So, what's it mean when you run GetDeviceData.Exe and all you get in your ../windows/devicedata.txt file is "PH20B" ?
Strange, huh? I've tried it a couple of times. Always the same... Nothing but "PH20B". I'm also having the "No GSM" in the boot screen problem, and can't upgrade (well, load AT ALL!) my radio stack. In my device info screen the OS and Extended info are right, but Protocal and Radio are both blank now. This has all happened after trying to do a ROM upgrade tonight.
1. What (exactly) device you own? What was DeviceData BEFORE first upgrade?
2. What ROM you had, and which one you tried to load?
3. How did you do that (what procedure)? Have you omitted any steps?
Lets say you really own PH20B (Blueangel) then if the radio is inactive the devicedata.txt will not output the info from it. Reflash radio only
Also this may happen if you have flashed PH20A (Harrier) and you flashed WM5, go back to WM2003 and all will work fine
jakubd said:
1. What (exactly) device you own? What was DeviceData BEFORE first upgrade?
2. What ROM you had, and which one you tried to load?
3. How did you do that (what procedure)? Have you omitted any steps?
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1: It is a HTC BlueAngel. It's one of those with just "PocketPC" on the front. No cell provider branding. I bought it off ebay last year. Don't know what the file showed before. Never had a problem, so I never looked.
2: Was running a I-Mate ROM since I bought it. But the radio was really old. The radio version was like .9xx . Don't remember exactly what. SHould have written it down. But it was less than 1.00, I know that for sure. I was upgrading to the Siemens 1.33 ROM with the 1.15 radio added on.
3: Used MaUpgradUt_NoID. Never been able to use BaUpgradeUt. It's always given a country ID error, but Ma..NoID has always worked before.
xplode said:
Lets say you really own PH20B (Blueangel) then if the radio is inactive the devicedata.txt will not output the info from it. Reflash radio only
Also this may happen if you have flashed PH20A (Harrier) and you flashed WM5, go back to WM2003 and all will work fine
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Yes. It is a blue angel for sure. See my reply above.
It's always been WM2003, and all I get when I try to flash ANY radio rom version to it now is a country ID error.
flash with noid app
maupgradeut_noid.exe
Yep. Already tried that. In fact, that's the ONLY way I've been able to do any upgrades at all since I bought the phone. Never have found a ROM that would work with BAupgradeUt.exe. Strange thing is, I can load the OS and EXT ROM's no problem using Ma..NoID.exe... Just not the Radio ROM. Even using NoID when I try to load a Radio ROM, it dies with a country code error. I believe the error is N-N-50-50-50 if that means anything to anyone. Any more ideas? I've tried all the obvious things I could think of. I wonder if maybe I could use a null data field in editfix.bat? That is, instead of using real data values from devicedata.txt like you normally would, replace the "???" in the .bat file with " ". Anyone know if that's even possible? Or should I just try taking it up to WM5, then back to 2003?
Thanks for all the thought and effort so far folks.
Related
OK, been trying to figure out this ROM update hotchpotch for a while now, and while I have some better knowledge, some of it still isn't clear.
Before you say use the search, I have, but as I say, it's all so random and all over the place it's unclear.
OK, so I have an M2000. I am running as follows:
Operator Version 5.12.1.139
ROM Versn 1.12.22 WWE
ROM date 09/27/04
Radio Versn 1.04.00
Protocol Versn 1337.35
ExtROM Versn 1.12.139.WWE
BT v1.0.0 Build 2200
Now looking at what versions are available, this seems pretty old, right.
Now as I understand it, the ExtROM can be updated by unlocking it, replacing the files from the 1.31 archive, re-locking and doing a hard reset - then once it's booted it'll go through the customisation procedure like it normally does, only with the updated ExtROM (which I can customise/cook to what updates I want).
OK, so I understand that much - however...then I have a mismatch between ExtROM and Normal ROM, right?
ROM would be 1.12.22 and the ExtRom would be 1.31.XX yes? Is this a problem?
