How do you get this back on, after flashing a HTC rom?
Thanks.
Browse to Orange World on your phone and download the app. Personally, I think its a load of crap myself and with A-GPS, its a license to print money.
Got myself a Touch 3G free from Orange on Thursday, and got stung on data with their so-called "Unique" service, plus we all know what Orange are like for shoving their own crappy firmware on phones, disabling features, and forcing people to gorp at their abismal orange and grey customisation!!
Well, I soon put paid to that, my friend.....
Now running the 2.32 olinex loader, Official European (debranded) 2.33 firmware, with SPB Mobile Shell 3.01 over the top, and TomTom v7.9 for my sat nav. Also got an 8GB card coming on Monday, so happy days are here again...
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Hi,
Where can you get the officiail EU firmware 2.33. ( I believe you mean ROM).
Regards.
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Yes, do tell. I am running 2.32 I think, from the ROM page here.
Where did you get Tom Tom from? It can't be purchased on their web site as a download. It comes on its own card which is pointless as I've already got one.
If you access the Orange website, it doesn't allow downloading as says not valid phone or something like that ...
Quick GPS?? Whats use?
Hello,
I did HSPL and got rid of Orange Unique. I am unaware of using GPS navigation. Just wanted to know what this Quick GPS is? Does anybody know free navigational software (like Tomtom) which I can install on my Jade and play with it.
Second and very important thing I wanted to confirm, if I am able to install Tomtom on my Jade, will I have to pay my mobile service provider for using GPS?
Sorry about my lack of GPS knowledge, kindly reply.
sachinghayal said:
Hello,
Just wanted to know what this Quick GPS is?
Does anybody know free navigational software (like Tomtom) which I can install on my Jade and play with it.
Second and very important thing I wanted to confirm, if I am able to install Tomtom on my Jade, will I have to pay my mobile service provider for using GPS?
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I think Quick GPS is something that helps get a quick lock on the GPS and then stores that data, at htcwiki.com it says "Quick GPS can speed up the amount of time for determining a users GPS position by downloading the latest satellite information via an Internet Connection"
I do not know of any free directional sat nav for win mobile. Google Maps is free though, but does not AFIK give turn by turn directions.
Co-Pilot 8 is rather inexpensive - have a look at their web site alk.com (but read their forum too before committing to a purchase).
No you do not pay for GPS usage to anyone.
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Hi everyone
I am new here and this is my first post, so please go easy on me.
I wanted to start by congratulating all the contributors on this forum on a great job done.
I’ve just ordered an SPV M700 on Orange and have a couple of questions
1- I need to unlock the phone to be able to use an O2 Sim card in it.
2- I want to be able to use The GPS in the phone.
To use the O2 SIM do I just need to do a SIM unlock, or do I have to do a CID unlock to? Err what is CID in the first place
My understanding is that the Orange ROM has the GPS enabled, am I correct? If so, all I have to do is install software like Tomtom Navigator and all should work, right?
As you can see, I am not that technical and do not want to mess the phone up by venturing into un-chartered territories.
Thank you for any help
1, yes you just need a SIM unlock. You will find the necessary tools on this forum to do this.
2, it seems that the current batch of Orange phones are shipping with the gps enabled rom, so yes just install tomtom.
I think CID stands for country ID (or something like that), you only need to unlock this if you intend to install firmware from another country e.g. the gps enabled Depod firmware. Providing your orange supplied phone has their most recent firmware you won't have to worry about this.
I've just found out what orange are doing. ONLY their Business phones have it enabled.
So if you order the phone on a personal account you don't get the GPS enabled.
However if you order it on a business account you can have it.
The third option is to learn French and flash the publicly available french rom to it.
(That's assuming you want it to be supported by orange themselves)
Else use one of the cooked roms and you're sorted.
EDIT: I've just got off the phone to Orange. The third option above would still be covered by insurance. Though if anything goes wrong it would have to be listed as a technical fault and go back to their free post address.
no, you are wrong, i am personal account, the rom is gps enabled
You flashed it to enable it. The GPS ROM is there but with one of the earlier firmware versions which doesn't enable it. (I got my information directly from Orange. If you were lucky enough to get a business phone sent out to you then I'm extremely jealous (and ask you again to upload your firmware ) but after about 40 mins of bouncing me around centers and giving me lame excuses or saying they were the wrong department I finally got a straight answer out of 2 seperate departments saying this was indeed the case)
If you look on the Orange site:
Business:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...s&c=OUKDevice&cid=1044134008063&extarg1=Phone
It can deliver you directly to your meetings, thanks to it's built-in GPS with Sat Nav from Orange.
