I have Drizzy's Personal Hero rom and its ridiculously slow and laggy compared to Cyan3.9.10... Just wondering if theres a way to make it any faster.
I read you could install swapper and overclocker from the market and that would make it faster but then i read that it would brick your phone?
Also Drizzys Personal hero didnt come with some of the htc widgets like stocks and contacts, is there somewhere i can download those from?
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pretty much nothing will be anywhere near as fast as cyanogenmod. that's what his rom is know for really.
don't run overclock or the swapper applications from the market on any of drizzys heros. swapper is automatic on it. you need a linux-swap partition on your sd card and that will REALLLLLLy speed it up.
also, if you want all the htc widgets, get the FULL hero off his page. his personal is customized to his (and coincidentally, my) liking, so he got rid of exchange, widgets he didn't use, etc.
none of the builds on his current thread are fully optimized either. he's going to wait till he gets all the bugs and kinks out before he fully optimizes it. when it's fully optimized, it'll run faster and more stable.
grandomegabosses said:
pretty much nothing will be anywhere near as fast as cyanogenmod. that's what his rom is know for really.
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It's not so much that Cyanogenmod and other stock builds are fast so much that builds with Sense are slow. Stock builds run at baseline speed-- that which any non-standard builds should be compared to.
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It's not so much that Cyanogenmod and other stock builds are fast so much that builds with Sense are slow. Stock builds run at baseline speed-- that which any non-standard builds should be compared to.
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true. very true. my statement was a VAST exaggeration
I quit running jac or drizzy's because of the lag. If you really want hero run zeroXD 3.82r3 been running it for a couple of day's running 4 screens clock people bookmarks and weather zero lag I have been pushing this build hard it's my understanding that the dalvik cache is what slows hero down twisted has forced cache to SD and stops the lag not a single crash or loading screen yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525284
I hope noone takes this the wrong way, I am indebted to Cyanogen for his mods. But lately, each update has brought me really cool new features, along with a few maddening bugs.
I may do the unthinkable, and revert to an earlier version, for a time. What do you, the experts, feel has been the best all around stable version to fall back on?
Cyanogen has stated the fact that several of his latest build have kinda wandered down the experimental dividing line.
4.2.9.1 was giving me to many problems. I ended up dropping back to 4.2.8.1 and have had good results with it in this config.... 4.2.8.1 - cfs bootimage - compcache on, home screen locked in mem. - app2sd - Then zipalign everything and using advanced task manager, I keep advanced launcher excluded and any time it starts to even blink wrong I hit the end all tasks button.
I also don't run hardly any widgets. Although I am trying out a calendar widget and figured I would turn on weather and news from nexus too.
All seems good.
Those same settings in 4.2.9.1 were really chunky and even after changing cfs to bfs, and dropping compcache it still was not to my likeing.
YMMV
I have voted for the one I am using (4.2.8)
Its been fine for me, and while so have his previous builds, thats the one I am currently using and I have no problems.
I voted for 4.2.5 because it just works for me. I don't have all the fancy stuff in place like a swap partion, comcache and whatever else. Just apps2sd and a rom.
Blame Google for being characteristically evil. If those retards didn't send him that C&D order, 4.2.9.1 would be as bug-free as 4.1.11.1 was.
Just wanted to ask why it is that the 2.1 roms out there don't have the new launcher or gallery apps?
For me the most exciting thing about 2.1 is the new launcher but every 2.1 rom I have tried still has the old pull-up tray. I was under the impression that the main things that made 2.1 visually different to 2.0 were the new launcher and gallery?
You have to remember that the developers are trying to "port" this stuff over from the Nexus One... a new phone with a 1ghz processor and more RAM than that of our G1s and MT3Gs...
That new Nexus ONE also has 3D hardware acceleration. This is the primary reason why the gallery and app menus from 2.1 "Eclair" work well on it and not our phones.
Have patience; we'll get them soon, but it will take time to get it working.
Thanks for the response rbrainard.
I get that it probably won't run very well on our older tech. But I just found it weird that it wasn't included in at least some of the roms just as a proof of concept type thing?
Or, is it just that those two particular apps won't run on our phones yet? Constant FC's or something?
It's more or less a "backporting" issue...
Like taking a sweet looking Windows Vista Aero theme and getting it to work on Windows 2000... ??? If that's a good analogy?
The way those softwares are currently developed is specifically for they hardware intended... As we have different hardware... a software revamp is required.
