G'day all.
This is the second rom that has this problem, so I assume it is the Manill software.
If it reset, I have a 50/50 chance of losing manilla.
If I turn it off via settings->Today it will never come back.
Screen stays black and a hard reset is the only way to fix it.
Any cabs, tricks or other threads?
you might want to post the question in the thread for the ROM you are using.
Try flashing the ROM again....issues like these can happen because of a bad flash. Follow all the instructions by the chef of the ROM that you are using. Manila2D works fine generally on all phones.
I'll do that. But I was hoping to know if this issue has occured on more phones than mine.
I've had Manilla behave flakily under a couple ROMs, but it sounds like you've gotten a worse case than I've seen.
Any ideas of what is causing this? I tried re-installing the cab for manilla 2D but to no avail.
A hard reset fixes the issue but is a real pain in the ass, because it just happens again.
I had the exact same problem. Manila didn't want to start. I tried like everything I could think of, except a hardreset. I flashed a different ROM, not using Manila anymore from now on!
don't give up yet...
Are you guys using a the manila cab or flashing a manila rom? I have to say that I used the cab version for a while when i didnt want to flash a rom, but I eventually started flashing roms and enjoy the Manila versions. I found one in particular that is ultra stable and rather lite. It is RRE Manila 6.0 (found here). Give this one a shot becuase it is worth the effort.
As many, in the last weeks I have flashed several WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROMs an repeatedly had lock-ups and hard resets. Many have reported similar issues in the various threads.
Some have repeatedly said that first flashing an original (WM 6.1) Stock-ROM first and then the WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROM solved the problem. I can now confirm, that, at least it improves the situation and dramatically reduces hard resets!
Here is my record (Or course I alwas did the orignal Hard Reset after flashing):
Flashing Dutty LEO R1 from WM 6.1/Manila 2.1: No Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R1 to Dutty LEO R2: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to R3: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to RTT R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
RTT R5 to LEO R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
LEO R5 to LEO R5 over WM 6.1 Stock Rom: No Lock ups / Hard Resets (since one week)
Strangely enough the detour through a Stock ROM seems to result in a better working device. Maybe it is also only an issue when going from WM 65. to another WM 6.5-ROM
It seems as if the WM 6.5 ROMs, are not correctly clearing the device on the initial hard reset, or leaving garbage somewhere in memory where they shouldn't. This could also explain why some users are having fully divergent results using the same ROM.
What are your experiences? Any thoughts?
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As many, in the last weeks I have flashed several WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROMs an repeatedly had lock-ups and hard resets. Many have reported similar issues in the various threads.
Some have repeatedly said that first flashing an original (WM 6.1) Stock-ROM first and then the WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROM solved the problem. I can now confirm, that, at least it improves the situation and dramatically reduces hard resets!
Here is my record (Or course I alwas did the orignal Hard Reset after flashing):
Flashing Dutty LEO R1 from WM 6.1/Manila 2.1: No Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R1 to Dutty LEO R2: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to R3: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to RTT R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
RTT R5 to LEO R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
LEO R5 to LEO R5 over WM 6.1 Stock Rom: No Lock ups / Hard Resets (since one week)
Strangely enough the detour through a Stock ROM seems to result in a better working device. Maybe it is also only an issue when going from WM 65. to another WM 6.5-ROM
It seems as if the WM 6.5 ROMs, are not correctly clearing the device on the initial hard reset, or leaving garbage somewhere in memory where they shouldn't. This could also explain why some users are having fully divergent results using the same ROM.
What are your experiences? Any thoughts?
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I hard reset twice after flashing 6.5 roms. works perfect for me
I have flashed a multitude of roms including those mentioned by yourself above and I can honestly say that I haven't had a lock up resulting in me having to hard reset.
I use HSPL and after flashing a new rom, I automatically hard reset device (usually only once) before automatic configuration takes place when device first boots up.
This appears to work for me as I haven't needed to hard reset device afterwards due to a lockup on any rom, including latest test builds
Hiya,
I've been using this phone for 2 months now, I've flashed a number of roms, ranging from windows mobile 6.0 to 6.5, I am currently using energy rom, however, with every rom I've used so far, the phone turns itself off at random intervals (i.e. goes into standby and won't come out).
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? it's really irritating, it basically renders the alarm next to useless and having to pull off the cover/soft reset several times daily which is very inconvenient!
