Flashin WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROMs - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

As many, in the last weeks I have flashed several WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROMs an repeatedly had lock-ups and hard resets. Many have reported similar issues in the various threads.
Some have repeatedly said that first flashing an original (WM 6.1) Stock-ROM first and then the WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROM solved the problem. I can now confirm, that, at least it improves the situation and dramatically reduces hard resets!
Here is my record (Or course I alwas did the orignal Hard Reset after flashing):
Flashing Dutty LEO R1 from WM 6.1/Manila 2.1: No Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R1 to Dutty LEO R2: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to R3: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to RTT R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
RTT R5 to LEO R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
LEO R5 to LEO R5 over WM 6.1 Stock Rom: No Lock ups / Hard Resets (since one week)
Strangely enough the detour through a Stock ROM seems to result in a better working device. Maybe it is also only an issue when going from WM 65. to another WM 6.5-ROM
It seems as if the WM 6.5 ROMs, are not correctly clearing the device on the initial hard reset, or leaving garbage somewhere in memory where they shouldn't. This could also explain why some users are having fully divergent results using the same ROM.
What are your experiences? Any thoughts?

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As many, in the last weeks I have flashed several WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROMs an repeatedly had lock-ups and hard resets. Many have reported similar issues in the various threads.
Some have repeatedly said that first flashing an original (WM 6.1) Stock-ROM first and then the WM 6.5 / Manila 2.5 ROM solved the problem. I can now confirm, that, at least it improves the situation and dramatically reduces hard resets!
Here is my record (Or course I alwas did the orignal Hard Reset after flashing):
Flashing Dutty LEO R1 from WM 6.1/Manila 2.1: No Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R1 to Dutty LEO R2: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to R3: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
Dutty LEO R2 to RTT R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
RTT R5 to LEO R5: Multiple Lock ups / Hard Resets
LEO R5 to LEO R5 over WM 6.1 Stock Rom: No Lock ups / Hard Resets (since one week)
Strangely enough the detour through a Stock ROM seems to result in a better working device. Maybe it is also only an issue when going from WM 65. to another WM 6.5-ROM
It seems as if the WM 6.5 ROMs, are not correctly clearing the device on the initial hard reset, or leaving garbage somewhere in memory where they shouldn't. This could also explain why some users are having fully divergent results using the same ROM.
What are your experiences? Any thoughts?
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I hard reset twice after flashing 6.5 roms. works perfect for me

I have flashed a multitude of roms including those mentioned by yourself above and I can honestly say that I haven't had a lock up resulting in me having to hard reset.
I use HSPL and after flashing a new rom, I automatically hard reset device (usually only once) before automatic configuration takes place when device first boots up.
This appears to work for me as I haven't needed to hard reset device afterwards due to a lockup on any rom, including latest test builds

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WM5 hung at startup screen!!!

Hi,
I have just upgraded my Blue Angel's (BA) ROM to the WM5 AKU3.5.2 R5 Rom Kitchen v2 last night, but start having issues already!
There are a couple of scenarios that I found the BA will hang at the startup screen when the Windows Mobile logo appears.
1. The first scenario was when I changed my battery. I turned off the screen, pull the battery out and replaced it. The BA hung!
2. I installed SPB Pocket Plus 3 and uses the embedded RESET function (icon) to restart the BA. Every single time I did it, the BA hung. (And I have tried more than 5 times. It really started to piss me off!)
The only solution that I can get back to the WM5 system was to give my BA a hard reset! The paid was to LOSE ALL the programs I have installed!
Has anyone experienced this before? What was wrong with it?! Did I do something ridiculously wrong or just another bug (a big one!) of the ROM? If it's a bug, anyone has a smarter way to get around it rather than hard resetting the BA before the fix comes out?
Many Thanks!
Spent hours on it!!!! Resolved by upgrading the ROM to the latest AKU3.5.2 R5 Rom Kitchen v2 and use the default setting with "BuildOS.exe".
Cheers

soft reset problem

Everytime I need to reset my phone it seems to just lock up at the second loading screen the only way I have around this currently is a hard reset. I'm using Duttys 6.1 WWE does anyone else have this issue. Is it ROM specific or a lack of basic intelligence
Hmm maybe ask in the Dutty rom thread? I ran it for about a month and didn't have a problem.

Manila 2.5 Battery problem

Hi, i tested different ROM. manila 2.5 consumes too much battery. manila 2.1 is very good. Why ?
is that true
try hard resets after each flash, and make sure that you are trying the different radios aswell, the radios have different characteristics with different roms
tvrtim ;
Thank you i will hard reset.

Solutions to charging and standby freeze?

