problems with both hero and cyanogen 4.0.4 - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I started off with cyanogen 4.0.4, I like it, but it seems to lag a lot when I open/close the screen, when the screen view changes from side to side to up and down. I have a 4gb (I think its class 4) card, and I formated it with like 3.xxgb fat32, then 512mb ext3.
So I decided to format the card and try hero (latest non-experimental version).
I like it better, but everytime I touch something it gives me a TouchFlo force close error. I tried reformatting the card and re wiping/flashing the update, no go. For hero I had 3.xx fat32, 512 ext3, and 32 swap.
For both builds I had cyanogens latest recovery, the latest radio, and the latest spl (hykaro, I think I spelled that wrong lol)
So, am I doing something wrong? My friends g1 has the cyan 4.0.4 build on a 2gb card I believe, and his is smokin fast compared to mine.
Someone help me out, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
At this point I think I wanna keep the hero build, but I need to solve the touchflo issue. If not, ill be fine with cyanogen's, but ill just run the hero theme on it.
Also, if I go with cyanogen, should I run a swap partition or no?

The swap partition really increases the speed of the Rom, Are you running apps2sd?

my suggestion is make a swap partition and set up usernint.sh so you can use both compcache and swap on Cyanogen 4.04. It should speed it up a lot. Link in my signature.

jad011 said:
The swap partition really increases the speed of the Rom, Are you running apps2sd?
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with hero i was, as i understood, it does apps2sd automatically?
with cyanogen 4.0.4, im not sure if i was, if it had to be set up, i may not have been and that might be part of the reason. how do u ensure that im running apps2sd?
AdrianK said:
my suggestion is make a swap partition and set up usernint.sh so you can use both compcache and swap on Cyanogen 4.04. It should speed it up a lot. Link in my signature.
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ill try that now. should i stick with 4.0.4, or the experimental (which i heard is pretty stable, or am i wrong?)
also, i think i may order an 8gb class 6 like you have linked in your sig, hell for 17 bux, might as well.
and in your sig, what is that "xROM" you have listed after cyanogen? do i need that as well?

ufvj217 said:
with hero i was, as i understood, it does apps2sd automatically?
with cyanogen 4.0.4, im not sure if i was, if it had to be set up, i may not have been and that might be part of the reason. how do u ensure that im running apps2sd?
ill try that now. should i stick with 4.0.4, or the experimental (which i heard is pretty stable, or am i wrong?)
also, i think i may order an 8gb class 6 like you have linked in your sig, hell for 17 bux, might as well.
and in your sig, what is that "xROM" you have listed after cyanogen? do i need that as well?
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To check A2SD is running, check how much free space you have on your ext (Settinds > SD card > Secondary) install a couple of big apps - "Bonsai Blast" is 6MB - and check to see if free space has gone down. It A2SD is working it should have done.
4.04 or 4.1.11.1 doesn't really matter. I had a few acore FC's on 4.11.1.1 so 4.04 is your best bet. Could be my fault for not wiping though.
xROM is just...a ROM basically I believe it's based on CM 4.04 but it's themed up and looks awesome

so is the xROM different than 4.0.4? or am i confused.....lol

anyone have any idea on the issue im having with loading Hero? i just wiped and reloaded, and im still getting TouchFlo force close constantly.
anyone else having this issue?

Wipe your ext partition before wiping and flashing:
Go to Terminal:
Rm -rf /system/sd/*
Reboot recovery
Wipe
Reflash

oh, so when im in recovery, and i do alt+w, that wipes what? i thought it wiped everything? that might be the reason, ill try what you said.
although i even reformatted the card completely, then put hero on it and it still is doing it (randomly)
i had it working just now for bout 5-10 minutes then it started again.
also, when i went to wifi tethering, it says my kernel doesnt support it or something (didnt catch the whole error, ill try to copy it down if i see it again after wiping/reinstalling)
is there any reason to run hero over say....cyanogen 4.0.4 with a hero THEME? what are the advantages to running the actual Hero rom?

