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WinMo & Xperia Drawbacks - Agree or Disagree?

Hey guys,
I got my Xperia in early October last year, and it was my first encounter with Windows Mobile. Like many of you I've had mixed feelings towards this device. I do think it can be a great phone - if you put some effort into it and with the help of the xda-developers.
But I took some time and wrote down everything that has annoyed me over the past year with WinMo and the Xperia. I thought it would be interesting to see if there are other Xperia owners out there that share my opinion
All That is Bad About Windows Mobile
So, is this article a load of cr*p or are my objections valid? Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks!
/Lars

Ì think you summed up about everything I know I hate - and love - about WM. Amen brother!

i agreed with you, but i prefer winmo 6.5 over the iphone, the blackberry and the e71.

Totally agree, and I started in somewhat the same situation.
The X1 is my first experience with Windows Mobile phones, even smartphones for that matter, and I found it horrible in the beginning. The only thing that has made it even harder for me than you is I use Apple pc's so I can't update my stock-rom without lending someones Windows pc and sure as hell can't try stuff like switching rom's!

i agree about the xperia bits and windows mobile 6.1 - but windows mobile is changing - the 6.5.2 builds with the buttons at the bottom are a huge improvement on the 6.1 we have at the moment and the Marketplace will also change Windows Mobile for the better

Agreed on most of it (99%) and laughed a lot, but FRACKING LOL'D at this:
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......but don't forget that there is a reason for the absence of those features... Why?...
...because.....
IT'S A GAMING MACHINE!

I agree too .. problem is there is no perfect device.
iPhone quite limits the software. No opera mini. No AVI playback.
WebOS and Android are still a bit young. We must wait. And in the time of X1, WebOS was not known and Android was just an infant.
WM plainly sucks, but most things can be fixed and it is actually possible to live with it.

Read the list but can't share all of it. I'm not very sensitive to GUI aspects because the critical items are one-timers mostly and you don't touch them every day. My point is that all the other fancy stuff on the market like iPhone and Android are basícally nice as well but they still are islands in a productivity kind of view. I need my windows/exchange connections and frankly, WiMo does the job. I need my particular range of software and I can get them for WiMo, I can't get that stuff for iPhone. An iPhone for me would just be "a phone" with web access but that's not what I carry that device for. I got my Spb 3 and got rid of the panelmanager (never found out what the heck I shall do with it anyway), got my street/air navigation stuff and my ERP system to run on it and I'm happy. I'm not after Facebook, I don't need strange themes every day, I don't even need weather because that's what I see when I don't stare at the screen but lift my neck (move muscles) and watch out of the window, the ones made of glas. Sometimes I think that I'm "just a happy customer" because that thing does exactly what I was expecting when I put my money on the table. Most of the things on your list I never even came across when using mine on a day-to-day basis. But I use my SE to do the job, it's not my job to do something an the SE.
Cheers - Susan

Well put!
+1 for "totally agree"...
all the frustrations ~and yet all the love too ...
Was my first WinMo too -and yes it took several weeks of trial and error(s)
Had it not been for XDA I'd have given up, but thanks to all the great people and stuff here (and my interest /patience /application) I now love my Xperia
Couldn't live without it

Thanks for all the excellent feedback! I was afraid the article was too long for anyone to be bothered reading it
Looks like you both agree and disagree with me, and that most of you have a love-hate relationship with WinMo as well.
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!

Great article. I agree with all of the minor irritants about default WinMo interface. Since I never really use MS built-in features and rely almost exclusively on 3rd Party (prettier) apps I don't really care about ugly touch-unfriendly interface.
However, for the uninitiated I can see that this could seem like a very large barrier to entry. I would have thought MS would have done to the old WinMo interface what they did with DOS and Win95/98. Hid it underneath a much prettier shell and NEVER see those old 3.1 style menus (unless a REALLY want to).
When people see my phone sometimes they ask about it and usually I can't recommend they buy it, unless they are pretty tech-savvy. Which I think is a little sad because I love my phone so much, and I wish everyone could get a device as capable as mine, but instead they settle for cruder devices.
Oh well, I am happy with mine, and maybe 6.5 and 7 will bring a little more for me to play with and recommend to others.

