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Urgent help about the battery

I posted this question before, but no one answered. But this problem drives me crazy!
My Kaiser turned off when the battery was running out.
When I connect wall power to charge it, the orange LED indicates it was charging, but just few seconds later it automatically boot, and the orange LED was off.
The problem is, it can't boot into OS due to low battery(it only shows "Smart Mobility", but can't even enter bootloader mode) And only if it boots into OS successfully, it can be charged.
Anyone met this problem on any other devices before?
How can I stop auto boot when charging?
What can I do?

That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.

dscline said:
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
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Thanks
I use the ROM from this forum
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship
What is yours?

I'm just using the stock AT&T Tilt rom.

Here's the fix!
Yes, I've had the same problem a few times on my Vario (Wizard). Very annoying.
Here's what to do:
- Take a mini-usb cable (the one you use for sync and charging from a PC) and cut off the mini-USB connector
- Strip the wires
- Take the battery out of your TyTN
- Carefully connect the ground wire (black) with the ground connector (-) on the battery. Fix it with clear tape.
- Now do the same with the (+) (red wire).
- Attach the USB cable to a running PC and let the battery charge for about an hour. After that, put it back in your phone, you'll be able to boot it up and charge it the regular way.
Yes, it costs you a cable, but it solves the problem.

dscline said:
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
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I think you misunderstood. The problem is that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded completely. So if you really run your battery out completely and there is not enough power in your battery to boot up the phone (read: it turns off again before the boot has completed) you won't be able to charge it the regular way. SOMETIMES a heavier charger (2A) does seem to be able to charge the battery even with the OS shut down, but most of the times it won't work anymore... see below for fix.

SteRo said:
I think you misunderstood. The problem is that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded completely.
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That's not how I read the original post:
When I connect wall power to charge it, the orange LED indicates it was charging, but just few seconds later it automatically boot, and the orange LED was off.
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Based on this, it sounds like it is starting to charge without the phone booted (orange LED on), but for some reason it then automatically boots up, then crashes because there's not enough power(??)
But if the problem IS that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded, that is also not how my phone operates. In fact, that even goes against the manual, which tells you to plug the phone in (without turning on the phone) and let it charge fully for the initial charge before turning on the phone and allowing it to boot.
Sorry if I misunderstand, but neither way is how my phone operates... it can charge without the OS loaded, and the phone does not automatically boot once power is applied.

Not sure I fully understand what's going on here but, I am wondering if the power on/off button is stuck in (i.e the micro-switch is clicked in and not releasing). I cannot think of any other reason the device would turn on when connecting the charger if the device is powered completely off. ( Except perhaps shorted connections in the Usb port)
Mike

To SteRo:
Thx a lot for the solution, I tried, but still doesn't work.(I charge it more than 2 hours, and still can't boot into OS)
To mikechannon:
yes, it happened. :-( the power on/off button is NOT stucked. And the device is powered off completely.
To All:
Thx for your reply. What I mean is almost what dscline said:
It starts to charge without the phone booted (orange LED on), but for some reason it then automatically boots up(around 15 sec after I plugin power), meanwhile orange LED is off. But it can't load into OS, just re-boot again and again because there's no enough battery. That makes it's impossible to charge, 'coz it's only charged when the OS has loaded completely.
Anyway, I called customer service to ask them replace the battery. I may try to use different ROM and see what will happen. I'll post the result here.

It's also possible that it has nothing to do with the battery or charging at all. I just checked mine, and the charging indicator is lit with the unit off, but it does go out for a bit during the boot processes, then comes back on again. So what you're seeing with the charging light is normal. It may simply be that there's something corrupted, or some other failure with the device, that is causing it to not boot properly, and get stuck in a reboot loop. If so, it will probably do the same thing with a completely charged battery. You may have just been assuming that it was related to a low charge.

