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I've tried both and got a question :
Why the interface of miri's WM6.5 is worse than Dutty's ? Isn't WM6.5 more latest than WM6.1 ?
Could anyone please make it clear here ? Thanks in advance !
abc138 said:
I've tried both and got a question :
Why the interface of miri's WM6.5 is worse than Dutty's ? Isn't WM6.5 more latest than WM6.1 ?
Could anyone please make it clear here ? Thanks in advance !
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Which interface are you talking about?
I do prefer WinMo 6.5 interface over 6.1.
There are two main changes (visual wisse) on WinMo 6.5 which is the main screen where you have Titanium and the start menu.
On WinMo 6.5 things tend to be more finger friendly than in WinMo 6.1.
As I said before, I do prefer how things are going from 6.1 to 6.5.....
Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. They've been at it a while, we're currently @ version 3. A good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft, who are just now attempting to make the OS more finger friendly and though its newer it is sadly not as refined or cohesive. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new htc start menu, but with htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
wsouza said:
Which interface are you talking about?
I do prefer WinMo 6.5 interface over 6.1.
There are two main changes (visual wisse) on WinMo 6.5 which is the main screen where you have Titanium and the start menu.
On WinMo 6.5 things tend to be more finger friendly than in WinMo 6.1.
As I said before, I do prefer how things are going from 6.1 to 6.5.....
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Sorry for my English !
I mean the popup interface when a function button is touched. Dutty's is very smooth & clear, including fonts, and you can touchflo it, but WM6.5's is not...
DRTigerlilly said:
Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. a good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft and though its newer it is sadly not as refined. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new start menu, htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
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Thanks man, you got the point!
abc138 said:
I mean the popup interface when a function button is touched. Dutty's is very smooth & clear, including fonts, and you can touchflo it, but WM6.5's is not...
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Why is a modern VW Beetle slower then an old Porsche? Because they are different cars...
Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
I tested almost all ROM's from here and the one i found with not so many bugs is that from Laurentius26.
Miri's ROM it's nice but have many bugs , last version i try it's V4 Premium and as you see in his post have many bugs but it's faster (33-35%)
That from Laurentius26 it's not so fast (40-45%) but doesn't have so many bugs so untill miri will improve his version i'll stay and old wwe 6.1
I think this thread should be closed. You are comparing two different operating systems so they are not the same and to put them into a comparison is doing any thing good for either cook.
My 2cts worth
furrypotato said:
Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
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Thanks furrypotato, you've given me what I'd been looking for!
LuCkYaN said:
I tested almost all ROM's from here and the one i found with not so many bugs is that from Laurentius26.
Miri's ROM it's nice but have many bugs , last version i try it's V4 Premium and as you see in his post have many bugs but it's faster (33-35%)
That from Laurentius26 it's not so fast (40-45%) but doesn't have so many bugs so untill miri will improve his version i'll stay and old wwe 6.1
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Thanks for your valuable experience LuCkYaN, maybe I should try Laurentius26's, Dutty's still has ringtone problem...
And Laurentius26 still have bug on ringtone, you can not change ringtone.
p.s. somebody a little up said this thread should be closed in my oppinion have right and not
1. yes users should enter everyone rom thread and see what bug have and if he want will install if no should search another one
2. no because as i did i don't find a thread like this on this part of forum and start to flashing with all roms to see what's new what that have and don't and was good for me but for a new user who join and don't have time to flash all the time and want one good and stable rom to know where to go
On Miri's thread a guy said he want a rom simple without nothing that who came from HTC without bugs but isn't here something like that. In my oppinion if somebody have that ROM i want to post here because came a time when i'll be bored to flash all the time and i just want a rom who to be stable (as i allready said this is my oppinion without upset somebody all ROM's Dutty / Laurentius26 / Miri are good and i apreciate they'r effort )
LuCkYaN said:
And Laurentius26 still have bug on ringtone, you can not change ringtone.