This rom has them, as well as live wallpapers, in the beta version. I've only used the basic rom though, so I can't comment on how it works.
Yeah i saw that one, really impressive that they've managed to get it to work so far! I guess now we just need to wait until someone manages to resize and optimize the App to work on our smaller screens / processors.
Aside from appearance (the new phone and browser buttons in the launcher), what does then new stock FroYo have that CM (5.0.6 or 5.0.7 test) doesn't have? And vice versa?
I know there's Flash, of course, but what else?
When I was reading the articles about FroYo's new features, it seemed that a lot of them had already been implemented in CM (tethering, for example).
Well um, JIT - and other small things such as the update all button in the market, automatic updating, small UI revamp, preview gallery items by pinching, small things that you have to find yourself, by trying Froyo of course.
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Aside from appearance (the new phone and browser buttons in the launcher), what does then new stock FroYo have that CM (5.0.6 or 5.0.7 test) doesn't have? And vice versa?
I know there's Flash, of course, but what else?
When I was reading the articles about FroYo's new features, it seemed that a lot of them had already been implemented in CM (tethering, for example).
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What Eclair said, plus fuller Exchange support, etc etc. You know google had the IO conference this week right? They detailed the changes there.
All technical aspects aside. The speed is sick. Froyo is so much faster it is not even funny. I do miss my trackball wake though.
Markdental said:
All technical aspects aside. The speed is sick. Froyo is so much faster it is not even funny. I do miss my trackball wake though.
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It is fast and I also miss the trackball wake so much!!
Besides the obvious access to particular Honeycomb apps, what other benefits does Honeycomb offer on our G-Tabs?
I ask because it seems like some people prefer Honeycombs GUI but I also noticed that one is able to theme their tablets to look like Honeycomb while staying on a non-Honeycomb based ROM.
What tipped it for me to go ahead and install the Bottle of Smoke alpha:
- improved widgets, including scrollable Gmail previewer
- Gmail app is fantastic
- access to 3.0-only tablet-optimized apps (like Touchdown for my Exchange email)
- laying out the homescreens is easier since you can preview the widgets
Just a couple of things I've discovered (I just applied this ROM yesterday...):
- improved Market interface
- HC themes approach but do not fully capture the "holographic" feel of HC
-the notification system is different enough that I'm not sure whether I like it better or not.
I'm not mentioning the particular quirks of the BoS alpha - there are threads here and elsewhere that chronicle those. They should definitely be part of your decision, as it takes a good measure of patience to deal with.
I went to the Century Eyes Rom by roebeet, and I'm loving it. It gives me the tablet feel with no bugs. I do miss the market and Youtube apps from honeycomb though.
(Century Eyes = Notion Ink Adam's EdenUI)
Although being just an alpha and lacking flash support, I don't see myself moving away from BOS anytime soon. Granted quite few areas still have bugs to be worked out, visual asthetics alone have me hooked on roebeets rom. Not to mention it surprisingly runs very well vs. coming from vegan rc1. I have live wallpaper going, of course oc-ed, and I can still play game any for the most part with little to no lag. The menu/context menu layout for adding/changing wallpaper, active/recent apps menu, default keyboard, and default browser ease of use are my main reasons for sticking with it. If you want a rom with minute issues, this one is obviosly not for you. But if you can sacrifice a random reboot every other day and don't watch youtube all the time like me, BOS is a keeper and will only get better.
Edit: I should also note that my gtab is mostly for recreational use. A friend of a friend bought it bout a month ago now, tried doing something without proper knowledge, soft-bricked it, gave it to my friend who in turn gave it to me while the original owner bought an Ipad a week later. So I dont find it appropriate to use the term 'daily driver' since I see it as a very fun toy currently so my opinion on ROMs should include this.
In all honesty, I would have been mad if I hadn't found such a good modding community for this device. The stock is terrible.
So i have the BoS alpha installed , it runs very smooth - the only real FC come from open-gl not being available yet, well that and the apps that arent compatible with the nvidia kernel in general... i hope this helps a bit, if not please let me know exactly what apps your planning on using, and ill test them and post a video on youtube for you to see how well they run. my channel on youtube is ( youtube.com/itsnothowyoudie ) the latest video shows the homescreen and a couple apps including the scrolling gmail, which btw is great.
ps. one thing that has annoyed me, not being able to resize the widgets (;
I am also running Century Eyes. It offers the tablet feel, with improved resolution over all other Froyo ROMs. The resolution and the scrollable widgets are the best of Honeycomb, but I need Hardware Acceleration for flash. I use the streaming TV and movie apps, and it is required that you have flash enabled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-C27sIuX0&feature=player_embedded#t=0s
I am running the Evervol GB ROM with the Honeycomb 3D-SBicons theme and it looks so much like HC that you wouldn't believe it. Especially when using Launcher Pro with scrollable widgets. Amazing! Plus, almost everything works (flash, camera, both sd cards, usb to pc, etc.).
