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WinMo & Xperia Drawbacks - Agree or Disagree?

Hey guys,
I got my Xperia in early October last year, and it was my first encounter with Windows Mobile. Like many of you I've had mixed feelings towards this device. I do think it can be a great phone - if you put some effort into it and with the help of the xda-developers.
But I took some time and wrote down everything that has annoyed me over the past year with WinMo and the Xperia. I thought it would be interesting to see if there are other Xperia owners out there that share my opinion
All That is Bad About Windows Mobile
So, is this article a load of cr*p or are my objections valid? Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks!
/Lars

Ì think you summed up about everything I know I hate - and love - about WM. Amen brother!

i agreed with you, but i prefer winmo 6.5 over the iphone, the blackberry and the e71.

Totally agree, and I started in somewhat the same situation.
The X1 is my first experience with Windows Mobile phones, even smartphones for that matter, and I found it horrible in the beginning. The only thing that has made it even harder for me than you is I use Apple pc's so I can't update my stock-rom without lending someones Windows pc and sure as hell can't try stuff like switching rom's!

i agree about the xperia bits and windows mobile 6.1 - but windows mobile is changing - the 6.5.2 builds with the buttons at the bottom are a huge improvement on the 6.1 we have at the moment and the Marketplace will also change Windows Mobile for the better

Agreed on most of it (99%) and laughed a lot, but FRACKING LOL'D at this:
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......but don't forget that there is a reason for the absence of those features... Why?...
...because.....
IT'S A GAMING MACHINE!

I agree too .. problem is there is no perfect device.
iPhone quite limits the software. No opera mini. No AVI playback.
WebOS and Android are still a bit young. We must wait. And in the time of X1, WebOS was not known and Android was just an infant.
WM plainly sucks, but most things can be fixed and it is actually possible to live with it.

Read the list but can't share all of it. I'm not very sensitive to GUI aspects because the critical items are one-timers mostly and you don't touch them every day. My point is that all the other fancy stuff on the market like iPhone and Android are basícally nice as well but they still are islands in a productivity kind of view. I need my windows/exchange connections and frankly, WiMo does the job. I need my particular range of software and I can get them for WiMo, I can't get that stuff for iPhone. An iPhone for me would just be "a phone" with web access but that's not what I carry that device for. I got my Spb 3 and got rid of the panelmanager (never found out what the heck I shall do with it anyway), got my street/air navigation stuff and my ERP system to run on it and I'm happy. I'm not after Facebook, I don't need strange themes every day, I don't even need weather because that's what I see when I don't stare at the screen but lift my neck (move muscles) and watch out of the window, the ones made of glas. Sometimes I think that I'm "just a happy customer" because that thing does exactly what I was expecting when I put my money on the table. Most of the things on your list I never even came across when using mine on a day-to-day basis. But I use my SE to do the job, it's not my job to do something an the SE.
Cheers - Susan

Well put!
+1 for "totally agree"...
all the frustrations ~and yet all the love too ...
Was my first WinMo too -and yes it took several weeks of trial and error(s)
Had it not been for XDA I'd have given up, but thanks to all the great people and stuff here (and my interest /patience /application) I now love my Xperia
Couldn't live without it

Thanks for all the excellent feedback! I was afraid the article was too long for anyone to be bothered reading it
Looks like you both agree and disagree with me, and that most of you have a love-hate relationship with WinMo as well.
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!

Great article. I agree with all of the minor irritants about default WinMo interface. Since I never really use MS built-in features and rely almost exclusively on 3rd Party (prettier) apps I don't really care about ugly touch-unfriendly interface.
However, for the uninitiated I can see that this could seem like a very large barrier to entry. I would have thought MS would have done to the old WinMo interface what they did with DOS and Win95/98. Hid it underneath a much prettier shell and NEVER see those old 3.1 style menus (unless a REALLY want to).
When people see my phone sometimes they ask about it and usually I can't recommend they buy it, unless they are pretty tech-savvy. Which I think is a little sad because I love my phone so much, and I wish everyone could get a device as capable as mine, but instead they settle for cruder devices.
Oh well, I am happy with mine, and maybe 6.5 and 7 will bring a little more for me to play with and recommend to others.

