Data connections... I'm lost! (Faq/wiki already read) - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hi there, i have a new Diamond ("Victor", from Movistar Spain) and i've reading a lot in the forum in order to set up the device (i had a tytnII before).
I've a lot of questions regarding GPRS/3G/HDSPA connections..
A) Start-Configuration-Phone-Network
I can choose between GSM/WCDMA/AUTO. Does this apply over voice or over data and voice connections?
If i choose GSM then "G" icon (from 3g, i guess) appears on upper bar. If i choose "Auto" then i get "H" icon. So...
Can i choose GSM (in order to save battery) while my data connections can be HDSPA?
B) Can the Diamond update de email accounts via GPRS/3G/HDSPA in suspend mode?
I mean, i often leave the device on suspend mode in order to save battery, and i configured emails in order to update each 10 minutes.
Will the device update the emails in suspend mode or only when it wakes up?
Thaaaaaanks!

Hello,
A)
GSM only active the base data (G = GPRS, E = EDGE)
WCDMA active both GSM&3G (3G, H = HSDPA or 3G+)
Auto allows the phone to choose one of the mode.
Those settings only affect DATA, no call/SMS and whatever, because it uses only GSM.
And yes you can choose only GSM if you want to save battery, it will just affect the speed of your data connection ( G< E< 3G< H)
B) I can't update my mail with my provider, but the diamond can use the data connection in suspend mode, so it will works i know, why do you not test yourself ?

Thanks for your reply.
I didnt test by myself because i hadn't a flat fee for data.
Now i have a flat fee...and a GREAT issue....
I configured my email account on Pda and i can send and receive mails...but only via WIFI, not via HDSPA/3G. When i do "Send and receive" it fails and says "Sync error".
However, with the same setup, i can use Opera, Google Maps, or update the weather.
Why does outlook does not connect?
UPDATE: I have changed a setting on Connections and now it works but i dont know why..... and i dont know if i am loosing something else with this.
Connection - Proxy - Disable proxy (it was On by provider default)
Thanks

how do yo uget to the selection between GPRS, EDGE, 3G and H? Thanks!

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ATT Tilt - can't browse with PIE while in 3.5G (hsdpa)

Hi,
I have an AT&T Tilt 8900 (w/o cameras).
I like the phone, functionality and form very much (except the terrible battery drainage, of course).
Yesterday I purchased a USIM (a special SIM card that enables 3.5G usage).
Initially I couldn't browse the Web using PIE, couldn't check emails, etc at all.
I then removed several tweaking apps, and retained only Kaiser Tweak.
I checked the Kaiser Tweak settings, as well as the mail settings, etc.
After all this I found that I could send and receive emails while on 3.5G, but I couldn't browse directly, using PIE, nor access the Web using the links in my RSS reader.
After this I defined my Tilt on my home router, turned on WIFI, and found that these two issues did not exist.
Does any one have any idea which setting could be wrong?
Thanks.
Have you tried turning off the proxy?
At the moment, these are my settings:
I looked in: start-settings-connections-connections-my isp-manage existing connections-proxy settings, and the only thing there is the 1st checkbox, which is checked. That's it.
Is there any other place where I should look?
Thank you.
Did you try to uncheck it?
Yes, it doesn't help.
I get (in the bottom left) corner the same message ("connecting").
After about 20 seconds, it turns to "locating".
Oviously, I entered a valid URL, and have tried others as well.
The connection icon shows "H". And I know that this area has HSDPA coverage. Further, I pressed the "H" icon, and it says that it's connected to my ISP on HDSDPA.
Doesn't work when connected to my PC as well (internet passthrough)
I receive the following error:
The page you are looking for cannot be found due to unknown error 0x80072f78.
What does it mean?

Data connection always on?

