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i have been researching this for a couple days; has anyone succesfully configured debian on 1.6 donut?from what ive gathered there are known issues with debian and 1.6. i keep going in circles trying to figure this out. i have used this site(and many others) in my research:
http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/22/install-linux-on-your-g1/
i keep getting lots of errors about line not found and debian goes into reboot cycles
TY
Check the link in my signature, I have a method that works well with 1.6.
that seems like a nice tutorial except i was wondering if you could make it so i could have a gui with ur method (i currently have an image on fat32 part) ?
lxde would be good if it worked smooth. also u mentiond apps like firefox and aircrack will work... have u tested or are u jus geussing, also is there anyway that you couldd modify amonra's recovery so that there would be 1 more option that you could nativly boot into debian like in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&page=29
cloverdale said:
Check the link in my signature, I have a method that works well with 1.6.
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where are the attached scripts? am i overlooking them? TY
olvap377 said:
that seems like a nice tutorial except i was wondering if you could make it so i could have a gui with ur method (i currently have an image on fat32 part) ?
lxde would be good if it worked smooth. also u mentiond apps like firefox and aircrack will work... have u tested or are u jus geussing, also is there anyway that you couldd modify amonra's recovery so that there would be 1 more option that you could nativly boot into debian like in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&page=29
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You can setup a GUI yourself if that is what you want, but I personally like terminal based Linux, so I see no need to spend countless hours doing such. As far as the other apps working, of course they will work, they run on debian. The issue is whether you want to give up valuable resources to try and run firefox on a G1 (it is something you would do just to say you did it, not for practicality). Aircrack will run, but you still need to work on the kernel to have it actually crack (people are working on it).
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where are the attached scripts? am i overlooking them? TY
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You probably need to register with the particular forum it is posted on.
So as a little side project I've tasked myself to review the security features and potential risks to data being stored within the Android OS and I've been using my Captivate as the test rat. Since pretty much everyone with an android device uses Gmail I wanted to focus first on the Gmail app. I know that information for many apps are stored under the /data/data/[app package]/databases directory structure in an SQL Lite *.db file.
That being said, I wanted to inquire with everyone here about being able to access the /data/data directory and all info there-in WITHOUT having to root the device. Im sure there might be some on that but Im just trying to be thorough in my review...any potential thief would obviously just instantly root and delve right in afterward the data but what other potential ways are there to get into that directory, if there are any?
I've been playing around with ADB and from what I can tell that is not a viable path. The only thing I could think of is somehow tricking the ADB daemon into thinking my phone is a development phone which would allow ADB to run as root but haven't found that to be possible.
So in any case, just looking for insight from the more experienced folk as to other avenues of attack against the user data beyond the obvious root method. Thanks very much for any help!
You can run adb shell as root if the phone is in clockworkmod recovery - but if someones going to the trouble of dropping a clockwork update.zip could just as well and as easy drop a root update.zip on the phone.
If someone physically gets a hold of your phone anything tied the google account/s on the phone would have to be considered compromised - as these phones are so easy to root anyway.
I just thought of another thing, if someone were to get a hold of your phone and have access to a computer with odin they could pretty quickly do a system dump (grab every file off your phone) return where you could find it without you ever knowing they got it.
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I just thought of another thing, if someone were to get a hold of your phone and have access to a computer with odin they could pretty quickly do a system dump (grab every file off your phone) return where you could find it without you ever knowing they got it.
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you dont need odin. adb will do it too
Pirateghost said:
you dont need odin. adb will do it too
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Can you do a system dump in adb without root?
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Can you do a system dump in adb without root?
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yes
adb pull /system
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adb pull /system
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Learn new things every day.
I like this phone allot, but there just is no way to secure it against someone physically gets their hands on it.
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Yep thats actually very easy to do however it doesn't contain any critical private data really. I looked through the directories and while there is some interesting information that can be gleaned (e.g. the generic APN configs and other hardware information) there isn't any actual private stuff such as Gmail data, authentication info for apps, etc. That is all contained within the /data/data directory from what I understand.
