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unlocking - the hd

well, its been about for several months now, its been moaned about, praised, elevated to such heights and now, its just a phone, that looks quite battered and normal, its does some things great, and others so badly..
so now that everyone has made their money out of selling unlocks for the device, is someone going to post a free unlock as was promised some months ago, to finally put the end to people making money out of it all...
my device is rather battered looking, and i just simply cant see the point of paying for an unlock if they are going to have to change it anyways under a warranty issue.......
so come on, just as someone did with the diamond, put the user first, as this forum used too instead of the pounds stirling.... as is now the case....
i can bearly afford my contract costs, let alone an unlock fee too...
Britain is bust, have some pitty for us....

1) if you have to get it replaced under warranty, then after sending a scan of rma documents for proof you get a free unlock for the new phone, if you bought the unlock from us originally
2) I saw nobody who promised free unlock to everyone other than the contributing members.
3) nobody is obliged to do this for free or not for free, even if you disagree with that.
4) last but not least: as for diamond, that free thingie was a ripoff of our software. sorry.
PS: I see only now that the post is old... Olipro showed it to me now

I love how you had a poll going to get people to "vote free"
like that was somehow going to magic up your very own personal expert slave to produce it for you... it's just as pathetic as the "Vote for world peace" crap that Hippies dream up.
Either do it yourself or take what's available, don't sit on your arse demanding it out of the rest of the world like it's your divine right.

now i gotta take a crap..... lol

jasjamming said:
now i gotta take a crap..... lol
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WAHEY, look who's back.
you should get your ass on IRC man.

Olipro said:
WAHEY, look who's back.
you should get your ass on IRC man.
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whats the channel again on what server?

I know times are harder but £10.50 is hardly going to break the bank.

why is there security on the g1/android

lets say you have all you stuff all pass worded with the apps you got the lock screen up. even the contact owner app to tell you call or email some one. so you think ur fone is fully protected right. oh and you have your wheres my droid app....i find your fone and just wipe it. i got a new fone fresh os ready for me to sign up and use your service.
thats what i think if i lost my fone. so is there an app out dere that can prevent/password home+power my fone and so no one can sell/use it?

Not yet...but you could ask cyanogen to implement a password-protected wipe feature? Plus just call your carrier and tell them to disable your IMEI number...phone will become useless

It doesnt really matter if the person uses the stolen phone, if they cant they'll just chuck it. Either way you're left without a phone...

AdrianK said:
It doesnt really matter if the person uses the stolen phone, if they cant they'll just chuck it. Either way you're left without a phone...
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If i found a g1 that doesnt seem damaged, i would never just throw it away. I would either sell it to some idiot or if i feel like i want maybe return it.

alritewhadeva said:
Not yet...but you could ask cyanogen to implement a password-protected wipe feature?
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If this was implemented and the hard-spl was still on the device then the recovery image could be replaced allowing password-free flashing again

there is app that allerts you if someone puts another SIM card in you phone and it does work I tried it. SIM card checker

madunix said:
If i found a g1 that doesnt seem damaged, i would never just throw it away. I would either sell it to some idiot or if i feel like i want maybe return it.
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Yeah, my point was that password protecting the phone so it can't be reflashed doesn't help the victim, they are still without a phone. Tbh it sounds like more trouble than good to password protect the SPL and recovery. What if you forgot the password yourself?
SIM card checker sounds good, but again that's useless unless it gives you some kind of information that could help you recovery the phone.

sorry to bump. but i wasnt home. okay so yeah we should have something to protect the recovery. also i would be happy, if a person went thru all that trouble to take my fone. thinking alright i can wipe it and sell it. then boom the recovery is pass worded. the sim checker app would not work. because they can just wipe your fone.
to the person. can i really call tmo and tell them my imei # to disable my fone?

so lets see, out of the million or so G1 owners in the US alone, how many of them actually know how to download, rename, and flash a rom? judging by the number of people who post ridiculous questions like "OMG I just renamed the rom i downloaded update.zip.zip and now it wont install! IS MY PHONE BRICKED?!", I'd venture to guess that not many people are going to go through all the trouble.
besides, this is why you have the 5.99/mo insurance on your 400 dollar cell phone, you know, in case you do something stupid, like losing it. that way, all you do is call up your provide, have it put into a lost/stolen suspension, and then talk to the insurance carrier and get a new one. I think the $50 deductible is a low price to pay for being an idiot if you happen to lose your phone.