I have the big H icon on the top which according to the user manual means HSPDA available and next to that a small H with bars to the right which according to the manual means HSPDA is on. Isn't it supposed to be on only when data is going through eg. internet surfing or mail? Or am I completly wrong about this??
I'm coming from a N95 8GB Symbian OS where I could select HSPDA on when needed, is there a similiar setting on WM or does it do it automatically?
Thanks
You are correct. When H and bar appears, it means that youre tranferring data. This may occur if youve set your weather / stock updates to run automatically. You can either disable this function and choose to update it manually. There is also a cabfile called Nodata which allows you to enable/disable your data connections.
check out the link below. Hope this helps
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Previous poster is wrong. It doesn't mean you're transferring data, it just means a data connection has been established. Don't worry about it, it's not draining power or usage or anything. Think of it like your TD2 has simply established its IP address.
sorry, wrong info then
Okay thanks a lot

problems with TD 2, pls help

hello,
I have just purchased the new TD 2, it is the first phone of this kind that I use (up till now I have only used Nokia Business phones)
Although I considered myself a person that knows his way around how to use a mobile phone, I was surprised to actually be forced to read the manual for the HTC TD2 - unfortunately the information in the manual is general and did not help me at all...
ok so here are the problems I hit:
1. For internet access I have activated "Vodafone Live!" packet with my network (Vodafone) - (internet works fine with no probs)
However, whenever I am near a Wi-Fi zone I would like to use that Wi-Fi signal to connect to the internet and NOT my "Vodafone Live!" setting.
I could find NO way to select how to use Wi-Fi and not the other preset network. (As far as I can see the phone still uses Vodafone Live! and not the Wi-Fi, although I previously manually connected to the Wi-Fi and I tested on my other phone that it is working...)
2. With my other business phone (nokia) whenever I stop using the internet page the phone disconnects (the 2 arrows disappear) but with TD2 I have the impression that even when I exit from Opera or IE the phone still remains connected somehow to the internet - how can I make it disconnect and not use the battery for no reason ?
The only way I found to manually disconnect it is going to START / Settings / Communications / the Push Data Connection button to OFF.
Is there any automatic way to do that whenever I quit the browser?
Thank you in advance for u`r help
ahile said:
hello,
I have just purchased the new TD 2, it is the first phone of this kind that I use (up till now I have only used Nokia Business phones)
Although I considered myself a person that knows his way around how to use a mobile phone, I was surprised to actually be forced to read the manual for the HTC TD2 - unfortunately the information in the manual is general and did not help me at all...
ok so here are the problems I hit:
1. For internet access I have activated "Vodafone Live!" packet with my network (Vodafone) - (internet works fine with no probs)
However, whenever I am near a Wi-Fi zone I would like to use that Wi-Fi signal to connect to the internet and NOT my "Vodafone Live!" setting.
I could find NO way to select how to use Wi-Fi and not the other preset network. (As far as I can see the phone still uses Vodafone Live! and not the Wi-Fi, although I previously manually connected to the Wi-Fi and I tested on my other phone that it is working...)