How do I go about updating the main ROM to 1.31 also? The same goes for radio and bluetooth. I know full well that my bluetooth is well out of date - but there are so many versions, most of which are unhelpfully named. One I see said 1.00.3500, which is what I hear is what I want, but what are all the others about?
Can anyone help put it into plain english for me, without saying "Use the search" or posting a link to wiki?
Thanks.
If you have a look at this thread, it gives you a process you can follow. It is for an older set of updates. But if you have a look on the FTP site and pick full update files with the 1.31 CE rom and 1.06.02 Radio rom, you should be able to follow it through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16251&highlight=
OK, i had a look through, and it sorta makes more sense, but the problem is the updates are so different I don't get it :S
For example, the file names on the ftp are so cryptic it doesn't help.
I have downloaded 1.33.10WWE.rar which is apparently a CE ROM from the SX66....
...however, I am aware the SX66 doesn't have a camera - does this matter?
Furthermore, in the bat file, there was a reference to an ms_.nbf file - I cant find out what this is. Do I need it?
I'm assuming nk_.nbf is the ROM itself.
Also, with regards to the radio ROM I have downloaded Radio 1.06.02 Edited for German Tmobile MDAIII.rar
What does editing it for German T-Mobile do? Does this have an effect?
Basically I could probably figure it out if everything had standard names. So far I don't think I've seen any naming conventions for the files, so I'm at a loss as to what I need.
OK, just found a useful page here:
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=154
that managed to explain it a bit better.
So, it seems that the ms_.nbf is essentially the extrom, yes?
So how can I take the ExtROM Orange_UK_SPVM2000_Ext_ROM_131124.zip
and use it as an ms_.nbf?
or have I got it all wrong?
I have just got that new O2 one that was released recently, but I don't want O2 stuff plastered all over my phone...
OK, as a starting point I just tried to update the radio rom to 1.06.02.
After getting a little stuck I managed it ok, and it seems to be working fine....
Now all I need help with is figuring out how to get the other 2 bits sorted. i'm not too worried about the nk file (although it would appear it needs a password, which I'm unsure where to obtain)
but this ms file has thrown me way off course. Would I need to say, use the O2 one, and then re-do my ExtROM folder with the Orange stuff?
Assuming your device has the 1.31 rom on it, and Radio 1.06.02 (as you say you have installed. Then it's pretty easy to update the ExtRom to the latest Orange one.
Install the Extended Rom Unlocker initially through normal methods, copy the cab and run - ftp://xda:[email protected]_1_22/Tools//xda-developers_Unlocker.CAB. Then under Programs/Extended Rom Tools, click uhide and unlock and do a soft reset.
Download the M2000 ExtRom from ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Extended_Roms/Orange_UK_SPVM2000_Ext_ROM_131124.zip
Go to the root of your device and into the 'Extended Rom' folder, delete the contents and replace with the contents of the zip file. Then Lock and Hide your extended rom and perform a hard reset.
If you haven't got 1.31 CE Rom, then you may wish to follow this method:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=95153&highlight=#95153
Perfect, brilliant. Will give it a try as soon as I have time!
Good time of the day!
I have Orange SPV M2000 France. I received it without radio ROM. OK. I tryed update radio rom to new one from shipped packed (downloaded form this FTP). Device writes Radio ROM Update Error.
OK. I readed all posts about fixing this problem. Now I have not working Bluetooth (License Expired BDA 00:00:00:00:00:00) and no Radio ROM.
Also, sometime, it writes in Model ID filed not PH20B but random chars.
Bootloader version 2.07.
Have any idea how to repair this device?
May be flash it from SD card (but how create it and where I can found images for write to SD card?).
Thank you very mutch.
P.S. All other stuff works fine (I mean that this device works fine as PDA, but no Phone and, now, no Bluetooth).
Help, please.
try to upgrade radio rom using maupgradeut_noid.exe
xplode said:
try to upgrade radio rom using maupgradeut_noid.exe
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Yes. I tryed. As I said I tryed all solutions from forum. No result. It freez on 0% when I use _NoID.
Any idea?
mtty
have you tryed this?
one of the commands cleans your storage, so do a backup first
Thank you. But yes. I tryed it too.