You CAN get a list of all the packages on the device through /SYSTEM as well as all the APK's of the installed apps but otherwise not much I've found to be worrisome.
I'll have to check out Odin and see what that can offer from a non-root perspective.
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But, that is why you don't leave USB debug on all the time - and why there is a warning when you do turn it on.
PIN or pattern lock keep prying eyes out, and protect your phone from ADB, but not if you leave USB debug on. But, like other hardware, if someone has physical access and enough time, they can get to your data.
So now that Im rooted, is there an easy way to write up a script to copy all files in the /data/data and whatever other folders I decide onto my PC?
Ok so here's this application that I made in Automator for myself and I figured that if anyone wants it, it's here. This is a Mac OS X only app. What does this app do? It wipes the data and dalvik cache on the phone twice. It is quite quick and easy. What will you need to do to your Mac before running this application? You simply need to add adb to the .bash_profile path settings. (This means that from anywhere in terminal, you can type adb and run adb.) Then just put your phone into recovery mode and run this app. This is an alpha build as I have not tried it on my own phone yet. However it should work as I've coded it and it has NO potential to brick the phone
Download Here!
EDIT: Currently the program is not working, I will make a new one and upload ASAP.
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Ok so here's this application that I made in Automator for myself and I figured that if anyone wants it, it's here. This is a Mac OS X only app. What does this app do? It wipes the data and dalvik cache on the phone twice. It is quite quick and easy. What will you need to do to your Mac before running this application? You simply need to add adb to the .bash_profile path settings. (This means that from anywhere in terminal, you can type adb and run adb.) Then just put your phone into recovery mode and run this app. This is an alpha build as I have not tried it on my own phone yet. However it should work as I've coded it and it has NO potential to brick the phone
Download Here!
EDIT: Currently the program is not working, I will make a new one and upload ASAP.
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Nice job CP... with a little editing, could I get this to work on Linux?
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Nice job CP... with a little editing, could I get this to work on Linux?
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Hmmm, thats a good question. (I'm just hopping in with what I know, so OP feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am.)
From what I know, Automator is basically a workflow creation/utilization program. Do most Linux distros come packaged with anything like that, or does one exist?
This might be an alternative:
"GNU Xnee is a suite of programs that can record, replay and distribute user actions under the X11 environment. Think of it as a robot that can imitate the job you just did."
http://askubuntu.com/questions/343/alternative-for-mac-os-x-automator
Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Atrix-specific and general issues. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.
Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).
Before you report an issue:
Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.
Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:
If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If mmcblk1p12 isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
Is the webtop configurator application showing, but not running successfully? If so, plug your device into your dock and run a terminal (either locally or adbWireless + adb shell) and run the following:
su
/usr/bin/sudo -H -u adas bash
export DISPLAY=:0
python /usr/local/bin/webtop-configurator.pyc
I'll need whatever output shows up.
great! thanks for making it so much easier.
haven't actually tested it b/c i sort of figured out how to do that a few days back, but still need to manually install it.
maybe i'll test your app next time i decide to reinstall my ubuntu.
btw, which script are you using to mount /osh? for me only /data/logging.sh works (it's safer anyway).
I suspect that what I'm doing isn't rocket science by any means. But, what I do seem to be pretty good at is packaging semi-complex things up for people into a manageable form with a fairly solid level of reliability. You couldn't imagine the things I'm happy that I managed to accomplish with this app, because they're so... quirky.
Anyways, I've been using /system/bin/mountosh since the beginning. I need to tweak the copy I'm using right now, since my goals have expanded beyond what I initially wrote it for. On the other hand, it'll mean that I can separate out my "personal" Ubuntu versus my "debugging" one, and that should be quite helpful.
These advances with linux customization in webtop have turned me on to Ubuntu in general. I just dumped windows xp on my desktop server and now run ubuntu super OS and studio. This takes a phone to a new level. Thanks OP!