Hi! For a while I've been searching for a reason why my phone seems to freeze almost daily while charging or before / after I snooze a morning alarm. And sometimes during the night, maybe it's random. By freeze I mean the phone is sleeping and when I push the power button nothing happens. The only way to restart it is to take off the cover and either remove the battery or press the little reset button.
I use itje's ROM with standard WM6.5 and Manila 2.1. I tried diferent builds and newer Leo ROMs, but I always get the same problem. It didn't happen some time ago when I was using WM6.1 + Manila 2.0.
While searching in the forums for solutions, I noticed there are some users with the same random freezes using various ROMs from different chefs. But most of the users don't seem to have this problem, which is weird. I guess the hardware should be the same, so does anyone have any idea why this freezing happens only to some of us?
I tried different methods and ROMs, countless hard resets and re-flashes, even additonal Stock-SPL and Hard-SPL, but nothing seems to work. It even happens if I install no other programs and don't have the SD inserted into the phone, only my SIM card. So it's not from external programs (like G-Alarm) either.
Well, any helpful information or advice? Thanks!
I am experiencing the same problem. If anyone got a solution for this, please share.
Regards, Eduardo.
i have the same problem to but only with the cooked wm 6.5 roms and higher not with the rom that came with my x1
i get the same problem. i'm using itje's Touch I-T Xperience 15 6.5
Now I flashed a WM6.1 ROM with Manila 2.1 to see if I still get the problem. Do you think our phones have a problem with the Windows 6.5 builds or maybe the problem is with Manila?
Did anyone try to live with one of these ROMS for a few days with Manila disabled to see if you still get the freeze? Maybe I'll try this also after I finish my 6.1 test. It's very annoying that we don't even know the cause for this freeze yet...
have the same problem when using 6.5 but when on 6.1 nothing of the kind...
Just to share. Some chefs have mentioned this and I myself can attest to it.
I was using 2 ROMs that were free of the problem more than 24 hours , Touch X 10.8.2 and Valkyrie 4.5.502. And both times I managed to cause the "standby of death" by using 2 different alarm programs, G-Alarm and Klaxon. Once I activated alarms using these programs, within 3-4 hours my phone froze.
That's my experience anyways. Some ROMs by default will die without doing anything, so I'm not sure about those. But if you have a stable ROM and want to avoid it, I think it should be fine.
Well, I can confirm that on various itje 6.5 ROMs I get the standby of death without installing any alarm program. I didn't install ANY programs, for what it's worth. And others can use G-Alarm 2.3 and don't get this freeze.
Didn't use Valkyrie ROMs yet. I'm testing now Touch X 10.8.2 and I have G-Alarm 2.3 installed. Let's see if it dies in the next 48 hours while on a 6.1 build...
Here is my experience...
I never got standby freeze issue(never used G-alarm/Klaxon), but i do get black screen or garbled screen issue randomly while receiving call irrespective of the ROMS(wm 6.5/6.5.1).
Only one time almost a week i didnt face this issue, then later problem repeated. So i realized that week i've used COM4 build. So for testing it i tried again same one for a week and problem didnt exists. Since the ROM which i used has default X1 dialer which i didnt like at all.. so got updated to other ROM and started face the same issue
Maybe some of us have a slightly different harware in our X1 that triggers this freeze, but only in WM 6.5?
So far the WM6.1 + Manila 2.1 is working fine, lots of customizations made by me after flashing too. G-Alarm managed to wake me up OK.
Darkchaser said:
Just to share. Some chefs have mentioned this and I myself can attest to it.
I was using 2 ROMs that were free of the problem more than 24 hours , Touch X 10.8.2 and Valkyrie 4.5.502. And both times I managed to cause the "standby of death" by using 2 different alarm programs, G-Alarm and Klaxon. Once I activated alarms using these programs, within 3-4 hours my phone froze.
That's my experience anyways. Some ROMs by default will die without doing anything, so I'm not sure about those. But if you have a stable ROM and want to avoid it, I think it should be fine.
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Well you can count Valkyrie 4.5.502 out because i installed it yesterday and this morning after my alarm went off about 20mins later the phone frooze. I have been experiencing this for the past months and i REALLY hate this phone now. I have tried all sorts of tricks from reseting the phone around 9pm to just not running ANY program and it still freezes. I have tried all sorts of roms with the exception of Touch X 10.8.2. I guess i might as well give that one a try. I will keep an eye on this thread for a solution.
On an older Valkyrie TR build I was getting the problem and I fixed it by doing a soft reset with the SD card out, waiting for everything to load up and run nicely, then inserting the card again. Went to the music tab and waited for it to load all my tunes and the same with photos. Didn't have the problem after that, but I was only on that ROM for about a week.
I thought it may be related to usb port driver issues in WM6.5, but it could also be the audiomanager in manila or some conflict between a WM6.5 process and a manila process.
Anyway, will be trying 4.4.81TR Valkyrie and see...