MapleDouglas said:
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!
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So say we all !

bootdroid - Let's end it here shall we

When I was looking for x86 stuff today, I came across this "project" called bootdroid that is supposedly a guy coming along in his port of iOS to Android (blog of updates is here: http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/ code page here: http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/).
It amazes me how people think that, with all the issues we have with hardware acceleration, audio, and camera drivers with every OS update that SWITCHING to a completely different system wouldn't be out of the question.
Yes, for people still questioning, it IS fake. You're NEVER going to be able to run iOS natively on an Android device period. Likewise, you can barely get Android to recognize the iOS hardware.
A few things to note:
1) He's spamming it all over the place for SEO reasons,
2) The iPhone's/iPads interface images are static. They don't just "fit" into any given screen size, a reason why we can't have DPI changers like Android has. You'd have to totally recode the system to do what he's trying to make you THINK he's doing. He says he's using the iPad version... Have you ever tried using iPad apps on the iPhone? Well, it shows you only 4/100th of the screen. Yes, I have tried, and so have a few others.
3) He used old web app sample code that comes with Xcode. It's not even iOS5:
iOS4:
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iOS 5:
His:
Specifically, you can tell by the edges. His Push Notifications are also thick:
So move along now, nothing to see here.

Ga niet zomaar haten...
Seriously he is already been working on this project since ios 4 was still the latest and greatest. I don't know if you are an iPhone user or on the Android side but this is real. He has been providing very true ans interesting topics on his blogspot and I would like to see your face when an alpha build comes out.
People stop hating on this project please. Maybe this is fake but then again why would he been keeping the site alive for that long ? Do you think that someone that is wanting to say brick our devices is going to say don't promote this to much because the maker of thz port could be sued by Apple for the copyright things.
This is probably the last thing that Apple is waiting on, people using their (good and smooth with great exclusive apps) software on hardware that is better and faster and that fill better the needs of certain people. ( I don't like the iPhone's sound quality, display size, aspect ratio, glass that breaks rapidly...).

I have been an iPhone user since they came out. I also have Android devices. There are pros and cons with both.
I've managed to snag the GUI images that are available with the iOS 5 firmware and optimized it for the Android device I'm working with. I successfully built a Test App (GUI) in Xcode and added it as a system application to the iOS firmware currently running on my Android device.
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Again... That is NOT iOS5. I know how it looks like, and I know how Xcode looks and works.
Another thing, since iOS is basically OS X, what does this mean for driver support? There isn't a driver for any internal Android hardware that also works in OS X.
Lastly, just because it's better hardware doesn't mean the software will work better/faster on it. Being that Androids are mostly made out of plastic will most likely result in heating issues. The new iPad can hardly handle it.

Hunch
Well I noticed on the Bootdroid blog, that someone has released code for Bootdroid.
HTML:
https://github.com/Peter42/BootDroid
However, what we do not know is what the files actually do. I have tested it myself and... well... they do nothing that I can actually tell apart from run an app, which itself, does nothing? :S
However both the software and the app seems to be virus free, according to ESET and Lookout.
Is there any developers wishing to strip down these files, and have a little look inside to see what they do?
Thanks,
TyphoonScotland

The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.

LordManhattan said:
The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.
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i will download it tonite to see whuz that

therealphami said:
i will download it tonite to see whuz that
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Did you try it out?
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If I could figure out how to install it, I wouldn't mind trying!
iOS5 on Archos 70 would be awesome! =)

I thnk its real
It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...