I also like honeycombs browser which syncs my bookmarks with the chrome browser. Been waiting for android to do this, I have tons of bookmarks on my computer so this helps a lot. The new 4.1 version of bottle of smoke is very smooth and works very well for me.
I think I'll wait until one of the Honeycomb ROMs hits final release. I need it to be able to do everything I can currently do in froyo before switching (open GL, flash, video playback, etc...)
Good ROM
Sidriel said:
I went to the Century Eyes Rom by roebeet, and I'm loving it. It gives me the tablet feel with no bugs. I do miss the market and Youtube apps from honeycomb though.
(Century Eyes = Notion Ink Adam's EdenUI)
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Refering to battery, the best rom i think, i dont like the hidding status bar and i couldnt use the long search whit other programs, I like this rom so much i hope it could be fixed!!
EL TEJANO said:
Besides the obvious access to particular Honeycomb apps, what other benefits does Honeycomb offer on our G-Tabs?
I ask because it seems like some people prefer Honeycombs GUI but I also noticed that one is able to theme their tablets to look like Honeycomb while staying on a non-Honeycomb based ROM.
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To answer the OPs post: Froyo gave genuine performance improvements and features i.e. batterly life, reduced sluggishness, Flash (which had limited support on earlier Android IIRC), but AFAIK Honeycomb gives mostly UI improvements -scrollable widgets, etc. However, some of those 'UI improvements' are also significant improvements in how the tablet is used as well as how it looks (i.e. UI = user INTERFACE and not just how the home screen looks).
See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Honeycomb on gTab has some tradeoffs, but if you want to keep all the Froyo functionality you can try different launchers on any ROM, although I'm sure Froyo launchers have limitations when compared to the Honeycomb launchers. I am currently using VTL launcher on Vegan 5.1.1 (Froyo), I would not call it a 'Honeycomb Replacement' but the ROM (Vegan 5.1.1) is way better than the stock ROM and the launcher (VTL) is way better than the stock launcher, and everything that I need still works, including camera, keyboard, video, and PvZ.
For ideas on setting up your launcher/home screen see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862030
Recommend Honeycomb FlashBack or GtabComb,
You basically won't have camera functionality and some Flash won't work in browser. Most Games will work, the cool 3d ones at least.
Just give it a try, its as easy double clicking the nvflash exe
I switched back from GTABcomb to cm7 because there is one particular app didnt support. The back support is not that good. On the good side, you have everything mention here by other members but flash is only playable through opera browser and no HW acc. The sound is louder too on HC and screen more responsive.
I'm running FB 5.5. Visually, it is more satisfying than GB or Froyo.
Gmail widget and app handles email better.
Stock Calendar app and calender widget is better as well.
YouTube and Market HC is visually better as well.
Flash works in browser opera and stock.
qkster said:
I'm running FB 5.5. Visually, it is more satisfying than GB or Froyo.
Gmail widget and app handles email better.
Stock Calendar app and calender widget is better as well.
YouTube and Market HC is visually better as well.
Flash works in browser opera and stock.
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Not to mention the Netflix 1.3 apk works perfectly now, all youtube vids play in full screen, No sleep of death, etc. TV.com acts weird and runs small like it's on a phone but I may play around with different versions. At this point the only thing I'm really missing is the camera. To be honest I think I only want it because I can't have it. I'd probably go 6 months without using it if it worked. I did notice that FB 5.5 runs a bit slower than GTABComb 3.2. I got 3345 quad score on GTABComb with the built in OC script where I get about 2450 with SetCPU at 1400mhz on FB 5.5. Overall I feel like both of these HC roms have evolved to a point where the leary should jump in and give them a shot. You won't be missing much and what you gain is seeing your tablet run visually the way it was meant to.
Currently running GTabComb 3.2 and it's pretty good. Stable, quick. Been considering Illuminate as well. I will say HC is such a slicker interface over Froyo or GB. I definitely would like to stick with HC now that I've played with it.