p.s. somebody a little up said this thread should be closed in my oppinion have right and not
1. yes users should enter everyone rom thread and see what bug have and if he want will install if no should search another one
2. no because as i did i don't find a thread like this on this part of forum and start to flashing with all roms to see what's new what that have and don't and was good for me but for a new user who join and don't have time to flash all the time and want one good and stable rom to know where to go
On Miri's thread a guy said he want a rom simple without nothing that who came from HTC without bugs but isn't here something like that. In my oppinion if somebody have that ROM i want to post here because came a time when i'll be bored to flash all the time and i just want a rom who to be stable (as i allready said this is my oppinion without upset somebody all ROM's Dutty / Laurentius26 / Miri are good and i apreciate they'r effort )
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That's what I want to say too, thank you again, LuCkYaN!!!
DRTigerlilly said:
Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. They've been at it a while, we're currently @ version 3. A good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft, who are just now attempting to make the OS more finger friendly and though its newer it is sadly not as refined or cohesive. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new htc start menu, but with htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
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DRTigerLilly, say's it here, quite right. We must remember also these are Beta's. Dutty has done a fantastic job, both have to test and make the best of Widows and HTC interfaces.
I think you are right to ask and we struggle on to make the perfect ROM
Well done people!
I tested both as well and while i LOVED the 6.5 interface there were still too many bugs. So i switched to Dutty 2.3 (Winmo 6.1) but the one thing i HATE there is the new start menu.. i mean the old drop down was the thing i was really used to...so please can any1 tell me how to get that back on without changing roms? and also the new camera app is and duttys installer for old camera isint working .... any fix for that?? PLZ help me out...i hate new menu
sephiroth_vg said:
PLZ help me out...i hate new menu
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Search in the forum, there are many solutions, many threads about it.
bobsbbq said:
I think this thread should be closed. You are comparing two different operating systems so they are not the same and to put them into a comparison is doing any thing good for either cook.
My 2cts worth
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I think its a good discussion about 2 operating systems.. u have to know the pros and cons of each and feed back form different users
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Thanks furrypotato, you've given me what I'd been looking for!
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well, unfortunately what he told you is just his opinion, and I think he is wrong. I think it's actually the other way around. TouchFlow was a sort of temporary fix by HTC to bring up a GUI that can compete with Iphone until MS has their own solution. With 6.5 it's not necessary anymore. The newer 6.5 versions such as Miri's V5 easily beat TouchFlo and whatever 6.1 has to offer. The new 6.5 GUI is not a "curtain" like TF, covering up something, but a genuine new interface. I don't even load the manila with TouchFlo anymore, the generic 6.5 GUI is clearly better.
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Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
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I totally agree with you!
Please don't close this thread yet!
Perhaps the chef names should be removed as roms based on 6.1 with Manila v3 are only subtly different and the same goes for 6.5 roms (IN MY OPINION...)
It is interesting to compare experiences side by side.
I know it is quite shallow but although I like Titanium it doesn't have the same wow factor as v3 Manila does and on a day to day basis, I don't really need to go much deeper.
I also feel that 6.1 has so much support here that I can revive the wow factor with regularity.
6.5 will continue to be installed every couple of weeks though
edit: whoa...these results are quite interesting. the majority (some chefs included) thinks that 6.1 is better and smoother than 6.5 despite the missing features. maybe some rom cookers should release more 6.1 roms as everyone seems to be doing 6.5 these days
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while wm6.5 has many worthwhile additions over 6.1, i have noticed that the average 6.1 cooked roms (for example touchX, itje touch-it 10, pctech4u, old jacks roms....etc) tend to work better for me than their 6.5
they just tend to perform better, use noticeably less memory, and video and graphics performance always seems smoother
what do you all think?
6.1 used to be "better". approx 2 months ago it started changing.
Agent 47 changed that first, now other are following.
All answers will have a bias though.
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6.1 used to be "better". approx 2 months ago it started changing.