Personal:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m700/features
No mention of any GPS is listed.
I know the GPS is there and functions as I've used a cooked ROM to enable it.
Plus as has been pointed out you can freely get the Orange France version of the firmware which has GPS enabled.
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
siupiu said:
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
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This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
Forget about solution 2
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Forget about solution 2
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I second that
the-oneil said:
This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
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you may to have a look of this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296327
SPV M700
Just to let you all know:
I just spoke to Orange about upgrading my M600 to M700. Vry nice lady ( after three atempts) has confirmed that M700 has GPS receiver built in. It would not show anywhere on Comms but it is selectable once you install SatNav software and it is on COM9.
So I think that anewers the original question.
Happ Navigating
Got my SPV M700 from Orange yesterday.
I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
So yes, Orange UK ROM is 100% GPS enabled.
the-oneil not all are coming with GPS enabled. I know as I've seen 2 so far which came without the GPS working. Must depend on the batch they send out.
i think that depends on which rom version, that one with the following version must have GPS..
Operator version : 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
Rom date : 01/25/07
Radio version : 1.30.00.01
Protocol version: 32.63.7020.08H
I didn`t have to enable GPS on my M700. I installed a sat nav system ( Navigon MN6) and it connected by itself. I have a black M700 but on a personal account. The black ones were originally only reserved for new business accounts. Don`t know if that is significant.
I have now just installed Route 66 Navigate 7 in place of Navigon but it can`t seem to connect to the GPS receiver. Anyone help with that? I can only find one way to access the GPS seetings, in Systems/connections/GPRS Settings, and the only option is to change from PAP Authentication to CHAP Authentication. I don`t know what the difference between them is ( I`m not a techie!!) but it makes no difference anyway.
Any advice would be appreciated
Don't confuse GPS (Global Positioning by Satellite) with GPRS (General Packet Radio Service). If you mess with the GPRS settings, you may stop your phone from being able to use mobile data.
The M700 doesn't come with the GPS control panel visible, and generally speaking you don't need it to. Windows Mobile 5 comes with a software patch which distributes a GPS signal to any application requiring it, but some GPS applications can't work with this. I presume Route 66 may be one of them (as is TomTom).
Go to your Route 66 settings, and in the GPS setting options, set COM port to COM9 and Baud rate to 57600, which are the default hardware settings for the M700.
Now go to somewhere with a clear view of the sky for about 10 minutes, to allow the program to download all the necessary satellite information.
the-oneil,
I did the same as you with my brothers Trinity but I have a small problem with the internet settings.
I downloaded a cab file from a forum request on this site but it did not work for me and so I then copied the settings from a site called 'filesaveas' and itwork for me except in one way.
When I try to access my brothers Hotmail account via Pocket MSN I could not do it, however when I accessed Hotmail via Internet Explorer it was ok.
So I have some kind of error in the settings somewhere that still needs to be resolved. I contacted O2 for the settings but they would not give them to me because it is not an O2 handset. The screen asks me repeatedly for 'Incoming Email Password', which is exactly the same one as when I use Internet Explorer to acces Hotmail.
So let me know if you get the above working on yours and perhaps I could copy your settings.
Cheers!
And good luck!
Thanks NeilM,
Trouble is, I`ve tried and tried to find somewhere in the Route 66 menu where I can change GPS settings, but no luck. I`ve been checking through the files using File Explorer but can`t find anything anywhere that allows me to do that. Can you suggest somewhere I might find it or would it be pretty obvious, like going into the main menu in Route 66 when it`s running, and looking for a GPS settings tab. There isn`t one. It has a tab called GPS information but that just gives GPS status info, no way of changing any settings. Guess I`m stuffed!!
According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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Thats great, thanks for letting me know, I can stop messing around with it now and go for something else or get a bluetooth receiver. The built in receiver isn`t that great anyway. I read somewhere that it was an 8 channel receiver. I have tried Navigon MN6 already with my M700 and I noticed that it`s positioning leaves a lot to be desired. I wondered if it might be something to do with the receiver as I didn`t expect it to be a SirfstarIII. So I might at some point just get myself a decent quality bluetooth SirfstarIII. Any recomendations?