No result.
I think I need full flash for this device.
Sorry, guys. But have you any ideas how to repair my device?
May be somebody can dowload full-flesh from devices and upload it on FTP?
Have you gone through this page and if so what errors did you get and when.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade
Yes. I did.
If I use Type II it reports Radio Update Error at 0%.
If I use Type I it freeze on 0% without reporting error.
If I use original (not NoID) then it reports CountryID error even [CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1 in .ini file.
Well I know for a fact that one user had a real painful radion install.
In the long run ir was a USB issue on his dektop.
I would try a different pc and follow wiki, dont mix your files TYPE I needs the type one update files and the fix.bat.
Type II the no_id
If you mix them it wont work.
Coutnry ID error is solved with Type II and No_id
OK. Thank you. I will try on second PC today.
OK. I tryed last solution. Same result. Radio update error.
I am really sorry. But anybody have solution?
[writing from work in a hurry, so excuse me for not having all my details in front of me]
I'm a long-time avid user/flasher of the Wizard who recently bought an old BA on eBay for my wife. First thing I did was download the xplode WM5 ROM and flash the sucker. Very nice and now up-to-date.
Call volumes sucked, so I checked her Radio version, and it was 1.02 or something ridiculously old. I tried to flash the newer 1.15 Radio Rom using the bootloader app that came with it (MAUUpdate something). I got a country code error, so I added the special line to the config file to cheat.
Now it starts the process and never gets past 0% on radio flash. Just hangs. And then some strange 114 error when it finally dies.
I've tried with the newest MaUpgradeUt_noID files I could find. I even tried the 1.13 Radio ROM with no change.
I even re-flashed to WM2003 and tried to flash just the Radio from there. Kept getting "wrong device" message or connection error or something. I tried multiple times in a row (one post suggested the first time will error but second time will work).
I did SIM unlock just in case (Cingular on Cingular so shouldn't have been a problem).
Any suggestions out there? I think I've tried everything!
And yes, I've read all posts and wiki's. (Usually I read only Wizard, but have extended my reading to cover the BA).
Have you tried downgraging to WM2003 then upgrading to Radio 1.15 then finally back to WM5?
I had upgraded my radio ROM when still on WM2003 and found no problems!
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Have you tried downgraging to WM2003 then upgrading to Radio 1.15 then finally back to WM5?
I had upgraded my radio ROM when still on WM2003 and found no problems!
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yes, I did. mentioned that above.
I get either country code error (or after correcting that per the wiki advice, I get long period of hang followed by an odd error 113. I think.
does device origin matter? my BA is from ebay and the getdeviceinfo.cab leaves me a blank result except model number and a few random numbers...
I take it that when everyone else flashed to WM5, they followed the simple Wiki instructions and everything went fine? I think I got some odd-ball sub-model that is resistant to Radio flash.
Downgrade Your BA to the WM2003SE, then unlock it with xda3_all_unlock-v1.6_138.exe tool (You can find it in the BA forum here with description how to use it) then try to flash the Radio ROM You want....And then You might upgrade to WM 5.x again if only You wish.
I've tried one of the other sim unlock apps already (successfully) without solving the problem (was tried on WM5). I'll try the order of downgrade, unlock, then upgrade and see if it works.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Jeremy how did it go? are you able to upgrade to the latest radio rom? I also have the same problem as you do. Do you mind telling me the steps if you somehow able to upgrade to latest rom?
this worked for me. after you flash to a new rom (like xplode's), do not take out the BA yet. flash to the new 1.15 radio rom. then you can do the no/yes/yes routine.
I'm trying to downgrade my radio firmware, but everytime I flash a lower version number radio it does not seem to take.
The flash completes fully, but when I look at the version number it is still at 1.54.30.10 which I am trying to replace with either 1.54.07.00 or 1.47.30.10.
Anyone know why this is happening and how I can reflash my radio?
xrufusx said:
I'm trying to downgrade my radio firmware, but everytime I flash a lower version number radio it does not seem to take.
The flash completes fully, but when I look at the version number it is still at 1.54.30.10 which I am trying to replace with either 1.54.07.00 or 1.47.30.10.