Agent 47 changed that first, now other are following.
All answers will have a bias though.
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IMHO 6.5 can be quite good, but maybe Im too old or something as I can not live with new start menu from 6.5 ... it's ugly like hell and definitly harder to use. I wonder is there a way to have normal old start menu with 6.5 ?
I was usin "Touch X 10.1 X TREME" ROM, for the last 2 month, but when I updated to "Touch X INFINITY 2.0B" with wm 6.5, it was very buggy, unstable, high mem usage, lots of errors whtout any specefiec reason.
I can say wm 6.1 is a really much better OS than 6.5.
Does anyone know if the 6.5 has come out officially ?
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I was usin "Touch X 10.1 X TREME" ROM, for the last 2 month, but when I updated to "Touch X INFINITY 2.0B" with wm 6.5, it was very buggy, unstable, high mem usage, lots of errors whtout any specefiec reason.
I can say wm 6.1 is a really much better OS than 6.5.
Does anyone know if the 6.5 has come out officially ?
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INFINITY 2.0B (B=BETA, going to trashcan, 3.0 is soon), yes that version is VERY buggy, but try valks or any1 elses, and its good, not really as smooth as 6.1 i think...
totaly agree. i have tested so many 6,5 roms in the x1 and i always end up going back to 6.1 (pctech4u or touchX in my case). you have to be blind not to notice the difference
6.1 roms are smoother than 6.5 even on the touch diamond2
guess MS needs to tweak 6.5 before they finalize it
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and its good, not really as smooth as 6.1 i think...
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right from the horse's mouth
I've tried many ROMs and off course there might be a couple of bugs in wm6.5, because it's not released yet, but it's so much more touchfriendly.
So far the most outstanding wm6.5 ROMs to me are gtrab's r3.61 BB ROM and the latest Energy ROM, both perform very very good. They are both really smooth, especially looking back on the wm6.1 ROMs...
After testing Firestorm... NOWAY! 6.5 is better !!
For me wm 6.1
I like very much to "play" with wm 6.5 and valkirie Xperio is very nice but for day to day use I keep going back to Jack 3.x.
Absolutely no problem for me with that while with wm 6.5 I keep finding problems.
yeah, wm6.5 seem likes to hang a lot..
morgoth6 said:
IMHO 6.5 can be quite good, but maybe Im too old or something as I can not live with new start menu from 6.5 ... it's ugly like hell and definitly harder to use. I wonder is there a way to have normal old start menu with 6.5 ?
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You take the words from my mouth! I feel exactly the same, I would even go further and say the start menu in Wm 6.5 is a joke, I am amazed how a company with so much GUI experience could create it. But some people seem to like it..
Firestorm 6.5 ROM's for me are the best atm
I'm loving 6.5.
I just like to be testing the newest things.
There will be bugs, but they have lessened considerably.
Valkyrie ROM's have been great. I went from 2.4 and ran them all until 2.9.
Currently I'm on itje's Touch-it LEO III.
I just flash, tweak, re-flash....just like everyone here
6.1 roms will be more stable no doubt until 6.5 reaches final status.
Regards,
WC
Once you start using the latest crop of 6.5 [yes FireStorm 2.9 comes to mind] you cannot go back. The UI changes are fluid, kinetic and functional.
Honestly, I'll take a somewhat buggy 6.5, over a 'polished' 6.1 any day now
I am using The energy rom, and no way am i going back to 6.1. Simple reason, scrolling is lot more simple now, without having to use the stylus.
If you really rely on your phone for everyday business use, 6.1 is still better. Some of the newer 6.5 roms are very nice and work well, but they are much more unpredictable than a really solid 6.1 rom that's been tried and tested. Playing around on 6.5 is nice, but most of the 6.5 roms are too garish and colorful in my opinion, and they are just not as stable. People will try to argue, but if you had to pick a rom to get you through a crucial business day, I think most people would pick a 6.1 rom. Not just for stability, but also for battery life.
