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seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
will holland win the European championship.............
we do not know what will happen in the future.
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seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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Interesting, but I'm positive instead of upgrading the diamond, most people will just buy the new HTC (Probably a Touch) with WM7.
WM7 will be released at the beginning of 2009. Porbably announced earlier.
It is very likely that the Touch Diamond can run wm7 without problems. But nobody can tell you now...
Since HTC is planning for a WM7 device, they will not offer WM7 as a free upgrade for the TouchDiamond. If enough people buy the touch diamond they might offer this update for some money. Else we have to hope for some good "cooking" from the developers here in the forum...
very likely based on what?
If it's as much of an overhaul as Microsoft are saying it will be, then I'd say not supported. Will probably need a better touch screen.
Rory
withouth support for hardware features like
accelorometer and multitouch it would prob
be a kinda poor experience if it does
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Good question
That's why I said: Very likely...
You might as well ask: What might WM7 change that makes it very unlikely that the Touch Diamond will not be albe to run it...
I asked HTC about the Diamond2 WM7 upgrade and they answered this:
"At the moment windows mobile 7 is unknown at this time. I can not give you the exact date when it will release. But I know that there will be a new upgrade will be available soon."
So is this good or bad?
Windows Mobile 7 has high requirements... check out http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html. The Diamond's 192MB ROM isn't even close to the 512MB required. Although, when it comes out, I have a feeling that our hackers will debloat it and make it run.
But it won't be official, that's for sure.
~codeslicer
i have see on youtube many videos with diamond and Winmo7 but its very slow at this time but its work!
You will have winmo7 on your Diamond than wait its nut funny at this time
Here are 2 Videos. The first Video i think thats real its slow but the last Video is so fast i think thats a fake :S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cv85Z2O5jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7UZ71uQHs&feature=related
the second video is an APP runs on WM6.5 it's name is THE HOST and it is in 1.5 version now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928
As mentioned earlier the requirements are not close enough to W7p, and if you have run xdandroid, the performance is okay but not there yet.
I have seen W7p theme for android, I have tried it and it seems pretty cool
Examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8119626#post8119626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864034
That first video looks amazing. Although I didn't expect WP7 to run sooo slowly.
gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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I think we might be able to install a windows 7 rom on Diamond altough it might not function properly because WM7 needs a lot more RAM and processing speed compared to WM6.1 and 6.5.
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
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I will work like crap.
A HTC Diamond barely manages to run a W6.5...It does run , but very slow and annoying.
Would`nt recommend going W7 on a Diamond , unless you have nerves of steel ^^
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
I might also add that it has not been done. Probably won't either, because nobody wants to downgrade their handheld.
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Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Nope. Nobody bothered to port it over because it would be completely pointless. Whats in it for you to downgrade anyway?
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Hi guys,
today I talked to an HTC guy on the CeBIT convention in Hannover. I asked him about the release of Windows Mobile 6.5 for the Diamond 1 and he said that he is sure it will come as an update for the Diamond aswell. Diamond 2 will get the update, too. I tested the Diamond 2 today and I must say: AWESOME!!! That thing is so extremely fast in TouchFlo 3D. I had my Diamond 1 in one hand and the Diamond 2 in the other and now I could throw away my Diamond The new Menu for programs is nice, too. All together the Diamond 2 is much better than the Diamond and I think I will sell my Diamond 1 and buy the Diamond 2.
Greetz Frozen-GPU
did you tell him about the release date of diamond2 ?
is it on march or april ?
In fact he couldn't give me a final answer on this I guess he was not the right one to answer the question Only a salesman i think. But in my opinion it's worth waiting for Touch Diamond 2, no matter if it'll be released this or next month. There was another guy buggin' him with stupid questions about connecting HTC devices over bluetooth to his car hands free, so I left without asking more questions...
I mean no disrespect to you, but I really hope that you found the only (IMHO) honest and knowledgeable telephone company salesperson.