ESKIMOn00b said:
Wipe your ext partition before wiping and flashing:
Go to Terminal:
Rm -rf /system/sd/*
Reboot recovery
Wipe
Reflash
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i got rm failed for -rf, read-only file system

Yeah try wiping the whole sd card, not just the fat32 partition. Maybe your sd card is going bad? see if you can borrow another and give it another shot.
If he formats through the terminal app does he have to issue su before the other commands? Its been a while since I did mine sry.
I got Cm 4.04 and it works pretty fast on my 8gb class 4 card. I had some lag issues once I installed a few apps. I guess they didn't agree with the either the rom or the hero theme I have lol. Got rid of them and its back to normal. was the SayMyName and TTS Library....in my case tho. It might just be my phone running out of ram, not to sure tho.
And If Im not mistaken, Apps2sd is automatic on the rom.

i got that command to work, i forgot to SU.
i have an extra 1gb laying here, ill try that to see if it does anything different.
i just ordered an 8gb class 6 so that should be here soon anyways.
whats the difference in running hero, vs cyanogen 4.0.4 with a hero theme?

I'm not sure what the difference is but just to clarify my lag issue..
I have around 20ish apps installed. Everything still works pretty good. I just happen to install an app that must have intergrated itself in the system files or something and slowed and almost locked my phone up. Maybe it was the app maybe it wasnt. After I un installed it, things were back to normal.
From what I've been reading Hero is alower then the normal normal G1 builds. I'll have to try a hero build soon. Goodluck.

yea ive tried 2 different hero builds, i overall think cyanogen's 4.0.4 is what i like best, and ill just run the hero theme, i like the theme alot.
the only thing on that as far as lagging goes, is when i open the screen, it switches to landscape view fine most of the time, but when i close it, probably 7 times out of 10, it will lag when switching back to portrait view. the screen goes blurry when its switching (like when you go to power down the phone), for sometimes 2-3 seconds until it switches. i dont remember this happening when i had the stock software on the phone.
any ideas? im going to try the other SD card in a few minutes here just to test it.

ok so upon further review, it seems to only lag when the screen switches from landscape to portrait when the screen is closed. when you physically change the position of the phone, it takes 2, sometimes 3 seconds to switch the screen view. when opening/closing the screen, it switches very fast, as it did with the stock FW.
is this normal?
is there a way to disable that? i really only like it switching screen view based on if the screen is open, or closed.
if its normal, ill have to live with it

I think this is normal. On the normal stock/1.5 builds, the screen will not switch to landscape while the screen is closed on the home screen. It will only change to landscape when you slide out the screen. Is this the transition your talking about? I think its part of the build or theme, the os has to load up additional settings to force it to go to landscape while the screen is closed. For the most part it seems like the os is trying to figure out what position the gsensor/motion sensor thing is in, before it adjusts itself accordingly. I get the same thing on cm 4.04 and on the on the 4.1 I tried once...
soon I will be trying another 4.1 build, I'll let you know the results. nandroid backup is awsome lol

yea thats what im talkin about. i wish i could have it not switch views when the screen it closed, but oh well
im still stuck between hero and cyanogen. i tried xROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543621) didnt like the layout of that theme.

ufvj217 said:
yea thats what im talkin about. i wish i could have it not switch views when the screen it closed, but oh well
im still stuck between hero and cyanogen. i tried xROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543621) didnt like the layout of that theme.
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Note: if you want hero, you MUST have a swap partition. the g1 doesnt have enough ram for hero. you may get forceclosures because the g1 is running out of ram without anything even running. you need a swap of atleast 32mb. jac recommends 64mb and i along with a majority use 96mb swap

you know what, that might be it. i did have a swap partition, but there is a command or something you have to do to make the phone USE the swap parition right? if thats the case, that might very well be why it keeps FC'ing.
i ordered an 8gb class 6 sd card, should i do more than a 96mb swap? or is 96mb plenty?