Energy and firestorm are both realy realy good 6.5 Roms.
the 230xx builds in general (beside 24,25 and propably 28) are both realy fast, stable and energy saving. previous 6.5 builds used to suck all somehow.
so currently i tend to say that 6.5 ROMs have reached thier usability stages. 6.1 is kinda out ^^
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If you really rely on your phone for everyday business use, 6.1 is still better. Some of the newer 6.5 roms are very nice and work well, but they are much more unpredictable than a really solid 6.1 rom that's been tried and tested. Playing around on 6.5 is nice, but most of the 6.5 roms are too garish and colorful in my opinion, and they are just not as stable. People will try to argue, but if you had to pick a rom to get you through a crucial business day, I think most people would pick a 6.1 rom. Not just for stability, but also for battery life.
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+1
some don't really care if the phone works, if the messages are sent correctly, if the phone rings on call, if the tone sounds on alert, if the alarm buzzes on time. some don't need a working phone and don't mind living with a partially working device.
but let's face it, not everyone are 22. well not anymore.
That's how it all started...
"Hi all,
probably my brain is still in holyday, but I can not find any new Manila 2.5 (Leo, am I right?) interface on a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM.
The question is: is it impossible or it is just that you are all in love with WM 6.5, that I actually hate since it is too cahotic?
I know that I can eventually install a WM6.1 lite ROM and then find a cab with Manila 3.5(if it exists) but performances would be significantly worst.
Thanks!"
...and that's where we are now:
WM 6.1 + Manila 2.1.19
jackleung
[19/09] Jack V3.x [WM6.1 REBORN with Manila 2.1.19]
MrRusch
[2009-09-17][WWE][ROM] Touch X 10.5 (WM6.1 + Manila 2.1.19182825.6)
WM 6.1 + Leo (aka Manila 2.6)
Outie
[09-26-2009][WWE] "ROM & KITCHEN" - WM6.1 + Leo w/ Twitter
tron13
[ROM] Manila 2.5 | Win 6.1 WWE |Built 21046|Sep 19|Download NOW
...I love xda community!!!
i damn sure hope that can be done!
why why why why why?!?!? I hate 6.1, 6.5 is soooo much better. It wouldnt really work without new start menu either, the ui and everything. Cant see the point.
HazzBazz said:
why why why why why?!?!? I hate 6.1, 6.5 is soooo much better. It wouldnt really work without new start menu either, the ui and everything. Cant see the point.
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I already explained the point. Up to me, 6.1 runs better and is organized better than 6.5 (e.g. programs are a-z sorted, there are less menu levels, smaler icons, etc).
Again, this is *my* preference. That's why I asked if it would have been possible. I know that lots of people prefer WM 6.5, and there's plenty of out there.
Up to now, no answer... so, is it technically possible or not to have Manila 2.5 on WM 6.1?
It is definitely possible. Miri has already cooked a 6.1 LEO rom for another device.
That would be really great with LEO on 6.1. Hopefully one of the good chefs around here thinks the same
tbh, i'm getting a bit pissed off wth wm6.5. i used to like it, but after some use titanium just doesn't make sense, it's not efficient at all. the start menu is just a mess, and the battery icon winds me up! i thought the new build with buttons at the bottom would help, but it didn't. i still support WildChild and his roms, but after daily usage on wm6.5 (coming from SPB MobileShell 3) i can't deal with 6.5 now
leo on 6.1 would be ideal, wasn't really a fan of touchflo until leo, they've made some good impovements
as doctorcrete on miri's thread said
6.1 is way much faster in my opinion, I think others will agree. Obviously it has everything to do with a well developed 6.1 ROM versus a Beta 6.5
amen to that
i just pm'd miri a polite request to cook a 6.1leo rom for the x1 not sure how likely it'll be, but worth a shot!
