i just got off phone with tmo/n.y. and they told me the phone would not work,even make phone calls without internet did the cupcake update do this because around 5-7 months ago i had internet off on my phone and no problem,i know i will lose features but when u only have "g" in your town no 3g or even edge features suck,help asap please
the phone will work (i.e making callings) without internet.
However the initial setup might be a problem depending on your phone. Search this forum for activating with wifi.
You don't need the data plan
thanks people,i didn't think so,but if anybody has any other answers do answer plz, and the phones already set up,so thats not a problem,i guess until donut comes out,dont think imma gonna change roms anymore,unless somebody makes a hero rom that u just have to do the wipe n update thing,thank people
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thanks people,i didn't think so,but if anybody has any other answers do answer plz, and the phones already set up,so thats not a problem,i guess until donut comes out,dont think imma gonna change roms anymore,unless somebody makes a hero rom that u just have to do the wipe n update thing,thank people
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T-mobile were just talking BS to sell you the data plan. As long as you have GSM reception you can make and recieve calls/sms/mms. They were just trying to con you.
Don't worry about the setup if you install a hero rom because hero roms will ask you to connect to wifi before the setup process to make it quicker or in your case to make it possible.
My son works for T-mo. They won't even sell you certain phones unless you buy the data plan. If that's just his store or what, I don't know. The G1 and mt3g are two of the phones.
yeah lacy,at first i could not even find the phone within 20 miles until they started selling into non 3g areas,but i guess since that they didn't have 3g or even edge they didn't force me,or the rep. messed up when setting up my account.but im gonna remove the internet at the end of the month so if they try to jerk me then ill let everybodu know
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Before i decided to flash a new rom i had been having issues with my phone getting, and staying connected. At first to just data connections, ie 3G. So i decided to try a cooked rom for the first time.
But since then i've had even more troubles getting my phone connected and keeping it connected. Ive been through Hyperdragon III Opal, Dutys latest rom, and now im on the latest AT&T rom, and still im having troubles. Ive hand entered in the Media net connection info so many times ive got it memorized, ive even tried cabs, turning proxy on or off, and just plaing letting it sit for a while. It seems as though every time i try something new it might for a second but next thing i know i lose connection and can't get it again without restarting my phone.
If it helps im currently using HardSPL 3.56, and my phone is running the AT&T ROM version 3.57.502.2 WWE and radio 1.65.21.18
This is a very urgent issue for me as in my job i use my phones internet almost daily.
Ok for a while there with the stock AT&T rom it was working just fine. I went to start adding in a few cabs and it was like my phone once again decided to hate me.
Im not trying shogunmarks DeathV4.1 and have NotATreoFans AT&T v3.2.5 Loaded downloading in case the other doesn't work. I don't even really care about having a really awesome cooked rom, working is about all i am after right now.
UPDATE: Tried both of those ROMs to no effect. ive now broke down and rolled back to the original ROM and SPL that came on my phone when i bought it from the store. I pray this at least gets it working long enough for the Touch Pro to come out and me to get enough money to buy one out of contract. Still if anyone has any ideas im all ears.
Ok i hate adding a new reply or bumping this but now things are getting desperate. I have been through checked and changed every setting, tried everything. now its not just data, the phone itself wont work as a phone. Calls wont go out or come in. If someone trys calling my phone it never goes through, it wont even go to voice mail. This makes no sense at all.
All that comes to mind at this point is a defective phone. If you bought the phone new, then it has a 1 year warranty on it, and AT&T will replace it for you. If it's been less than 30 days, then just box it up and go to an AT&T store for a full exchange.
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Ok i hate adding a new reply or bumping this but now things are getting desperate. I have been through checked and changed every setting, tried everything. now its not just data, the phone itself wont work as a phone. Calls wont go out or come in. If someone trys calling my phone it never goes through, it wont even go to voice mail. This makes no sense at all.
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Set the phone band to GSM manually and see if you can make phone calls. If that works then search for 3G problems. There are a lot of bad devices which suffer 3G not working.
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How did you set-up your data connection? Manually or automatic config?