Cheers for now
Anyone able to get TomTom 6 to work on the Kaiser? I get an error that its not a valid PDA. If TomTom is not compatible is their any other program that people Recommend for GPS? I just dont want to pay monthly for Telenav. I appologize if this was a thread already but i did not see one regarding it.
Thanks!
tomtom 6.030 is working for me. Haven't tried 6.032. The software is awesome. Only complaint is loading up GPS is slow, but that shouldn't be tomtom's fault.
Take a look at: http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176
Anybody with Kaiser from T-Mobile Netherlands, does it come with TomTom?
I can't find it on the supplied CD(it came with one cd).
Am I missing something or I should start bothering T-Mobile for what's mine?
I have a post on XDA with tomtom working on the tilt. I included a link to the cab.
I'm currently using Igo which is a nice piece of software. I've only just started using it, having moved over from tomtom. It looks better, but I've not done any rigorous testing to see how complete it is. Time will tell.
T-Mobile doesn't include TomTom with the Kaiser on their cd.
Only the unbranded Kaiser has this software.
I really like Windows Live Search (wls.live.com). So much so that I removed Google Maps and TomTom from my device.
i use iGuidance 4 which works very good in my area (chicago) I also like the voice prompts...i don't think tomtom has the text to voice prompts in it...i think you have to add it in...
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i use iGuidance 4 which works very good in my area (chicago) I also like the voice prompts...i don't think tomtom has the text to voice prompts in it...i think you have to add it in...
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I was thinking of giving this a try. Tom Tom is OK, but I liked my Garmin XT better but it ONLY works with the supplied external GPS receiver. They have a version coming out that allows you to use an on board GPS, but they have chosen to lock down the next version to a supplied memory card. And on top of it, they are essentially forcing anyone who bought the Mobile XT product to pay full price again for this draconian action. Not very customer friendly. Since when has limiting choice been a positive selling point, especially with the Windows Mobile Community which is used to an open platform. They don't get it. I'll live with second best if it comes down to it.
barmalini said:
Anybody with Kaiser from T-Mobile Netherlands, does it come with TomTom?
I can't find it on the supplied CD(it came with one cd).
Am I missing something or I should start bothering T-Mobile for what's mine?
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Bij de mda vario 3 zit standaard geen tomtom geleverd. Ik heb tomtom v6.1 geinstalleerd en liep gelijk. blijf wel van de interne settings van de gps af! Zodra je tomtom geinstalleerd hebt, kies dan voor nmea en de rest gaat van zelf. Miomap v3.3 en navigon 6 werken na instalatie ook gelijk.
When i try to install TomTom with the listed cab file from the other post. I get the error " Unable to install application please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again" Its a brand new tilt i got in the mail yesterday running ATT software. Any way i can get a work around for this? I am pretty new to the HTC family so im gona be honest i dont know how to manipulate the phone very well, but i really want to get TomTom on my phone.
Thanks in advance
Uppity
unclesomebody said:
I'm currently using Igo which is a nice piece of software. I've only just started using it, having moved over from tomtom. It looks better, but I've not done any rigorous testing to see how complete it is. Time will tell.
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i'm also using iGO 2006 + in the US... much better graphics, features and POIs compared to TomTom... on par with TomTom from a navigational perspective.
uppity said:
When i try to install TomTom with the listed cab file from the other post. I get the error " Unable to install application please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again" Its a brand new tilt i got in the mail yesterday running ATT software. Any way i can get a work around for this? I am pretty new to the HTC family so im gona be honest i dont know how to manipulate the phone very well, but i really want to get TomTom on my phone.
Thanks in advance
Uppity
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Hello Uppity,
Sorry to hear you are having so many issues. I hard reset my device after the initial "start-up" that took place at the AT&T store. I understand that the Tilt does not have the external ROM that the previous HTC devices had so if you hard reset the device some of the restrictions/changes AT&T built into or removed from the device are either not loaded or now become available. An example of this is the "Internet Sharing application was not available on my Tilt with the initiial AT&T ROM loaded from the store but after my hard reset it was available and more importantly enabled me to tether my laptop to the Tilt and use it as a modem.
I suspect AT&T may have also blocked the loading of other GPS software in an effort to use their $10 a month telenav.
I have tomtom 6 loaded on my device and it works without any issues. You may want to try to hard reset your device and then try to load tomtom6
Can't say for sure if this will work, but I have not had any issues with loading/running tomtom 6.