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besides, this is why you have the 5.99/mo insurance on your 400 dollar cell phone, you know, in case you do something stupid, like losing it. that way, all you do is call up your provide, have it put into a lost/stolen suspension, and then talk to the insurance carrier and get a new one. I think the $50 deductible is a low price to pay for being an idiot if you happen to lose your phone.
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$50?!?!?!? WTF?
My girl dropped her first G1 in the toilet and lost her replacement. Each time Asurion charged her $150 deductable.
Whos your insurance provider? Maybe we need to move to Colorado...

kusotare said:
so lets see, out of the million or so G1 owners in the US alone, how many of them actually know how to download, rename, and flash a rom? judging by the number of people who post ridiculous questions like "OMG I just renamed the rom i downloaded update.zip.zip and now it wont install! IS MY PHONE BRICKED?!", I'd venture to guess that not many people are going to go through all the trouble.
besides, this is why you have the 5.99/mo insurance on your 400 dollar cell phone, you know, in case you do something stupid, like losing it. that way, all you do is call up your provide, have it put into a lost/stolen suspension, and then talk to the insurance carrier and get a new one. I think the $50 deductible is a low price to pay for being an idiot if you happen to lose your phone.
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Agree 100%.

oneG said:
$50?!?!?!? WTF?
My girl dropped her first G1 in the toilet and lost her replacement. Each time Asurion charged her $150 deductable.
Whos your insurance provider? Maybe we need to move to Colorado...
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What would you say if I got my replacement for free after dropping it.

supremeteam256 said:
What would you say if I got my replacement for free after dropping it.
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i got a free replacement also. my first g1 was dropped twice and i bricked it.

supremeteam256 said:
What would you say if I got my replacement for free after dropping it.
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i would say...great minds think alike or at least know how to cook up a good story.
I also dropped...er...threw it across the street in my drunken rage ignited by said lady...
I called TMO on her phone and told em it was a hardware issue: g1 just stop working....They had me troubleshoot, found i was still in warranty and sent me my replacement, absolutly free.
The warranty however doesnt cover water damage and she admited it was self inflicted thus, she was ineligible for warranty replacement and insurance was the only life saver.

oneG said:
i would say...great minds think alike or at least know how to cook up a good story.
I also dropped...er...threw it across the street in my drunken rage ignited by said lady...
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lol...........................

Goodbye AT&T!!!

So I have been using my lovely N1 with AT&T from the day I got it. Just popped my old SIM card into the N1, added a $15/month unlimited data plan and presto blamo it worked like a charm.
So last night I get a text from AT&T telling me I need to add a "smartphone" plan to my account. How do they know I have a smartphone? Anyway, I ignored it. Just now, I got a message from them telling me my phone plan had been upgraded to the minimum plan...$30/month. I am now paying $15 more a month for absolutely nothing.
Buh-bye AT&T...going carrier shopping. Good thing I am not in contract! That's what using unlocked phones will let you do!

Same issue. I guess they figured out how to find nexus ones on their network.
My thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630660
Anyone know how they do this ? can we hide the phone model from them ?

you imei is a digital trace. once you make one phone call or text from the phone, thats called billable airtime! your imei comes up in their system as what ever phone you are using in this case the nexus one. this is the same way tmobile knows how people are using a iphone

britoso said:
Same issue. I guess they figured out how to find nexus ones on their network.
My thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630660
Anyone know how they do this ? can we hide the phone model from them ?
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no way to hide the phone at all

T-Mobile is waiting with open arms

Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.

Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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quoted for truth.

Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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ahfunaki said:
quoted for truth.
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Everyones needs are different. I have wifi at work, home etc and have a premium GPS on my phone (offline maps).
Heres another one, actually an idiom.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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Amen!
I was just about to dial whine one one and call a Waaaambualnce.
If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it.
Besides this is a Nexus One forum not my carrier is crap forum. Two threads that are the same and keep floating to the top of the forum list like unwanted turds.
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Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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Good thing your first post here is a bash.
About paying for data and not paying for data:
For me I don't pay for any data on any phone. Why? No 3G, and I mainly use WiFi.
P.S I totally agree with "A fool and his money are soon parted"
AND to top things off, if someone was saving for a nice and shiny phone, this (and you) have no right to tell them "if you can't waste money, you cant have a new phone" saving for a 530$ phone and paying ONE TIME is far different than paying 30$ a month for data, when it isn't even used or isn't to its full capacity.
jm2c

ScaredyCat said:
Amen!
I was just about to dial whine one one and call a Waaaambualnce.
If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it.
Besides this is a Nexus One forum not my carrier is crap forum. Two threads that are the same and keep floating to the top of the forum list like unwanted turds.
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Totally untrue. You can use this phone with a standard voice with T-Mob, how do I know? I do it.

The real problem is not the price but rather the fact AT&T charges you $30 a month when you can't even use their 3G on your Nexus One.

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Totally untrue. You can use this phone with a standard voice with T-Mob, how do I know? I do it.
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I did this with my tp2 also. I didn't think it was worth paying $30 a month to use when I have wifi pretty much every where I go. I like the nexus a lot better, so I pay for the data for now. However, I rarely use the data, so it is basically $25 down the drain every month.
It's not a matter of being able to afford it, flametards... It's about perceived value for services received.

rossiscatch said:
I did this with my tp2 also. I didn't think it was worth paying $30 a month to use when I have wifi pretty much every where I go. I like the nexus a lot better, so I pay for the data for now. However, I rarely use the data, so it is basically $25 down the drain every month.
It's not a matter of being able to afford it, flametards... It's about perceived value for services received.
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If you're wasting that $25 that's your own fault. Do what you did before if it worked fine.
The point is AT&T or T-Mobile can charge whatever they like. No amount of complaining in here is going to help that. If you want to have a moan the moan on their forums where they might actually see it. ( http://forums.wireless.att.com/ && http://forums.t-mobile.com/ )
Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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The real problem is not the price but rather the fact AT&T charges you $30 a month when you can't even use their 3G on your Nexus One.
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Bingo. This just happend to me yesterday as well. I guess AT&T figured out how to detect the Nexus. I've been paying the full data price for years, just switched it over 2 weeks ago because of this phone. It is pretty weak since its only on edge...

I definitely wouldnt be down for paying 30 a month for Edge, that sucks. Also, why do people have to go trash every thread like it was a personal attack on them, if you dont like his post then dont read it, this is a discussion forum. You act like it automatically directed you here when you went to xda, no, you clicked the link, so click back, there, youre safe.

JoshHart said:
I definitely wouldnt be down for paying 30 a month for Edge, that sucks. Also, why do people have to go trash every thread like it was a personal attack on them, if you dont like his post then dont read it, this is a discussion forum. You act like it automatically directed you here when you went to xda, no, you clicked the link, so click back, there, youre safe.
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Thanks.
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Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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It is relevant to this forum since ATT only just discovered they can label the N1(EDGE) a "smartphone" and charge more money. Other phones with web support still get the EDGE pricing.

ScaredyCat said:
Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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Did you see me complaining? No, you did not. I was simply saying it was possible to not have a data plan at all which was contrary to what you said, incorrectly, earlier. "If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it."
Advice: if you want the thread to die quit posting in it. By the way, AT&T changing their policy on the nexus pertains to the nexus in general. Hence this thread's location in Nexus One General sub-forum.

theomajigga said:
Good thing your first post here is a bash.
About paying for data and not paying for data:
For me I don't pay for any data on any phone. Why? No 3G, and I mainly use WiFi.
P.S I totally agree with "A fool and his money are soon parted"
AND to top things off, if someone was saving for a nice and shiny phone, this (and you) have no right to tell them "if you can't waste money, you cant have a new phone" saving for a 530$ phone and paying ONE TIME is far different than paying 30$ a month for data, when it isn't even used or isn't to its full capacity.
jm2c
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I didn't bash anyone. Just stated my opinion based on the OP.
I hope not everyone here is as overly sensitive as you seem to be.

