Will be receiving a HTC TyTN II. It will be Orange branded and sim locked.
I understand the first thing will be to install Hard SPL.
1. Now, I read somewhere that HTC haven't released any official ROMs of their own with Windows Mobile 6.1. Why is it that the Shipped ROMs wiki page has them here?
2. Whether or not they are HTC's own 6.1 ROMs, there are three I'm willing to try. They are (and I'm just copying and pasting these from the Shipped ROMs wiki page):
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/1170540....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip
These three seem to be "original" HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs. All are worldwide English. So what's the difference between each? Should I simply assume the one with the higher version number is the better one?
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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Thanks for confirming for me. I can't check the e-Club yet as I will be getting the phone maybe tomorrow. Anyhow, I really just want the original (and latest if possible) HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. Which should I pick form the list in the original post. Is one of them the same as the current one on HTC's e-Club?
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
yardie.spike said:
As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
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Thanks. Yup, I found 3 that seem to be HTC originals. Don't know how up to date they are with HTC's e-Club but they should do. From the three I have found below, I'm assuming the higher version is the latest (3.28.405.0), but why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
Here are the 3 I found:
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/11705402...16.25_Ship.zip
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
yrsmart said:
why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
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Some users have better luck with older versions, or older radios. Newest isn't always better
yrsmart said:
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
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Appear to be different build versions an different radios, Some builds/radios work better for some users than others.
yrsmart said:
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
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Read the thread attached to them., it will tell you what comes with the rom and what doesn't
yrsmart said:
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
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Hope this helped in some way. The best way to find the best ROM/Radio is to try them all and see what suits you the best.
Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
rlatarche said:
Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
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I think we are referring to Security unlocking. This process ensures that you phone cannot become bricked by installing the latest radios from HTC that have extra security. Without security unlock you cannot downgrade these radios without a tool called FrankenKaiser.
I'd recommend Sec Unlock for every user, It can be re-locked later if need be.
Thanks
Dave
Yes but the Orange UK phones are radio locked too, which requires the phone to sim unlocked and HardSPL installed to (To prevent Bricking)
stuart-online said:
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
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Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
yrsmart said:
Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
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You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
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Dave
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Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
yrsmart said:
Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
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Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
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Dave
DaveShaw said:
Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
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Dave
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Excellent, I will try this method and let you know how it goes. Thanks.
Hi I have a HTC not ORANGE, AT&T, Turkcell etc. TYTN2, which is German and it is not Cid locked.
I want to flash an original English ROM (RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar), is it necessary to run the HardSPL or can I just run the rom update utility.
Thanks.
Now don't quote me on this but I think if you're flashing an OEM rom from ATT to an ATT branded phone you don't neeed to update the spl. same is true for the HTC kaiser when flashing an official HTC rom. But, if you wanna flash an ATT Rom to your HTC kaiser, or vice versa, I believe you need to change the spl. Now I'm not 100% sure about this and hopefully one of the senior members can clarify this, but you could just play it safe and switch ot like jocky's 3.29 or 3.56 spl and not worry too much about it.
Do I need to flash hardspl? I have the US tmobile branded touch pro2
Yes you do.
Seriously?
Dude, just read the advice, follow the instructions and be happy. At the very least, the hardSPL run will acquaint you with the flashing procedures.
Hey, i got an HTC HD7S from AT&T, i need some help, can i flash the new radio to this phone and a custom rom ? or does it differ anyhow from HTC HD7 ?
Please help me out
Yes you can.
The HD7and HD7s are the same device only the touch LCD screen is different. The HD7s has a SLCD screen and the HD7 has a LCD screen.
To Change the radio and to install a custom rom you need to downgrade the devices SPL and install XSPL.
Steps are -
1. Downgrade the devices SPL to at or below 3.xxx (which is required to install XSPL
2 Install XSPL (RSPL/HSPL) to the device. (which is required to flash a custom rom)
3. Flash the custom rom and radio of your choice.
Just follow Shadows tutorial on downgrading SPL, installing XSPL and flashing custom roms and radios. It has all the methods for downgrading SPL, the links for stock/shipped roms and radios.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295068
If you need any help or have any questions just let me know!
xdrc45 said:
Yes you can.
The HD7and HD7s are the same device only the touch LCD screen is different. The HD7s has a SLCD screen and the HD7 has a LCD screen.
To Change the radio and to install a custom rom you need to downgrade the devices SPL and install XSPL.
Steps are -
1. Downgrade the devices SPL to at or below 3.xxx (which is required to install XSPL
2 Install XSPL (RSPL/HSPL) to the device. (which is required to flash a custom rom)
3. Flash the custom rom and radio of your choice.
Just follow Shadows tutorial on downgrading SPL, installing XSPL and flashing custom roms and radios. It has all the methods for downgrading SPL, the links for stock/shipped roms and radios.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295068
If you need any help or have any questions just let me know!
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Thank You for your informative reply, and i apologize for my late reply, i just have too many university assignments at the moment. I forgot to mention that i live in UK and on the AT&T HD7s i only get EDGE connection, instead of 3G. I was wondering if i can flash a European radio to somehow use 3G. Do you think this will work, has it ever been done before ?
arseny1991 said:
Thank You for your informative reply, and i apologize for my late reply, i just have too many university assignments at the moment. I forgot to mention that i live in UK and on the AT&T HD7s i only get EDGE connection, instead of 3G. I was wondering if i can flash a European radio to somehow use 3G. Do you think this will work, has it ever been done before ?
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You can't, it's a hardware issue
husam666 said:
You can't, it's a hardware issue
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shame, but i guess thats ok, since i have wifi at home and wifi everywhere around uni campus. EDGE still works good though, im still able to get my emails and whatsapp and that the only things i use my phone for.
Anyways, thanks to everyone
Hi,
I have a HTC hero (CDMA) phone; flashed with GSM Radio (update-hero-radio-63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26-signed).
I just need to know the possibility of the reverting it back to the CDMA Radio.
I have correct cdma radio version and needed softwares, and the bricked phone.
If you need additional details, please let me know.
Can you please let me know what are possible solutions for this?
Regards,
Kasun.