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All that comes to mind at this point is a defective phone. If you bought the phone new, then it has a 1 year warranty on it, and AT&T will replace it for you. If it's been less than 30 days, then just box it up and go to an AT&T store for a full exchange.
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See this is what i was hoping for, it still being under warranty. I guess ill be calling AT&T today about it. Thank god i got 2 old phones standing by for times like this.
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Set the phone band to GSM manually and see if you can make phone calls. If that works then search for 3G problems. There are a lot of bad devices which suffer 3G not working.
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Yea i downloaded BandSwitch last night on a hunch it was just 3G, and low and behold my phone works fine on EDGE. I can make calls, and get the data connection working.
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How did you set-up your data connection? Manually or automatic config?
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I have tried doing it all by hand, cabs, and even the auto connection wizard. As i discovered last night it wasn't my settings but 3G just not working at all.
Thanks everyone
UPDATE: I called support after rolling my phone back to its original shipped ROM and SPL, and man did the guy at the call center almost crap when he heard how early of a ROM i was using. He said i have to install the newest update first then if its still borken (considering ive had the newest one on here before, i already know the answer to that) that they will send me a new one since im still in my warranty period Yea for customer support
I recently bought an imported unlocked Diamond2. I have AT&T as phone provider. The first day I setup my data plan, it worked, since it stopped. When I call them they say that I can't have data plan with this phone since it's not an AT&T phone and that was the reason why I couldn't access internet.
My concern is: At the beginning, I worked!!! It's just a day after the activation of the data plan that it stops working; I have a feeling that they may have blocked my phone after detecting that it wasn't an at&t phone.
Also when I go do "Data Connection Setup", I can clearly select "United States" and "AT&T"...
Has anyone encounter this issue? Has anyone got a data plan with AT&T and got it to work with the Diamond2?
They killed mine too. I switched over to pay as you go for now until i can get another plan. I will not stay with a company that shafts you at every turn.
OK so it's not just an impression, they really did block the phone... Is this legal???
In any case, I'm going to call T-Mobile to know if this will work.
Unfortunately, yes they can. Most of the time they don't care but since they have contracts with the phone makers and some are exclusively with them, they don't want people to just go out and get whatever phone and use it on their network while they lose money with the contracts they have with the vendors they own. Its all about the bottom line for them and as a business its their right, although I am with you, I hate that; however, its understandable, they are out there to make money. Now I know for sure from AT&T techs that if the phone you are using is NOT on their hardware list BUT its made by one of the hardware providers they have a contract with, then they don't block it. If that helps any.
To give you an example, I have an iPAQ 910c, not a device they sell, but since they support iPAQ 6515, they don't mess with me. I had a Q9h (before my wife took it) and then my friend gave me his HK version I think known as Q9M or something crazy like that and it works fine because its still a Q. You get the idea.
OK.
So I actually got tricked by a d#[email protected]%ss at&t guy who ensured me that my phone couldn't work since it was not an 'at&t certified' phone, which made me suspicious since it first worked.
Then when I read the post of someone having the same issue, I got intrigued and I called AT&T again... with the intention to talk to a manager and to clarify the situation.
This time I ended up talking with a very nice lady, which couldn't help me much except by assuring that the problem wasn't on their side and that my phone should work if it ever worked.
So I started thinking and realized that I actually changed ONE thing between the time it was working and the time it stops working... Guess what... That ONE thing was actually the reason why I couldn't connect to the net anymore...
Back then, I was annoyed by the USSD notification message which kept popping up every hour or so saying: "Your last transaction costs you $0.00..." making by phone beeping every single time... I found that it was actually possible to disable them (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326851).
Well the problem by disabling them is actually you loose also you internet connection . I didn't realize it immediately since I had my wifi connection working.
Now I'm back to day one:
- internet work
- i'm still deeply annoyed by the USSD notification message mentioning a $0.00 transaction
There you have it. They might be money hungry corporate bastards and we may wish them to crash and burn but "sometimes" even they are not at fault and crap just happens. Glad you figured it out and its working for you and remember that although they can block the phone as long its by a manufacturer they support, its unlikely. Take care.
