Massive reception dead spots (voice calls, data), possible 3G fault? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Please help. I have been with o2 now for a while and I’ve never had a reception problem this bad… I’ve brought my friends Kaiser. On T-mobile he had great reception around where we live and work but since I have unlocked it I have never had a satisfactory level of reception. I have tried lots of SPL’s, ROMs and radio ROMs (including the stock o2 one) and they are all as bad as each other, give or take. The number of bars of reception varies across the range but they all have the same massive dead spots with no radio reception at all. I have tried other phones i.e. nokia’s, samsung’s and a Hermes I had none of these dead spots.
Now here is where I may betray my noob status, I was beginning to believe it was something wrong with the o2 settings in general because it is like the phone is only picking up reception from certain cell towers (maybe o2 ones?!?) and ignoring others, is this possible or am I just grabbing at straws? Then I discovered a most promising the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-335074.html which is full of people with 3G faults perhaps my problem is linked to the 3G mast nearby and so in fact my phone only works where there is a poor signal and no 3G which forces it to use GSM. I have tried to prove this but my current ROM Mobile Vista 4.00 SeaDragon 5.2.21109 seems unable to remember the GSM setting, the phone locks up and require a soft reset. I am sure it can’t be a hardware fault as suggested in the above thread because my friend had the phone working flawlessly.
Any suggestions as to what I can do. I’ve been at this problem for over 4 months now and am close to admitting defeat, I believe the problem may be beyond me...

I believe you should be posting at General Kaiser Forum instead
My strongest suggestion is go back to factory (OEM) including the SPL and ROM, so you can be sure it's not ROM/Radio. If that's ok, then you need to carefully match the Radio/SPL/ROM. Some radio is only for WM6.0 (check the Radio FAQ, included on the sticky FAQ thread).

Ok I have made a bit of progress but would like some advice. Now that I am aware of the 3G fault I have been keeping an eye on my signal and each time just before the signal dies the phone is trying to switch from gsm/edge to 3G/HSPDA. I have flashed my rom again this time with a reconstructed T-mobile UK rom that I found through the revert to original rom and SPl for waranty returns (Thanks a lot jcespi2005). I now have a 3G/H signal (phew atleast my phones not bricked) but am unable to make or receive calls, I assume this is because it is set up to use T-mobile settings not O2. Is there a cab out there that would let me change the settings for the OEM operator rom so I can keep this working rom. Failing that does anyone have any suggestions for a cooked rom for O2?

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Problem with my TILT, signal....

Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
egk-69 said:
Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
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Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
That happened to me until i switched to duttys rom and inex radio. now that problem is solved for me.
SOMEONE SET UP US TEH ROM!!!
WE NO GET SIGNAL!
If you could tell us if you ahve flashed to a customer ROM or if you have a Stock ROM, the one that came with the phone. Same with the Radio. We could help you better. Thank You.
redbandana said:
Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
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ok its a AT&T TILT
ROM Version: 1.57.502.2
ROM DATE: 08/25/07
Radio Version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H
Same here
I'm now with the updated AT&T ROM, but wit hthe same issues.
This also happened with the previous ROM.
At home I'm connected to my PC via USB. For some reason, in this location I have virtually no reception (ie I have 1 or 0 bars).
And many times, if I don't go in/out of Flight Mode after I leave home, I find myself without reception even for a couple of hours (ie the Tilt doesn't "recover" on its own).
I HardSPL'd my Tilt and tried installing the French radio in order to improve reception (other users in my location said it worked well for them), but found it was incompatible, and after a very stressful day (I was certain I'd bricked my Tilt) - was able to enter bootloader mode and restore the original radio.
At the moment I don't want to flash a Kaiser radio, and I want to wait until AT&T release their own WM6.1 ROM (I don't want to use a cooked one).
Further (I wrote about this in another post) - my GPS loses signal quite often, even under clear skies. I understand that this is another aspect of the radio drivers.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
I'd rather think it's a hardware problem. RMA...
Difficult....
I live abroad, and so it'll cost a small fortune in shipping charges, etc.
Not to mention import taxes, etc, if the IMEI is changed (eg if the device is replaced).
I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
is this NIKI radio compatible with the standard AT&T ROM?
I have 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09.
Or is it compatible only with WM6.1?
Thank you.
redbandana said:
I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
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ok, you say it improves with niki radio!?
so I have never done this before, is it hard!? were can I find a GOOD tutorial or guide or troubleshooter in case i get STUCK??
Other thing, here were I live, i think ATT from the quad band, use 850 almost all the time, anything to say about that? it doenst matter?, maybe its a stupid Q...
But the Niki radio requires WM6.1, doesn't it?
redbandana,
Did you install the Niki radio on a WM6 Tilt?
And what ROM do you have? (ie the original AT&T ROM, the updated AT&T ROM or a cooked one?)