That's what I'm worry about,, Coz I can't boot it by SteRo's solution.

okay... they say trouble comes in three's...
Yesterday I flew to Asia, 20-hours with a full charge. No suprises during the trip. Checked email from Narita during the layover, no prob. But after I arrived in Taipei I received the low battery warning. Plugged in my usb-to-usb (notebook to kaiser) cable and "no charge light"!
This morning I plugged it into a ac battery charger and waited for >10 minutes, still no charge light.
Now, at the risk of a battery, I'm attempting to charge the battery removed from the kaiser using the previous mentioned method. In an hour I'll test it.
This afternoon I'll pick up a new battery charger and spare battery.
In 14-months with my trusty TyTN (cht9000) I never once had a problem like this... I'm a little bummed right now...
[update]
okay -- battery is okay and can be charged externally (using the two wire method or an external battery charger). BUT... the device still won't take a charge using either a direct AC adapter or a USB cord. This was also retested after performing a hard-reset. Not a good sign folks.
The charger works (connected to a Trinity), so it's not the problem. They battery works (charged to 45% after 45-minutes connected to an external battery charger). The HTC OS after a clean hard-reset used to work but now doesn't, so it's unlikely it's software related.
I've made no other modifications to the bootloader or SSPL... everything is original stock. Wish I had my TyTN with me right about now...

Sounds like something I had on my previous TyTN:
The power connector was a bit flaky on my charger at home. So when I'd hookup the powerlead it would charge to 10 secs or so and then no longer charge. I had to put some pressure on the connector to have it continue to charge. So I put a ballpen on the powerlead, just under the phone, when charging.
It's a long shot - hope of use. When you've connected the phone to power, and the orange light goes off, try wiggeling the connector a bit - see if that helps.
Hope of use.

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OK,
I've got excactly the same problems... I dont want to make you illusions, but you cant solve it and you need to send it back for repair. Your usb connecter on your tytn is broken...
first i will tell my story...
My tytn did excactly the same, shows the led, powers on automatically (normally it don't do that, so it;s not a rom issue) and then powered down in the smart mobility screen. I tried 4 chargers, and 2 battery's. with a full battery it will power on and load windows, but unable to charge. with the empty battery it will power down in the smart mobility screen. soft reset, hard reset, it won't work.
You can check if it's the same problem, by attaching it to your usb on your computer and call up the bootscreen by pressing the camera button and stick your stylus in the soft reset hole. If it comes up with serial instead of usb, then your device usb connector is broken.
BUT, you can charge your battery in a very strange way i figured out. since i am on a buisness trip i need my phone and don't send it back!!!!!
ok, this is what you have to do, plug in the powercable, call the hard reset screen BUT DON'T APPLY!!!! you will notice it will not power down, so just leave it on this screen for a night with the cable connected. you don't see the charging light, but actually it is charging. for me this temporarely solution works fine... but when i'm back in about seven weeks i send it in for repair.
Hope this will help you!

Swiftgs:
Many thanks for your insight -- you are correct, in bootloader mode the Serial shows instead of USB. I just purchased a spare battery (1100mAh, made in Taiwan) and battery charger for US$17. It'll get me through my business trip, but this is disappointing. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I used a TyTN for 14-months (July 2006 to Sept 2007) as my primary phone, recharging it daily via the USB connector and on a desk charger in my office. I can only conclude that if the USB is physically damaged (not evident visually), then it is not as robust as the USB port used in the original TyTN. The strangest part of all is it worked perfectly until the battery level fell below 10%...
FWIW: I purchased the phone through R&D Marketing. Ron Webber quickly responded to my note and gave me a contact at HTC America. I'll follow-up
after I return and report my experience.
Cheers

well, thanks for all of your replies/infomation.
I tried evey possible methods mentioned above, unfortunatelly none of them works :-(
and the most depressed thing is I filnally get a new battery, but it still doesn't work!
So I sent it back to repair, cross figure...

It works
I would like to thanx 2 SteRo for his advice. I am using Qtek 9000 and had the same problem. Battery was empty, and I tried many times to turn on my PPC, but without success. All the time when red light appeared after 10-15 sec display become black and tried to restart from boot again, and it's happened many times. Finally I thought that I just can trow my Qtek, but seeing your recommendation decided to try. I took USB cable cut it and strap the wires. Connecting red on (+) and black on (-) after 1 hour charging I was able to start my PPC, to recharge battery by 100% and it is working now OK. I must check duration of the battery tomorrow, because reason why I discharged battery was automatic turn off of my PPC when it was on around 45-50% battery capacity. Tomorrow I will check how it's working when I recharge battery again.
Dear SteRo you are the king.

