Hi,
I'm trying to upgrade my radio rom. At first everything seems fine but after the upgrade process is at about 30%, I get error no. 114. I think that maybe a part of my rom is broken, so I'd like to change the allocation of my roms. I'd like to have the extented rom part as new radio rom and vice versa.
Is that possible? If yes, how is it done?
thx for your help
PECK
sorry to disappoint you, but no, that is not possible.
start the other way around, do not try to bypass a problem by creating a new one, try solving the problem first. why would the radio rom abort in the middle of the upgrade process?
- do you use the right upgrade tools?
- do you use the right radio rom?
- did you take care of everything else there is about upgrading a rom (bootloader, active sync kill...)?
- are you able to flash another os rom?
...whatever comes to mind when flashing roms, because this problem will not be any different after all.
@ chef_tony:
I've no problem with upgrading the OS or the extented rom! thats why i think that maybe the flash chip is broken!
I tried many different upgrading tools, even one of yours!
I don't know the current language id of my device! Originally it was a german XDA III! How can I check the current language id and how can I change it? is it possible that I have this problem because of a wrong language id?
thx in advance
PECK
i would guess it couldn't have anything to do with the country id, error 114 is radio rom update error.
btw, you get to see the inofficial country id everytime you soft reset the device, and in the bottom right corner it says something like WWE, or GER, for instance. or, when you connect the device and run getdevicedata.exe from the ruu folder, which is done before the upgrade, to show you the "from:" and "to:" numbers.
but: i just got another idea.
do you actually take out the sim card, before trying to upgrade the radio?
is your device sim unlocked?
have you played around with different bluetooth stacks?
have you performed a hard reset before trying to upgrade the radio?
have you tried upgrading the radio from the stock o2 rom wm2003?
ok, that was more than one idea, and downgrading seems like a lot of work, but it is worth a shot. if you spend days flashing (or trying to) over and over again anyways, you might as well try that, would mean 2 extra upgrading sessions, but what is that, like an hour?
oh, and what radio rom does the device have now, stock? or is it a newer one already?
and why do you think you need to upgrade the radio rom anyways? phone not working, maybe the problems lie deeper and that could be why the upgrade process can't work in the first place!
"don't confuse an original symptom with the sickness from the drugs we gave him" as dr. house, would say
hi,
the device is unlocked! there was no sim card inserted during the upgrade; i just tryed with one but I get the same error at 32% progress...
it doesn't work with the original rom, also!
it would be fine if the stock rom was installed, but unfortunately i don't have installed any radio rom whatsoever!
windows mobile device information says that i don't have a radio rom and no protocol installed!
oh, for pete's sake, i'm sorry.
when i asked you about the sim card being inserted, i thought of taking the card out, if you hadn't done before, should have written that. many people have problems when having a sim card or sd card inserted, i didn't want to suggest to put one in! that can never do good, either nothing happens or it gets worse, i really shouldn't have forgotten that.
it doesn't work with the original rom, also!
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yeah, but does the stock rom itself work? i mean, the stock rom is a so called baked rom, meaning it contains a rom, an extrom and a radio rom, while the cooked roms here only contain the actual rom, so the os. i mean, you could try and extract the radio from the stock rom and try and flash that. it would give you a radio back! or if that doesn't work either, try flashing the entire stock rom, if that works without problems and then you'd have a radio, it means that your issue is too strange to think about, but still you can delete the extrom again and flash another rom without harming the original radio.
wouldn't that be a step forward?
btw. what radio rom are you trying to flash?
if it is just one, you try over and over, are you absolutely certain, this is for the BA? which version is it? what was the original file name of the exe? where did you get it? have you tried re-downloading it, maybe the file is really broken!
hi,
i tryed many different rom versions, and i'm pretty sure they are for the blueangel!
do you know, where i can get a cooked rom for my xda 3?
first, to be clear about that, as mentioned before, cooked roms consist only of the operating system itself and contain neither a radio rom nor an extrom. so about every rom offered here is a cooked rom. but that won't solve your problem, since, as mentioned, there is no radio included. that is why i suggested for you to try the original radio from the shipped rom, and then the entire shipped rom, to determine, whether the radio rom flashes, when it comes after an nk.nbf rom, which would mean, that from now on, you'd have to "bake" roms yourself, by taking cooked roms and adding the radio, so to not lose it. when you can actually flash wm2003 you can also try flashing other radios with the original BAupgradeut, because in contrast to os roms, there should be no limitations to the radio roms, as far as i know.