At least they are supporting the HTC Fuze which is a touch pro little brother of the diamond, father of the diamond2
They can't ban an uncle, right?
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At least they are supporting the HTC Fuze which is a touch pro little brother of the diamond, father of the diamond2
They can't ban an uncle, right?
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They can try but you mess with my uncle, you mess with me
that's rough. Mine still seems to be working. Since I reset my phone youtube stopped working but me setting up VOiP might have jacked that up. make sure your connections are set to wap.cingular... other than that I'll let you guys know if mine shuts off.
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that's rough. Mine still seems to be working. Since I reset my phone youtube stopped working but me setting up VOiP might have jacked that up. make sure your connections are set to wap.cingular... other than that I'll let you guys know if mine shuts off.
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Don't sweat it bud, probably a setting got screwy somewhere, it happens quite easily actually. Hope you figure it out but all else fails, nothing more surefire than a reset although its overkill and hope it doesn't come to that.
WOW that really sucks. Have you made sure that you have the right settings? Don't know what they are for ATT. For T-mobile my settings did not work the first day and I was freaking out. The next day everything worked fine.
All I can say is switch to T-mobile. I have been with them since they were VoiceStream. In My 8 years with them I have only owned 2 T-mobile branded phones. The Nokia 3390 and a Rizr Beause my phone got stolen and I needed one bad. The rest of my phones have been Unlocked/Unbranded. I use the $5.99 Unlimited Data Plan Which now is $9.99 but is limited to the amount of data. I used to pay $2.99 but when I got the Rizr was stupid and signed a new contract. T-mobile has never blocked any of my services.
Wow that sound cheap! I'll definitively consider switching once my current pay-as-you-go stuff expire...
Really like the phone but no 3G and switching to Asus P835. At least will get 3G in 1900 frequency area.This one only got 900/2100. Same price..
For AT&T, don't pay the ridiculous price of a data plan, sign up for MediaNET, same exact internet and its much much cheaper. Just whatever you do, DO NOT TELL THEM you have a PDA and on the accounts page DO NOT update your phone to match the PDA, just pick a generic version of the bran you are using.
Which MediaNet plan are you talking about?
I m currently using (trying) the 20$ for 100MB per month as pay-as-you-go service; is there any cheaper one?
(I also notice that youtube doesn't work, even if everything else seems to be working fine (web access, mail, weather...))
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Which MediaNet plan are you talking about?
I m currently using (trying) the 20$ for 100MB per month as pay-as-you-go service; is there any cheaper one?
(I also notice that youtube doesn't work, even if everything else seems to be working fine (web access, mail, weather...))
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The one matching your usage habits. There is cheaper one, the last I checked they had a 5.99 for 500 mb I think. You can check but I can check for you if you want, let me know.
I plan on buying a second hand G1 and rooting it and installing CyanogenMOD 4.0.1. I currently just have a HTC Juno (Shadow) with no data plan and I do not want to get one, is there a way I can disable data so I don't get charged? And do I have to change the APN to use MMS and or SMS with out a data plan? Thank you.
also, will T-mobile give me a unlock code if I didn't buy the G1 from them? (I am a subscriber for more than 90 days)
i have the same question.
thx 4 help.
Just disable the sync and your good to go. Also if u dont have data plan, they wont charge you because it will not work. Thats how Tmobile is anyways. FInally I dont think Tmobile will give you one, just go purchase off of the internet.
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Just disable the sync and your good to go. Also if u dont have data plan, they wont charge you because it will not work. Thats how Tmobile is anyways. FInally I dont think Tmobile will give you one, just go purchase off of the internet.
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Ok, thanks. I didn't know if they would just start charging me per mb. And do you have to change the APN to get MMS with out data, cause I have unlimited messaging but I heard that MMS uses data on the G1?
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Just disable the sync and your good to go. Also if u dont have data plan, they wont charge you because it will not work. Thats how Tmobile is anyways. FInally I dont think Tmobile will give you one, just go purchase off of the internet.
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Actually you have apps that go out and try to get updates and other info without you know, so just turning off sync won't work. There is an app on the market (can't remember the name) that stops all outgoing data.
Thx for the answers!