Anyone know why this is happening and how I can reflash my radio?
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Use MTTY and do a "Task 2a" then flash an official ROM.
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Use MTTY and do a "Task 2a" then flash an official ROM.
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That didn't work. The Radio version still is the same.
Any other ideas or maybe I just need more specific directions?
My phone is unlocked with the CheetahUnlocker (which I believe uses the HardSPL.)
xrufusx said:
I'm trying to downgrade my radio firmware, but everytime I flash a lower version number radio it does not seem to take.
The flash completes fully, but when I look at the version number it is still at 1.54.30.10 which I am trying to replace with either 1.54.07.00 or 1.47.30.10.
Anyone know why this is happening and how I can reflash my radio?
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Where does the 1.54.30.10 Radio ROM come from?
Palm or Hermes?
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Where does the 1.54.30.10 Radio ROM come from?
Palm or Hermes?
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I believe it is a Hermes.
I'm sorry. I don't know the version of Hermes's ROM for recovering.
If you would be lucky, you might find it.
I have not done recover from Locked Hermes's Radio,
because I never flash Hermes's Radio to my Treo750.
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I'm sorry. I don't know the version of Hermes's ROM for recovering.
If you would be lucky, you might find it.
I have not done recover from Locked Hermes's Radio,
because I never flash Hermes's Radio to my Treo750.
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How about radio 1.54.07 chaimd? I got it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1563015&postcount=1
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How about radio 1.54.07 chaimd? I got it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1563015&postcount=1
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I don't recommend 1.54.xx.xx.
Perhaps, Unlocked 1.48.xx.xx from Hermes might be able to downgrade.
My friends, who unlocked Treo750's SPL 6M before Hard-SPL, have several Treo750s.
One of his Treo750 has a fully locked Hermes's Radio. We can't reflash its Radio.
Is there any way through mtty to erase the radio rom so it will reload when a new rom is flashed?
Haven't really seen a definite answer here to the original post...
I actually am trying to do the exact opposite of the OP.
I currently have Radio: 1.54.07.00 and am wanting to upgrade to the 1.54.30.00 but can't do it anyway I try whether it's using RUU interface or placing on a formatted SD card and changing it to CHEEIMG.nbh.
It runs through the process, and acts as if it is updating/changing the Radio Rom, but nothing changes.
Can I change my Radio or not?
Treo 750 unlocked w/ CheetahUnlocker and Running WM6.1 Full version.
Thanks for the help!
btw, I read a lot of threads and posts... and read the Heremes Radio Wiki - just can't seem to find a definitive answer. Also when I flashed the Radio after using CheetahUnlocker it flashed the Radio w/o issue.
Run through the cheetahunlocker again (all stages, regardless if they error out).
Then use the kaiserRUU to load the new radio .nbh
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Run through the cheetahunlocker again (all stages, regardless if they error out).
Then use the kaiserRUU to load the new radio .nbh
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Thanks tmknight... you're always helpful!
cheetahunlocker won't erase all my stuff on the treo if I recall correctly, right???
i'm pretty sure it won't, but it's been a while since I used it last...
thanks again
Please,after flash any version ROM and APPLY CheetahUnlocker (WM5 or WM6) my TREO view in Setting/System/About this:
WHAT IS WRONG???
EDIT:
With flash WM5,treo is VERY SLOW.....croling,open menu etc. se this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384531
With flash WM6 all O.K
Bootloader is CRASH?
After rest treo view error services.exe,slow thumbail on images not work AS synchronize NOT WORK and many
BUGs..HELP PLEASE
The problem
As alluded to by Chaimd, that particular radio is locked and will not allow for radio flashing unless an SPL is loaded which can perform an authentication function. I'm 99% sure no one has modified a cheetah SPL to do so. Someone like pof or olipro (oh boy are they gonna kill me for this) would be familiar with problem, but unlikely inclined to work on it since they don't have this device.
I haven't seen any workable method around it. The cheetah bootloader doesn't support task 2a.
sux...