Change WM german to english or spanish
Hi! I´m new in the forum, please i need some help, i have a qtek 9090 bought in germany so it has a windows mobile in German. Can you help me to change the ROM to an english or spanish version.
The info is:
ROM version: 1.40.01 GER
ROM datum:03/10/05
Radio version: 1.12.00
Protocol version 1337.42
Extended ROM version: 1.40.750 GER
Model: PH20B
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI 353030001525302
Can you explain me step by step or suggest me a page wuere i could find some instructions, i have another problem too, I don´t have a usb cable for it, please help me
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Hi,
I've flashed my Vario with the Qtek update that has Exchange push. The thing is have I done the right thing, I just unlocked it and CID and then flashed it.
Having read the forums a bit it seems i should have preserved the T-Mobile radio update somehow and whatever else? How can I do this and also can someone direct me to the last release of the T-Mobile update as they have withdrawn it from the Website but if I just need the radio out of the ROM then it should not be a problem.
Please advise!!!
i dont understand why you need radio from t-bomile :roll:
I read that it has a newer radio version. From reading what other people have done it seems they've used the Qtek ROM but kept other aspects using a thing called aWizard which i havent.
You can run just about any ROM/Radio ROM mixture you want. I’m not sure what you’re worried about? Are you actually experiencing a problem? You didn’t mention that the device was running abnormally. If you have read of others using a diff Radio ROM it’s not because that’s what you’re “supposed” to do but rather others feeling that they get better results by using diff versions.
For instance, I have the latest test ROM on my 9100 and the radio signal was crap with the 1.13.x radio ROM so I downgraded to the previous qtek version. Then just for ****s & giggles I loaded the latest Cingular radio ROM and have found that this combination works best for me. My service is through Tmobile and I have not had a problem running any ROM or radio ROM just some work better than others FOR ME. It’s up to you to decide which combination you like best.
Hope that helps.
I like that... I need to remember this one "for ****s and giggles".
hi, i have got few questions reagrding upgrading rom.
i ahev been reading this forum for a week or so in order to choose best Rom and upgarde my wizard. right now i am using t-mobile rom which was preinstaled on my device.
i am really confused with this whole rom upgrading.
1.Does Rom contain extrom and radio rom ?
2.if i changemy rom will i change only my rom or extrom as well ?
3. can i upgrade only my rom and leave the extrom as it is ?
4. if after hard reste i will perform soft rest before device try to instal costimization will i have all the application insatled like word, msn ect. or do i have to instal them on my own ?
5.whicih rom, extrom and radio rom do u recomand.
sorry for being newbe
cheers, matt
cudo said:
hi, i have got few questions reagrding upgrading rom.
i ahev been reading this forum for a week or so in order to choose best Rom and upgarde my wizard. right now i am using t-mobile rom which was preinstaled on my device.
i am really confused with this whole rom upgrading.
1.Does Rom contain extrom and radio rom ?
2.if i changemy rom will i change only my rom or extrom as well ?
3. can i upgrade only my rom and leave the extrom as it is ?
4. if after hard reste i will perform soft rest before device try to instal costimization will i have all the application insatled like word, msn ect. or do i have to instal them on my own ?
5.whicih rom, extrom and radio rom do u recomand.
sorry for being newbe
cheers, matt
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Here's my take:
1. Sometimes. You have to understand what you have before you download. Each string of posts generally refers to different ROMs. Until lately, the ROMs were the whole package (bootloader, Core OS, Phone and Ext ROM). Most folks want the latest OS possible, but want the phone part from an older ROM, so in some cases the phone part of the ROM has been split out as a separate installation. In other cases, Ext ROMs have been undated and distributed by themselves.