Could anyone tell us the name of this app?
If I remember right it's droid"something" or "something"droid, but of course without the "something"
And you will be charged if you don't have a data plan if you don't stop the data from going out.
here is the app!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541380
its called " droid wall"
Yep that's it. I knew it was droid somthing.
First, T-mobile WILL give you an unlock code for a secondhand G1 if you're not delinquent and have been a customer for 90+ days. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. You have that "feature" every 90 days.
Second, T-mobile tracks G1s (and I'm sure MyTouch3Gs) by IMEI on their network, so they DO KNOW what phone you have. I think you can circumvent the need to buy a data plan, but more than likely you'll receive a "upgrade" message every time your phone tries to download some data. Could just be annoying, but if you're not using data, you might be able to get away with it.
That being said, why buy a smartphone if you're not going to use it as one? I can promise, you won't enjoy your phone to the fullest without data. Sorry.
Thank you everyone for your help.
I know it seems dumb to have a smart phone w/o data, but I don't really wanna pay t-mobile for it. And I can just use wi-fi most of the time.
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That being said, why buy a smartphone if you're not going to use it as one? I can promise, you won't enjoy your phone to the fullest without data. Sorry.
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Actually, I think that data is a waste of money. I survive and enjoy my android just fine without it. Most places that people visit and commute to everyday has access to WiFi(school,home,work,cafe,etc). There is no need to pay the double bill, unless the said places doesnt have wifi.
Voice and 2G/3G connection every now and then falls away.
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I have the following problem.
Hi I have a plan with extra fast with endless online. But every now and then suddenly falls away and my connection voice and 2G/3G can I just restore it in airplane mode to turn back and pick up.
Are there more people with same problem? I have an G1. The SIM card only 8 weeks old.
I like to hear from you.
I have experienced this before also.
Happens to me fairly often too.
Exactly just had this happen to me today while in the grocery store. Rebooted and it was back, but still weird.
I actually used to have that problem too, where data just went away. Rebooting worked, but then one day a reboot didn't work, next day I got 3g. Then I decided to go to hero roms and haven't had the problem since, so I think that hero does something that fixes the network
Sometimes i go from a 3G to G then ut decides to go to edge.There are even times when it doesnt connect to data at all.
you go in and out of coverage area's and that's what happen's, t-mobile's 3g network isn't as expansive as they'd have you believe, plenty of pockets/holes throughout, even in places where it should be all 3g.
how is this post not moved/deleted/flamed yet for being in the dev's section :-D
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you go in and out of coverage area's and that's what happen's, t-mobile's 3g network isn't as expansive as they'd have you believe, plenty of pockets/holes throughout, even in places where it should be all 3g.
how is this post not moved/deleted/flamed yet for being in the dev's section :-D
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Yeah, but I mean that I would have data then it would turn off and it would turn back on in the same place after a reboot.
And I think most of us just finally gave up on keeping questions out of the development sections, it is a lost cause. At least for me it is
Well yes staying on tmo might as well be a lost cause...i struggle to stay on 3G and even on data period, i doubt verizon or sprint would give me these troubles...
It's not a coverage problem, It can happen at the top floor of my school where usually I would have full bars, and as said it's fixed by switching into Airplane mode and then back to normal mode.
I think it happens when it's in my pocket and the coverage strength goes up and down a lot, maybe it gets a bit confused lol (Although it didn't happen on the stock firmware, running Cyanogen 4.2.7.1)
Its not only T-mobile, I too have that problem that too being in India on Airtel Also had these problems at National Roaming... Means When I was Out of local Network too... So its not the Problem of Coverage...
There's an open bug for this particular problem
Cf:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2845
I've had this problem since day one on my G1, it doesn't matter what ROM I'm running, it even did it with the stock ROM.
It seems Android isn't so great at reconnecting you to the network once you've lost signal. Ideally you need a process running in the background to reconnect you - think 'No Signal Alert' in the market with an option to scan for networks then reconnect you.
I've got a shortcut on one of my home screens to the network operators scan page as I have to do this most days
Good old T-Mobile coverage..
