Hi,
I am getting a Tilt next week, shipped from the USA to Singapore, and found the keyboard's numerics rather - peculiar. I decided that swapping it with a normal TYTN II keyboard would be more aesthetically pleasing.
After searching, I found the replacement HERE.
After searching the forums, I could not find any detailed how-to guides for the keyboard and only some for the LCD screen.
Can anyone provide me with detailed instructions and if possible, pictures, on how to replace my keyboard?
And by doing so will I have to peel off any warranty sticker and void the warranty?
This is a very complex procedure IMO since I am not very technically inclined.
It would be very much appreciated if someone could help me with this.
Thanks!
is that just the keypad or the entire keyboard?
i noticed that the keys are in different locations for the tytn and the tilt. wouldnt that cause conflict? for example, the wifi is in different location, and a bunch of the symbols are in different locations.
I'm not too sure what the difference is but I wanted to change the rubberish keypad, the one that has the silver keys?
The conflict part should not be a problem since I plan to flash other ROMs onto it.
http://xdafiles.100webspace.net/970787
This procedure actually modifies the screen to sit more upright... but goes through the removal of the keyboard.
Good luck. Looks like open heart surgery to me...
My gosh this is totally not what I expexted.
To put it crudely, I don't have the balls to do it. I am not going to risk spoiling my $450 device just to make it more "aesthetically pleasing".
Is this the only way to change the keyboard?!
soooo, not to start a new thread... but is it easy replacing the tilt's keyboard? my S key flew off, and i want to replace the keypad, but before i buy one, i wanted to know how easy/hard it is... any advise?
Hi All
Spent awhile searching the forums (and the web) but couldn't find any relevant answers -- so here goes & apologies if it has been up before...
My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
Could a few raindrops do this?
I have a Hermes/TyTN 'lying around', anyone know if the screens are the same/compatible, was about to start searching for part numbers etc. but thought I'd ask the question anyway.
Any help, answers, pointers or links would be appreciated.
TIA
You could always buy a new touch screen.
I saw one at dealextreme.com for 4.99 , probably not the best quality but you can always give it a try for that price
sku.14919
cnn.cn also has the part , but only in combo with the actual lcd screen.
Thanks RacerII -- will check it out..
Had a similar issue with the touch screen dying after an os crash the other night n thought it was dead. Did a hard reset and reflashed and everything worked just fine. Try the hard reset and reflash first before you think about any repair options
@kaalgoosy
Thanks for the reply -- did a hard reset as you suggested, no change -- about to try a reflash -- currently using L26's B1 ROM, have dl'd B4 and will give that a whirl -- only problem seems to be I have to bypass the Welcome/Screen Alignment section (no touchscreen!) and Activesync seems to be lacking/missing/not working -- so can only try the SD method -- just reading up on that now
ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...
no few drops of rain wont cause that damage...
most new PDAs and new gadgets in general including cams, portable ps... etc has a elements of water resistant+shock resistant and even an anti-magnetic field absorbtion (or something like) to reduce interference with other devices...
blackfoot said:
My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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there must be another reason cuz first sign of water damage will be blurry display..
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the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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get your phone inspected by a professional technician especially if under warranty (dont tell them it was affected by rain drops.. they wont know) it might not be a very fair thing to say but again who said life is fair
blackfoot said:
ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...
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Have you got a web address for the London supplier? I think my screen may be on the way out.
Good luck with the replacement.
@jahrami -- was using the Kaiser's camera to take some photos for my daughter, it started raining while I was taking the last couple. 15-20 drops or so (as I said). Dabbed this off with kitchen roll, put the phone away. Got home a little later, tried to use the phone, no touch -- played around, soft reset etc etc, but nothing.
The rain is the only thing that has happened to it -- the display is perfect, phone itself works perfectly, have hard-reset, reflashed ROM, still no touch control... and while in theory I agree with you that a few drops of rain _shouldn't_ cause this sort of damage, it seems it has. Checked the water damage strip behind the battery, it's white, assume this goes pink/blue or WHY when exposed to real amounts of water.
Sadly, warranty is out (by 1 month) & the local phone shops want £40 to strip it and look... £32 for a screen? I'll do it myself -- if it doesn't fix it, back to the Eten M700...