Any help is appreciated
try a clean rom, I've never had any problems with the Unoff series wm6.5 roms
key lock
when its in stanby mode slide out the qwerty keyboard. if it come back on i know what the probelm is
If it's the same behavior across different ROMs, it may well be a hardware problem. Try flashing a stock ROM and see if it still turns off by itself.
Or it could be that one of your installed programs is turning your phone off.
I was having the same problem with my X1, it happens with all manilla roms i tryed.
At certain point i was thinking it was a hardware problem till i use Christian's Clean Rom and the Xperio from Valkyrie both without Manilla.
Hi! For a while I've been searching for a reason why my phone seems to freeze almost daily while charging or before / after I snooze a morning alarm. And sometimes during the night, maybe it's random. By freeze I mean the phone is sleeping and when I push the power button nothing happens. The only way to restart it is to take off the cover and either remove the battery or press the little reset button.
I use itje's ROM with standard WM6.5 and Manila 2.1. I tried diferent builds and newer Leo ROMs, but I always get the same problem. It didn't happen some time ago when I was using WM6.1 + Manila 2.0.
While searching in the forums for solutions, I noticed there are some users with the same random freezes using various ROMs from different chefs. But most of the users don't seem to have this problem, which is weird. I guess the hardware should be the same, so does anyone have any idea why this freezing happens only to some of us?
I tried different methods and ROMs, countless hard resets and re-flashes, even additonal Stock-SPL and Hard-SPL, but nothing seems to work. It even happens if I install no other programs and don't have the SD inserted into the phone, only my SIM card. So it's not from external programs (like G-Alarm) either.
Well, any helpful information or advice? Thanks!
I am experiencing the same problem. If anyone got a solution for this, please share.
Regards, Eduardo.
i have the same problem to but only with the cooked wm 6.5 roms and higher not with the rom that came with my x1
i get the same problem. i'm using itje's Touch I-T Xperience 15 6.5
Now I flashed a WM6.1 ROM with Manila 2.1 to see if I still get the problem. Do you think our phones have a problem with the Windows 6.5 builds or maybe the problem is with Manila?
Did anyone try to live with one of these ROMS for a few days with Manila disabled to see if you still get the freeze? Maybe I'll try this also after I finish my 6.1 test. It's very annoying that we don't even know the cause for this freeze yet...
have the same problem when using 6.5 but when on 6.1 nothing of the kind...
Just to share. Some chefs have mentioned this and I myself can attest to it.
I was using 2 ROMs that were free of the problem more than 24 hours , Touch X 10.8.2 and Valkyrie 4.5.502. And both times I managed to cause the "standby of death" by using 2 different alarm programs, G-Alarm and Klaxon. Once I activated alarms using these programs, within 3-4 hours my phone froze.
That's my experience anyways. Some ROMs by default will die without doing anything, so I'm not sure about those. But if you have a stable ROM and want to avoid it, I think it should be fine.
Well, I can confirm that on various itje 6.5 ROMs I get the standby of death without installing any alarm program. I didn't install ANY programs, for what it's worth. And others can use G-Alarm 2.3 and don't get this freeze.
Didn't use Valkyrie ROMs yet. I'm testing now Touch X 10.8.2 and I have G-Alarm 2.3 installed. Let's see if it dies in the next 48 hours while on a 6.1 build...
Here is my experience...
I never got standby freeze issue(never used G-alarm/Klaxon), but i do get black screen or garbled screen issue randomly while receiving call irrespective of the ROMS(wm 6.5/6.5.1).
Only one time almost a week i didnt face this issue, then later problem repeated. So i realized that week i've used COM4 build. So for testing it i tried again same one for a week and problem didnt exists. Since the ROM which i used has default X1 dialer which i didnt like at all.. so got updated to other ROM and started face the same issue
Maybe some of us have a slightly different harware in our X1 that triggers this freeze, but only in WM 6.5?
So far the WM6.1 + Manila 2.1 is working fine, lots of customizations made by me after flashing too. G-Alarm managed to wake me up OK.
Darkchaser said:
Just to share. Some chefs have mentioned this and I myself can attest to it.
I was using 2 ROMs that were free of the problem more than 24 hours , Touch X 10.8.2 and Valkyrie 4.5.502. And both times I managed to cause the "standby of death" by using 2 different alarm programs, G-Alarm and Klaxon. Once I activated alarms using these programs, within 3-4 hours my phone froze.
That's my experience anyways. Some ROMs by default will die without doing anything, so I'm not sure about those. But if you have a stable ROM and want to avoid it, I think it should be fine.