Well with the rumors of Sprint and T-Mobile merging hopefully they will band together and give us better coverage. 3G and or 4G all day and all night would be HUGE!!!
If any big CEO's is reading this from either of these companies, PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
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Well with the rumors of Sprint and T-Mobile merging hopefully they will band together and give us better coverage. 3G and or 4G all day and all night would be HUGE!!!
If any big CEO's is reading this from either of these companies, PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
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HA Ha Ha Ha............ NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!
We would never ever take that network over....Ours maybe spotty but we WILL have the fastest 3G Network................4G is a joke...if you look at the fine print 4G is their goal but isn't even possible yet....DT (t-moble Mother company) over seas was looking into buying sprint but they're in way too much debt....issues from this post sounds like simcard or issues with the IHLR (our backdoor) so call t-mobile to make sure it cannot be fix on our end or... it can be a bad radio download or flash...I have 1 bar on 3G and 2 on edge but i have never had the issues stated in this post so coverage is not it!!! hope this helps!
I also have issues with signal being dropped or getting hung. My G1 will be sitting in the same place for an hour or longer and sometimes it just stops transfering data. I'll check it by going to the market and it can take a few min before anything happens. Sometimes when I download an app from the market it will take up to 5 or 10 min to see anything transfer. I haven't noticed any issues with taking or making calls but data transfers are touch and go. Now sometimes I won't have a problem all day then the next day...in the same spot with great coverage....data transfers just seem to be sketchy. I don't know if it's t-mobile or the roms but something is quirky.
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I also have issues with signal being dropped or getting hung. My G1 will be sitting in the same place for an hour or longer and sometimes it just stops transfering data. I'll check it by going to the market and it can take a few min before anything happens. Sometimes when I download an app from the market it will take up to 5 or 10 min to see anything transfer. I haven't noticed any issues with taking or making calls but data transfers are touch and go. Now sometimes I won't have a problem all day then the next day...in the same spot with great coverage....data transfers just seem to be sketchy. I don't know if it's t-mobile or the roms but something is quirky.
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Actually i have seen that happening with the market too but only with a theme added to the rom...must be something with background data transfers and the theme using too much memory....but is not an issue at all on non rooted phones....i checked at work!!!
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Not to get off the subject but to the t-mobile guy I want to know how did u get the job with them? I applied a few times but got no response.
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Not to get off the subject but to the t-mobile guy I want to know how did u get the job with them? I applied a few times but got no response.
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Pm me since off topic....
So I've done plenty of searching, enough so that I was able to unlock my phone without the data working, rooted my phone, flashed and modded it, successfully running newest Biffmod.
That being said, i'm 100000% sure I have a working data plan, my plan is unlimited everything.
Works fine in any of my other phones, Dash 3G, HTC HD2, Unlocked Samsung blackjack i607.. The difference, those are all windows mobile phones?
But the HTC HD2 Dual boots android 2.2 froyo and data works there.
Yup, same sim I'm talking about, same plan, just different phones.
Any Idea why my data plan is not working with the G1? Am I doing something wrong? It worked when i FIRST got this phone (ordered it off ebay not that long ago to play with).. After factory reset/wipe before modding is when it all went sour.
Was stuck on log in screen so I had to do the work around to get into the phone, obviously not with Biffmod I can skip.. But I cant use market place, check e-mail, ANYTHING data related. Yet my Icon says 4 bars, 3G and I even see the "up" and "down" data xfer arrows giving me activity.
It's as if it's "there" just not working.
Any help would be great appreciated, I plan to go to T-mobile and hopefully one of the people there will actually have some tech savvy.. Wishful thinking.
Long story short, I just want my data to work. Please, and thank you.
Do a search on here for the correct APN setings for your provider.
edit: here's the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475564
Read the thread, it's for ATT users trying to use a T-Mobile phone.
The issue is that I actually have T-mobile.
I'm fairly sure I saw the apn settings for t-mo in there too. That's probably what you should be checking first.
Sent from my G1 using XDA App
Just google Tmobile's US apn settings or grab them from another of your devices, then it will work.
Perfect, I'll give that a shot when I get home from work today, thanks for all the help so far.