msc125 said:
tbh, i'm getting a bit pissed off wth wm6.5. i used to like it, but after some use titanium just doesn't make sense, it's not efficient at all. the start menu is just a mess, and the battery icon winds me up! i thought the new build with buttons at the bottom would help, but it didn't. i still support WildChild and his roms, but after daily usage on wm6.5 (coming from SPB MobileShell 3) i can't deal with 6.5 now
leo on 6.1 would be ideal, wasn't really a fan of touchflo until leo, they've made some good impovements
as doctorcrete on miri's thread said
6.1 is way much faster in my opinion, I think others will agree. Obviously it has everything to do with a well developed 6.1 ROM versus a Beta 6.5
amen to that
i just pm'd miri a polite request to cook a 6.1leo rom for the x1 not sure how likely it'll be, but worth a shot!
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Hey, is it me speaking??!! Totally agree with you, please let us know what miri will answer you.
As stated out in other threads, just installing Manila 2.5 cab on a lite version of WM6.1 won't work, since it is not efficient at all and performances would be really bad.
It can be done with 6.1 but I think almost all cheffs are moving to the newer 6.5 builds since it's really stable these days
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Hey, is it me speaking??!! Totally agree with you, please let us know what miri will answer you.
hehe will do, i gave him link to this thread aswell
it's a shame for me that all the chefs are onto 6.5 now. i know this is a 'developer' forum and 6.5 is new/ beta, but for usability, let's face it- 6.1 is quicker, and more stable than 6.5 (even though 6.5 is getting better)
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unfortunately, miri won't be able to do anything for the x1 as it would be very difficult to cook for the x1 without actually owning one.
understandable, but unfortunate
let's hope one of the cooks here gives it a go
Yeah. I was really hoping someone like itje or smaberg would do something like this. I love 6.1, and I love Leo Manilla. Would just be awesome to see Leo and 6.1 put together. Would certainly have a lot of users I think.
Don't see why it wouldn't be possible. Pretty please, could someone maybe look into this when they have some spare time. Would love to see this happen ^^
I think I would be willing to support the person who comes up with this. Windows Mobile 6.1 with Leo Manilla (2.6 most probably?). Hope there is a chef out there willing to give it a shot ^^
i would like this too as this 6.5 rom is pi55ing me off now with constant reboots because app not working properly or crashing and it feel it is slow.
its like windows xp sp3 vs vista
It looks good but does not work good.
Personally I like wm 6.5 better but I do see the point in a Leo 6.1 rom.
I always thought that leo wouldn't work well with 6.1 as htc built the interface for 6.5, how does it work on "miri"s rom?
it seems to work very well, the thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278
i've used one of his roms on a friends blackstone, it was very good, stable and quick- he's a good cook!
general consensus seems to be very positive indeed, seems super-quick. there are the usual bugs that are being ironed out successfully as far as i can tell. also, it is being developed, it's currently on version 2.1, and miri is still active on it
Ok, I'll try to contact itje, jackleung, smaberg, wildchild, NRG, gtrab and some more to see if they can cook it... I'll keep you updated!
gd luck with that..... I look forward to a 6.1 leo myself
nice one [email protected], send a mass pm!!
a while back i asked WildChild if he considered a lite 6.1, he said he has some 6.1 builds, but no one has shown much interest in them- not sure where he is with Leo though...
[email protected] said:
Ok, I'll try to contact itje, jackleung, smaberg, wildchild, NRG, gtrab and some more to see if they can cook it... I'll keep you updated!
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That would be amazing dude. I would be perfectly prepared to maybe show a little monetary support to the chef who turns up a 6.1 ROM with Leo ^^
[email protected]
not sure if you did, but please include bsp98ht in your request, his PCTech4U is simply brilliant...
Hey everyone
I am trying to figure out which version of WM is best for the my phone. What are the pros and Cons of 6.1 vs 6.5?
and what are the best builds I can get for both? I have 2 Kaiser phones (HTC 8925) and would like to install 6.1 on one and 6.5 on the other to see which works best for me.