MapleDouglas said:
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!
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So say we all !

New Linux based smartphone.

New Linux based smartphone.
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Read the article.
What do you think about it? Is this is a really revolution?

I think this phone looks very nice with a stunning UI. The technical specs are nothing special, but this could be quite a hit i think.

thats a savage ass phone, you kno what would be sick tho if you could change the color of all the LED's on it two from blue to like purple or something. It's linux it should be fully customizable like that

I love the look of this phone. Very appealing. I will be interested in seeing more about it.

This would be the perfect MP3 Player. But for a smartphone, I do not know if it will offer the extreme flexibility of any of the four TRUE smart phones: Symbian S60, Windows Mobile, Android.
Does this phone have a file system, etc? Also, does Palm Pre and Palm Pixi have a file system and file manager too?
But I've seen this phone before, and I was excited, and still am.
I just don't expect it to be smart-centric. I expect it to be more like a Zune HD experience with some "quasi-smart" features like on the iPhone.
Original Poster, I think you should compile links on the first post and make this the official ELSE anticipation and discussion thread.
More Links http://else.bz/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amk7XzgMcTs&feature=related
But there are a few things I would like to know more about this phone.
*Judging by the Flash Videos, the keyboard on the phone sucks (but there are some pretty cool features). But the reason why it sucks is mainly due to the layout and size of the keys both in portrait and qwerty.
*I haven't seen any file manager. Will it be on this phone, and how complex is it?
*Speaker quality?

Two words: left handed
(looks awesome!)

N1c0_ds said:
Two words: left handed
(looks awesome!)
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XD one word: settings.

poetryrocksalot said:
XD one word: settings.
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He was talking about the buttons being on the right side of the phone. Easier for us left-handers to use. I don't think you can change hardware location in settings

Use it upside down maybe!! too bad for you!! Does look interesting, but not entirely better than tab bars and such.. it does have that added sliding left feature and I guess it being capacative would not require much tension from the thumb. I am always up for new technology to push the limits.

Nicaragüense said:
Use it upside down maybe!! too bad for you!! Does look interesting, but not entirely better than tab bars and such.. it does have that added sliding left feature and I guess it being capacative would not require much tension from the thumb. I am always up for new technology to push the limits.
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Wow, maybe the device will not only have rotate orientation buy also flip orientation. That would be awesome!

It's all going to come down to how they market this phone. It looks great and definitely has appeal to those of us with a technical background and who love customization. But what carrier will they market it to? Can it be customized to settings that people find interesting such as led colors, programs, etc? and the biggest one: WHO will they allow to carry the operating system. Getting google to back this would be great, getting Nokia to make a phone able to support this would be great, but which one will have the advertising budget to challenge Apple and the like to the duel that will occur when this and the next generation of iphones is released? A small company like Access is going to have a really hard time trying to compete with Motorola, Nokia, Google, Samsung and Apple especially.

I'm sorry for reviving a dead thread, but does anybody know the name of this phone and the maker? I think the phone failed to launch and the maker went out of business and that's making it hard for me to find any information on this. A name should help, thanks.

The Linux based smartphone have actually been out for awhile. I think (Don't hold me to word on this) there is one called tuxphone. But I'm not sure if that's Linux based when I think back on it...
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I wonder if it would be possible to port the launcher to Android since it is also Linux based? It looks pretty sexy...
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drewtang said:
I wonder if it would be possible to port the launcher to Android since it is also Linux based? It looks pretty sexy...
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The most thing about Android that is Linux based is it's kernel but a lot of it is actually Java, especially the apps.
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bootdroid - Let's end it here shall we