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Is there any way through mtty to erase the radio rom so it will reload when a new rom is flashed?
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No sir. The rest of this response is merely to reach the minimum 10 character limit. meh.
tmknight said:
Run through the cheetahunlocker again (all stages, regardless if they error out).
Then use the kaiserRUU to load the new radio .nbh
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Well, after many attempts - this does not work for me.
I can't even get to Step 3 of the CheetahUnlocker...it errors out after Step 2, and does not let me continue.
I read something about once you flash the 1.54.xx.xx Radio Rom you can't change it b/c the Cheetahunlocker has been able to authenticate the newer Radio roms or something like that... is that true??? It seems so, b/c I can't seem to get it to work.
any advice?
thanks again
I also have 1.54.01.00 but I don't know how i got this radio firmware, not a single internet connection on my treo is possible. No matter the version of Win Mob (6 6.1) I use, my Treo 750 just won't transfer data over either 3g or gprs. Calls / sms are possible though.
Wich rom causes to load 1.54.01.00 radio firmware on my treo 750 ? I really wanna know what i did wrong.
Well for everyone that is stuck with that nasty 1.54.01.00 i may have a solution.
I managed to downgrade my treo 750 radio firmware to 1.12.0c.00.
!!!AT OWN RISK!!!
-Run cheetahunlocker only step 1
-continue till the bootscreen (3 colors)
-Removed USB cable
-Don't click Start Update!
Ran official Desktop updater from palm (update version 2.27)
-Went to Temp files (Start --> execute --> type: %temp%
-Went to Palm dir --> 750RecoveryTool dir (is hidden) --> open T750URT (
treo 750 update recovery tool)
-Follow on screen instructions.. After this is got a rather old radio version
Will now try to run the Normal update again.
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Well, after many attempts - this does not work for me.
I can't even get to Step 3 of the CheetahUnlocker...it errors out after Step 2, and does not let me continue.
I read something about once you flash the 1.54.xx.xx Radio Rom you can't change it b/c the Cheetahunlocker has been able to authenticate the newer Radio roms or something like that... is that true??? It seems so, b/c I can't seem to get it to work.
any advice?
thanks again
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Sorry mate, seems it cannot be done with existing tools. I decided 1.54.30.10 is not very stabled and have tried several cobbled together methods to downgrade to 1.54.01.00, all with no success. Seems we must wait for someone with more skills and time to break this one open.
vollemaan said:
Well for everyone that is stuck with that nasty 1.54.01.00 i may have a solution.
I managed to downgrade my treo 750 radio firmware to 1.12.0c.00.
!!!AT OWN RISK!!!
-Run cheetahunlocker only step 1
-continue till the bootscreen (3 colors)
-Removed USB cable
-Don't click Start Update!
Ran official Desktop updater from palm (update version 2.27)
-Went to Temp files (Start --> execute --> type: %temp%
-Went to Palm dir --> 750RecoveryTool dir (is hidden) --> open T750URT (
treo 750 update recovery tool)
-Follow on screen instructions.. After this is got a rather old radio version
Will now try to run the Normal update again.
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Nice find dude. Now there's hope for all who are stucked with radio 154xxx
Hi,
I'm trying to upgrade my radio rom. At first everything seems fine but after the upgrade process is at about 30%, I get error no. 114. I think that maybe a part of my rom is broken, so I'd like to change the allocation of my roms. I'd like to have the extented rom part as new radio rom and vice versa.
Is that possible? If yes, how is it done?
thx for your help
PECK
sorry to disappoint you, but no, that is not possible.
start the other way around, do not try to bypass a problem by creating a new one, try solving the problem first. why would the radio rom abort in the middle of the upgrade process?
- do you use the right upgrade tools?
- do you use the right radio rom?
- did you take care of everything else there is about upgrading a rom (bootloader, active sync kill...)?
- are you able to flash another os rom?
...whatever comes to mind when flashing roms, because this problem will not be any different after all.
@ chef_tony:
I've no problem with upgrading the OS or the extented rom! thats why i think that maybe the flash chip is broken!
I tried many different upgrading tools, even one of yours!