I use iGuidance 3 (haven't spent the money to upgrade to 4 yet) and I'm very happy with it.
cortezzi said:
i'm also using iGO 2006 + in the US... much better graphics, features and POIs compared to TomTom... on par with TomTom from a navigational perspective.
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Cortezzi, where did you find maps for the US for Igo? I went to their website and all I can see is European maps.
uppity said:
When i try to install TomTom with the listed cab file from the other post. I get the error " Unable to install application please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again" Its a brand new tilt i got in the mail yesterday running ATT software. Any way i can get a work around for this? I am pretty new to the HTC family so im gona be honest i dont know how to manipulate the phone very well, but i really want to get TomTom on my phone.
Thanks in advance
Uppity
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I got my tilt on launch day (2.5 weeks ago?) and that cab has been proven to work on many tilts. make sure you have the right cab that i posted and if not maybe try installing the tilt ROM that people have posted. when doing a rom, make sure you read because you can brick your phone
PM and i will tell you
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Cortezzi, where did you find maps for the US for Igo? I went to their website and all I can see is European maps.
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PM me and i will direct you
stress1ner said:
PM me and i will direct you
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I would like to obtain them LEGALLY. If you know how to direct me to them so that I can purchase them, or otherwise download them compliant with Igo's Terms of Use, you can tell me here.
Thanks.
Can someone with a stock Tilt give me the actual URL to get TeleNav to my phone, please. I've flashed Sleuth and that shortcut is not part of the ROM.
Paying for the service, might as well get it.
THANKS
Here's the cab file for it...
No FREE
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Can someone with a stock Tilt give me the actual URL to get TeleNav to my phone, please. I've flashed Sleuth and that shortcut is not part of the ROM.
Paying for the service, might as well get it.
THANKS
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After reading your post...I made the call....5:45pm ET
It's not free
$9.99 a month for unlimited routes
dwny said:
After reading your post...I made the call....5:45pm ET
It's not free
$9.99 a month for unlimited routes
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Thanks Kyphur for the cab. I'll load it up next.
Understand it's not free (see my post). Had the little external unit for my 8525, and the 9.99 on my bill.
Will now have it internal and continue paying the 9.99.
Thanks again, guys.
You could also drop TeleNav & load up TomTom. North American/Canada map is about $110 which gives you a 1yr payback time. I'd certainly try the taster edition (comes with free local map of your choice) to get a good comparison between the two. In fact, it would sure be nice if somebody reviewed the two and posted their thoughts
I am not sure about TelNav but TomTom is the BOMB! I truly love it and I did buy the NA/Canada map after using the free one.
Telenav vs. TomTom - dumb question
I have Telenav on my AT&T Tilt - paying the $9.99/month. Does the Tilt support TomTom?
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You could also drop TeleNav & load up TomTom. North American/Canada map is about $110 which gives you a 1yr payback time. I'd certainly try the taster edition (comes with free local map of your choice) to get a good comparison between the two. In fact, it would sure be nice if somebody reviewed the two and posted their thoughts
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I have used them both... telenav works great, and its really cool that you can set up your destinations online and the new version does traffic, and it runs very well on the Kaiser.... HOWEVER what i dont like about telenav is that is has to download while you are on the move... I would hate to travel out of a service area and not be able to navigate... This is the reason i will always be loyal to other ones such as tomtom or iguidance, etc... and tomtom works great on the kaiser, i have no complaints with it whatsoever..
TomTom on Tilt
After reading your response above, I went to the TomTom site and from what I could find, they do not support the HTC 8925 - something to do with their relationship with HTC which limits their use on only certain HTC devices.
My specific question for those Tilt owners who are using TomTom is - does it use the built in GPS receiver or is TomTom calculating position by triangulating with cell towers (or something like that)?
Bill
It is using the GPS. Suggest your read this thread.
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It is using the GPS. Suggest your read this thread.
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Thanks. Yes - I had seen that thread but I wasn't sure after reading it that TomTom actually worked on the Tilt without any hacks.
I'm not too satisfied with Telenav and wouldn't mind installing TomTom to test it. Is there a way to do so with out first signing up - like a trial period? I wouldn't mind issuing a thread about the difference between the two (I also have an in-dash unit so I can compare the functionality of PDA GPS to in-dash units as well).