But the biggest question is why some (most) people never have this problem...
Never seen this problem on WCX 22001 Pure wm6.5 rom and I'm using it for about one month. I've installed many apps and my X1 works great with battery about 2-3 days using WIFI, BT, and all other stuff. No Manila - no problem in this case. It's an older build of WM6.5 but with newer builds WCX Rom users didn't complain about freezing problem or alarm issues.
So maybe it's Manila?
Today I wanted to flash Itjes newest ROM but I'll wait for solution couse my phone should wake me up today
Can program your phone Lockscreen has frozen the rechargeable device. Best before charging you restart your phone and not run any programs.
yes i get this problem too.. every morning my phone is off.... so it really needs to be looked into.. it seems to occur from more recent builds of 6.5..
i was previously using a wild child pure rom from about 3-4 months ago (6.5 early build)... this issue never happened...
then recently i upgraded to the V11 Unoff series and now it occurs.. and is obviously occuring for a lot of people with other recent builds of 6.5...
if the solution is ever found please let us know....
I might be completely off here... but I used to have this problem often, in addition to having slide to unlock malfunction on me, even with the newer rom builds.
When I unchecked the boxes that said display owner information/notes when device is turned on, both problems were gone - it might just be a coincidence though and I've only been testing it for 2 days.
Hey guys,
I've been having the same problem, only that this are the situations in which I faced the issue with my X1i (and managed to replicate the freeze):
-Receiving SMS while charging (no pc conection)
-Charging while alarm goes off (again no pc)
-When task or appointment announcement sets itself to sleep (i.e: you ignore it) while charging. (go figure, no PC)
-When after ignoring (not hitting dismissed button) task or appointment screen shuts off (Running on battery)
I've also gotten the problem in other situations, but i couldn't replicate them. The only Thing I did notice was that there is a growth in the rate this happens over a span of 3 days after flashing/hard reseting. In my case, it was one increment per day (ie: 1st day, happened once; 2nd day, twice; 3times the 3rd day.. then, i reseted or replicated, so my statistics went down the pipe )
Other thoughs: what radio are you guys using? maybe we can narrow it down to a radio as well. Thus far I've seen it narrowed it down to Manila 2.5, but then others do not have this (and then there me, with Manila 2.1, that has it ). I changed my radio y-day and hasn't happened yet (xing fingers though...) wil try to replicate tomorrow after my alarm wakes me up
My info:
X1i Black (came with R3 generic UK ROM, Radio. 1.14...)
Issues happened with: Radio 1.10.25.18 (Installed with NRG's ROM vOCT 28)
ROM info: (see signature..)
Manila: v2.1.191...
Current radio: 1.14...
Carrier: AT&T US
I tried to contribute as much info I could get about this issue... hope we can get it solved.
I'll try to flash again a WM6.5 version to see what radio will be installed. This week I needed my phone WORKING , so I used a 6.1 ROM.
I didn't find a pattern for my freezes, but I think it mostly happened while charging from the outlet, or in the morning before the alarm went off (very bad thing to happen), or after I snoozed the alarm (again, very bad).
I read somewhere that it's useful to format your SD card before flashing. I don't see how this could help, but I'll try to flash via USB or from another newly-formated SD card. I always flashed with kovsimg.nbh on the SD root and I only formatted it when I got the phone, 9 months ago...
Also, some say it's good to flash first an original ROM, hard reset, then install the custom ROM again. I tried that, even stock-SPL and hard-SPL again, but didn't seem to work. Maybe I had 48 hours without freeze, but then it started again.
@8SE8 - I never had those options checked, so we can rule that out I guess.
I have been reading about this issue here and in another forum - mainly
because I had seen it only one single time. It actually occured when I was
loading the device during the night. I do not remember which ROM it was
exactly, except that it was an itje ROM with Manila 2.5.
Then, I went back to Manila 2.1 and WinMo 6.1, Touch_X 10.X.X. Must say,
that is still my fallback ROM, it feels extremely fast, it is stable, memory
usage is low - what else to wish?
Next, I went to the multilanguage Rhodium based Manila 2.1 and WinMo 6.5
from itje in my own language. After installing FM Tuner, a correct dialer and
some tweaks, it is also very fast and stable, memory usage at 50%. No more
soft resets since almost a week now, no "stand-by of death".
The difference to others is maybe: I do not flash using the SD card, always
with the USB connection. Is this provoking the difference? I cannot imagine,
but this is what I can contribute here.

Phone Freezing and Hard Resetting

hello mate,
I updated my TYTN II from WM 6.1 to 6.5. It was working fine for couple of hours until i get the first freeze. I did a soft reset and i was shocked when the phone come up. its a hard reset. now from last 5 hours it happens 3 - 4 times. and i have no option to did a soft reset but the phone is doing hard reset by itself.
Do u have any solution? i hope yes. I used Shifu and Gangster wm6.5
i tried 1.70. and 1.71 Radio and 3.34 HardSPL but no luck
Your prompt action is highly appreciated.
Many Thanks,
Naaz

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