Related

The dudes cupcake 1.3RC2

does this ROM do Apps2sd automatically as long as you have an ext3 partition?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507151
His changelog says this:
"Modified a2sd script to mount auto but not automatically convert to ext3"
Just out of curiosity, why are you going to that build?
didnt see that part.
it seems to run faster on my 8gb class 6 than cyanogen 4.0.4 did.
should it or should cyanogen be faster? i liked cyanogen but it just seemed to lag more...my friends G1 does the same thing.
also, everytime ive flashed cyanogen's 4.0.4 rom, and i install the wifi tether for root users app, it works, but it will not show up as a secured network, even though on my G1 in the app settings i have it set to be encrypted.
on cupcake 1.3RC2 it shows as a secured network as its supposed to.
He should be releasing a new update to 4.1.99 tonight which apparently will speed it up.
1.3rc2 is WAY outdated. dude's leaked release was about 3x as fast and stable. however, i'd probably consider going with one of cyanogen's roms right now, seeing as Dude has left the game for the time being, so any of his roms are going to be unsupported.
so i should flash cyanogens latest rom (is 4.0.4 still the latest stable) or should i go with 4.1.99 tonite after the update is released as the other guy said?
well, if you're running ok for now, i'd wait around for cyanogen's update tonight.
ill do that.
itll be updated in his thread tonite?
also...i have an 8gb class 6 sd card.
should i run swap? if so, 64mb, 96?
and ext3 vs ext4...i see a few are running 4 but most are running ext3. what are the pros/cons? (what would be the best SD card partition setup for 4.1.99?)
cyanogen has said that he *might* push the update out tonight, but ultimately, hes the only one who knows. as for the swap, running it is completely up to you. I have two g1s that are running 4.1.99 and the swap makes little differenct as far as i can tell. also, ext3 is fine, ext4 (because of its relative instability) is more likely to eat your card faster.
ive heard swap will eat the card faster as well.
i think ill just do fat32 and ext3.
can you explain to me what compcache is/does? i have the files and had it enabled on 4.0.4, but thats been wiped a few days ago so id have to reset it up if i want to use comcache with 4.1.99
ufvj217 said:
ive heard swap will eat the card faster as well.
i think ill just do fat32 and ext3.
can you explain to me what compcache is/does? i have the files and had it enabled on 4.0.4, but thats been wiped a few days ago so id have to reset it up if i want to use comcache with 4.1.99
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compcache compress data that is going to be stored in ram and is cpu heavy
the result is more ram is available for use at the cost of cpu power and as a result battery life.
thats the simple way of stating it
you think i should run it?
i see in your sig you have fat32, ext3, and swap, then it says you have 32mb for comcache, is that a separate partition, or does that use space from your 96mb swap?
ufvj217 said:
you think i should run it?
i see in your sig you have fat32, ext3, and swap, then it says you have 32mb for comcache, is that a separate partition, or does that use space from your 96mb swap?
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The compcache is stored on the RAM. The swap partition is on the SDcard and is used as a backing when the RAM fills up or the information cannot be compressed. The swap is generally for when I'm on a Hero ROM, where I use the swap only (since its a little bit faster for me on Hero)
I have a detailed explanation on the performance benefits on Compcache + Swap only, but I don't remember where it is.
Cyanogen uses Compcache by default, so if you don't have a userinit.sh, it will be on. Try it out, and then try it with the script. See what works better for you

Android running VERY slow?

I updated to the 4.1.99
and it is running veryyyyyy slow... even after I upgraded to extension 3.
What can I do to speed it up? (I have already closed all running applications)
or will upgrading to 4.1.999 make it faster?
Help.. really, I feel like I have an 80 year old phone
that is the reason 4.1.999 was released, to fix bugs in 4.1.99. yes, it will be faster, also if you don't have a linux-swap partition, i recommend getting one.
Linux-swap makes just about everything faster.
Uhhmmmm I have linux swap, on my SD and CM 1.4.999 (3 nines) ROM ran so slow that I almost chucked my pone at the wall before NANDroiding. So does anyone have reports of there CM Rom being majorly increased inspeed after upgrading to 1.4.9999 (4 nines)?
999 ran great, and 9999 runs really good. did you ever wipe your rom and run a fix_permissions to clear everything up
I had that problem with 4.1.99 and 4.1.999 till i wiped/factory reset a few times for OCD satisfaction and reformatted (not just wiped) my sdcard. If you aren't super computer savvy, amon_RA's newest recovery image will give you a one click option for formatting and partitioning sd card without knowing or inputing script.
Ya I wiped but I never ran fix_permissions, ill try it.
it took me awhile to get 99999 working i lost root, so i have to start from scratch.
nailhernick! said:
it took me awhile to get 99999 working i lost root, so i have to start from scratch.
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wow 5 nines, what are you doing giving cy a little side funny biz
No funny business thats what i thought it was called
Wipe, wipe, wipe.
Run Swapper with the recommended settings.
Get a class 6 SD.
?????
Profit.
oh, and format your ext2 using Ra's recovery image every flash.
I'm using RAv1.2.0G and can format the ext2 w/o deleting data from my
FAT partition. It's nice and fixes most probs going from ROM to ROM.