When I was looking for x86 stuff today, I came across this "project" called bootdroid that is supposedly a guy coming along in his port of iOS to Android (blog of updates is here: http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/ code page here: http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/).
It amazes me how people think that, with all the issues we have with hardware acceleration, audio, and camera drivers with every OS update that SWITCHING to a completely different system wouldn't be out of the question.
Yes, for people still questioning, it IS fake. You're NEVER going to be able to run iOS natively on an Android device period. Likewise, you can barely get Android to recognize the iOS hardware.
A few things to note:
1) He's spamming it all over the place for SEO reasons,
2) The iPhone's/iPads interface images are static. They don't just "fit" into any given screen size, a reason why we can't have DPI changers like Android has. You'd have to totally recode the system to do what he's trying to make you THINK he's doing. He says he's using the iPad version... Have you ever tried using iPad apps on the iPhone? Well, it shows you only 4/100th of the screen. Yes, I have tried, and so have a few others.
3) He used old web app sample code that comes with Xcode. It's not even iOS5:
iOS4:
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iOS 5:
His:
Specifically, you can tell by the edges. His Push Notifications are also thick:
So move along now, nothing to see here.

Ga niet zomaar haten...
Seriously he is already been working on this project since ios 4 was still the latest and greatest. I don't know if you are an iPhone user or on the Android side but this is real. He has been providing very true ans interesting topics on his blogspot and I would like to see your face when an alpha build comes out.
People stop hating on this project please. Maybe this is fake but then again why would he been keeping the site alive for that long ? Do you think that someone that is wanting to say brick our devices is going to say don't promote this to much because the maker of thz port could be sued by Apple for the copyright things.
This is probably the last thing that Apple is waiting on, people using their (good and smooth with great exclusive apps) software on hardware that is better and faster and that fill better the needs of certain people. ( I don't like the iPhone's sound quality, display size, aspect ratio, glass that breaks rapidly...).

I have been an iPhone user since they came out. I also have Android devices. There are pros and cons with both.
I've managed to snag the GUI images that are available with the iOS 5 firmware and optimized it for the Android device I'm working with. I successfully built a Test App (GUI) in Xcode and added it as a system application to the iOS firmware currently running on my Android device.
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Again... That is NOT iOS5. I know how it looks like, and I know how Xcode looks and works.
Another thing, since iOS is basically OS X, what does this mean for driver support? There isn't a driver for any internal Android hardware that also works in OS X.
Lastly, just because it's better hardware doesn't mean the software will work better/faster on it. Being that Androids are mostly made out of plastic will most likely result in heating issues. The new iPad can hardly handle it.

Hunch
Well I noticed on the Bootdroid blog, that someone has released code for Bootdroid.
HTML:
https://github.com/Peter42/BootDroid
However, what we do not know is what the files actually do. I have tested it myself and... well... they do nothing that I can actually tell apart from run an app, which itself, does nothing? :S
However both the software and the app seems to be virus free, according to ESET and Lookout.
Is there any developers wishing to strip down these files, and have a little look inside to see what they do?
Thanks,
TyphoonScotland

The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.

LordManhattan said:
The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.
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i will download it tonite to see whuz that

therealphami said:
i will download it tonite to see whuz that
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Did you try it out?
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If I could figure out how to install it, I wouldn't mind trying!
iOS5 on Archos 70 would be awesome! =)

I thnk its real
It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...

Soooo.
xjarylx said:
It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...
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Did you find out? Theres no files on his google source anymore... I just revived a dead thread sorry

check out this review...

http://www.examiner.com/article/google-nexus-7-doesn-t-make-case-for-anroid-tablet

I read it earlier. Seems like a horrible review from an Apple fanboi.

I stopped reading about three sentences in when this "journalist" referred to it as the Galaxy 7.
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holy bias batmam!

This guy isn't a real journalist thankfully. He's a Grade-A dumbass though, stating flat out that the 'iPad Mini' is coming out in October. He has no credibility and this poorly-written article reflects that. Guess that's why he's stuck writing **** for examiner.

His "review" is basically the exact opposite of what literally everyone else is saying.
Where do they find their writers?

Lol he said Jelly bean is clunky... then tells us to wait for the Ipad mini. Smh lol.