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Well you can count Valkyrie 4.5.502 out because i installed it yesterday and this morning after my alarm went off about 20mins later the phone frooze. I have been experiencing this for the past months and i REALLY hate this phone now. I have tried all sorts of tricks from reseting the phone around 9pm to just not running ANY program and it still freezes. I have tried all sorts of roms with the exception of Touch X 10.8.2. I guess i might as well give that one a try. I will keep an eye on this thread for a solution.
On an older Valkyrie TR build I was getting the problem and I fixed it by doing a soft reset with the SD card out, waiting for everything to load up and run nicely, then inserting the card again. Went to the music tab and waited for it to load all my tunes and the same with photos. Didn't have the problem after that, but I was only on that ROM for about a week.
I thought it may be related to usb port driver issues in WM6.5, but it could also be the audiomanager in manila or some conflict between a WM6.5 process and a manila process.
Anyway, will be trying 4.4.81TR Valkyrie and see...
But the biggest question is why some (most) people never have this problem...
Never seen this problem on WCX 22001 Pure wm6.5 rom and I'm using it for about one month. I've installed many apps and my X1 works great with battery about 2-3 days using WIFI, BT, and all other stuff. No Manila - no problem in this case. It's an older build of WM6.5 but with newer builds WCX Rom users didn't complain about freezing problem or alarm issues.
So maybe it's Manila?
Today I wanted to flash Itjes newest ROM but I'll wait for solution couse my phone should wake me up today
Can program your phone Lockscreen has frozen the rechargeable device. Best before charging you restart your phone and not run any programs.
yes i get this problem too.. every morning my phone is off.... so it really needs to be looked into.. it seems to occur from more recent builds of 6.5..
i was previously using a wild child pure rom from about 3-4 months ago (6.5 early build)... this issue never happened...
then recently i upgraded to the V11 Unoff series and now it occurs.. and is obviously occuring for a lot of people with other recent builds of 6.5...
if the solution is ever found please let us know....
I might be completely off here... but I used to have this problem often, in addition to having slide to unlock malfunction on me, even with the newer rom builds.
When I unchecked the boxes that said display owner information/notes when device is turned on, both problems were gone - it might just be a coincidence though and I've only been testing it for 2 days.
Hey guys,
I've been having the same problem, only that this are the situations in which I faced the issue with my X1i (and managed to replicate the freeze):
-Receiving SMS while charging (no pc conection)
-Charging while alarm goes off (again no pc)
-When task or appointment announcement sets itself to sleep (i.e: you ignore it) while charging. (go figure, no PC)
-When after ignoring (not hitting dismissed button) task or appointment screen shuts off (Running on battery)
I've also gotten the problem in other situations, but i couldn't replicate them. The only Thing I did notice was that there is a growth in the rate this happens over a span of 3 days after flashing/hard reseting. In my case, it was one increment per day (ie: 1st day, happened once; 2nd day, twice; 3times the 3rd day.. then, i reseted or replicated, so my statistics went down the pipe )
Other thoughs: what radio are you guys using? maybe we can narrow it down to a radio as well. Thus far I've seen it narrowed it down to Manila 2.5, but then others do not have this (and then there me, with Manila 2.1, that has it ). I changed my radio y-day and hasn't happened yet (xing fingers though...) wil try to replicate tomorrow after my alarm wakes me up
My info:
X1i Black (came with R3 generic UK ROM, Radio. 1.14...)
Issues happened with: Radio 1.10.25.18 (Installed with NRG's ROM vOCT 28)
ROM info: (see signature..)
Manila: v2.1.191...
Current radio: 1.14...
Carrier: AT&T US
I tried to contribute as much info I could get about this issue... hope we can get it solved.
I'll try to flash again a WM6.5 version to see what radio will be installed. This week I needed my phone WORKING , so I used a 6.1 ROM.
I didn't find a pattern for my freezes, but I think it mostly happened while charging from the outlet, or in the morning before the alarm went off (very bad thing to happen), or after I snoozed the alarm (again, very bad).
I read somewhere that it's useful to format your SD card before flashing. I don't see how this could help, but I'll try to flash via USB or from another newly-formated SD card. I always flashed with kovsimg.nbh on the SD root and I only formatted it when I got the phone, 9 months ago...
Also, some say it's good to flash first an original ROM, hard reset, then install the custom ROM again. I tried that, even stock-SPL and hard-SPL again, but didn't seem to work. Maybe I had 48 hours without freeze, but then it started again.
@8SE8 - I never had those options checked, so we can rule that out I guess.