Think my X1a is bricked... anyone had this before?

I was just listening to music from TF3D and all of a sudden the screen turned off, music stopped, and the power button at the top was glowing red for a few seconds. I tried turning it back on, removing and reinserting the battery, but nothing happens. I can't turn it back on at all!
One thing I do notice is if I remove the battery, and plug in the usb cable connected to my computer, the power button glows red, but I can't turn it on. If I insert the battery, and then plug in the USB, the button doesn't glow red.
How would I recover the phone?

dinan said:
I was just listening to music from TF3D and all of a sudden the screen turned off, music stopped, and the power button at the top was glowing red for a few seconds. I tried turning it back on, removing and reinserting the battery, but nothing happens. I can't turn it back on at all!
One thing I do notice is if I remove the battery, and plug in the usb cable connected to my computer, the power button glows red, but I can't turn it on. If I insert the battery, and then plug in the USB, the button doesn't glow red.
How would I recover the phone?
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Try charging your phone for about an hour. The red light under the power button happened to me when i had used up all of my juice.

yeah i had the same problem and i had been very frightened of it...
just charge it...

Ah ok. Weird! Because when I was listening to music I had just taken it off the charger and it said 90% battery! And I had only listened to one song. I guess the battery meter was telling me false info =(
Thanks all

well maybe your battery was still kinda "new" so it wasnt showing correct data

a red light?
cool ... is this a phone or a light-generator?
it was the first pda with making so much noises by optical... but is good ...

Can anyone explain me how is the red light under the power button? The light doesn't come out from the illumination light, does it? I wanna see how is the light. Screenshot will be better.

It doesnt come out form the illumination light. It's by the power button. Usually it blinks when your battery is at 5% or close to total drained.

It´s a light that´s gives you battery error. I spent 2 days trying to figure it out because my phone wasn´t turning on and the red light was continuissly showin off, at the end it was because of a cheap wall charger (5V and 500ma, when SE uses 5v with 700ma) I just charged with SE wall charger and everything went back to normal.
In your case maybe one of you battery cells broke and that´s why it´s was at 90% giving you that hateful red light.
Here is a post conserning your problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452402&highlight=red+light,+button

i think the battery is low quality fake..

i found out that the fasted way to charge your empty battery is:
1. remove your battery
2. insert you mini usb charger (NOT usb>mini-usb from your computer)
3. watch if the red light is on. (underneath your power button)
4. insert your battery.
5. after 5/10 minutes your X1 is working again.
you can do it by just plugging your charger on when it's empty but then it can take up to 2 days (YES, i have experienced it) to make your X1 working again.

another way is, just plug the wall charger to your x1 then leave it there. the x1 do not wake up that quick because the charge voltage goes up grandually/slowly for protect your battery and phone after the battery voltage same as charge voltage, then it can be charge normally*

Thank god that I read this topic yesterday. Otherwise I would have pissed my trousers because I had the same light today.

[Q] Phone Dead...

My battery totally died last night and powered off when it ran out of battery however now I cannot charge the phone at all. It was on charge all night and no charging light comes on. Ive tried with the mains cable, usb cable to pc and in car charger.
Does anyone have any suggestions to get it working again?
Thanks

Did it just randomly die? Is there anything you did beforehand that could influence it, like dropping it (in water)?
I'm not entirely sure what it could be, but if you could provide this info, others mide have an easier time troubleshooting.

dr9722 said:
My battery totally died last night and powered off when it ran out of battery however now I cannot charge the phone at all. It was on charge all night and no charging light comes on. Ive tried with the mains cable, usb cable to pc and in car charger.
Does anyone have any suggestions to get it working again?
Thanks
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HI
greetings,
connect the phone to charger and press and hold the power button for 30 sec and see if the led is flashing
if not then connect to pc and try to boot into bootloader menu and tell what happens. weather it boots, does it just vibrates or does the led flash