You can tell its a fanboy article also from the viewing angle comment. I never once had a crowd of people around me going man "only if your tablet had a 85 degree viewing angle". Simple case of haters gonna hate
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The Nexus 7 includes a 1.2MP front-facing camera. However, there is one main issue—there are currently no apps to take advantage of the camera.
Whaaaat? Did something happen to Hangouts, Google Talk Video Chat, Skype, and every other video chat app? And the plain old camera app can use the front camera can't it? Face unlock.......
What a deluded fellow we have here!

person is probably referring to stock without any added apps
but of course, probably wants to be spoon-fed a camera app

Obviously he doesn't like it, which is fine. But besides the tone which seems dismissive its also just poorly written. It's like a bad forum post. In closing, I wish I didn't encourage this crappy publication by clicking your linkbait

This is the typical iSheep review of any Android device, no matter how good it really is. Even the pictures he took / published are slightly out of focus to add a bit more drama to his pathetic article.
Oh well...

I have to disagree with everything he said apart from the lack of a SD card reader and that the home screen doesn't rotate
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How are these people allowed to write such "drivel" (could use more colourful language but i'd be banned)....the nexus 7 specs outperform 90% of android tablets out there yet this imbecile is saying "if people did 10 minutes of homework they'd find the samsung galaxy tab 7 is better"......wow.
Not to mention in his first 3 lines he says "Google's new tablet has a less than spectacular screen, a clunky operating system and a lack of storage options" unless your fingers are concrete without any feeling of how to use an operating system then maybe, otherwise the rest of your review is doomed
Guys hiring this lunatic...take a look at the verge, unbiased and solely focusing on the product and not the competition.
iPAD mini??? there's only rumors and not an announcement unless you suddenly became a spokesperson for Apple, that said you wouldn't be reviewing this tablet and we wouldn't have to read your jibberish you looney

The examiner is pretty much worthless because most of their writers are hired online with very little vetting and (if I remember correctly, but I'm not 100% sure) they get paid per view. I have a friend who writes for them (political articles). Nice person, but she majored in music education and can't write a cohesive sentence to save her life.
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clunky?
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It's a shame there's no comment section for feedback on that dude. Awful writing, terrible bias, and a clear lack of understanding of how to operate an Android tablet.
Bottom line, there's a reason Apple puts a wall around their garden... not only to keep the outside world out, but to keep their fanbois in. He'll be much better off feeling happy when Apple tells him to.

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It's a shame there's no comment section for feedback on that dude. Awful writing, terrible bias, and a clear lack of understanding of how to operate an Android tablet.
Bottom line, there's a reason Apple puts a wall around their garden... not only to keep the outside world out, but to keep their fanbois in. He'll be much better off feeling happy when Apple tells him to.
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on 90% of modern blogs and CMS packages, you can choose whether you'd like a comments section. This troll clearly didn't want his beliefs questioned.

KiroDawg said:
I read it earlier. Seems like a horrible review from an Apple fanboi.
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Fact that guy is retarded I couldn't believe that he trashed it so hard and it's blatantly obvious he loves Apple.

jptech said:
on 90% of modern blogs and CMS packages, you can choose whether you'd like a comments section. This troll clearly didn't want his beliefs questioned.
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I read this yesterday, and there was a comments section. The comments weren't going his way.
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[REQ] f(X)Tec Pro1-x <xda-badge?>

Do I get one custom xda device profile badge, because of it being an official xda sponsored device? LoL! Joking of course!
This thing does remind me of the Unihertz Titan OG, and how quirky that clunky Passport Personification, or the HTC Touch Pro2 when it got to being flashworthy with all diverted kinds of Rom's and OS'es.
I got it specifically for flashing, but it's so beta-type is funny and admirable in a kinda lovely halfhearted sense of how crazy it acts.
Fortunately, I didn't spend full price on it, lucked out and got one off eBay for $400.
Much more worth this price, cause of the following laughable quirks;
1. If you're powered off and plug in a charger, it powers right up.
2. Touchscreen is sensitive and seems to have ghost touches, not cause of a broken screen but like trying to long press to get the context menu to popup in the browser and so on etc.
3. Fingerprint scanner in the completely wrong place, can't tell you how many times Iberia accidentally hit and not meant to.
4. The same could go for camera shutter button.
5. Tremendously slow speeds for 4g/LTE.
So far, this is all I've noticed on the first half a day's use.
Attempting to transition from Unihertz Titan Pocket and UTP is holding on to my heart still. But again, f(X)Tec Pro1-x IMO and usage is a modding flasher phone.
So what all flavors do we have and is it in these forums or f(x)tec's, I'm curious about SailfishOS and a few others.

