HELP - How do I replace my Tilt's keyboard?! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi,
I am getting a Tilt next week, shipped from the USA to Singapore, and found the keyboard's numerics rather - peculiar. I decided that swapping it with a normal TYTN II keyboard would be more aesthetically pleasing.
After searching, I found the replacement HERE.
After searching the forums, I could not find any detailed how-to guides for the keyboard and only some for the LCD screen.
Can anyone provide me with detailed instructions and if possible, pictures, on how to replace my keyboard?
And by doing so will I have to peel off any warranty sticker and void the warranty?
This is a very complex procedure IMO since I am not very technically inclined.
It would be very much appreciated if someone could help me with this.
Thanks!

is that just the keypad or the entire keyboard?
i noticed that the keys are in different locations for the tytn and the tilt. wouldnt that cause conflict? for example, the wifi is in different location, and a bunch of the symbols are in different locations.

I'm not too sure what the difference is but I wanted to change the rubberish keypad, the one that has the silver keys?
The conflict part should not be a problem since I plan to flash other ROMs onto it.

http://xdafiles.100webspace.net/970787
This procedure actually modifies the screen to sit more upright... but goes through the removal of the keyboard.
Good luck. Looks like open heart surgery to me...

My gosh this is totally not what I expexted.
To put it crudely, I don't have the balls to do it. I am not going to risk spoiling my $450 device just to make it more "aesthetically pleasing".
Is this the only way to change the keyboard?!

soooo, not to start a new thread... but is it easy replacing the tilt's keyboard? my S key flew off, and i want to replace the keypad, but before i buy one, i wanted to know how easy/hard it is... any advise?

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New screen for TD?

Hi.
Unfortunately I have made a nasty scratch on my one week old Touch Diamond
As I don't expect there is any magic way to get rid of this scratch, I would like to know if it is possible to get the screen replaced, and how much money I should expect to pay for such operation?
Are you looking for this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Diamond-P3700-LCD-digitizer-Touch-Screen-Lens_W0QQitemZ350079457843QQihZ022QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Yes – Thanks a lot!
At least that confirms that it is possible to get a new screen. My next question is if anyone knows if the new screen is as good quality as the original?
Can it easily be replaced, or should I look for a company who might do it?
Have a look at the service manual which si available in the wiki pages. Taking the Diamond apart appears to be a VERY complex operation, and some items (such as the antenna coax cable) need to be replaced each time they are disconnected. So you should DEFINITELY have a professional do it, and make sure you have all the spare parts you need before you do so...

Tilt Keyboard Replacement

A few of the keys on my AT&T Tilt had broken off, I tried to superglue them back on to no avail. I think I am going to buy another replacement keyboard with the rubber back-thing off eBay and I was wondering if you guys could help me with some instructions on how to replace it.
Is there an easier way to just replace the keyboard rather than taking out the entire back, screen, etc.?
Any links are appreciated as well!
Thank you for any help,
Matt
Search & you will be rewarded:
Here's a link to get you started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458991
Also have a good thread on Kaiser dismantling with photos, have a search for it, loads of threads on this as busted screens, dodgy ribbons & keypad/keyboard replacements are common on the hard working Kaisers.

AT&T Tilt. Screen and keyboard replacement

I was wondering how hard it is to actually perform a keyboard replacement. There is nothing wrong with the actual keys of my Tilt but the buttons underneath don't always register, particularly the "H" and the "E". I was looking over the replace pictures for the keyboard here:
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/Replacing%20the%20LCD%20on%20a%20Kaiser.pdf
Doesn't seem toooo bad. I build computers on the side and have most of the tools. Whats the actual part under the keypad I should be asking for? "Keyboard PCB"???? Anyone have a reputable place I can buy it from? Do I need to reload any CAB files after this install?
I figure since I am taking it apart I should replace the touch screen. Theres nothing wrong with the LCD itself as I have never dropped it (knocks on wood) its just the top mylar protective screen that a bit scratched up. What is that part called?
How many have replaced these parts? What the rate of bricking my Tilt after I attempt this? Do you regret doing it (even successfully) and wish you had just sent it in to a professional service shop and paid the dough to have it done?

Anyone try cleaning the keyboard?

From searching this forum, I can tell that others are having the same issue I am having. It started out with just a couple keys and now about 50% of my keys require me to push really hard for them to type. It is not a lag issue as covered by another thread. It just feels like the there may be dirt or something under the keys that makes it harder to type. This issue also is not ROM related as I have flashed my device with several ROMS with the same result.
Has anyone had any luck taking apart the keyboard and cleaning underneath the keys? If so -- maybe post some tips on what worked or not.
Thanks.
I'd vote for compressed air
I agree. You might be able to disassemble the phone and take the keyboard out and use compressed air. That would make certain that all the dirt is really out of the board...
A work mate of mine did this the other day. He took it fully apart and cleaned it out with contact cleaner. Ill ask him wether it worked or not but I think it did because I saw him using the phone today.
contact cleaner
I've never heard of contact cleaner. I'll have to try that. After looking at this video for disassembly, it doesn't look like you can get underneath the keys. How did your co-worker do it? Pop off the keys like a laptop keyboard?
I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
About screen, but went through keyboard also ..
anagarika said:
I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
About screen, but went through keyboard also ..
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Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.
mwoelmer said:
Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.
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Hmmm, seems that no other way but perhaps replace the keyboard ..
You cant get under the "actual" keyboard without breaking it off the housing. The keys can be pulled off from the top, but the actual buttons are sealed below.
For what little it cost, just replace the whole thing and problems are solved. Just did my son and daughters couple weeks ago.
Im foolish I forgot to ask him about it. Thinking back he may have damaged it lol. He does kind of charge into things and then realise he cant fix it.
Agree with carhigh, just replace the whole thing. Kaiser parts not that expensive nowadays. Just need time to open it up.
I have the same problem. Tried blowing compressed air from the top, but didn't have much success with the keys. I'll probably get a new keypad and replace it!
Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.
Dommo said:
Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.
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Your problem will slowly get worse. More and more keys will require extra pressure. Not sure where you could buy a replacement now (the phone is kind of old). After attempting to clean the keyboard, I gave up. I am just using onscreen keyboard program that is included in TPC's ROM. I think it is called finger keyboard. After a little practice, I am actually faster typing on that than I was with sliding the keyboard.
Try this guys - worked for me in fixing my S key:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431925
Ah. Did not realize the keyboard did not come out of the housing...

[Q] Keyboard HARDWARE problem

Hi,
I'll get straight to the problem, I used to be a heavy texter, and now my keyboard buttons don't always register immediately, so for example I'm typing 'and', what would usually happen is I'd get the partial word - _nd, a_d, an_ and I'd have to go back and press the button multiple times before it actually works.
This is becoming an irritation, since I hardly text nowadays. Planning to get the desire or wildfire, but will need to fix before I sell it :-\ Any advice as to what I should do to get the keyboard fixed? Membrane change?
try using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
newyorkmafia - I don't think the hardware issue will be fixed by a software tweak, though thanks for helping, obviously.
MA2403, you didn't mention which country you live in. Were you thinking of disassembling the TyTn II yourself (to clean membranes with some IPA/replace parts etc.), or are you looking for recommended repairers near to you?
I have the same problem (s, g, h and v mostly) on mine, but having had a screen replacement procedure (by a company) totally bodged (and a Touch Pro 2 about to arrive), I'm loathe to splash out any more on this device.

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