my phone is running too slow

well i was running cyanogen 4.2.6 with a theme and advanced launcher, stericson lockscreen..etc and my phone was blazing fast..then i decided i wanted to change the size of my partition and i forgot to back up and i lost everything..so i wiped repaired ext and flashed 4.2.7.1 and now my phone is slowww if i go to the browser and then home it takes about 8 seonds to apppear
so my question is what could i do to reverse this?
El Cipitio said:
well i was running cyanogen 4.2.6 with a theme and advanced launcher, stericson lockscreen..etc and my phone was blazing fast..then i decided i wanted to change the size of my partition and i forgot to back up and i lost everything..so i wiped repaired ext and flashed 4.2.7.1 and now my phone is slowww if i go to the browser and then home it takes about 8 seonds to apppear
so my question is what could i do to reverse this?
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You may have to wipe your phone.
blacknightavalon hit it right on the nose. You have to wipe, you already mentioned you didnt backup your phone anyways. The wipe and reinstall of the Rom and advanced launcher should fix your problem. Think of it like a reformat of an operating system of windows. linux or apple on your desktop/laptop.
legend221 said:
blacknightavalon hit it right on the nose. You have to wipe, you already mentioned you didnt backup your phone anyways. The wipe and reinstall of the Rom and advanced launcher should fix your problem. Think of it like a reformat of an operating system of windows. linux or apple on your desktop/laptop.
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I did wipe and reinstalled cyan 4.2.7.1 and I my phone is still slow...this is why I'm asking for help, maybe it is something I need to do...what a bout linux swap? Mine is 32 but I hears that's good for a donut rom :s
El Cipitio said:
I did wipe and reinstalled cyan 4.2.7.1 and I my phone is still slow...this is why I'm asking for help, maybe it is something I need to do...what a bout linux swap? Mine is 32 but I hears that's good for a donut rom :s
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Increase SWAP to 128. You will see a major difference there but it seems like you had something else configured that you don't recall. Ensure that you wipe the device, dalvik, and ext this time just to get it right.
If you are really wanting to see some speed use THIS ROM. It has everything good about Cyanogen's but is MUCH faster and for me more stable. (Hope that is helpful)
Perhaps its just my phone, but I think 4.2.6 was faster than 4.2.7.1. I'm still running the latest from Cyan, but I do believe it's not as fast. I have a slight delay from Browser to home, but not 8 seconds.... maybe 3?
10mb hack
This should help http://fhl09.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/speed-cyanogen-up-2/
6dipset6 said:
This should help http://fhl09.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/speed-cyanogen-up-2/
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Great reply... I'm about to try this as well to see how the speed differs from what I have now. My ROM is running well but if I can see improvements I'm willing to try it out.
I don't know if it makes a difference in Cyanogenmod, but a higher class sd card may help. It certainly did for me when I ran a hero ROM using a class 6 sd card, but then again, i don't know if cyanogenmod really needs a fast sd card
RodrigoKim said:
I don't know if it makes a difference in Cyanogenmod, but a higher class sd card may help. It certainly did for me when I ran a hero ROM using a class 6 sd card, but then again, i don't know if cyanogenmod really needs a fast sd card
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yup, that should be another factor
RodrigoKim said:
I don't know if it makes a difference in Cyanogenmod, but a higher class sd card may help. It certainly did for me when I ran a hero ROM using a class 6 sd card, but then again, i don't know if cyanogenmod really needs a fast sd card
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Interesting.... can anyone if Increase SWAP to 128 has made Cyanogen faster or not?