EDGE connection major issue

Does anyone have this problem ?
Connect IE via yr mobile EDGE service..for my case is Digi in Malaysia. The first few mins or pages..it works fine..Right after that IE cannot reach any pages and time out.. All the while the "E" for data services is still connected. Brought it back to HTC service centre...they tested 1 week , change 2 mother boards and swap one new unit...still the same issue..Its not sim issue as my connection does not break in other phones. Issue prevails in Google Maps, MSN Messenger and Shape Service IM+. If anyone knows a fix...pls help as I dunno what to do with an expensive phone that cannot sustain connection over EDGE or GPRS
Thanks
Have you flashed your rom to a different one other than stock? what about the radio, which version are you using, is it stock?
I would lean towards a radio issue or the edge service sucks.
i do know that on my older 8125 (wizard) that after about 3 days of being in constant connection i would get the same problem, but all i would have to do is disconnect form it and reconnect and it would be fine again for a long wile.
Hi pdpt,
Yes I have flashed to many ROM's and Radio including, Stock, Dutty's, Sleuth, Vega, No thrills, SNE, Alex while RADIO ROMS for WM6 and 6.1 including Nikki's , Polaris etc etc. Unfortunately all results the same. Have also tried manual connection setup, Kaiser Tweak (Edge always on) disabling the 3G portion, diabling HSDPA but those only saves batt drainag.
My previous Dopod 838Pro and the HTC Touch doesnt have this issue. Its only confined to Tytn II.
You state you've flashed to many ROM's. Have you flashed back to a stock ROM from ATT or HTC? Can make all the difference.
yes of course i did flashed back to original. the new unit i got back was also stock
cmloo said:
for my case is Digi in Malaysia.
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well i dont know much about the edge service in Malaysia but before i say its borked try getting a new sim card. if that doesnt work im going to say that there might be something wrong with the unit itself esp if the sim card works in another phone and you can surf the internet with no problem.

Tilt registry question

Is it possible that a registry change or key deletion can knock out 3G service? I could go into the background for the question but I don't think anyone here cares for the minutae. I can connect to EDGE just fine, but if I switch to 3G, the H icon appears but no communication (phone, SMS, internet) can be made, and on a soft-reset I get an endless signal search. It all started while screwing around with GPS (stock AT&T 6.1 ROM at the time). I've had intermittent and short-lived luck getting 3G back via ROM / radio flashes, which leads me to believe it is software-related rather than hardware.
I've searched to the point of wanting to slam my skull into a brick wall and to no avail. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
If you've flashed different ROMs then I'm pretty sure it's not a software issue. Might be your hardware.

No signal or signal is very poor - need help

Hello to all!
First I want to notice that I'm smartphone / ppc user for more than 3 years so I think I have good experience. Before posting I spent hours and days trying to find solution for my problem.
Second, my device info (when I bought it)
SWISSCOM XPA v1405
ROM: 1.14.166.1
Radio: 1.05.02.00
BREE100
IPL- 0.90
SPL-2.05 (Now SPL-1.9.0000)
CID-VODAP110 (info 2, HTCSVODAP110IqpÞHTCE)
Now, problem description:
Last week I bought two mobile phones Swisscom XPA 1405 (one for me and second for my colleague who is newbie in world of windows smart phones).
Since I bought them I realized that one of them often search for network when network signal is not EXCELLENT. At the same place one have signal second don't have or signal, or signal is poor, no bars, just one signal dot and provider name can be seen on display. Also I wasn't able to switch band to GSM or when I switch it to GSM device freezes. After that when I turn on phone again I don't have any signal.
I tried to solve problem with refreshing original Swisscom firmware - I found link in one thread from this site (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395426)
But after that nothing good happens, radio version is newer but signal is still very poor.
After that i tried flashin my phone with other radio roms I found on this site. I was able to install only two versions
Radio Update: Radio Only 1.38 Radio Only 1.54.30.10 (I found those links in section for FutureShock's WM 6.1). When I try to install any other radio I often receive error invalid id etc. I must notice that I used SPL 7.77 and that my phone was application unlocked before I attempted to flash it (all steps for unlocking was passed successfully).
One more notice: phone is in very good condition, so I think that my problem is not hardware related.
I don't have idea what else I can do. maybe to copy whole radio & OS rom from second device which is working excellent?? Is there way to do that? I read about that for other devices but I don't know how to do it for my phone. Is that safe to do?
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I bought phones from guy who sells second hand phones. I have only his number, which now is not available, so I couldn't return my phone
Yes I'm fool but I must live with it. Now I hope I will find solution, with your help, for my problem or my phone will gather dust in the box waiting to be dissembled for spare parts =================================================================
Thank you in advance and best regards!!!
maybe your phone have some hardware problems! repair it !