I don't know the current language id of my device! Originally it was a german XDA III! How can I check the current language id and how can I change it? is it possible that I have this problem because of a wrong language id?
thx in advance
PECK
i would guess it couldn't have anything to do with the country id, error 114 is radio rom update error.
btw, you get to see the inofficial country id everytime you soft reset the device, and in the bottom right corner it says something like WWE, or GER, for instance. or, when you connect the device and run getdevicedata.exe from the ruu folder, which is done before the upgrade, to show you the "from:" and "to:" numbers.
but: i just got another idea.
do you actually take out the sim card, before trying to upgrade the radio?
is your device sim unlocked?
have you played around with different bluetooth stacks?
have you performed a hard reset before trying to upgrade the radio?
have you tried upgrading the radio from the stock o2 rom wm2003?
ok, that was more than one idea, and downgrading seems like a lot of work, but it is worth a shot. if you spend days flashing (or trying to) over and over again anyways, you might as well try that, would mean 2 extra upgrading sessions, but what is that, like an hour?
oh, and what radio rom does the device have now, stock? or is it a newer one already?
and why do you think you need to upgrade the radio rom anyways? phone not working, maybe the problems lie deeper and that could be why the upgrade process can't work in the first place!
"don't confuse an original symptom with the sickness from the drugs we gave him" as dr. house, would say
hi,
the device is unlocked! there was no sim card inserted during the upgrade; i just tryed with one but I get the same error at 32% progress...
it doesn't work with the original rom, also!
it would be fine if the stock rom was installed, but unfortunately i don't have installed any radio rom whatsoever!
windows mobile device information says that i don't have a radio rom and no protocol installed!
oh, for pete's sake, i'm sorry.
when i asked you about the sim card being inserted, i thought of taking the card out, if you hadn't done before, should have written that. many people have problems when having a sim card or sd card inserted, i didn't want to suggest to put one in! that can never do good, either nothing happens or it gets worse, i really shouldn't have forgotten that.
it doesn't work with the original rom, also!
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yeah, but does the stock rom itself work? i mean, the stock rom is a so called baked rom, meaning it contains a rom, an extrom and a radio rom, while the cooked roms here only contain the actual rom, so the os. i mean, you could try and extract the radio from the stock rom and try and flash that. it would give you a radio back! or if that doesn't work either, try flashing the entire stock rom, if that works without problems and then you'd have a radio, it means that your issue is too strange to think about, but still you can delete the extrom again and flash another rom without harming the original radio.
wouldn't that be a step forward?
btw. what radio rom are you trying to flash?
if it is just one, you try over and over, are you absolutely certain, this is for the BA? which version is it? what was the original file name of the exe? where did you get it? have you tried re-downloading it, maybe the file is really broken!
hi,
i tryed many different rom versions, and i'm pretty sure they are for the blueangel!
do you know, where i can get a cooked rom for my xda 3?
first, to be clear about that, as mentioned before, cooked roms consist only of the operating system itself and contain neither a radio rom nor an extrom. so about every rom offered here is a cooked rom. but that won't solve your problem, since, as mentioned, there is no radio included. that is why i suggested for you to try the original radio from the shipped rom, and then the entire shipped rom, to determine, whether the radio rom flashes, when it comes after an nk.nbf rom, which would mean, that from now on, you'd have to "bake" roms yourself, by taking cooked roms and adding the radio, so to not lose it. when you can actually flash wm2003 you can also try flashing other radios with the original BAupgradeut, because in contrast to os roms, there should be no limitations to the radio roms, as far as i know.
Change WM german to english or spanish
Hi! I´m new in the forum, please i need some help, i have a qtek 9090 bought in germany so it has a windows mobile in German. Can you help me to change the ROM to an english or spanish version.
The info is:
ROM version: 1.40.01 GER
ROM datum:03/10/05
Radio version: 1.12.00
Protocol version 1337.42
Extended ROM version: 1.40.750 GER
Model: PH20B
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI 353030001525302
Can you explain me step by step or suggest me a page wuere i could find some instructions, i have another problem too, I don´t have a usb cable for it, please help me