[Q] HTC One Will Not Charge

My HTC One had a full discharge a couple days ago.When I got home to plug it in, it showed a blinking red LED and the battery charging animation, but didn't charge at all over a full day. I tried rebooting while still plugged in to the wall charger, which took me to the OS. From the OS I could do anything -- text,call, use Chrome, etc -- but the battery symbol had an exclamation point and the LED was still blinking red. As soon as I took it off the charger, it turned off.
I have tried Power + Volume Down, Power + Volume Up + Volume Down, and the bright light methods.
I was able to restore the phone to a previous backup from TWRP while plugged in, but the problem continues.
Any suggestions?

yelmelnobrainer said:
My HTC One had a full discharge a couple days ago.When I got home to plug it in, it showed a blinking red LED and the battery charging animation, but didn't charge at all over a full day. I tried rebooting while still plugged in to the wall charger, which took me to the OS. From the OS I could do anything -- text,call, use Chrome, etc -- but the battery symbol had an exclamation point and the LED was still blinking red. As soon as I took it off the charger, it turned off.
I have tried Power + Volume Down, Power + Volume Up + Volume Down, and the bright light methods.
I was able to restore the phone to a previous backup from TWRP while plugged in, but the problem continues.
Any suggestions?
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Try connecting the phone to your computer's USB port. If it charges there, then your charger is bad. You can check to see if is charging by going to Settings -> Power on the phone. If you are using the cable from your charger to connect to the computer and it isn't charging then try another cable. It that works, it may just be the cable that is bad and the rest of the charger is OK.

majmoz said:
Try connecting the phone to your computer's USB port. If it charges there, then your charger is bad. You can check to see if is charging by going to Settings -> Power on the phone. If you are using the cable from your charger to connect to the computer and it isn't charging then try another cable. It that works, it may just be the cable that is bad and the rest of the charger is OK.
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I have tried multiple cables, including the HTC stock cable and charger. When I plugged the phone into my computer, it did not show the blinking red LED and did not power up. The phone was basically unresponsive. I assume this is from lower amperage from the laptop's USB ports, but could be wrong. The laptop was also plugged into its charger at the time.

yelmelnobrainer said:
I have tried multiple cables, including the HTC stock cable and charger. When I plugged the phone into my computer, it did not show the blinking red LED and did not power up. The phone was basically unresponsive. I assume this is from lower amperage from the laptop's USB ports, but could be wrong. The laptop was also plugged into its charger at the time.
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The battery is severely discharged. Since, it will not charge via the charger or the computer it looks to be a phone hardware issue. You probably need to take it back to your dealer for servicing. Before you do that, give the connection to the laptop one more go except leave it on the for about an hour or two undisturbed. When batteries are severely discharged, it takes a while for it to recharge enough to give any indication of life.

I ended up sending the phone to HTC. I had modified the kernel and OS, but figured it was worth a shot since the phone was dead and it was still under warranty.
They told me it was out of warranty due to liquid damage. I have no idea how it may have been liquid damaged, but oh well. I wasn't going to pay the $200 to replace the motherboard so I asked them to send the phone back to me.
I received the phone last week and plugged it in. I wanted to make sure I could repeat the symptoms and that HTC hadn't further messed up the phone before I took it to a local repair shop. But what happened when I plugged it in? It came to life and began charging as normal. Either a generous HTC tech fixed my phone for free or the phone needed some interior jostling to get circuits back to normal.
Whatever the situation, my phone has been good as new with all the data just as I left it. For a full week, I've had no problems charging.

[Q] Battery 100%, after unplugging phone can't start

Hi, first of all sorry for my bad english.
I just bought Motorola Moto G 2 and i tried to start it - white LED lights and the device isn't starting, i thought that its normal that the battery isnt charged because its new phone. I plugged charger and it showed me that battery is about 50% charged, and when the charger is plugged phone starts and works normally, when i unplug the charger phone still works (havent checked for longer time but didnt immediatly turn off, just worked), but when i turn phone off and try to turn it on again LED lights like its discharged.
I tried charging to 100% and unplugging, doing reset but still the same. Only works when starting with charger plugged. What should I do? Is there any solution?

PaulPixelman said:
i tried to start it - white LED lights and the device isn't starting
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If the led is lighting up for just a moment, you didn't hold the power button long enough. If device is not starting up even after pressing power 5-10 sec.... customer service