Bill
okay, to inquire further, I called Tom Tom and found that:
1. They do not "specifically" support the AT&T tilt (HTC8925). They do show support for the HTC TyTN II surprisingly. I guess I have to assume that if they support the other HTC, their software will function on the AT&T tilt.
2. unfortunately, they do not have a trial period so there is no way of testing their software directly. I guess the only way to do so is to install the Tom Tom File mentioned earlier.
from the previous post I guess it is possible to have both the Telenav software and the TomTom software on the phone without any problem. I guess I will have to check that.
You can load the teaser version (this is their trial version btw) to test w/o issues (there's a link to it on page 1 of my ROM thread: click "kaiser ROM" on my sig to go there). Their trial software doesn't expire; rather it limits the geographical area that the software will function by virtue of the installed maps. In this vein, it will allow you to download a map of your local area and you can play with it. All features such as traffic updates are fully functional. If you like the software, then merely purchase the full America/Canada map.
To obtain fast fixes, be sure to run QuickGPS on a regular basis (fix data is valid for 7 days). When you're within the valid data timeframe, TomTom will acquire a fix in about 30-45 seconds. This is one of the properties of aGPS by the way: obtaining initial position OTA.
ok... let me answer some of this to give you a clearer picture, if not there will be some n00b bashing that will go on and i would like to prevent that...
TomTom will work fine with no hacks on the tilt.
The tilt, tytn II, kaiser, etc are all the same device.
They dont claim support on the tilt because of AT&T exclusive relationship with telenav.
Now this i could be wrong on but you should be able to install the TOMTOM taster file which is located in this forum and on our FTP server and when it goes to load a map will give you the button for voucher, this should let you download 1 free city map.
HOWEVER what i dont like about telenav is that is has to download while you are on the move... I would hate to travel out of a service area and not be able to navigate...
I have traveled out of coverage and it still worked. it just didn't give turn by turn voice but it still tracked via the gps on the maps and showed were i was going. i guess you would have to loos cell service for a long time for it to take effect. I to also like you can go on the web real quick and enter in an address and just go. thats nice when you have multiple places to go that day and you just type them all in make things easy when you are in sales driving everywhere. I hope soon they will have the teletraffic for the kaiser to get the traffic updates.
i don't have Tom Tom but i'm happy with Telenav. you can get a 1yr subscription for $99. another Telenav advantage is that maps are updated regularly. with Tom Tom you have to wait for next software version.
I have both Telenav and TomTom. I absolutely love the traffic feature on telenav. Very accurate to the minute and detailed. Traffic updates on TomTom always seem outdated
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I hope soon they will have the teletraffic for the kaiser to get the traffic updates.
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Uhm, they do have traffic updates.
GermanGuy said:
I have both Telenav and TomTom. I absolutely love the traffic feature on telenav. Very accurate to the minute and detailed. Traffic updates on TomTom always seem outdated
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you must live within the city or at least very near to it. Traffic updates really don't mean much to people outside of big cities since nobody is keeping track of the traffic situations on urban roads. I once subscribed to XM traffic and found that it was only useful in and around Philadelphia (I live 35 miles southwest of Philadelphia). I am finding the same thing true with Telenav.
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ok... let me answer some of this to give you a clearer picture, if not there will be some n00b bashing that will go on and i would like to prevent that...
I want to thank you and sleuth255 for your help this past weekend in getting me started with TomTom. I have it loaded and functional and so far I seem to enjoy it more so than TeleNav.
Bill
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Ok, I have never used the GPS feature on my Kaiser(Once a Tilt) till now. I have never needed to cause I didnt have a data plan. I used the routers at school and my house for internet. I got TT7 and I got a data plan cause TomTom is amazing. My GPS doesnt like to work. TomTom says their is no Device Detected. QuickGPS fails. The HTC GPS tool fails.....how can i troubleshoot my gps? Just a point in the right direction would help. (FWI, HD_III_OPAL WWE, 1.65.24.36)
DemoShadow said:
....my Kaiser(Once a Tilt)
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What does that mean? Have you added a camera and changed the case as well as the ROM?
QuickGPS fails. The HTC GPS tool fails.....how can i troubleshoot my gps?