@ach2 -- tried to put a complete & direct link to the item, message box wouldn't accept it (very long url). This company sells on ebay too, slightly cheaper (27.99 +p&p) and under various other site names, feedback is positive and screens are new. Can't comment on the company personally, unless you wait for a week. Thanks for the good wishes, will probably need them.
http://www.sparepartsformobiles.com search for Kaiser LCD replacement.
OP:
Before you buy anything for 27 quid: Note that there are 2 elements to that screen, as was mentioned (but maybe not quite clear) in post 2. There is the actual screen, which is a liquid crystal screen with thin film transistors with a glass plate on top, but on top of that is a digitizer. The digitizer is literally 2 sheets of slightly conductive plastic put together to assess where the stylus (or your finger) is currently touching it.
The digitizer shouldn't cost you more than about 5-10 quid. The full screen is going to cost you about 30 quid. You definitely don't need a new screen.
I've replaced 2 digitizers and 1 full screen on my HTC magician (I'm very good at smashing it into things) and after I broke it again, I bought a used HTC tilt cause I felt that an upgrade was in order. I ordered the digitizers for the magician and the screens from a generic eBay store in Hong Kong, it arrived the US (Boston) after about 2 weeks, I would expect Old Blighty to be similar.
Greetings from "New" England.
lncdoc
One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.
i will agree with such a temporarily fix, use a combination of virtual mouse
and voice commander and hotkeys shortcuts to navigate through your phone
look for second hand screen, there must be some around dude
EGMine said:
One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.
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Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option
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@incdoc -- Greetings to you too, cousin -- yes I do realise the screen has a separate digitiser (see quote above from earlier post), and in fact, the same supplier has digitisers for £8 but after reading about the difficulties of separating the digitiser from the LCD thought I would save time, effort and money by replacing the LCD in its entirety. I can always play with the older one afterwards, and if I successfully split them will get a touch screen and keep the thing as a spare, which seems like a good idea, as there are now several more posts regarding the same or similar issues to mine, just within the last few days.
Are you suggesting that separation _isn't_ difficult?
@EGMine -- have to say that I haven't heard of VirtuaMouse One-Hand, will look it up -- thanks for the suggestion.
Jahrami -- thanks for the suggestion, about to check VirtuaMouse and completely forgot about Voice Commander, just changed my ROM to L26's B4, (after fault developed) so haven't set the phone up, yet -- but definitely will set up some voice tags.
Big thank you (for telling me something I should have thought of myself -- age really is a bummer!)
Edit** Dl'd trial of VirtuaMouse, good idea -- hard work! Combination of Voice Tags and scroll wheel much better. Eten M700 back in cupboard. ;-))
Dammit, dammit and dammit!
In the interest of rounding things off -- thought I'd post this to (almost) end my (little) epic.
Bought a replacement screen from the source listed above, £32, web price was lower with free shipping, but phoned the order through to get a quicker delivery. Arrived the next day, exactly as ordered. (Bravo!) No tools included, but I have some anyway.
Used Mike Channons guide to replacement (no mention of the sticky keyboard hinge 'finisher' anywhere BTW), all went as planned. Total time to replace about 1hr 15mins. (Not rushing)
Screen kicked in, onto alignment and yippee! -- touch working again!
Knew I shouldn't have had that celebratory cup of tea! -- put SIM in, followed by SD card, phone no longer recognises the SIM. Bu**er!
Stripped the phone again (impressed myself, took less than 10 minutes), checked to see if the SIM ribbon had popped off -- seemed ok, but popped it and reseated it anyway. Reassembled the phone, popped in the SIM -- Bu**er again.
Stripped the phone again (4 minutes -- not bad eh?), checked the SIM connection to the keypad PCB and 2 of the contacts in the socket look slightly mangled.
At this point now I'm wishing I'd gone for the £70 repair option, it's 20 to 1 in the morning (12:40 am to you), the eyes are a little fuzzy and I (once again) have a TyTNII 'kit' in front of me.
Oh well, there's always tomorrow -- now where did I put my Eten M700?
EDIT** Forgot to add a request, if anyone has a TyTNII in bits and wants to sell the keypad PCB, leave info or PM. Thanks.
EDIT 2** Oh well, seems like I _have_ kiboshed the SIM socket on the keypad PCB -- so hoping someone has one (keypad PCB or TyTNII) lying around will sell for bits?