I have been reading about this issue here and in another forum - mainly
because I had seen it only one single time. It actually occured when I was
loading the device during the night. I do not remember which ROM it was
exactly, except that it was an itje ROM with Manila 2.5.
Then, I went back to Manila 2.1 and WinMo 6.1, Touch_X 10.X.X. Must say,
that is still my fallback ROM, it feels extremely fast, it is stable, memory
usage is low - what else to wish?
Next, I went to the multilanguage Rhodium based Manila 2.1 and WinMo 6.5
from itje in my own language. After installing FM Tuner, a correct dialer and
some tweaks, it is also very fast and stable, memory usage at 50%. No more
soft resets since almost a week now, no "stand-by of death".
The difference to others is maybe: I do not flash using the SD card, always
with the USB connection. Is this provoking the difference? I cannot imagine,
but this is what I can contribute here.
Hi Guys,
I suppose one good thing to come out of me constantly finding my HD dead after it being on standby for a few hours (it seems intermittent) is that it seems many others are having similar issues.
Can people post their findings to the following question so we can help the community at large narrow down the issue:
When your device hangs/freezes, is it in standby or in use?
If the unit is in Standby, are you using Manila 2.5 or an earlier version?
Which WM version are you using? (6.1 of 6.5)
Have you unticked the "Today timeout" on the Today Settings screen?
My experiences are as follows:
I have only seen this since I have been using a 6.5 ROM
I have only seen this since I have been using Manila 2.5 (i think)
I install only a small number of applications
I have used both MyPhone and PIM Backup to restore info
oh and finally, it's bloody annoying!!!
If anyone has any information as to what could be causing this please post. I'm sure we'd all give our left nut to get this fixed?
This does seem to be an issue that effects some and not others, I had it happen a few times but after flashing back to an official ROM then back to custom (including SPL) I have using custom ROMs for a while now without this occuring again.
Flashmore, thanks for your input. Can you state what steps you followed for others?
Glad to hear someone else is also having the same problem, and that it doesn't sould like a hardware issue.
I have recently been trying to figure out what is causing the lock-ups.
It doesn't happen with WM 6.1 roms.
Always happens is standby, with screen off I think. Nearly always when charging and power off then on using power buttin.
Seems to be happening to me wth WM 6.5 Manila 2.5 or earlier.
Nothing changed for the today timeout.
Using apps that come with rom, nothing extra.
Going back to WM 6.1 until a cure is found.
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Glad to hear someone else is also having the same problem, and that it doesn't sould like a hardware issue.
I have recently been trying to figure out what is causing the lock-ups.
It doesn't happen with WM 6.1 roms.
Always happens is standby, with screen off I think. Nearly always when charging and power off then on using power buttin.
Seems to be happening to me wth WM 6.5 Manila 2.5 or earlier.
Nothing changed for the today timeout.
Using apps that come with rom, nothing extra.
Going back to WM 6.1 until a cure is found.
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I'm attempting to systematically find out what the problem is by installing the same programs each flash with the exception of one. The first attempt was to move back to Manila 2.1 - so far so good but I'm expecting the same to happen at some point.
I want a good ROM, but I'm more bothered about not missing an emergency phone call because my phone is dead!
Hi all.
I'm not sure if this is actually related since when I experienced these so called "lock ups" my phone hard reset and corrupted the SD card as well. This happened two times with HD and once with Diamond2. Both phones with WM6.5.
I'm using corporate exchange and get enforced a device lock policy. I noticed that each time the device froze it was displaying the "classic" device lock number keyboard although the "default" (the new wm6.5) lock was selected.
Anyway, both phones have been working perfectly with WM6.5 and manilla 2.5 after I have started to use the ugly "classic" lock screen.
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i think this is a conflict about the option ''turn off the backlight'' if you disabled it (on battery power and on external power) the problem disappear. i don´t know why it happes but this is my solution (since the revision 9...)
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i think this is a conflict about the option ''turn off the backlight'' if you disabled it (on battery power and on external power) the problem disappear. i don´t know why it happes but this is my solution (since the revision 9...)
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That's interesting. I might try that.
I have been on Manila 2.1 for a few days and so far so good though.
I'm on WM 6.5 w/ Manila 2.1 for a couple of days and it has happened to me too.
I just tried disabling the options for turning off backlight and turning off phone. Hopefully this "fixes" the problem.
Check this thread, same subject, more details !
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As said by Kostas66 above me. I guess this thread will soon get a lock...
As per post#10 & 11, please use this thread for future posts
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