That in itself would be an awesome discovery, much more incredible than the 6.5 upgrade for the Diamond
That could be true...
Maybe I better wrote another title for this topic: "Diamond 2 - WOW! Windows Mobile 6.5 on Diamond 1: Very possible!"
Salesmen are really clever, but not in giving technical information
i hope this is true because there are rumors poping up that wm6.5 will only be avaiable for phones with a hardware windows start button
WIMO 6.5 on Diamond 1 not likely
The word from Microsoft is that ONLY the phones with Windows button will ever be supported as a Windows Mobile 6.5 platform. I'd say that minimizes the chance that HTC will take the time and money to develop a 6.5 rom for an old device that will probably be end of life soon.
yet tested our beloved device with a pre wm6.5 and it's too much sloooow and crappy too
I think wm6.5 needs more ram, perhaps could be sane on diamond2 but right now isn't ready to be used on diamond1
Start button?
i don't see why MS is saying it HAS to have a start button. the Diamond had 9 hardware buttons (if the whole pad is broken down into all its functions) i'm sure that one of those buttons could be allocated for that use
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i don't see why MS is saying it HAS to have a start button. the Diamond had 9 hardware buttons (if the whole pad is broken down into all its functions) i'm sure that one of those buttons could be allocated for that use
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I totally agree with that Put a Windows Logo sticker over the "Home" Hardwarebutton and voila ^^
I have to admit I'm a bit puzzled as to why this is a stumbling block. WinMo 6.5 will presumably be a whole new ROM and I imagine would have a few chefs cooking with it. We've seen that it will work on Diamond, it should be simple enough to map a single button to make it work.
Shouldn't it?
Winmo 6.5 on Diamond...
not sure if I am toe-stepping, or pointing out what everyone already know, but there's a winmo 6.5 beta for the diamond here ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481896
havent given it a go yet, as my Diamond isn't really expendable (work phone i'd be shot for messing up) but it seems though good progress has been made!
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not sure if I am toe-stepping, or pointing out what everyone already know, but there's a winmo 6.5 beta for the diamond here ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481896
havent given it a go yet, as my Diamond isn't really expendable (work phone i'd be shot for messing up) but it seems though good progress has been made!
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Yeah Windows Mobile 6.5 BETA has been released from several cookers, but I was talking about native support for WM6.5 on the HTC Touch Diamond. Even if HTC won't update the Diamond, the cookers here will release it for us, that's for sure But it would be nice if HTC gives an official update for the Diamond 1.
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Yeah Windows Mobile 6.5 BETA has been released from several cookers, but I was talking about native support for WM6.5 on the HTC Touch Diamond. Even if HTC won't update the Diamond, the cookers here will release it for us, that's for sure But it would be nice if HTC gives an official update for the Diamond 1.
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I think it is unlikely: no windows start key (which is not needed of course, but it is an advertising trick from microsoft, which imho is fearing the lack of image associated to WinMo compared to the new kids in town (android, OSX, WebOS), and is trying to get smartphone manufacturer to provide some free advertising - equivalent to "Windows Vista compatible" on the PC peripherals for example), so probably HTC will not get the OK from Microsoft on this one. Morerover, it is not sure HTC would do it even if they could (except maybe for the touch HD): Diamond2 and Pro2 will be out before WinMo6.5, so upgrading only the latest model is a way to force the previous ones (TD1/TP1) into obsolescence...especially as the specs are not so different, so any differentiation is good to get...
TouchHD successor seems further away, possibly after the release of the first 6.5 devices, or the 6.5 upgrade for TD2/TP2...so I guess official touch HD upgrade is maybe possible...
There's not going to be an update for "old Ht'c like de Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and Touch HD...
Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
jutley said:
Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
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have you tried to load the HD images that are out there? WOuld be a nice start
sorry i havent we need some developers to try for us so we have a base to start from come on what a brilliant handset the htc touch pro2 is i just can't imagine the possibilities with it running android.