Optimizing android performance

Hello, I would like to know what steps that I can take to increase the performance of android on my vogue. I am using myn's warm donut rom, with the system installed on the nand and the data installed on my ext2 partition on my sd card. I have heard that Its a good ideal to enable swapping, but I do not know how to enable it. I already have my 8GB class 6 sd card partitioned with one fat partition, one 256MB ext2 partition, and one 1GB ext2 partition (for Data). If anyone has any suggestions or tips, please let me know. Thanks!
PS: is there a way to overclock my vogue while using android? I have tried using the clock.sh file from mssmison's legendary build, but that didn't work.
EDIT: Can i use an ext3 or ext4 instead of ext2 for the partitions on the sd card?
Soon there will be an app for overclocking. Myn is currently working on it.
Other that that, make sure you're always on the latest nbh and Myn release.
Get yourself a task manager and be mindful of what processes you actually need.
Use clearcache often.
go into dev tools/development settings and set the window and transition animation to OFF. i noticed that not only does everything open super quick but it did increase the overal performance
you can't use ext3 or 4 no. First thing is to make sure if you are running data on your sdcard that you are using a fast sd card (not a cheap one).
That's what is giving you the biggest performance hit right now.
There is an OC app coming but to be honest it really should be running quite snappy for you.
Thanks guys for all of the info. I have just one more question. should I enable swapping on my android? Advanced task manager usually reports that I have around 46-40MB of free ram.
If you have a lot of free memory already, there is no reason to use swap.
Ok, I have one last question (I apologize if I'm being a bit annoying). I tried installing and using Adfree on my vogue, but when I run it, it says "Cannot locate the 'cat' util on your system". Does anyone know how I can fix this? also, when my phone is connected to my charger, my phone's 3g speeds are really good, but when It's not on the charger, the 3g slows down. Normally I'm ok with it, but it may make playing some games online a bit more difficult when off the charger. Is there some way I can fix this? Thanks!
slow88lx said:
Soon there will be an app for overclocking. Myn is currently working on it.
Other that that, make sure you're always on the latest nbh and Myn release.
Get yourself a task manager and be mindful of what processes you actually need.
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Can you install a new .nbh without updating the release you are running, or do you need to wipe the phone every time?
conanford said:
Can you install a new .nbh without updating the release you are running, or do you need to wipe the phone every time?
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you can flash nbh without wiping system or data

something wrong with sd card? and other questions

um, my read/write speeds are TERRIBLE with an adata class 6 sd card, even with the sd card speed boost....
w is about 2.0 or lower(sometimes lucky to 5 but EXTREMELY rare)
read is about 15 or lower(mbs)
and does data2ext2 effect the speed of sdcard?
does data2ext4 have better read speeds?
thanks in advance(using 3/26 gingerbread rom from aosp with stock kernal, and data2ext2)
Ext2 is faster. Make a nand of your setup then I think you should just backup all of your data and format the sd threw your pc/laptop. Then partition yout SD in recovery to 1024 ext2 0swap and rest in fat/system. Also I'd recommend reflashing your recovery. After that
Try the ext2 data2ext. If you need help just pm me. But you should be good after that.
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Data2ext is going to slow down your normal sdcard read/write speeds, whether it's ext2 or ext4. My phone used to take forever to get past the "mounting sd card" phase of startup until I stopped using data2ext.
While ext4 is slower than ext2, that's for a good reason -- ext4 is journaled, so you see much less of a chance of data loss when using it.
@jasonM-Well must have been your phone or your sd/card. If you have a class 4,6 or 10 16gb sd/card I can't see a gig partition is going to effect it to much. Because mine flew pass the setup. The longest part of it is the typing of the commands and the reboot. It mounts asap and builds the super blocks asap. Its made my phone ridiculously fast.
@op and Jm
When I downloaded the msnbc app from the market " not recommended " it froze my phone so I had to do a battery pull which is a no do with the mod. All I did was reflash the recovery, restore a nand, flash the data2ext zip and all was back to normal. Even when I wipe cache and dev cache again I just reflash the data2ext zip and I'm good. All apps restore. I've never had any market,gps,or download issues at all. Even after I flashed the sd/card tweak it ran along with it fine. I run your kernel "jm" the darkhorse theme the miui camera & weather app, aosp's 3/26, sprint nav, I can over clock to 806 fine and on and on. My point is the data2ext hasn't effected my user experience in a negative way at all its only improved it. As far as data loss as long as you keep a backup of your sd/card you should be fine.
I say read the thread, post some questions to get some feedback and to gain an understanding of what it does, the negative and positive risks and benefits. Then try it out. If you need any help with it and I can, I will. Just pm me. Not you "jm" I know you don't need help lol. That's for the op.
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laie1472 said:
@jasonM-Well must have been your phone. Because when mine flew pass the setup. The longest part of it is the typing of the commands and the reboot. It mounts asap and builds the super blocks asap. Its made my phone ridiculously fast.
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I'm referring to the process of booting between the phone, between the time that the Launcher first appears and the time that "Preparing SD card..." disappears from the status bar.
jasonmaloney said:
I'm referring to the process of booting between the phone, between the time that the Launcher first appears and the time that "Preparing SD card..." disappears from the status bar.
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Yea me to man. Lol you know when the screen appears and shows the icon on the status bar.
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OMG, my write speeds are better now BUT, read speed is only 14 mbs....(WITH the tweak, my mistake, the reads used to be about 21mbs average)

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