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quoted for truth.
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Normally i would agree with the 'it's only $15' rationale.
However since these guys can't use 3g, they should get SOME discount from the normal price.

RE-LOCKED BOOT-LOADER for NEXUS ONE BY HTC tech.

Hi,
i sent my nexus one for repair to HTC and i just received it right now.
i have some exciting news (THEY RE-LOCKED MY PHONE BOOT LOADER). please all smart developers HOW CAN I HELP?. i heard that we need the SPL, how can i get it out of my phone. I'm only 15 yrs. i have no experience(noob) except using adb and flashing roms and kernels.
what happend is i broke my screen (my sister ran over it with her car TWICE) and they replaced it for $283.00 + relocked my phone. tell me if i can help before re-rooting. if it won't help any mod who is reading delete or move.

What is a Nexus One doing in the hands of a 15 years old kid ....

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What is a Nexus One doing in the hands of a 15 years old kid ....
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I WORK. for the money

Sorry your phone will be of no use all they did is flash your ROM with the Factory Stock. Or they may have even replaced your entire motherboard if your sister ran over it.

Yeah, thats sounds about right for a mobo replacement and htc does not flash the phone at service, the firmware is already flashed to the motherboard, or so I read.

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Sorry your phone will be of no use all they did is flash your ROM with the Factory Stock. Or they may have even replaced your entire motherboard if your sister ran over it.
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Yup thats how they relocked the bootloader..
but damn, you're caking up at 15..

That said... thanks for thinking about the community and trying to help!

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What is a Nexus One doing in the hands of a 15 years old kid ....
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? Are 15 year old kids suddenly not allowed to have a good phone? Who cares how he paid for it?
That said - thanks OP for thinking of the community, but I don't think there is anything anyone can do to extract that.

Not gonna lie.. you kinda got my hopes up.. my nexus has been freezing up on me a little often now.. and i was going to send it in for warranty but I read ur warranty is voided if u unlock the boot loader so now im stuck..

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Not gonna lie.. you kinda got my hopes up.. my nexus has been freezing up on me a little often now.. and i was going to send it in for warranty but I read ur warranty is voided if u unlock the boot loader so now im stuck..
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He sent it in rooted and they sorted it though. Ive heard quite a few stories now though of rooted phones with blatantly not software/rooted related problems and HTC being the honourable Taiwanese they are happily repairing the phone anyway [tbh it probably costs more of them to flag the phone, invoice for return carriage, store separately etc etc than just effing fixing the thing.]

ScottC said:
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Are 15 year old kids suddenly not allowed to have a good phone? Who cares how he paid for it?
That said - thanks OP for thinking of the community, but I don't think there is anything anyone can do to extract that.
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Thanks man. thats why i'm on XDA to benefit myself with knowledge and others with my knowledge . but i really need to help who needs their warranty back.i will do my best if there is any possible way.

Age
I'm 15 too and I have a nexus
I think Android at a young age can only benefit the future!
I mean, especially being within this XDA rooted community, a kid can learn.
besides that,
I'm also pretty sure this stupid boot loader nonsense will someday solve itself, thanks for the honest effort in trying to help out the community.

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I put a whole year's worth of money into mine.
I'm only 14.

I've dealt with HTC customer service a few times, and it's 100% true they don't care if the phone bootloader is unlocked or not. If you do an exchange they specifically told me that all they do is check the phone for physical and water damage and that's it. They honored my warranty, at least

Seriously guys chill. I'm 15 and I have a Nexus, a Droid (thanks to Google's device seeding), and an ADP1. The Nexus & ADP1 I bought with my own money I had saved up from mowing yards. What does it matter how old the owner is?

