 are not a supported for our device. So have some patience when operating them. ***
Changelog:
v2
Updates sys to 23676
Updated manila sense to 2_5_20161332_0_CFC
Updated HTCMessaging Client to 1_8_20181630 (Latest from 2018 Sense - Thanks Pyrorob )
Updated HTC Message to v1.10.281.0
Updates keyboard Ez Input to v2.1.20142921.00
Updated You Tube to v2.6.20161226.00
Updated Audio Booster to v2.5.20153030.01
Updated Full Screen Player to v1.8.20161429.00
Added MS office 2010
Added Adobe PDF v2.5.1.0.404840.03
other packages updated.
v1.2-23568 Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/396098588/Freedom_v1.2-23568.rar
Updates sys to 23568
Added Titanium
Fixed systimezone... error
v1.2
sys 23563
Manila_Core_2_5_20121225_0_CFC
Rhodium 2.07
Fixed setting improvement error
Fixed home button
Fixed dialer
F.A.Q
1.Rom does not have any theme?
Choose the one you like. I recommend Condor GT black. Search on the forum you will get the link
2.Rom does not have any performance drivers?
Choose the one that you feel works best for you.
I highly recommend installing one of the drivers available from here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
I suggest neo_2007_3, but the roms works well with other drivers as well.
GFX boost is also great but it also drains battery a lot faster.
3.It does not have browser apart from IE?
You choose, which browser you want to use. Opera is highly recommended, but you can also go with sky fire, bolt, etc.
4. Some useful softwares.
Add Call history tab to manila
Touch InCall tweak
BsB Tweaks
HD Tweak
Opera
Skyfire
Side2Play-Music player
Total Commander
Change screen(New version)
HTC eReader
B&N eReader
PIM Backup
Nodata
G-Alarm
SmartLock - Automatic Screen Lock
LUMOS - Complete HTC Auto-Backlight replacement
NaviComputer – Offline GPS Mapping Software
Other
Thanks to:
EpiphanyNL
Balaji (For sharing the kitchen)
koky72
All the beta testers who came forward here
entire xda-community
My Story:
Well i loved the chef who created great roms, but i always felt that, i am better off without all the crap is loaded on it.
I wished there was a way, I could just install stuff that I want. Thats when I decided, i need to built my own rom.
Journey so far has not been that good, hundreds of flashes and bugs still continue.
Some chefs were helpful, and some chefs behavior was so bad, made me feel like really, its just a damn rom you build, you are not god.
Also these chef forget, that what they are, is because of us, who follow them and praise them like addicts.
But not the entire community is bad. xda for me stands for sharing, growing and enjoying. And I wish community grows always.
Data Services in settings tab doesn't work
A lot of the other settings don't work either, in ms office there's no word or excel just onenote
Sounds like a good idea - there's always so much stuff on cooked roms I never use.
I have downloaded and will give this a go tomorrow - thansk for sharing.
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Data Services in settings tab doesn't work
A lot of the other settings don't work either, in ms office there's no word or excel just onenote
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This is a strip out rom.
You need to install office and other softwares by urself.
I will try to compile a list and post it here, but in the meanwhile please use search button.
I am looking to resolve the error asap, however, other things wok on the rom.
as an alternative i suggest using,
by click start--> settings...
for anything you need to change.
data services = settings--> connections -->account manager.
click on top bar then under notification window click battery icon for changing display and screen settings...
Dialer
I cant make a call
Try to dial and nothing happen
I cant figure out is it the ROM or something i did
I will see, and update.
Otherwise fast, smooth and best memory management
Thanks
I made hard reset and dialer working perfectly
I am downloading my stuff one by one to find out what cause this problem
I am so sorry, its great rom
i am using the rom on my phone and the dialer works perfectly.
i just had some issues when cookie monster was installed, the dialer just lagged.
i unistalled cookie monster and will test it.
your rom is fast and good but the home button is not working . when you daill the talk ,end call and the keypad are big
if you can make 21903 build it will be good
thanks
home button is not working? can you give more details coz i am using the rom and it is working for me.
regarding dialer being big, i tried using different dialers in my beta, but, it used to lag after call is dc. this is the best dialer i can use.
i will certainly work on other 21**, 23** versions, once i get more time.
Found the reason
Dear shah1237:
Dialer is perfect till i made contact restore, whatever the Prog (PIM, Sprite and SPB) then dialer went crazy:
-no call history
-network resetting
Please give solution that your ROM is very good and improved amazingly
Thanks
Update: the same happen even without restoring contacts, once new contact saved and dialed, the problem there
I think its due to cooked dialer.
new rom uploaded...
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new rom uploaded...
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Thank you, I'll test it in weekend!
very good job thank u.i put the graphics but i dont see any change,the same as before i install it.i would see any different somewhere or no?
but it is very good job
thank you very much.
i hope i succeeded in delivery a rom that users like me want.
i really have not done any benchmarks so cannot provide support for installing drivers.however i do feel, the drivers increase the overall performance, even though impact is not visible to the naked eye.And CFC manila is certainly fast, so i don't knw how much more responsive the UI can be.
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thank you very much.
i hope i succeeded in delivery a rom that users like me want.
i really have not done any benchmarks so cannot provide support for installing drivers.however i do feel, the drivers increase the overall performance, even though impact is not visible to the naked eye.And CFC manila is certainly fast, so i don't knw how much more responsive the UI can be.
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u realy make good job the rom is very fast but how i will fix my mail acount?
mgeo81 said:
u realy make good job the rom is very fast but how i will fix my mail acount?
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mail account? can you give more details.
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mail account? can you give more details.
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its ok i fix it.
but i want to tell u that.i put some pictures from people to my contact but when i call them the picture didnt appear.why?
is it difficult for u to make a list of some usefull programs expept from that that u have on the front page.
beacause iam new in the glub and it would it much easier for all us...
the newbies.....
thanks again!!great job
mgeo81 said:
its ok i fix it.
but i want to tell u that.i put some pictures from people to my contact but when i call them the picture didnt appear.why?
is it difficult for u to make a list of some usefull programs expept from that that u have on the front page.
beacause iam new in the glub and it would it much easier for all us...
the newbies.....
thanks again!!great job
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well the list you see is ideally the most common programs on the forum.
i will continue to add more links.
but i expect users to search the xda for additional softwares.