Thanks
livebackwards75 said:
Hey everyone
I am trying to figure out which version of WM is best for the my phone. What are the pros and Cons of 6.1 vs 6.5?
and what are the best builds I can get for both? I have 2 Kaiser phones (HTC 8925) and would like to install 6.1 on one and 6.5 on the other to see which works best for me.
Thanks
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6.1 is official and stable, 6.5 is unofficial and beta therefore there are some stability issues . Some roms more than others.
Beyond that , with two Tilts, lucky you. Put a stable 6.1 on one to use everyday and with the other, try every rom that looks and sounds good until you find the one that works for you.
denco7 said:
6.1 is official and stable, 6.5 is unofficial and beta therefore there are some stability issues . Some roms more than others.
Beyond that , with two Tilts, lucky you. Put a stable 6.1 on one to use everyday and with the other, try every rom that looks and sounds good until you find the one that works for you.
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Yeah I don't recommend 6.5 anymore. It screws up all the time.
wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
hhmmm
so what is the most stable 6.1 I can get?
or should I keep the 2nd one on 6.0.....?
livebackwards75 said:
wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
hhmmm
so what is the most stable 6.1 I can get?
or should I keep the 2nd one on 6.0.....?
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Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls. There are a lot of really nice things about 6.5 that I like a lot. Finger friendliness is one of them. But since we don't have an official version yet, everyone is experimenting and pushing the limits. " let's take this puppy out for a spin and see what it'll do " kind of thing. Chefs are not going for a nice safe stable version of 6.5. They are leaving that up to M$.
I use stylez' Black rom ( check sig ) it is as good as 6.1 gets. But I have also used shifu's v17, abusalza's X v.9, TPC's Elite v6 and mbarvian's Solice v3.1, also all good roms. Flash them all and see wnat you like best.
I ran duttys last rom for almost a year with only having to reset 2 times. You can't do what with a 6.5.
ChumleyEX said:
I ran duttys last rom for almost a year with only having to reset 2 times. You can't do what with a 6.5.
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Soft or hard? If that's soft, did you have routine soft resets and you only had to manually reset twice, or do you just not actually run anything.
denco7 said:
Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls. There are a lot of really nice things about 6.5 that I like a lot. Finger friendliness is one of them. But since we don't have an official version yet, everyone is experimenting and pushing the limits. " let's take this puppy out for a spin and see what it'll do " kind of thing. Chefs are not going for a nice safe stable version of 6.5. They are leaving that up to M$.
I use stylez' Black rom ( check sig ) it is as good as 6.1 gets. But I have also used shifu's v17, abusalza's X v.9, TPC's Elite v6 and mbarvian's Solice v3.1, also all good roms. Flash them all and see wnat you like best.
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Alright so I am now on "tylez' Black rom" and so far it is my favorite Rom.
is there a user manual for Touch Flo some where?
I installed the M2DC and am getting ready to play with differnt Themes. but I am having hard time customizing the touch flo.
but my main Question is under the "Programs" Tab in touch flow I would like to add a button that links to a certain File Directory. I can add File Exploer there, but not a set file directory. I created a Shortcut to the file and tried to add that but it didn't work. any Ideas? Ideally under that "program tab I'd like to add a link to the "Games Directory"
any help?
I ran all sorts of things, and all I did were a couple of hard resets.
livebackwards75 said:
wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
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Funny you say that. I was going to comment (And know I guess I am) that The 6.5 start menu is the only thing keeping me from using 6.5. The 6.1 start menu self organizes. The programs I use tend to stay at the top of the list. If it's not there, then I can go to the programs tab.
I wouldn't rule out HTC WM 6.0 ROMs
denco7 said:
Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls.