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Fails in what way? The TyTN II I have, works ok with the version of Tomtom Navigator it came with but as TTN 7 isn't officially released (yet?) as an upgrade, all I can suggest is to go back to basics, perhaps trying the setup on my TyTN II in my sig. Otherwise maybe someone who's used TTN 7 on the TyTN II can advise you. Do a search in the Kaiser software forum, there were lots of GPS related posts in there.
I got it to work, my GPS settings were incorrect. Yea and TT7 works...I just downloaded the one free map that was close by, if I need to go anywhere else I will copy the maps from my "Official SD Map Card"
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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I got it to work, my GPS settings were incorrect. Yea and TT7 works...I just downloaded the one free map that was close by, if I need to go anywhere else I will copy the maps from my "Official SD Map Card"
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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if your set has an inbuilt GPS reciever then it should be free irrespective of what plan you have ...except for whatever you need to shell out to buy the gps software and maps...
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I*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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It depends which Kaiser and where it was bought. The HTC Original TyTN II sold here in the UK came with TTN 6.032 on CDROM in the box but just like with the version you have it only allowed free download of one 'city' map. Any additional maps had to be bought and the number that went with the map could only be used on that device.
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*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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The Kaiser's GPS receiver is integrated in the phone and doesn't need anything network-related to function (so yes, it's free in itself). It will give any program that wants it the current position, speed, heading etc of the phone.
I.e. there was no point in you "not using the GPS because you didn't have a data plan".
Then what might require a data plan or paying something is the program in question. There are 2 types of programs, those like Google maps or MS Live that are free to download and use, but DO need a data connection as they will download the map data from the net on request while navigating.
The other type like TomTom, MioMap etc do NOT need data as they store the entire maps locally on the memory card, however they are payware so you have to buy them in the first place.
Evenings,
I have just moved over from the HTC Kaiser (Vario 3) to the G1 and I love everything abotu the G1 the only thing it is missing is decent turn by turn navigation.
I had tomtom on my Kaiser and am looking for something similar for the G1,
I found this link demoing CoPilot 7 but it doesnt look to be avalable to the public as I cannot find anywhere to buy it from. and on the CoPilot website it doesnt list the G1 as a compatible phone.
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2009/01/09/alks-copilot-live-t-mobile-g1
I found and downloaded AndNav 2 and found that it wasnt very good the display is to small and i cant get used to the interface.
lastly I found TeleNav but ind $10 a month a little bit of a rip off, i would rather something you pay a 1 off fee like you would with a tomtom and then update the maps at a cost.
Does anyone know where I can get the CoPilot from and if its even out yet.
Hello,
i move from a htc 3300 (artemis) with tom tom, i gave it away in exchange for the Dream, but im a little regret about this, because im always lost the google maps show me in the map but dont tell where to turn. Wisepilot is expensive and the andnav2 is very very limited. I have a nav4all but dont show the map and is anoying and confusing.
So i need this for navigate in work and i dont have one Turn to Turn GPS like the old Tom Tom in htc Artemis.
Anyone have a solution?
Filipe.Nogueira said:
Hello,
i move from a htc 3300 (artemis) with tom tom, i gave it away in exchange for the Dream, but im a little regret about this, because im always lost the google maps show me in the map but dont tell where to turn. Wisepilot is expensive and the andnav2 is very very limited. I have a nav4all but dont show the map and is anoying and confusing.
So i need this for navigate in work and i dont have one Turn to Turn GPS like the old Tom Tom in htc Artemis.
Anyone have a solution?
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Telenav.
I'm using it until Something else is released that's as good as telenav, but doesn't have a subscription fee.
Henchman said:
Telenav.
I'm using it until Something else is released that's as good as telenav, but doesn't have a subscription fee.
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I think i have found the app for me, Its a free download from the market place and its called wisepilot. its a very profesional GUI and looks like it works very well and the instructions seem clear( havent road tested it yet)
The only issue i see is that it says that its a free trial and it shoudl expire after 5 days and then to renew its 99Euro per year which seems expencive considering i can buy a tomtom for around that much and i dont have to subscribe to anything.
The only issue i have with wisepilot is that it downloads the map squares from a server rather than having them on a SD card.
Agghh FFS What is the point of a navigation system that doesnt work outside of GPRS coverage
What if I am not within the network coverage?
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If there is no network coverage, you can use neither your moile phone, nor the Wisepilot service
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just a warning about telenav, if you try to cancel they wont do it. you need to call in like 3 or 4 times to confirm they canceled, and they will strait lie to you about calling in and cancelling.