Ok here is the HD vershion of Android port if somone can test and report back that would be great http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
I think if the image works, the keyboard has to work then directly aswell!
jutley said:
Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
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use the hero rom
yes the hero is a android phone but we cant just flash a android rom onto the touc pro2 but i am sure a developer out there can do something about that and use the hero rom to work for tp2.
maybe the diamond 2 vershion will work atleast its a start the roms are the same on both devices http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493
http://www.androidonhtc.com/
i think porting the android hero rom would be even more badasssss
waiting so patiently for my touch pro 2
ok so all those android developes the hero rom it shall be. Its final soon as the hero is released get ready with your aprons on and get cooking make us all proud be all heros.
i hate this forum
no i dont i love it..but everytime i get a new phone i come on here to find out something else and it makes want the other new phone..i just got the Htc magic google ion..andnow you guys are talking about Hero on that Sexy touch pro2..man i do miss a keyboard..but the g1 was too ugly..oh well :/ i hope the touch pro2 isnt that expensive
HTC Hero with the same RAM/ROM/CPU as TP2 just got announced today as an Android phone with HTC's own touch UI additions.
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/2...ra-teflon-coating-coming-out-late-summer.html
Once this hits the wild and ROM hackers get on it, I think there might be further advances on Android on TP2.
BTW, check out the video. Full featured Android is not (yet), but it does look cool.
vasra said:
HTC Hero with the same RAM/ROM/CPU as TP2 just got announced today as an Android phone with HTC's own touch UI additions.
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/2...ra-teflon-coating-coming-out-late-summer.html
Once this hits the wild and ROM hackers get on it, I think there might be further advances on Android on TP2.
BTW, check out the video. Full featured Android is not (yet), but it does look cool.
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The hero doesn't have the same screen, and that is (it think) a major problem.
think the screen is not the problem. android is concepted to work withe different screen sices
lhwparis said:
think the screen is not the problem. android is concepted to work withe different screen sices
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I've seend video's of the touch HD on youtube where it appears that the menu had problems displaying contents while opening. (in opened and closed states it looked normal) Also third party apps will mostly be designed for standard screen size I guess even though Android itself might be capable.
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
vasra said:
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
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They'd better release an Android driven Touch Pro2!
vasra said:
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
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Manila 3..
Geniuses, pls port the Hero's Androids for our Rhodium. Dualboot is awesome. But I can see Hero hv multi-touch support. not a big deal, either it can boot with Rhodium or I have to fasting for another few months (to save money actually )to get this green robot driven gagdet.
Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
Get an older phone if you want to use 6.5.
trade me, i've got a brand new, never used hd2 . j/j, i hate at$t.
HD7 with WinMo 6.5 is HD2
ha ha ha ha ha
sorry
this is really funny
get a new/reconditioned HD2 on email for around £250 in UK
Fundamentally incompatible
bartkozik said:
Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
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The hardware of the hd7 and the hd2 are almost identical, but the hd2 is actually better. It has a removable sd slot also.
The HD2 had to be redesigned because the Windows phone 7 OS is actually a silverlight runtime environment and needed different hardware and that means different drivers. There is currently no way to use the hardware on the hd7 with wm6.5.
I assume you ask this because you want the flexibility of third party apps...
I just went and downloaded Microsoft Expressions Blend 4 and started to write my own apps for my phone
Just get yourself an HD2...same performance
Lancelot
HTC Addict
HD2/HD7
Thanks
Super thanks to all of you!
I hoped to get an answer that I can install WM6.5 until there are some apps available for WM7 from my company. And then reinstall WM7. I guess it is not that easy... I will get the HD2 then...
Thank you for all the answers
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
tai4de2 said:
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
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It looks that everybody understood except you...
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
A little lucidity to sooth the insanity...
nurps said:
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
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What exactly are you asking? HTC 7 Pro?