2. Depends on what ROM you've got. If you have the all-in-one type, everything gets wiped out and upgraded. Even if you do a backup, chances are its no good because the backup was for the old OS and is incompatible with the new OS. If you install just a phone or Ext ROM, the core OS and all your settings SHOULD be left alone. However just this week some goob couldn't run the right files in the Phone upgrade and nearly bricked his phone, then pissed all over the other guy trying to help...(reference the Great KeithT Rant of '06)
3. Assume you're talking about upgrading the Core OS and leaving the Ext ROM as is. Don't know of a way to do this--it hasn't been mentioned as a possibility in the Wizard upgrade forum in the past few months AFAIK. I think this is highly unlikely anyway, as the Core OS ROM is really in charge of everything. You'll want the match the Ext ROM with whatever Cell provider you have, and there are more than enough all-in-one ROMs to suit nearly every carrier. I'd suggest searching: "T-Mobile ROM upgrade" or whatever provider you have to get a Core OS/Phone/ExtROM all together.
4. Many applications are included in the Core OS ROM, like pocket Word, Excel, mail, etc. I think MSN is included in the Ext ROM, but not sure. Anyway, just got to try it and find out!
5. This is a little tougher. I recommend the latest Core OS matched with an Ext ROM for your cell provider. There is some debate over the best phone ROMs (see recent posts in this forum) depending on the towers in your area. Note, the latest Core OS doesn't necessarily have the highest version number. Someone leaked a Cingular ROM v2.25, then another TMo ROM v2.24 was actually a later build. Diff providers have different numbering schemes.
Good luck, read a bunch, and feel a little comfortable with what you're doing before you leap. Lots of folks here will help if you get in trouble, but be expected not have your head up your arse before asking for help!
So, what's it mean when you run GetDeviceData.Exe and all you get in your ../windows/devicedata.txt file is "PH20B" ?
Strange, huh? I've tried it a couple of times. Always the same... Nothing but "PH20B". I'm also having the "No GSM" in the boot screen problem, and can't upgrade (well, load AT ALL!) my radio stack. In my device info screen the OS and Extended info are right, but Protocal and Radio are both blank now. This has all happened after trying to do a ROM upgrade tonight.
1. What (exactly) device you own? What was DeviceData BEFORE first upgrade?
2. What ROM you had, and which one you tried to load?
3. How did you do that (what procedure)? Have you omitted any steps?
Lets say you really own PH20B (Blueangel) then if the radio is inactive the devicedata.txt will not output the info from it. Reflash radio only
Also this may happen if you have flashed PH20A (Harrier) and you flashed WM5, go back to WM2003 and all will work fine
jakubd said:
1. What (exactly) device you own? What was DeviceData BEFORE first upgrade?
2. What ROM you had, and which one you tried to load?
3. How did you do that (what procedure)? Have you omitted any steps?
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Answers:
1: It is a HTC BlueAngel. It's one of those with just "PocketPC" on the front. No cell provider branding. I bought it off ebay last year. Don't know what the file showed before. Never had a problem, so I never looked.
2: Was running a I-Mate ROM since I bought it. But the radio was really old. The radio version was like .9xx . Don't remember exactly what. SHould have written it down. But it was less than 1.00, I know that for sure. I was upgrading to the Siemens 1.33 ROM with the 1.15 radio added on.
3: Used MaUpgradUt_NoID. Never been able to use BaUpgradeUt. It's always given a country ID error, but Ma..NoID has always worked before.
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Lets say you really own PH20B (Blueangel) then if the radio is inactive the devicedata.txt will not output the info from it. Reflash radio only
Also this may happen if you have flashed PH20A (Harrier) and you flashed WM5, go back to WM2003 and all will work fine
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Yes. It is a blue angel for sure. See my reply above.