I believe you are the first guy who has hands on the fxtec phone and openly admitted using it.
Here you go. You deserve this badge.
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The forums are below. Full of Quality ROMs Rants I believe.
F(x)tec Pro1-X Guides, News, & Discussion
Use this forum to find the best how-to guides for the F(x)tec Pro1-X and discover the latest news. General discussion also goes here.
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For ROMs, your best bet will be the Fxtec community.
Various ROMs available to the Pro1/Pro1X available for download, Links
This is intended as a central entry point with links to known ROMs for the PRO1/PRO1X. You will need android adb / fastboot tools that officially can be found here (Windows / Linux / mAc)Important step BEFORE changing from Android initially!! If you want to ever be able to change the phone back t...
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Wished I would've researched it a bit more, I see the regular Pro1 has a lot more rom's.

DorkyDev said:
Do I get one custom xda device profile badge, because of it being an official xda sponsored device? LoL! Joking of course!
This thing does remind me of the Unihertz Titan OG, and how quirky that clunky Passport Personification, or the HTC Touch Pro2 when it got to being flashworthy with all diverted kinds of Rom's and OS'es.
I got it specifically for flashing, but it's so beta-type is funny and admirable in a kinda lovely halfhearted sense of how crazy it acts.
Fortunately, I didn't spend full price on it, lucked out and got one off eBay for $400.
Much more worth this price, cause of the following laughable quirks;
1. If you're powered off and plug in a charger, it powers right up.
2. Touchscreen is sensitive and seems to have ghost touches, not cause of a broken screen but like trying to long press to get the context menu to popup in the browser and so on etc.
3. Fingerprint scanner in the completely wrong place, can't tell you how many times Iberia accidentally hit and not meant to.
4. The same could go for camera shutter button.
5. Tremendously slow speeds for 4g/LTE.
So far, this is all I've noticed on the first half a day's use.
Attempting to transition from Unihertz Titan Pocket and UTP is holding on to my heart still. But again, f(X)Tec Pro1-x IMO and usage is a modding flasher phone.
So what all flavors do we have and is it in these forums or f(x)tec's, I'm curious about SailfishOS and a few others.
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Oh did i forget to mention....
Bug 6. Jumpy, jittery, tourettes like hyperactive bouncy screen scrolls.
LMAO
This poor thing is a real test of patience!
I pulled out the UTP just to be able to type and post this. Ha

DorkyDev said:
Wished I would've researched it a bit more, I see the regular Pro1 has a lot more rom's.
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DorkyDev said:
Oh did i forget to mention....
Bug 6. Jumpy, jittery, tourettes like hyperactive bouncy screen scrolls.
LMAO
This poor thing is a real test of patience!
I pulled out the UTP just to be able to type and post this. Ha
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Looks like lineage supports the pro1x.
LineageOS Downloads
download.lineageos.org
You can try and be an alpha tester for the same.

karandpr said:
Looks like lineage supports the pro1x.
LineageOS Downloads
download.lineageos.org
You can try and be an alpha tester for the same.
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I've really been considering SailfishOS, again as I mentioned, I mainly got this for flashing, hopefully Linux Mobile too, so it's really just an early adaptation device, which is why I compared it to the days of Windows Mobile and Android just getting really popular on WinMo devices such as the LG Fathom, HTC Touch Pro2, HTC HD2 and MAGLDR / Android2SD. Especially compared to the first two for PKB devices with the versatility to flash multiple OS'es to it.

One other thing, I wouldn't really call it a bug, but this dang pesky sim tray.
7. That darn notch in the dim tray is a real PAIN! LMAO