Soooo.
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It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...
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Did you find out? Theres no files on his google source anymore... I just revived a dead thread sorry

BlackBerry 10 OS and Dev Alpha Device Announced

SOURCE : Kickedface
RIM CEO Thorsten Heins took to the stage to announce that RIM will be seeding Dev Alpha devices to developers for app testing. The device in question is not a commercial handset--in fact, it doesn't even work as a phone. Source : Asia Cnet
Heins, who was appointed CEO three months ago, pointed out that RIM is "making incredible progress on BB 10". He gave a quick onstage demo of what's in store for BB 10:
Notifications
The new notifications feature uses a swiping motion RIM calls "glancing". In any app, you can access your notifications simply by swiping sideways and keeping your finger on the screen. This brings up the notifications sidebar, and you can decide whether to continue or exit. During the onstage demo, RIM CEO Thorsten Heins noted that the swiping gesture flows across up to three applications back.
For the "glancing" feature to work, apps continue running realtime in the background and are not killed. We're a little worried about how this feature will affect battery life, though.
Keyboard
According to RIM's head of software portfolio, Vivek Bhardwaj, the new onscreen keyboard uses a "modelling algorithm" that's tailored to the user. Aesthetically, it's designed to look like the BB keyboard, complete with its renowned frets.
Bhardwaj's team must have gleaned some inspiration from Swype, because the new keyboard uses various intuitive gestures--for instance, swiping up and down for numbers and symbols, and backwards to delete words. While you're typing, word suggestions appear above the letters and you can swipe them upwards to add them to the message body. This is probably a lot faster than typing on a typical touchscreen device, but whether diehard BlackBerry users will consider it a worthy replacement for the company's famous physical keyboard remains to be seen.
Camera
RIM's current crop of BB 7 devices use continuous autofocus and hence lack a tap to focus function. BB 10 OS brings with it the ability to tap anywhere on the screen to focus and then shoot a picture.
That's not the most exciting and innovative feature of the camera app, though--it's the ability to go back "in time" to catch the perfect moment that caused the crowd to gasp audibly. For example, if you've captured the perfect photo but find that it's ruined by someone who is blinking, you can scroll a few frames forward or backward to the suitable moment. This saves the trouble of having your subject pose for another picture.
RIM also shared the stage with some developers, who showed off native BB 10 apps that have already been created. For example, Gameloft will have 11 games available on the platform when it's made available, and Pixelmags promised 10 free minutes of reading each month for its stable of e-magazines.
RIM is placing all its bets on the next-generation operating system (OS) to pull it out of its woes. It needs to restore investor and consumer confidence, as well as flagging smartphone sales. Based on what we've seen of BB 10 so far--as well as developers' works--there may be hope for the beleaguered company after all.
Stay tuned for more coverage from BlackBerry World coming soon.

Soooo....anyone having a bash at replicating the BB10 call screen as in the video? See 0:16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEPYYo0-gfc

please anyone say?
In india,bb jam is on july 4th isn't it......so if we go to jam,can we get one alpha device?
NOTE:I HAVE 2 APPS ON BB APPWORLD.i am in kerala,maybe i will be coming to delhi
for bb 10 jam.....please reply

RIM is betting everything on BB 10, since the last couple of years they have been really quiet and releasing devices that are nothing to get exited, the hardware has been top quality but boring OS, by giving developers test devices they are trying to get developers on their side and work on their platform, it is strange how things work out guess that what makes an OS successful is the community that is behind it, I really loved web OS but never took off for a lot of reasons, so let's wait and see only time will tell if BB10 is a winner or not.....noob comment

That mock-up looks A LOT like an iPhone; just saying, first thing that came to mind. Anyway, seems like it has potential for people who want something that's clean and functional. I'm curious at least. Looks pretty decent. Not anything I'd pick up because it will just never have the customization abilities of Android, but might be something I'd recommend to friends, something I still can't really say for WP or Apple to some extent.

let's make this tread active,I have one dev alpha
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MissionImprobable said:
That mock-up looks A LOT like an iPhone; just saying, first thing that came to mind. Anyway, seems like it has potential for people who want something that's clean and functional. I'm curious at least. Looks pretty decent. Not anything I'd pick up because it will just never have the customization abilities of Android, but might be something I'd recommend to friends, something I still can't really say for WP or Apple to some extent.
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Lawsuit in 3...2..

Anybody here with Dev alpha other than me
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Serious question. Anybody care about BB10?
Anybody?
Anyone at all?