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
Oh, and...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
-djazin
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
Regardless, your work is the only reason why I'm buying myself a lapdock and replacing my netbook, so thank you very much for this hobby of yours =)
Looks great, thanks for the hard work
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
n1ckr0th said:
i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?
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Possibly; I'm not sure. At least one person I talked to said that it should be possible via command line utilities, but I'm not the best person to ask about this particular issue, not having convenient access to Mac OS X...
krkeegan said:
I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.
I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.
A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?
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Heh. I've actually been planning this for over a month, after some pointers from eval- - I had a rough version running, but I wanted to make something that users would be able to take advantage of easily. Oddly, it's the UI that's been the difficult part - actually having it do stuff is (relatively speaking) the easy part.
1. Yes, this is moving the Motorola environment to the SD card. Nothing special otherwise.
2. Not really - nothing's changed on that front. I'll be tweaking some of the package states on the filesystem to make upgrades less liable to completely blow up, but if we want to keep some of the niceties that Motorola added, I'll need to port those changes forward (which I have no particular problem with doing).
3. We're stuck with Jaunty for now. Unfortunately, it looks like information I had previously in regards to a version upgrade for Ubuntu don't apply to our phone, so I'll likely start working on an upgrade to 10.04 LTS after this stabilizes.
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I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?
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Viamonte said:
Yes I believe the most important questions here are:
1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...
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This is the fun part. Since this is an Android application and not a script, this part should work with any version. I'm currently running 4.1.57 on my phone (I never did get around to upgrading), but once I verify it works there properly, I'll be upgrading to 4.1.83 and testing there as well. There are no issues that I'm aware of that would prevent this first application from running, and the second application (the Python/Gtk one I have planned) should be able to handle any differences between the various ROMs out there.
And the Ubuntu version upgrade question, I answered just above this.
everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
Epic Sogarth
The ui looks nice though can't wait to test it on 1.8.3 been on 1.5.7 with v2 awhile now updated to 1.8.3 installed the app played with the setting everything looks sweet cant wait for the go ahead XD wouldnt mind testing anything.
-Djazin
dicksteele said:
Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.
Looks like no sleep week.
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10
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That's good to know. Luckily they were out of 10's, and I got a four. Already formatted 16 GB fat32 the rest ext3.
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Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?
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Now that I really look at it mine is also. So I'm guessing that's due to 1.83, or GladiAtrix. That's what I'm using.
I'll post a screenshot if you need.
I could go to stock 1.57 upgrade to 1.83 but not until tomorrow night
Thanks for the answers, Sogarth. And congratulations on your gift man, because your sum of intelligence and dedication sure is one. I'll be installing this on my Atrix as soon as it has been stabilized (and, well, actually made useful xD)
I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.
All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......
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Unchecking the Partition ext. storage option "ungreyed" the Locations options and Advanced options. Didn't think about doing that since that was one of the goals of this app.
Since I manually partitioned already I should have thought of that.
Well to get a long story short,im not a complete noob in the rooting,optimising,flashing bussiness.
So dont tell me flash this kernel or this stock rom,or this or that.
The problem after hours of searching is a bad app.
I have bought over 500 apps cause i want to support the community.
So,when i restore all my apps,when the phone starts,after the home screen loads AT THE MOMENT WHERE IN TOUCHWIZ OR ADW OR WHATEVER THE APPS ARE FINALLY LOADED
REBOOT,hot reboot most of the times...
I tried everything...startup managers to block everything and i mean everything...
Rescan media root app to stop scanning of sdcard...
Everything,no matter if it froyo,ginger,ics,stock,rooted or WHATEVER.
Of course i can install one app at a time an reboot,to see what happens but that will take ages and also maybe one app 'hit' with another...
So help me find the bad app...
I am no noob but i am no pro either...
So how do i take a logcat? Will that help either way?
Do i have to use adb?
help....
You are kidding right? You have 500 apps installed at the same time? Why on Earth? I think you are lucky the phone even tries to boot...
On to your problem at hand - no one here will be able to help you with the info you provided.
I thought their was like a 30 app limit to android?