ATT Tilt- possible radio problems, total noob needs help

Hi guys, I really did search first, I promise. I have been having connectivity issues (not making calls, lost data connections, etc...) since I updated to the ATT Official Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM (3.57.502.2 WWE) with radio version 1.65.21.18. I am trying to determine if I need to upgrade my radio version. I found the thread with all the radio versions for my phone but don't know anything about them. I did get that I should try different ones until I find one that works for me. So do I need to install the HardSPL on my phone (or did the Official ATT rom upgrade do that already)? From there do I run that RUU.exe file on the desktop (or what)? It would be great if someone could put this in super simple terms for me.
Thanks in advance,
-Max
one word for your info, "WIKI"
I did look over the wiki for some time, here is my hang up. Jockyw2001 posted in an SPL thread that "SPL3.56 is part of the latest AT&T Rom which is dated June 6. 2008" So since I did the official ATT upgrade and my ROM date is 07/17/08, does that mean that I already have SPL 3.56 on my device? I can not find a post about how to determine what SPL version (if any) is installed on my device. If SPL is already installed, is there any danger in installing an older version of SPL or reinstalling one?
Thanks again
-Max
maxjenius211 said:
Hi guys, I really did search first, I promise. I have been having connectivity issues (not making calls, lost data connections, etc...) since I updated to the ATT Official Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM (3.57.502.2 WWE) with radio version 1.65.21.18. I am trying to determine if I need to upgrade my radio version. I found the thread with all the radio versions for my phone but don't know anything about them. I did get that I should try different ones until I find one that works for me. So do I need to install the HardSPL on my phone (or did the Official ATT rom upgrade do that already)? From there do I run that RUU.exe file on the desktop (or what)? It would be great if someone could put this in super simple terms for me.
Thanks in advance,
-Max
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So you are saying that the stock rom and stock radio are not working correctly, no cooked roms or other carrier radios?
Did the problems start right after you updated?
Oh and your problem seems similar to the one in this thread here, well least is sounds similar to me anyways...
SavageWolf said:
So you are saying that the stock rom and stock radio are not working correctly, no cooked roms or other carrier radios?
Did the problems start right after you updated?
Oh and your problem seems similar to the one in this thread here, well least is sounds similar to me anyways...
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Yup, stock radio and rom as suggested by ATT, whom their customer service now claims they do not support WM6.1. I've never used a cooked rom and really only come here for device information and applications. I did have problems before I upgraded the rom but they have much worse since. The thread you posted is similar but they mostly talk about an "H" connection. I am in the DC metro area (USA) and get 3G all the time now, I wonder if that is part of the problem, I never get an EDGE network signal anymore.
Well... I just found THIS buried over on the ATT support forums
Clp1970 01-21-2009 10:33:16 AM
I guess we just got 3G network here. I haven't been able to make/receive calls for 5 days now. Tech support supposedly looking into issue. My phone switches bewteen 3G and EDGE constantly. Anyone else having this issue? What was the resolution? I don't want a refurbished Tilt if they can't come to a resolution (why would I want the same darn phone if it doesn't work well with 3G as advertised?) I have already drove 20 minutes to the nearest store for a new SIM card..which did no good. There isn't anyway of turning off 3G network unless I install software I have seen mentioned on this forum and well, I don't know about that...I paid for this phone to do what it said, and it isn't.
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And this is the reply to it over there....
tilteduser 01-21-2009 08:42:13 PM
Common problem that can be either due to problems with the rollout or that the local towers cannot handle 3G as effectively or at a greater distance as the same tower could for Edge. These are some related threads and posts but there are a lot more. As noted in these posts if there is a local AT&T store run by AT&T then you might pop in and confirm some of the problems with them.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...lar&message.id=103583&query.id=659420#M103583
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...lar&message.id=103054&query.id=659420#M103054
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...gular&message.id=92693&query.id=660536#M92693
The tendency is to blame the phone but the reality is often different and that includes from customer support who offered to swap my phone several times but this obviously would not work because it affected many other users as well differing phone manufacturers and models.
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Timing of it is close enough to make me wonder, but I had been using HSDPA.. But I have been getting the same problems you are talking about when the phone is set to 3g as well. The other thing that is starting to make me think its something ATT did to their network is that the OP from the thread that I linked on here lives 20 mins west of my location, and I am 15-20 mins north of DC... I may go to one of the local att stores and see what they have to say (tho that means for me that I get to flash my phone back to the stock rom )

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