It's always been WM2003, and all I get when I try to flash ANY radio rom version to it now is a country ID error.
flash with noid app
maupgradeut_noid.exe
Yep. Already tried that. In fact, that's the ONLY way I've been able to do any upgrades at all since I bought the phone. Never have found a ROM that would work with BAupgradeUt.exe. Strange thing is, I can load the OS and EXT ROM's no problem using Ma..NoID.exe... Just not the Radio ROM. Even using NoID when I try to load a Radio ROM, it dies with a country code error. I believe the error is N-N-50-50-50 if that means anything to anyone. Any more ideas? I've tried all the obvious things I could think of. I wonder if maybe I could use a null data field in editfix.bat? That is, instead of using real data values from devicedata.txt like you normally would, replace the "???" in the .bat file with " ". Anyone know if that's even possible? Or should I just try taking it up to WM5, then back to 2003?
Thanks for all the thought and effort so far folks.
Hello everyone and sorry for starting a new thread with so many threads already about installing custom ROMs. So sorry again....
First of all I want to say that I have installed Saturday my first custom ROM.
1. I installed HardSPL
2. I installed ROM (I got an error first time because my usb got diconnected - tricolour boot screen and an error code - could not see it; second time everything worked fine and I have now a new great looking ROM
3. I did not installed Radio.
1st question: Do I have to install Radio everytime I install a new ROM or is it ok if I keep my old Radio? - the phone works just fine.
Second question: Do I have to HardSPL everytime I install a new ROM?
Please be kind and reply to my questions even if it must have been already posted in some thread.
rarely can i answer a question but yours are easy LOL
You don't need to do your radio because the radio you have is untouched by roms.
Likewise if you do a radio it wont change your rom.
Radio's probably will not make much diffrence.
Once you have Hard spl it is done.
You can then flash as many roms as you want , but Hard Spl is just once
No and No.
Thank you guys.
The radio is stored on a different part of the memory then the ROM, so it doesn't get replaced when you flash a ROM (unless the ROM specifically includes it, like the new "official leaked" ATT ROM). And custom ROMs will never include the radio, that I know of.
A newer radio version MAY get you better battery life or GPS reception. But it can be very specific to your geographic location. It your choice whether to update your radio or not, its certainly not required. If you want, you are free to experiment, as you can always go back to the old radio if the new one doesn't work out. The process for flashing a new radio is essentially the same as flashing a ROM, except the actual process if done very fast.
As already mentioned, you only need to HardSPL once. The only way phone will become SPL locked back to factory condition is if you specifically do so using the provided relocker program on the SPL thread (for instance, to return the phone for warranty repair).
So my problem is - I put android on my htc tytn II and it worked (well kinda) but anyway I decided to switch back to Windows Mobile...
I installed 1.27.x.x radio , found a Windows Mobile 6 ROM and put (Like in the instructions ) Kaisimg.nbh(renamed from ruu_signed.nbh) and Kaisdiag.nbh to my SD card and then started flashing... It flashed smth,rebooted automatically and started booting android again...
Then I hold again camera button + power+ reset and since then when I put EVERY .nbh file on my sd card and try to flash it it STUCK on "Loading.." If I try to flash it with USB It stays at 0%.
The only exeption is if I try to flash from USB the rom that I tried to flash before from my sd card.. then it starts 0%..1% and reboot the phone...
P.S: Please help me...I think my device is not Broken but I dont know what should I do to fix it...
To flash back to WM from android put your kaiser into bootloader (multi colored screen) Then connect to usb. Download any WM build that is recent (I suggest Phoenix 3 for this, you can flash whatever you want later). After you download it open and run the included RUU that came with it and it will flash it on there.
hmm, I also had experienced the similar problem on my 1st time flashing back to WinMo.
When you are trying to flash via USB cable and the process stopped at 1% I guess there is also a message about "Invalid vender ID" right?
and if the text in your bootloader (tricolor screen) doesn't mention anything about hard such as "3.29.0000" (not "3.29.hard")
then
you've lost your hard SPL that's why you cant flash any .nbh to your phone.
I had managed to solve this problem by flashing stock WM rom for kaiser. The rom also has to be suitable for your phone, I mean if your kaiser is originally from France, then use French kaiser stock rom. Or if you are using AT&T Tilt use kaiser cingular stock rom.
you can find the list of shipped roms for kaiser here :
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Kaiser/
If you still have the "invalid vender ID" error message, try another stock ROM.