Im only 14 and i bought my nexus when i was 13. i worked my butt of to get this phone. just because your young does not mean you cant buy an expensive phone. I mowed lawns, you went to your everyday work. why does it matter how old you are, or how you got the money to buy it?

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Im only 14 and i bought my nexus when i was 13. i worked my butt of to get this phone. just because your young does not mean you cant buy an expensive phone. I mowed lawns, you went to your everyday work. why does it matter how old you are, or how you got the money to buy it?
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I'm also 14 and own a Nexus One. It's ignorant to say "your ____ years old you don't deserve this phone". Not everybody was gifted the phone.

Damn when I was 14 I don't think I would have had the will power to save $600, would have kept spending it halfway through lol. Props to all you young guns!

I cant even remember when my kids were 14 years old let alone when I was. Seems like forever ago. Still, I like to see kids earn their toys, makes em respect the investment. Good work young fellars.

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I cant even remember when my kids were 14 years old let alone when I was. Seems like forever ago. Still, I like to see kids earn their toys, makes em respect the investment. Good work young fellars.
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+1. I like to see kids work and save to get something they really don't need, but want. It's okay, as long as they don't use them some way that's going to get them into trouble.
But still, I am curious - who gets to pay for those data plans? Buying the phone is only the beginning of the expense.

Did anyone engrave their phone?

I just ordered my Nexus One at its exorbitant price of $529 and almost chose the engrave my phone feature but didnt really want to wait extra time and it won't be seen anyhow.... I was going to put 'iPhone Killa' and maybe 'F$%k Apple!'.....
Anyways, just wondering if you engraved your phone and what did you put?

i was going to put "touch me...thats what she said" (corny i kno) but reading through the disclaimers on the site, i decided not to

I was going to engrave it as well, but decided not to because of the non-refundable part.

Nope. I was thinking about selling my N1 in a year or so, and I didnt think the buyer would appreciate the engrave.

I almost did, but I bought mine on launch day and feared the engraving would delay my overnight shipment.
Come to find out, it's not an engraving, but a silk-screen type process... also doesn't delay the shipping of your phone.
Now that I have it, I'm glad I didn't do it.

I went for it. *shrug* It was free.
All that is gold does not glitter;
not all who wander are lost.
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I'm kinda a Tolkien geek.
Speaking of which, elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo.
Wow I'm a nerd.

kobecamp2009 said:
Nope. I was thinking about selling my N1 in a year or so, and I didnt think the buyer would appreciate the engrave.
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You think that there would actually be someone looking for a second hand year-or-two old phone that would actually pay more than the cost of SHIPPING for it? Not worth selling!

I purchased my N1 on Craigslist for $325.00 about a month ago. The reason it was so cheap? "Michael & Sasha - Always" was engraved on the back.
I personally don't care what the phone says on the back but I'm sure w few people will which means the phone will be harder to sell in the long run.

[IO]ERROR said:
I purchased my N1 on Craigslist for $325.00 about a month ago. The reason it was so cheap? "Michael & Sasha - Always" was engraved on the back.
I personally don't care what the phone says on the back but I'm sure w few people will which means the phone will be harder to sell in the long run.
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I guess Michael and Sasha didnt last...

lnjryan said:
I guess Michael and Sasha didnt last...
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+1 whahahah thisd made me laugh

lnjryan said:
I guess Michael and Sasha didnt last...
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Apparently she got the phone for him so if they were still together and he sold it I doubt they are together now.. Hehe I know my woman would kill me.

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Apparently she got the phone for him so if they were still together and he sold it I doubt they are together now.. Hehe I know my woman would kill me.
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Or atleast take the phone back
anyways: i hear that the most didn't engrave it at the last minute. Is it because all of you plan to sell your nexus?

I got zKiLLA put on mine

There was a long ass thread dedicated to this back in early January when the phone was released... You're exactly 5 months late to the day.

well im sorry for the useless thread then, but I didn't buy my nexus one in january, i bought it in june

did not engrave incase i decided to re sell.. the nice thing about a no contract plan
wish i had gotten "not the droid you are looking for"
i think that wouldn't have hurt the resale