063_XOBX said:
Serious question. Anybody care about BB10?
Anybody?
Anyone at all?
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I do. :b

063_XOBX said:
Serious question. Anybody care about BB10?
Anybody?
Anyone at all?
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Echo.... echo..... echo..........
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cant decide which win7 tab to get...

before you say it, yes i know win7 isnt a good tablet os. i know. i dont care i still want one. lol.
anyway here is what im looking at:
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my arguments for gigabyte:
much faster cpu (atom equivalent of an i3)
standard 2.5" hdd allows more and cheaper upgrade options (hybrid hdd anyone?)
dual usb with one superspeed
mouse pad, mouse buttons and scroll buttons make it much easier to navagate freely, also certain combos will send certain commands like C+A+D
looks really sexy, pretty much like the hp slate
thoughts: if it had atleast 720p resolution and atleast dx10 supported gpu id be all over this thing
summary: has ehh hardware compared to msi but ease of use seems exponentially better​my arguments for msi:
slightly cheaper
ips display at 720p+ (you sexy beast)
lower tdp cpu
radeon 6 series gpu with dx11 absolutely OBLITERATES any atom gma (the ability to do some light gaming like bejeweled and heavy weapon would be nice, at more than 15 fps would be even better)
double the ram at a higher data rate
msata insures low power consumption
dual cameras
gps (cuz why not)
slightly bigger battery
dedicated C+A+D button can be pretty useful
tpm security module
thoughts: if i could find a better cpu to upgrade to i could live with everything else and would buy this thing in a heartbeat but lack of mouse controls, super slow cpu and lack of i/o ports are a real turn off
summary: has some fairly impressive hardware for a tablet, but the ease of use seems lacking compared to the gigabyte​

I can see where this will end up, so ib4l

ha ha ha! way to be productive bro.

Some people here judge everyone by their own standards

yeah... just go ahead and delete the thread im sure everyone is gonna bypass it anyway

m1l4droid said:
I'd say wait for surface. It's worth the wait. Even I'm ditching Android as a tablet OS for that device.
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^^^ that.
Unless there's a specific reason for wanting W7 on it (maybe you just want it now, rather than waiting), go for W8 - looks much better.

daktah said:
yeah... just go ahead and delete the thread im sure everyone is gonna bypass it anyway
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I'll close it if you really want me to, but not everyone in here's a troll. Some will actually read your post and answer constructively.

Archer said:
^^^ that.
Unless there's a specific reason for wanting W7 on it (maybe you just want it now, rather than waiting), go for W8 - looks much better.
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i know i probably should but im not looking to spend a ton of money on this thing as i already have a $2300-something sager gaming rig (the one good thing about deploying: the redonk amount of cash you make). i just wanted this as a small cheap portable solution.and plus i can jusp upgrade when w8 is released if i wanted.
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I'll close it if you really want me to, but not everyone in here's a troll. Some will actually read your post and answer constructively.
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oh yes i know ive been here since i found the place back when the og evo came out so i know that people can be really helpful... when it comes to phones. other things tend to be not so much. atleast in my experience.

I had no intention of being a troll - it was early in the morning here, I briefly skimmed the OP and had visions of it going exactly the same way the recent Mac thread has gone, turning into a haters vs fanboys outing.
To be honest, I would also recommend waiting for one of the 'Surface' tablets running Windows 8. 7 just isn't designed for tablets and is still really difficult to utilise without a keyboard - I speak from experience as I am an EPoS engineer by trade and spend half my life using both XP & Win 7 based touch-screen PC systems in my job.
I have played with 8 and it just looks much better designed and far more ideal for the Tablet market.

The arm version of the surface would have a processor that is similar to those of android tablets and the ipad right now. You wont be able to run any current windows programs on it. However the pro version of the surface should run older windows programs, in addition to the metro apps. The pro version will most likely be a bit pricey though.