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The Touch Diamond 2 will use an active WIFI connection over your Vodafone Live! connection. If you are wanting to connect to a Public WIFI zone, then simply select the WIFI connection that you want from you list on the "Connect to Wi-Fi network" screen.
ahile said:
2. With my other business phone (nokia) whenever I stop using the internet page the phone disconnects (the 2 arrows disappear) but with TD2 I have the impression that even when I exit from Opera or IE the phone still remains connected somehow to the internet - how can I make it disconnect and not use the battery for no reason ?
The only way I found to manually disconnect it is going to START / Settings / Communications / the Push Data Connection button to OFF.
Is there any automatic way to do that whenever I quit the browser?
Thank you in advance for u`r help
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If this really bothers you there are applications dotted around here on XDA devs that will automaticaly disconnect your internet connection after a preset amount of time. That said though, just because the TD2 has a connection to the internet, does not mean that it is transmitting any data and does not use up any of your internet allowance and also it will not drain your battery that much.
Thank you very much for the explanations and u`r time!
Regarding the first problem above that is good news, although I don’t like it that I don’t have full control over it.
for example I’m going abroad next week for 10 days and I rly don’t want to use the Vodafone live! option as it will cost as hell
an option where I could be prompted and asked if I want it enabled or not - would have been great...
guess ill just delete it from the connections tab and reinstall it when I get back in my country - seems to be the only safe option.
One more thing,
Whenever I try to access a video-clip over the internet (using the IE not the Opera) the phone automatically directs to the program STREAMING VIDEOS program)
And here the clip ONLY works if I select to connect over “THE INTERNET” – why ??
For example if I go to Streaming Videos / Networks, I can find the following:
Vodafone Live!
Vodafone MMS
Mobile internet
My Work Network
My ISP
Work
Secure Wap Network
The Wap Network
The internet
What the heck are all those ??? I only know of “Vodafone Live!” - and the straming video does not work when I select it … it only works when I select THE internet (like I said above)
Ah, if you are going abroad or just anywhere that you don't want to use Vodafone Live!, there is a little application called "NoData" which allows you to toggle your data connections on/off.
Will edit this post once I find where it is again.
[edit] Here it is:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
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As for streaming videos, I've never used it so can't say.
Graffen said:
Ah, if you are going abroad or just anywhere that you don't want to use Vodafone Live!, there is a little application called "NoData" which allows you to toggle your data connections on/off.
Will edit this post once I find where it is again.
[edit] Here it is:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
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As for streaming videos, I've never used it so can't say.
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Indeed, NoData is a handy tool.
What you can also use is the following one found on XDA-devs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131
It will automatically turn off your data connection when you're not on your standard network.
It isn't perfect, but it works well and the developer is really listening to all suggestions and very active.
you guys are a pice of heaven
thank you again for all u`r help
question, this program NoData, also stops Wi-Fi data transfers or just network ?
thank you
NoData will only stop phone network connections. You will be able to use wifi as normal.