The HTC HD7 is a windows mobile phone (Windows Mobile 7) it's really the HD3, but htc jumped to 7 to keep the number synonymous with WM7.... to avoid confusion, although people are still confused. Here's an easy way to look at it;
htc HD2 ---> WM6.5 OS
htc HD7 ---> WM7 (sometimes referred to as Windows Phone 7) OS
Seems you are confused a little..there is no Windows Mobile 7, there is Windows Phone and Windows Mobile..and that ended with 6.5.
But there is no other modern hardware with full keyboard..so the 7 Pro needs Windows Mobile.
When someone buys a Win 7 phone and wants to install 6.5 to get productivity then I really think MS have a major problem or the guy who started this thread is having a lend of us.
I would love to have 6.5.x on my HD7 dual boot
there are a lot of apps available for 6.5.x including multiple browsers copy and paste that i could use while we wait for wp7 to grow in functionality. At this point it would be ideal to be able to dual boot with 6.5.x and wp7, I could do things I need to do on 6.5 and then go back wp7 for the most part.
Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
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Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
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The HD7 feels faster because it runs WP7. Its processor runs at the same speed as the HD2's. The HD2 feels slower because WM6.5 is a big bag of smelly animal poo.
First of all there is no such thing as WM7, it was aborted in favour of WP7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile).
I suggest posting in the WP7 Rom development section your requests rather than here. Considering XDA-Devs is working on craking WP7 itself and when that happens possibly Android, I think the dead OS Windows Mobile will be low down on their list.
I also think dual booting is not all what it's made out to be! I dual-boot my HD2 to Android, and no longer use WM6.5. Why you ask? Well WM 6.5 is dead, most of the services (if not all) for WM6 are available on Android.
If you really must have Windows Mobile, best option is to get a HD2, it has very good support for WM, much better than any fudgeware that could be put on the HD7.
I have my HD7, my old HD2 still uses copilot and now a few apps only found in the Android market. I purchased a simple Pay as you go SIM to keep that phone alive.
I hope its possible soon..the HTC 7 Pro is on the market soon..and there is no alternative to it...
Give me strength!!!!!
What planet are you guys on? MS has switched development to WP7 and are not likley to support WM6 (maybe something in the numbering may give the game away here [sarcasm])
No matter how good the guys at XDA are, they are not going to crack WP7 overnight, it took them over 2 months to crack HD2 last year and that was on technology that didn't differ too much from WM6.1. WP7 is from the ground up.
As for the HD 7 Pro, it will come with WP7, nor Fairy phone 6 or anything else. And guess what? It's not even released yet so no point in asking people to crack it before it's been released.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/7pro/specification.html
Can one of the Mods close this useless thread or move it over to the HD7 Dev thread so all the Devs can laugh at it?
win mobile 6.5 on htc hd7
In reality, this requirement is due to the fact that many programs such as ACR (audio call recorder) and many other contacts backup is not running on win mobile 7. That's why I consider it important to install win 6.5 on hd7, at least temporarily.
thanks
I just heard about this great new: WP7 can be cracked to run on old HTC (OS WM6). Is this possible to have this capability on our X1? Someone has any new?
where did you read that ? WP7's min system requirements are above the X1 specs
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where did you read that ? WP7's min system requirements are above the X1 specs
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Very true not only the X1 but pretty much all of the WM devices, I've heard the HD2 running it but that is probably the only WM that can do it. @ usylsse84 but most importantly why waste your X1 with a locked down OS that's missing alot basic smartphone features you are defiantly not gaining anything by putting WP7 in your X1? And that 12 year old made looking square interface is retarded, I would be sick of looking at that interface after a week of using it and not having the option to change it lol GTFO. If you want WP7 then buy a WP7 phone it's that simple.
On second thoughts..I dont think it would run as smooth as the 1GHZ processor...