Thanks man you're my hero! I though I lost my phone.. anyway i bought new one - Nokia 2730 Classic but Ill sell the kaiser...
Thanks Anyway ... you're god!
Have the same problem...
Firstly, I'd like to point that the reason for the hard SPL getting overwritten by an original SPL is NOT HAVING UPDATED HARDSPL to a newer version that prevents accidental overwrite. This is instructed in the previous steps before actually installing Android. That was my mistake (I had HardSPL 1.0 OliPof), and now I can't flash no rom to my Kaiser (which thankfully works quite well in Android).
What happens (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that "KAISDIAG.NBH" is a modified, standalone hardSPL that will flash to the phone the SPL that comes with the "KAISIMG.NBH" you put in your SD card with "KAISDIAG.NBH"). In my case, I used the WinMo 6.1 spanish version 3.29.412.0, which, resulted in my phone being flashed with the original SPL 3.29.
Now, it seems many users have fixed this locating the correct stock rom and flashing it in their Kaisers. But to others, like myself, nothing seems to work. I believe that this is because we not only need a stock rom for our specific Kaiser model, but also it has to be compatible with the SPL that accidentally got installed in the phone. The problem is what if such rom doesn't even exists?
I'm really thankfull for all I learned by reading the forums (and from my mistakes ) and I know I'm in no position to make requests, but here goes what I think could help the users like myself to fix this, if posible:
1) Guide to identify what model of Kaiser we have (maybe it's already there, I just couldn't find it)
2) Complete list (or lists) of stock roms (There are some around, those are easy to find I think, but it doesn't hurt to share different sources)
3) Something like a JumpSPL for Android would be more than awesome...
Thanks in advance to everybody, sorry for my own stupidity . Any idea or help would be much appreciated,
Daniel
hmm, I'm not sure if it has to be compatible with the SPL.
In my case, I was flashing a very old WWE stock rom which has original SPL 1.56.
I also had been very desperate because any stock rom I found seems doesn't work and I even didn't know where originally my kaiser came from because I get it from my uncle. So I tried to flash any WWE stock rom I could found but nothing works. I read from Wikipedia that based on my phone model (Kais100), this model was only sold as AT&T tilt for US. But the problem is my phone is HTC branded, not AT&T tilt. Well, based on this information I also tried to flash some cingular stock rom but the result was just the same.
After contacting HTC Customer care, I know more info about my phone. They told me that based on my phone product ID, my kaiser was originally shipped for US, but unfortunately they can't provide me stock rom for my phone model. So I searched myself but this time I had better objective : to search HTC branded rom but for US.
finally, after days of search. I've found the rom that is suitable for my phone. Its called HTC WWE Brightpoint US which has original SPL 3.29 at the bottom of the list on the website I told you on my previous post.
few weeks ago I also accidentally overwrite my HardSPL again, but this time I did it with the stock ROM which has original SPL 3.29. But this problem also solved by flashing the stock ROM I've found before via USB cable.
So, I guess it has nothing to do with spl version.
Keep tying don't give up.
Update: Step 1 completed! YAY
Using the serial number and some obscure google searching, I came to the conclusion my KAIS130 is australian. Cheers, mate!
I verified this by being able to download stock roms from the australian HTC site with my Kaiser serial number. But at the moment of writing this, have downloaded two roms and no luck yet. 5 minutes remaining for the third one... Wish me luck...
Daniel.
Well... Now what?
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
cuartetoraro said:
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
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sorry to hear that..
well, extract the .nbh from exe and flash it via sd card is the method that made me overwrite my hard SPL in the first place.
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
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sorry to hear that..
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
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No, it's HTC unbranded. Now, something strange here: the label behind the battery has the serial number: HT830GB06075 and the P/N (guess it's part number) :99HCY194-00, but to the left of the camera, another label with the part number: 36H00563-00M and below says DATE:061107(TB02)/US.
I don't know if that's normal, but it caught my atention because my phone seems to have been dissasembled (little label over screw is teared). Maybe my Kaiser isn't Australian after all...