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Maybe this is an AT&T Tilt ROM or network specific thing because I've found WM 6.0 to be the most reliable hands down out of the numerous WM HTC WWE ROMs I've evaluated and even one WM 6.5 Customised ROM. My calls are reliable and clear and there don't seem to be the same 'screen flash' issues coming out of powersaving mode and occasional silent ring tones that the WM 6.1 ROMs gave me.
It's not the fastest in terms of GUI performance but as far as GPS performance is concerned people may as well use a sextant, almanac and maps to navigate because it'll be quicker than many GPS equipped ROMs using WM 6.1 and 6.5. This is because WM 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs require different radio firmware than the original WM 6.0 ROMs and these new Radios are weaker at/allocate less power to receiving the satellite signals.
It depends on what the owners priorities and intended uses for the phone are, as to which ROM is most suitable.
Nothing to do with the actual topic
First:
Denco7 said:
...Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make clls.
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Then:
Flying Kiwi said:
...as far as GPS performance is concerned people may as well use a sextant, almanac and maps to navigate because it'll be quicker than many GPS equipped ROMs using WM 6.1 and 6.5.
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We've gotten some pretty entertaining people in the last several months. I'm just catching up from missing half a year, and you people are pretty damn funny.
Alrite -- who amongst y'all is using 6.5 with SPB MS3? What can you report regarding its performance?
burtcom said:
Alrite -- who amongst y'all is using 6.5 with SPB MS3? What can you report regarding its performance?
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Used with TPC's and Abusalza's 6.5 naked or stripped versions, and the performance was very good. I wouldn't try to use it with full versions as it will have to compete with , Manila, MotoHome, and or Titanium/cHome for resources.
I've been using this 6.5 rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519715
It has been much more stable than the default 6.1 AT&T rom that I used for the last two years. Reception is even better.
I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia
fatso485 said:
I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia
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* i can't say ALL 6.5 is "jerker" .. user interface was enhanced .. "finger" friendly (which is important for a touchscreen unit)
* i didn't also experienced SOD with all the cooked roms that i've tried in 6.5 (following what is indicated in every post by the chef or the developer helps alot) and maybe.. just maybe another factor is the 3rd party apps installed by the user
* yes some cooked roms are hungry for battery ](but not for what i use now) and i think it also depends on the user.. if uses it heavily or moderate..
* TF3D is good! and i agree with that and i will not be the villain in your post but.. users of this unit will find the exact rom or cook the exact rom for them.. that will fit to their everyday use.. not because "it is fast and more stable".. instead of asking them.. be thankful that some, i mean alot of people now do such things to improve this "king of the hill" xperia one and if for you alone, you are already contented of the roms that you've mentioned.. instead of making this post or calling 6.5 a "jerker" (i can't help but laugh) .. help others who is looking for 6.1 cooked roms.. suggest and spread the news..
peaceout!
It's the future man... Or you are in, or you are out!
HolySorento said:
It's the future man... Or you are in, or you are out!
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definitely in..
its not that 6.1 is gone,
see Evilash_leo (latest manila 2.5 2012 with 6.1)
touch x is there... (will be updated probably this week)
People still have interest... but definitely..6.5 & 6.5.x has taken its toll
i would say i want a newer device, and so newer operating system ...something you can't do in case of girlfriend
asalia said:
its not that 6.1 is gone,
see Evilash_leo (latest manila 2.5 2012 with 6.1)
touch x is there... (will be updated probably this week)
People still have interest... but definitely..6.5 & 6.5.x has taken its toll
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i didnt test this Evilash_leo rom all i got was a Korean site with a very slow download link (5k/s) and im not sure if its WWE. can you give me a link
EDIT: seems that i found it. pls ignore my request
1. there are just recently released 6.1 roms
2. 6.1 has been cooked so much, why recook them? just pick one of those 6.1 roms that exist and youre fine
deepthroat said:
i would say i want a newer device, and so newer operating system ...something you can't do in case of girlfriend
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in case of that maybe u can use both newer and older one!
kidding man don't do like i'm said
pansen222 said:
1. there are just recently released 6.1 roms
2. 6.1 has been cooked so much, why recook them? just pick one of those 6.1 roms that exist and youre fine
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Yes but how many wm6.1 have manila 2.5?? Much more needed ...