Data usage?

I'm in Australia, and with Telstra on their regular GSM network (no 3G). I don't have a data plan, so I don't want my phone to ever use data. Up until recently, I didn't have Telstra's APN programmed into my Dream, but I discovered that I couldn't read MMS without it in there, so I put it in. I now ocassionally see the icon with the 2 up/down arrows and the 'E' in my notifications bar when I don't have WiFi connectivity, and I can only assume that means it's using Telstra to check emails, etc. which I don't want...
I've gone in to the wireless controls and ticked "Use 2G networks only", but that doesn't seem to help it. It's going to end up costing me a lot if it keeps using data through my mobile provider. I have WiFi in 90% of the places I go, so I have no need for a data plan!
try to adjust your apn so that the username and password sections are blank. to see if that works just try and connect to a webpage without wifi on.
david1171 said:
try to adjust your apn so that the username and password sections are blank. to see if that works just try and connect to a webpage without wifi on.
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try downloading APNdroid. It disables all but non data apn's i think (make sure you test your phone to see if you do receive the MMS)
Also make sure data roaming is disabled ( Settings > Wireless Settings > Mobile Settings )

TILT/KAISER and no data plan

Hello, I have a HTC TILT running WM 6.1 that I have purchased from ebay.
Recently I have noticed the 'E' - edge icon in the top right of my phone.
I am wondering if I might be being using any 'data' while this is on because I am not paying for an unlimited data plan.
I have searched and tested several programs...
Bandswitch - supposed to allow me to change the bands im using, however I have tried all of the settings and I still get the edge icon.
KaiserTweak - I have disabled Media Net and the other options
NoData - I have disabled ATT ISP GPRS, Media Net, and My Connection
And further more I have manually deleted the settings of these three under ... start - settings - connections - advanced - select networks - edit
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thoughts? Am I still potentially using data?
ps, off topic - I have always turned my phone 'off' while using wifi and browsing... would I be using JUST the wifi connections while connected?
my my...dude you've got to read the manual that comes with the device. if you don't have the manual, i think you can download it as a pdf.
to put it simply, windows mobile tells you about your currently in-use connections and currently available connections in the following way.
all you have to do is look at TWO icons to get a full idea of whats going on.
FIRST ICON:
in the top bar, going from left to right, you will see a BIG icon that will show one of the following:
1. big "G" (this means that GPRS is AVAILABLE on the cell tower your phone is currently connected to)
2. big "E" (this means that EDGE is AVAILABLE on the cell tower your phone is currently connected to)
3. big "H" (this means that HSDPA/3G is AVAILABLE on the cell tower your phone is currently connected to)
4. a transmitting tower kind of icon (this means that your WIFI is ON. if WIFI is CONNECTED, the transmitting tower icon will have some arrows on it)
5. two arrows pointing away from each other and occasionally spinning indicates that the device is connected to your PC via ActiveSync.
summary: this first icon tells you which data speed is AVAILABLE on your phone network OR that WIFI is on and whether or not you are connected to some WIFI access point OR the current status of the ActiveSync connection.
SECOND ICON:
immediately to the right of the first icon described above, you will see an icon showing your phone signal strength. on the top-left corner of this icon, you will see one of the following mini-icons:
1. small "Y" shaped triangular symbol (the device is simply connected to a cell tower and your phone should be able to dial out and receive calls)
2. small "G" (this means you are connected to GPRS...your data connection may be in use. see summary below.)
3. small "E" (this means you are connected to EDGE...your data connection may be in use. see summary below.)
4. small "H" (this means you are connected to HSDPA/3G...your data connection may be in use. see summary below.)
5. small phone receiver icon (a call is in progress)
summary: this icon exclusively shows what your device is doing with the phone network.
PUTTING THE 2 TOGETHER:
if WIFI is on and connected (you can tell by looking at the first icon) AND your data connection is available and connected (by looking at the second icon), then the device uses WIFI, to the best of my knowledge. if ActiveSync is connected AND WIFI is connected AND your data connection is connected, then the device uses the ActiveSync connection to the best of my knowledge.
its really not that difficult to understand once you grasp the concept. hope this helps.
I appreciate the help, thank you. I bought it from ebay so i just got the model and the charger.
however...
1. small "Y" shaped triangular symbol (the device is simply connected to a cell tower and your phone should be able to dial out and receive calls)
2. small "G" (this means you are connected to GPRS...your data connection may be in use. see summary below.)
3. small "E" (this means you are connected to EDGE...your data connection may be in use. see summary below.)
4. small "H" (this means you are connected to HSDPA/3G...your data connection may be in use. see summary below.)
5. small phone receiver icon (a call is in progress)
summary: this icon exclusively shows what your device is doing with the phone network.
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I understand...kind of... "your data connection may be in use" ...
im just looking for a yes or no really. If im texting and just calling and i have an EDGE icon will I be billed for extra data usage?
If the E is in a big square then it's just showing network connected to, if the E is above the signal bars then your data is connected to the network... Since you say using no data i imagine first is applicable
You was already given a rundown and on that info should be able to make your own assumption since we can't see your phone....
Texts and calls don't get charged for data "unless 3G call Video", you would need to be using an application that uses data to be charged for it.
godsp33d said:
Bandswitch - supposed to allow me to change the bands im using, however I have tried all of the settings and I still get the edge icon.
KaiserTweak - I have disabled Media Net and the other options
NoData - I have disabled ATT ISP GPRS, Media Net, and My Connection
And further more I have manually deleted the settings of these three under ... start - settings - connections - advanced - select networks - edit
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WOOOWW
to connect to gprs/3g internet, you have to have correct settings, most importantly apn. this is what those tweaks do; they change your apn from correct for example "internet" to "internet00" so only what you really have to do is, make sure it's that way. or no settings at all. withour correct apn you won't connect. nodata works pretty reliable with doing so.

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