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The arm version of the surface would have a processor that is similar to those of android tablets and the ipad right now. You wont be able to run any current windows programs on it. However the pro version of the surface should run older windows programs, in addition to the metro apps. The pro version will most likely be a bit pricey though.
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Yes I just looked it up and saw that and that is my problem with new Surface machines. RT is supposed to start out at $600 but basically is a glorified WinMob/WinPhone, and since its ARM it will most likely use SOCs which means no CPU or RAM expansion options. On the other hand 8/Pro will be fully compatible with everything and use standard mobile components, but starting at $1000+ is way out of my price range. Again, I have an expensive ass laptop for the power computing area of my life, I just wanted this as a thing that is more mobile and just to mess around with it. And as far as the keyboard thing, SimonTS, a $15 generic mini USB keyboard case from Amazon can easily solve that problem.
I guess when I end up being able to buy something Ill go for the Gigabyte because of the body, ports, and the couple of accessories offered by Gigabyte compared to the... nothing that MSI offers (that Im aware of at least). I bet I can replace the screen on it too hopefully.

f u..Gameloft, and your Customer Support: A+ [6-month long email exchange]

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Now the support was helpful at the start and I did receive free games for my troubles but when they refunded my games that I bought, now that's when I started to flip the table, and my ****. A refund was never asked nor was it implied.
So, does anyone else have bad experiences with Gameloft games and their support?

i have had the same prob i emailed them asking were the eff is the android update for mc3 ios got it what about android? what a bunch of lazy french c****

paintball23456 said:
i have had the same prob i emailed them asking were the eff is the android update for mc3 ios got it what about android? what a bunch of lazy french c****
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This too, another reason why iOS users are so high up on the online leader-boards.

garychencool said:
This too, another reason why iOS users are so high up on the online leader-boards.
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no its not cross platform
ios has a new version with 2 new maps and 2 new perks i cannot play against my friend with a fruit phone they have separated the servers
eff you gameloft you guys dev for both platforms you cant just favor one if you make games for the other

paintball23456 said:
no its not cross platform
ios has a new version with 2 new maps and 2 new perks i cannot play against my friend with a fruit phone they have separated the servers
eff you gameloft you guys dev for both platforms you cant just favor one if you make games for the other
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You sure? I'm pretty sure it's cross-platform.

Gameloft games on Android are missing lots of features and the initial ports are buggy and lacks lots of features like Native gamepad support, less special effects than iOS versions, bad customer support, etc... . Gloft games on iPhone 4 are better than my galaxy S which has a better GPU and lower res screen Wake up Gameloft!

Cheers Gameloft! You guys have an amazing consumer support lol!

6 months? yikes

Mib game has a 99$ in game purchase I let my nephew use my gtab and he ended up buying it . I caught it n cancelled but 99$ for a crappy add on in a crappy game is crazy
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I don't get what's going on? I've noticed that on different phones, my Gameloft data would either save on the phone itself or the phone's SD card. It changed depending on the phone. Right now, the data saves on my SD card. So that's why when I flash my phone, my Gameloft data is still there. My G2 saved the data on the phone, so I had to re-download every time.
That's probably what they were talking about when referring to Android/data/Gameloft
Also, I had some games save in /Gameloft/Name-of-Game and sometimes Gameloft/gameloft-data.
It was different for every Gameloft game I had.
Is that the problem I'm reading? Did I comprehend it correctly? Or am I just way off. =.P

At least they have tried unlike EA. No reply since Feb 29

Bro, your story, it was cool.
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Cool story dude,cool story.

thatdefault said:
At least they have tried unlike EA. No reply since Feb 29
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They do try. Customer support hasn't been terrible for me through Gameloft, although some things were not 100% resolved, but very close. People are complaining about iOS being more favorable than android, but with android they have to come up with so many different versions to become compatible, and iOS they don't and it is just much easier for them to code it all.

mrhaddan said:
They do try. Customer support hasn't been terrible for me through Gameloft, although some things were not 100% resolved, but very close. People are complaining about iOS being more favorable than android, but with android they have to come up with so many different versions to become compatible, and iOS they don't and it is just much easier for them to code it all.
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The initial ports for Android are rushed and not optimized. Gangstar Rio is the prime example - iPad files for my Galaxy S? WTF?!

I'm pretty sure Gameloft makes games in C++ and uses the Android NDK to port it over to Android like this.