Adb is your best bet.
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kylew1212 said:
I thought their was like a 30 app limit to android?
Adb is your best bet.
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Yes,i have so many apps and i want to find which app 'collides' with another or at least which app causes problems.
I used logcat with semaphore kernel and i have taken out some txt files just before the soft reboots...
How adb will help me.
I will find how to install adb but what then?
What command should i use?
And the phoen will be open?In recovery? What?
Please help....
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Yes,i have so many apps and i want to find which app 'collides' with another or at least which app causes problems.
I used logcat with semaphore kernel and i have taken out some txt files just before the soft reboots...
How adb will help me.
I will find how to install adb but what then?
What command should i use?
And the phoen will be open?In recovery? What?
Please help....
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Well you certainly need apps 2 SD ... but you probably already have that.
To use adb, download it firstly. Its in the Google developer tools.
Once downloaded open terminal. Alt+ctrl+t. Use CD to change to the directory that contains adb in the platform tools. Once your in the folder containing adb, type "./adb logcat" without the quotes. This is for a computer running Ubuntu Linux also
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Well you certainly need apps 2 SD ... but you probably already have that.
To use adb, download it firstly. Its in the Google developer tools.
Once downloaded open terminal. Alt+ctrl+t. Use CD to change to the directory that contains adb in the platform tools. Once your in the folder containing adb, type "./adb logcat" without the quotes. This is for a computer running Ubuntu Linux also
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thanx for the response.
i have set adb succesfully and i see the logcat on my cmd window running like hell most of the time.
i read that you can use some commands like -w -e etc to narrow the results to important messages? is that correct?
if yes,how you can do that? i mean the full command adb logcat....etc
thanx in advance
karapoutsoglou said:
thanx for the response.
i have set adb succesfully and i see the logcat on my cmd window running like hell most of the time.
i read that you can use some commands like -w -e etc to narrow the results to important messages? is that correct?
if yes,how you can do that? i mean the full command adb logcat....etc
thanx in advance
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Unfortunately I have very little adb experience...
Maybe try something like the same command you used
"./adb logcat"
I guess going by what you're saying you could try something like
"./adb logcat -w" try that then maybe replace the w with e..
Keep in mind these are just guesses because I do not know for certain
I will research as soon as possible and write a quide for it as this can benefit lots of people
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I will research as soon as possible and write a quide for it as this can benefit lots of people
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thanx.
i had the same in mind.maybe something good can come out of this
Another way would be using ddms - connect your phone in debug and run ddms (it's included in the SDK Tools). It provides an interface to browse your device's logs and filter them according to your needs. I think you'll be able to locate that one which explains why your phone is crashing.
On second thought however - is it possible for you to turn the debug on?
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Another way would be using ddms - connect your phone in debug and run ddms (it's included in the SDK Tools). It provides an interface to browse your device's logs and filter them according to your needs. I think you'll be able to locate that one which explains why your phone is crashing.
On second thought however - is it possible for you to turn the debug on?
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thank you!
great idea,i will test it
yes,i can turn the debug on,because the phone crashes just when all the apps are loaded in the drawer.
it must be a bad app because i used to have many apps since froyo times and no problem.
like 500...and the phone was fast.
i really want to find that bad app and kill it
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wow,ddms is a dream! thats what i was looking for!!!
thank you
Sorry for the double post but i thought it needed a single post.
Well,the problem is fixed with the help of you guys!!!
I was getting a hell lot of warnings about watchdog_n and stuff.
I googled it and appeared that a whole bunch of people had the same problem especially with nexus s etc.
They said it was due to some crappy app wanting to auto-sync.
So i did a wipe cache,wipe dalvik cache,fix fc and then when the phone rebooted i disabled the auto-sync.
Guess what,no more loops and soft reboots!!!
I still dont know what app is causing all the problems and propably never will,if you thing that the same apps in my tablet dont cause a thing,but after the auto-sync off the problem is gone.
Good thing though i dont need auto-sync cause its not the best solution...