In my opinion 6.1 is done.
6.5 is only marginally better.
7 had my attention until I read some post by Doministry linking me to info that multi-tasking on 7 would be an issue.
I'm headed to Android next.
X10.
6.1 is definitely faster in general case. But one important characteristic of 6.5 make me never look back on 6.1. It's provide more virtual memory (don't be confuse with available memory with Settings > memory) by opening up slot 60,61 with 6.5 nk and compatible kitchen.
fatso485 said:
I have tested far too many 6.5 roms i dont understand the complete halt of the development of 6.1 ROMS. there seems to be a lot of confusion going on here:
-ALL 6.5.x roms run noticeably slower and jerkier than 6.1 roms.
-some have decent stability but the majority suffer from SOD bug. generally speaking 6.1 cooked ROMs are just more stable.
-ALL have worse battery life than 6.1 roms
-TF3D simply runs smoother on 6.1 roms (~30frames Per Second VS. ~15-20 FPS)
before flaming me go ahead and try flashing ROMs like touchX, PcTech4U, you'd halve to be blind not to notice that todays newer better-looking 6.5.5 ROMs are actully a clear step below what we used to have with 6.1 ROMs last year
bottom line: if you care about battery, speed and stability, forget about 6.5. it feels a lot like a proof of concept on our Xperia
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I have to agree, the 6.1 just works better if you use the phone a lot on the X1.
Which rom do you use with 6.1, I have found that this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561555 is the best for me so far, but I would like to try something else until the latest update comes out...
fatso485 said:
i didnt test this Evilash_leo rom all i got was a Korean site with a very slow download link (5k/s) and im not sure if its WWE. can you give me a link
EDIT: seems that i found it. pls ignore my request
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Hello All,
I agree that we are less and less having 6.1 ROM, but let's not give a bad impression of WM 6.5.
I found WM 6.5 to be very good without manila. very quick and responsive.
Do we have other implementation of WM6.1 with Manila 2.5, apart from evilash_leo ? please direct me.
i tried searching, didnt come across ...
I have been using the VERY stable and smooth Touch X 10.9.1 (WM6.1/Manila 2.1.19202517) NUTS for some 3-4 months lately (WM 6.1 w/M2.1), after having been trying WM6.5 with manila 2.1/2.5
i personally felt WM6.1 is definitely smoother, coz i dont like lags when going thru contacts, dialpad, or sms keyboard-response.
I would nonetheless want the Manila 2.5, though, due to the tighter integration with social networking.
Nice thread. but let's not take things personal and just discuss
Regards,
Nitish/.
as said earlier.. WinMo 6.5 alone is fast.
WinMo 6.5 with Manila 2.1/2.5 make is a bit slower on Xperia Hardware. (u all might have noticed it)
WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.1/2.5 is having good speed in Xperia hardware. (eg. TouchX 10.9.1 or latest Evilash Leo Manila 2.5)
If you want WM6.5 with speed (and all manila stuff) why not change to HD2.
In Xperia - WM6.1 with/without manila rocks
Just my experience. Thanks!
PEACE
N1T15H said:
Do we have other implementation of WM6.1 with Manila 2.5, apart from evilash_leo ? please direct me.
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here you go ...
deepthroat said:
here you go ...
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thanks i missed that one ... gonna dl and try ..
unfortunately i have to agree with most of the people here. 6.5 is <<< 6.1 on the Xperia.
I would really love to see some of the big chefs here like agent, NRG, itje...etc cook a 6.1 ROM. i think they will be pleasantly surprised with how much faster and smoother their rom will be.
i would recomend that everyone (especially cookers)gives evilash rom (6.1 w\ manilla 2.5) a try