Here's my story:
I recently bought this phone for only $125 - not bad deal if you ask me. I knew from the beginning that the screen was a little mess up, even the guy I bought it from knew that. You would need a flash light in order to see what was on the screen. From any other point of view, it's just totally dark/black. So the guy was gracious enough to include a new lcd screen which he ordered to replace the old one. So I decided to undertake the task of putting it in myself. Once that was all said and done, I powered the tilt up and it was doing the exact same thing before I put the new lcd screen in, which was not lighting up the screen and it was still very dark to see anything.
With a flashlight, you can see that it's still working and the touchscreen works fine too. I think another person posted a thread with the same problem, but no one really replied back to him. Has anyone come across this problem before? Some have said that it's the flex cable that connects to the front d-pad and lcd screen itself is the cause for the back light issue. Any suggestions out there?
If I were you I'd try to figure out the pinouts for the LCD panel. Try to see if the Kaiser is outputting the necessary voltage for the backlight. Also try the opposite and apply voltage to the LCD to test the backlight.
Unless it is 2 back LCDs, I'm assuming there is a fault somewhere internal and not turning on the backlight.
I've never taken my tilt apart, but this is where I would start.
I wouldn't know where to begin to troubleshoot a device like this. Lol! It's fairly easy to take apart - there's actually a video on youtube that takes you step-by-step. I guess this isn't as common as some problems are, but I don't want to spend money having someone else fix something that could be so minute. And prices for some of the replacement parts are almost as expensive as what I bought the phone for.
When I took my tilt apart, physically, everything looked good from what my eyes can see. A little cleaning here and there, nothing major. The guy who had it before me flashed the rom to try and make it look like it had touchflo on it so I reflashed it back to the original rom software (or at least, whatever was on the HTC website). I tried doing hard resets, soft resets, rom flashing and everything, still no luck.
Ive had my X1 for a little over a month and today it decided to break on me. It appears that the right side hinge(when opening up slideout keyboard) has broke. I can fully lift up the screen on the right side and see where it appears there were 2? screws attaching the backplate of the screen to the main part of the phone.
has this happened to anyone before?
im @ work right now and cant get pictures but will snap some when i get home.
the funny thing is that i havent dropped the phone, abused it, or thrown it against the wall due to winmo acting up. ive actually been nice and gentle to it, like a new puppy...
any thoughts?
Hi there Jeff
I've hda the same problem.
It seems that it's a known issue and if you go to a service center they will repair your device for free.
Maybe you have to wait for parts but the will do it for free.
Greetz
i bought a htc hd7 in january this year from a tech mall in hong kong. im now in perth australia and the hd7 is not available here yet.
anyway the phone was great right up until one of my friends dropped/threw my phone into the ground with a decent amount of force. at first i was happy to see that there was no damge to the phone on the outside, the screen wasnt cracked and the casing was fine. the touch screen still worked fine but now there are these lines everywhere. all over the screen. on the right side, there is a strip of just black. im assuming that bit of the screen is completely dead. it gets rid of the last number and continues like that all down the screen. there is also a ugly shade of grey that has the shape of a backwards "l" around the bottom right corner. the only way i can use my phone without these lines is if i set the theme to white, but even then it is extremely dull and greyish. when the theme is on black, everything that is coloured white, such as text or images sends the lines all the way down the screen, perfectly aligned with the white text or image all the way down the screen.
im a little unsure if this is the screen or something more internal. most importantly how/where can i get this fixed?
thanks
video showing the problem
http :// www . you tube . com / watch ?v=dSzh_vJB-cE
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You need a new LCD, search Ebay for one & google for an instruction video.
LCD Replacement on Ebay for $50.00.
Tool Kit Needed to Replace LCD on Ebay for $2.00.
Can't find a Video, but here's a thread with info on how to replace the screen
do you think if i bought the parts and took it to a phone repair shop they would fix it?
I would call the repair place first to see if they'd use the parts you supply & if it'd be any cheaper than just having them use their parts.
I'd say try to find someone in your area who has done screen replacements before who do it for you for a small fee. I've done a few of them, it's not that hard. I've replaced them on the HTC Kaiser & Excalibur. The HD7 should be easier to do as it doesn't have a keyboard.
NOTE: This will void your warranty, so you may want to upgrade the SD Card at the same time if you want 32GB of storage.
well if my phone is covered by warranty then wouldnt htc replace it?
No, warranty doesn't cover damage caused by the user or this case, user's friend. You'd have to of paid for the accidental damage insurance for them to replace it.